Hello to all Mac users. First time owner here. I have a Power Mac G4 Cube that
was a hand
me down, still trying to get use to it. One of the problems I'm having is that
it still has the
previous owner password and I have no way of retrieving it. Does anyone know of
any way
that I can reconfigure this thing and get rid of that password. Thanks to all.

--- In 1AppleFreeTech@yahoogroups.com, "lenoregajewski" <lenoregajewski@...>
wrote:
>
> Hello to all Mac users. First time owner here. I have a Power Mac G4 Cube that
was a hand
> me down, still trying to get use to it. One of the problems I'm having is that
it still has the
> previous owner password and I have no way of retrieving it. Does anyone know
of any way
> that I can reconfigure this thing and get rid of that password. Thanks to all.
>


If you have the original Restore CD/DVD or an Install CD for the OS you can
reset the
password from the CD/DVD.

Restart the machine with the CD inserted in the DVD drive. Hold either the C or
Option key.
C will restart from the CD and Option will let you choose the CD. Once restarted
you will find
a reset password option from under the Apple menu icon. Select it and follow the
instructions.

John

I have a Mac mini running 10.4.11.  Sometimes I create documents that have
identical
names, with a changed date code in the file name.  I usually use NeoOffice to
create Word-
compatible docs, and I also use TextEdit.  I both cases, whenever I Save or Save
As, the
names of existing documents are always grayed, and I cannot click on an existing
file name
to name the new doc.  This has been the case since the day I bought my mini.  Is
there
something deep in System Preferences or Terminal or elsewhere that I can change
to correct
this?

hi
ihave problem with writing in arabic
any body know the solution

hi
ihave problem with writing in arabic
any body know the solution

On Nov 15, 2008, at 11:12a, e2201008 wrote:

> hi
> ihave problem with writing in arabic
> any body know the solution
>
>
>
>

Try going from right to left ;-)

Seriously, what's the problem you're having? You will need:

1) a font which contains the arabic alphabet (any Unicode font will
probably suffice)
2) a word processing app that supports right-to-left
3) switching to the keyboard layout for arabic

How far have you gotten?

Dave

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Hi,

You can see a list of my groups on Grouply at the link below. Maybe you'll find
some you want to join.

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>
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"Apple: Mac Users Should Get Antivirus Software

"In a notable shift, Apple is now recommending
that Mac users install anti-virus software to help
users secure their systems."

More at

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2008/12/apple_mac_users_should_get_\
ant.html?nav=rss_blog

Elaine

Old News

Apple deletes Mac antivirus suggestion

see
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10111958-37.html


On Dec 2, 2008, at Dec 2, , ETM wrote:

"Apple: Mac Users Should Get Antivirus Software

"In a notable shift, Apple is now recommending
that Mac users install anti-virus software to help
users secure their systems."

More at

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2008/12/apple_mac_users_should_get_\
ant.html?nav=rss_blog

Elaine


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My final goal is to have classic and osx on the same computer. I have tried
putting os x in
and pushing "install 9 drivers,"That didn't work so I am trying it from the
other end. I have a
clean install for 9.0 now. If I put the 9.1 cd in ,I get an error that you can
only upgrade to 9.1
from 9.0. The "select" button never becomes available.I only get a "go back"
button. I am
pushing down the c button when I put in the 9.1 cd and reboot
       My bios on 9 before was 154. I assume it is that now but can't see that as
an issue this
time.
      I am new to Apple. Any suggestions or articles to read?

You need to startup the computer ("boot") from the CD.

Restart and hold down the C key.  Keep holding C until you see the happy
mac.

If the computer won't boot from the CD, then it's either not a mac that can
boot into OS9, or your OS9 CD is too old for that particular mac.

Alternatively, you could make your life easier and download this OS 9.2.2
system folder that I use for easy installation of the Classic environment.

http://tinyurl.com/55om3s

-Chris


On 12/5/08 3:55 PM, "litack35" <litack35@...> wrote:

>      My final goal is to have classic and osx on the same computer. I have
> tried putting os x in
> and pushing "install 9 drivers,"That didn't work so I am trying it from the
> other end. I have a
> clean install for 9.0 now. If I put the 9.1 cd in ,I get an error that you can
> only upgrade to 9.1
> from 9.0. The "select" button never becomes available.I only get a "go back"
> button. I am
> pushing down the c button when I put in the 9.1 cd and reboot
>       My bios on 9 before was 154. I assume it is that now but can't see that
> as an issue this
> time.
>      I am new to Apple. Any suggestions or articles to read?

Hello folks,

I'm thinking of getting a new Mac, which will make my iMac G3
available for sale.

- running Tiger
- CD drive is a little sticky
- has FireWire; supports FireWire Target Disk Mode
- I've been using it as my Retrospect Backup server
- I can probably throw in an (original) Tiger Installation DVD
- make an offer?

Does anyone here have any interest in it before I put it on CraigsList?

Dave

It would be helpful if you listed your geographic location.


On 12/5/08 5:29 PM, "Dave Kitabjian" <dave@...> wrote:

> Hello folks,
>
> I'm thinking of getting a new Mac, which will make my iMac G3
> available for sale.
>
> - running Tiger
> - CD drive is a little sticky
> - has FireWire; supports FireWire Target Disk Mode
> - I've been using it as my Retrospect Backup server
> - I can probably throw in an (original) Tiger Installation DVD
> - make an offer?
>
> Does anyone here have any interest in it before I put it on CraigsList?
>
> Dave
>

Oh dear, sorry about that. I was confusing this list with another,
local, group. I'm in the Philadelphia suburbs.

Dave

On Dec 5, 2008, at 6:16p, macpro@... wrote:

>
> It would be helpful if you listed your geographic location.
>
> On 12/5/08 5:29 PM, "Dave Kitabjian" <dave@...> wrote:
>
> > Hello folks,
> >
> > I'm thinking of getting a new Mac, which will make my iMac G3
> > available for sale.
> >
> > - running Tiger
> > - CD drive is a little sticky
> > - has FireWire; supports FireWire Target Disk Mode
> > - I've been using it as my Retrospect Backup server
> > - I can probably throw in an (original) Tiger Installation DVD
> > - make an offer?
> >
> > Does anyone here have any interest in it before I put it on
> CraigsList?
> >
> > Dave
> >
>
>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Try booting the computer normally and then run the update from the CD. Some
Apple updates require you to install them that way. I downloaded 9.1 Update from
the Apple website and it updated from the hard drive.

Your going at this the right way now. I find it better to install OS 9 first
before OS X. But you will have to install 9.2 and update to 9.2.2 to have
classic. Then install and  update OS X. When you start classic for the first
time it will install the classic component for you in the OS 9 folder.

For full software compatibility and best running speed I suggest restarting in
OS 9 when you need to use it, and not use Classic. Older machines like yours
slow down significantly when running the Classic environment under OS X.


Erik



----- Original Message ----
From: litack35 <litack35@...>
To: 1AppleFreeTech@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 5, 2008 3:55:44 PM
Subject: [1AppleFreeTech] trying to upgrade from 9.0 to 9.1

      My final goal is to have classic and osx on the same computer. I have tried
putting os x in
and pushing "install 9 drivers,"That didn't work so I am trying it from the
other end. I have a
clean install for 9.0 now. If I put the 9.1 cd in ,I get an error that you can
only upgrade to 9.1
from 9.0. The "select" button never becomes available.I only get a "go back"
button. I am
pushing down the c button when I put in the 9.1 cd and reboot
       My bios on 9 before was 154. I assume it is that now but can't see that as
an issue this
time.
      I am new to Apple. Any suggestions or articles to read?


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PC Tools (one of the Kim Komodo advertisers) is
offering free protection for Mac users. iAntiVirus
offers real-time protection against attacks. It
will also scan for and quarantine infections. And
like all good security software, it receives
regular updates.

Cost: Free

Link: www.iantivirus.com System: Mac OS X

Elaine

I put 9.2 in and rebooted pushing c. I checked clean install but got a
computer that has both 9.1.2 and 10.3.9 on it.Both versions are instaled on my
hard drive. and I can access the programs. what should I list as  classic
preferences though. each time I click on that it shows something different.now
it shows something called "folder'. Also how do I update to 9.2.2? Where is my
option to open in 9.2.1 so I can update to 9,2,2? Sorry to ask so many questins.
Should I start a new post?


--- On Sat, 12/6/08, Erik Soren <sorenkarl@...> wrote:

> From: Erik Soren <sorenkarl@...>
> Subject: Re: [1AppleFreeTech] trying to upgrade from 9.0 to 9.1
> To: 1AppleFreeTech@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 1:52 AM
> Try booting the computer normally and then run the update
> from the CD. Some Apple updates require you to install them
> that way. I downloaded 9.1 Update from the Apple website and
> it updated from the hard drive.
>
> Your going at this the right way now. I find it better to
> install OS 9 first before OS X. But you will have to install
> 9.2 and update to 9.2.2 to have classic. Then install and
> update OS X. When you start classic for the first time it
> will install the classic component for you in the OS 9
> folder.
>
> For full software compatibility and best running speed I
> suggest restarting in OS 9 when you need to use it, and not
> use Classic. Older machines like yours slow down
> significantly when running the Classic environment under OS
> X.
>
>
> Erik
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: litack35 <litack35@...>
> To: 1AppleFreeTech@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, December 5, 2008 3:55:44 PM
> Subject: [1AppleFreeTech] trying to upgrade from 9.0 to 9.1
>
>      My final goal is to have classic and osx on the same
> computer. I have tried putting os x in
> and pushing "install 9 drivers,"That didn't
> work so I am trying it from the other end. I have a
> clean install for 9.0 now. If I put the 9.1 cd in ,I get an
> error that you can only upgrade to 9.1
> from 9.0. The "select" button never becomes
> available.I only get a "go back" button. I am
> pushing down the c button when I put in the 9.1 cd and
> reboot
>       My bios on 9 before was 154. I assume it is that now
> but can't see that as an issue this
> time.
>      I am new to Apple. Any suggestions or articles to
> read?
>
>
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I don't think you can update 9.1 to 9.2. You will have to install 9.2
on it's own then update that to 9.2.2 over the internet. But be aware
that each time you do a clean install it leaves behind the old system
folder renamed "Folder". This could explain the confusion. Suggest you
trash all OS 9 folders installed to date and start over. First open
the startup control panel and select the OS X folder called System
(10.3.9). Move all OS 9 folders to the trash and restart normally.
Empty the trash, then insert the 9.2 CD and restart with the 'C' key
held down. Do a regular install (not clean install) of 9.2. You should
click Options and de-select "Update hard disk driver" (no check mark).
After install completes, startup from the new 9.2 system folder and
configure internet access. Then you can use the Software Update
control panel to get 9.2.2 onto your hard drive. Restart in 10.3.9 and
go to the classic control panel. Select 9.2.2 to use for classic and
click "Start". OS X will then install the classic component for you.

Let us know how this works out for you. Any other OS 9 issues I'll be
happy to help out.

Erik



--- In 1AppleFreeTech@yahoogroups.com, Lana Litwin <litack35@...> wrote:
>
>      I put 9.2 in and rebooted pushing c. I checked clean install
but got a computer that has both 9.1.2 and 10.3.9 on it.Both versions
are instaled on my hard drive. and I can access the programs. what
should I list as  classic preferences though. each time I click on
that it shows something different.now it shows something called
"folder'. Also how do I update to 9.2.2? Where is my option to open in
9.2.1 so I can update to 9,2,2? Sorry to ask so many questins. Should
I start a new post?
>
>
> --- On Sat, 12/6/08, Erik Soren <sorenkarl@...> wrote:
>
> > From: Erik Soren <sorenkarl@...>
> > Subject: Re: [1AppleFreeTech] trying to upgrade from 9.0 to 9.1
> > To: 1AppleFreeTech@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 1:52 AM
> > Try booting the computer normally and then run the update
> > from the CD. Some Apple updates require you to install them
> > that way. I downloaded 9.1 Update from the Apple website and
> > it updated from the hard drive.
> >
> > Your going at this the right way now. I find it better to
> > install OS 9 first before OS X. But you will have to install
> > 9.2 and update to 9.2.2 to have classic. Then install and
> > update OS X. When you start classic for the first time it
> > will install the classic component for you in the OS 9
> > folder.
> >
> > For full software compatibility and best running speed I
> > suggest restarting in OS 9 when you need to use it, and not
> > use Classic. Older machines like yours slow down
> > significantly when running the Classic environment under OS
> > X.
> >
> >
> > Erik
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: litack35 <litack35@...>
> > To: 1AppleFreeTech@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, December 5, 2008 3:55:44 PM
> > Subject: [1AppleFreeTech] trying to upgrade from 9.0 to 9.1
> >
> >      My final goal is to have classic and osx on the same
> > computer. I have tried putting os x in
> > and pushing "install 9 drivers,"That didn't
> > work so I am trying it from the other end. I have a
> > clean install for 9.0 now. If I put the 9.1 cd in ,I get an
> > error that you can only upgrade to 9.1
> > from 9.0. The "select" button never becomes
> > available.I only get a "go back" button. I am
> > pushing down the c button when I put in the 9.1 cd and
> > reboot
> >       My bios on 9 before was 154. I assume it is that now
> > but can't see that as an issue this
> > time.
> >      I am new to Apple. Any suggestions or articles to
> > read?
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
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>

Hi Lana!

I didn't follow all your messages but if you are trying to use Classic
after reinstalling System 9.0, you may have overlooked the correct way
to reinstall the system software, in accordance with Apple's
directions, and, comsequently, may be running into so,e problems.
Please see this article entitled "Mac OS X: Reinstalling Mac OS 9 or
recovering from a software restore" on Apple's web site at
<http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1585?viewlocale=en_US
  >

Also, you will find a plethora of info about installing, updating, and
troubleshooting System 9 on Apple's web site at
<http://www.apple.com/support/macos9/
  >

Shirley Hershey
MacPower President
www.macpower.us

On Dec 6, 2008, at 2:47 PM, Lana Litwin wrote:

>  put 9.2 in and rebooted pushing c. I checked clean install but got
> a computer that has both 9.1.2 and 10.3.9 on it.Both versions are
> instaled on my hard drive. and I can access the programs. what
> should I list as classic preferences though. each time I click on
> that it shows something different.now it shows something called
> "folder'. Also how do I update to 9.2.2? Where is my option to open
> in 9.2.1 so I can update to 9,2,2? Sorry to ask so many questins.
> Should I start a new post?



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Sorry,the question mark was a typo. I have copies the articles to read.


--- On Sun, 12/7/08, Shirley Hershey <ugwhizz@...> wrote:

> From: Shirley Hershey <ugwhizz@...>
> Subject: Re: [1AppleFreeTech] trying to upgrade from 9.0 to 9.1-how to use
installed classic
> To: 1AppleFreeTech@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, December 7, 2008, 12:28 AM
> Hi Lana!
>
> I didn't follow all your messages but if you are trying
> to use Classic
> after reinstalling System 9.0, you may have overlooked the
> correct way
> to reinstall the system software, in accordance with
> Apple's
> directions, and, comsequently, may be running into so,e
> problems.
> Please see this article entitled "Mac OS X:
> Reinstalling Mac OS 9 or
> recovering from a software restore" on Apple's web
> site at
> <http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1585?viewlocale=en_US
>  >
>
> Also, you will find a plethora of info about installing,
> updating, and
> troubleshooting System 9 on Apple's web site at
> <http://www.apple.com/support/macos9/
>  >
>
> Shirley Hershey
> MacPower President
> www.macpower.us
>
> On Dec 6, 2008, at 2:47 PM, Lana Litwin wrote:
>
> >  put 9.2 in and rebooted pushing c. I checked clean
> install but got
> > a computer that has both 9.1.2 and 10.3.9 on it.Both
> versions are
> > instaled on my hard drive. and I can access the
> programs. what
> > should I list as classic preferences though. each time
> I click on
> > that it shows something different.now it shows
> something called
> > "folder'. Also how do I update to 9.2.2?
> Where is my option to open
> > in 9.2.1 so I can update to 9,2,2? Sorry to ask so
> many questins.
> > Should I start a new post?
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Thanks for the articles?


--- On Sun, 12/7/08, Shirley Hershey <ugwhizz@...> wrote:

> From: Shirley Hershey <ugwhizz@...>
> Subject: Re: [1AppleFreeTech] trying to upgrade from 9.0 to 9.1-how to use
installed classic
> To: 1AppleFreeTech@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, December 7, 2008, 12:28 AM
> Hi Lana!
>
> I didn't follow all your messages but if you are trying
> to use Classic
> after reinstalling System 9.0, you may have overlooked the
> correct way
> to reinstall the system software, in accordance with
> Apple's
> directions, and, comsequently, may be running into so,e
> problems.
> Please see this article entitled "Mac OS X:
> Reinstalling Mac OS 9 or
> recovering from a software restore" on Apple's web
> site at
> <http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1585?viewlocale=en_US
>  >
>
> Also, you will find a plethora of info about installing,
> updating, and
> troubleshooting System 9 on Apple's web site at
> <http://www.apple.com/support/macos9/
>  >
>
> Shirley Hershey
> MacPower President
> www.macpower.us
>
> On Dec 6, 2008, at 2:47 PM, Lana Litwin wrote:
>
> >  put 9.2 in and rebooted pushing c. I checked clean
> install but got
> > a computer that has both 9.1.2 and 10.3.9 on it.Both
> versions are
> > instaled on my hard drive. and I can access the
> programs. what
> > should I list as classic preferences though. each time
> I click on
> > that it shows something different.now it shows
> something called
> > "folder'. Also how do I update to 9.2.2?
> Where is my option to open
> > in 9.2.1 so I can update to 9,2,2? Sorry to ask so
> many questins.
> > Should I start a new post?
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

MacUpdate is currently offering a bundle of 11 applications for $50.

It's a nice list of titles for a small price.

http://www.mupromo.com/

 
 




________________________________
From: Lana Litwin <litack35@...>
To: 1AppleFreeTech@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 7, 2008 8:31:42 AM
Subject: Re: [1AppleFreeTech] trying to upgrade from 9.0 to 9.1-how to use
installed classic


Sorry,the question mark was a typo. I have copies the articles to read.

--- On Sun, 12/7/08, Shirley Hershey <ugwhizz@aol. com> wrote:

> From: Shirley Hershey <ugwhizz@aol. com>
> Subject: Re: [1AppleFreeTech] trying to upgrade from 9.0 to 9.1-how to use
installed classic
> To: 1AppleFreeTech@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Sunday, December 7, 2008, 12:28 AM
> Hi Lana!
>
> I didn't follow all your messages but if you are trying
> to use Classic
> after reinstalling System 9.0, you may have overlooked the
> correct way
> to reinstall the system software, in accordance with
> Apple's
> directions, and, comsequently, may be running into so,e
> problems.
> Please see this article entitled "Mac OS X:
> Reinstalling Mac OS 9 or
> recovering from a software restore" on Apple's web
> site at
> <http://support. apple.com/ kb/HT1585? viewlocale= en_US
> >
>
> Also, you will find a plethora of info about installing,
> updating, and
> troubleshooting System 9 on Apple's web site at
> <http://www.apple. com/support/ macos9/
> >
>
> Shirley Hershey
> MacPower President
> www.macpower. us
>
> On Dec 6, 2008, at 2:47 PM, Lana Litwin wrote:
>
> > put 9.2 in and rebooted pushing c. I checked clean
> install but got
> > a computer that has both 9.1.2 and 10.3.9 on it.Both
> versions are
> > instaled on my hard drive. and I can access the
> programs. what
> > should I list as classic preferences though. each time
> I click on
> > that it shows something different.now it shows
> something called
> > "folder'. Also how do I update to 9.2.2?
> Where is my option to open
> > in 9.2.1 so I can update to 9,2,2? Sorry to ask so
> many questins.
> > Should I start a new post?
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I have a friend who is running 9.2 and needs a printer for his laptop.
The printer he had fell apart.
Can anyone tell me where there is a list of printers that will run on
9.2.
I had no answer for him except to email his wife's PC to print.
He has already called epson and hp and they said they have none.
He needs it for
http://www.oildrumart.org/

thanks







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If the laptop has a USB port then all you need is a printer with a driver for OS
9. Version tracker should be able to help with that. If the laptop has the older
style serial printer/modem port then your out of luck for a new printer. No one
make them for the old style, mac only port any more.



----- Original Message ----
From: Macbth <macbth@...>
To: 1AppleFreeTech@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 7, 2008 12:47:56 PM
Subject: Re: [1AppleFreeTech] 9.1 printers

I have a friend who is running 9.2 and needs a printer for his laptop.
The printer he had fell apart.
Can anyone tell me where there is a list of printers that will run on
9.2.
I had no answer for him except to email his wife's PC to print.
He has already called epson and hp and they said they have none.
He needs it for
http://www.oildrumart.org/

thanks







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This is getting to be quite an adventure. I removed all 9.1 versions.
However  after trying to follow your instructions (or trying to) I had to update
the drivers  and do a clean install to get 9.1  on at all. Then I had 9.1 and
connected to the internet. I upgraded to 9.2. Then I tried to install os x twice
without success. It froze  in the optimizing hd phase . I decided to go back to
9.2 and ask for more instructions. I appreciate your patience. What do I go from
here?


--- On Sat, 12/6/08, sorenkarl <sorenkarl@...> wrote:

> From: sorenkarl <sorenkarl@...>
> Subject: [1AppleFreeTech] Re: trying to upgrade from 9.0 to 9.1-how to use
installed classic
> To: 1AppleFreeTech@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 10:30 PM
> I don't think you can update 9.1 to 9.2. You will have
> to install 9.2
> on it's own then update that to 9.2.2 over the
> internet. But be aware
> that each time you do a clean install it leaves behind the
> old system
> folder renamed "Folder". This could explain the
> confusion. Suggest you
> trash all OS 9 folders installed to date and start over.
> First open
> the startup control panel and select the OS X folder called
> System
> (10.3.9). Move all OS 9 folders to the trash and restart
> normally.
> Empty the trash, then insert the 9.2 CD and restart with
> the 'C' key
> held down. Do a regular install (not clean install) of 9.2.
> You should
> click Options and de-select "Update hard disk
> driver" (no check mark).
> After install completes, startup from the new 9.2 system
> folder and
> configure internet access. Then you can use the Software
> Update
> control panel to get 9.2.2 onto your hard drive. Restart in
> 10.3.9 and
> go to the classic control panel. Select 9.2.2 to use for
> classic and
> click "Start". OS X will then install the classic
> component for you.
>
> Let us know how this works out for you. Any other OS 9
> issues I'll be
> happy to help out.
>
> Erik
>
>
>
> --- In 1AppleFreeTech@yahoogroups.com, Lana Litwin
> <litack35@...> wrote:
> >
> >      I put 9.2 in and rebooted pushing c. I checked
> clean install
> but got a computer that has both 9.1.2 and 10.3.9 on
> it.Both versions
> are instaled on my hard drive. and I can access the
> programs. what
> should I list as  classic preferences though. each time I
> click on
> that it shows something different.now it shows something
> called
> "folder'. Also how do I update to 9.2.2? Where is
> my option to open in
> 9.2.1 so I can update to 9,2,2? Sorry to ask so many
> questins. Should
> I start a new post?
> >
> >
> > --- On Sat, 12/6/08, Erik Soren <sorenkarl@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Erik Soren <sorenkarl@...>
> > > Subject: Re: [1AppleFreeTech] trying to upgrade
> from 9.0 to 9.1
> > > To: 1AppleFreeTech@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 1:52 AM
> > > Try booting the computer normally and then run
> the update
> > > from the CD. Some Apple updates require you to
> install them
> > > that way. I downloaded 9.1 Update from the Apple
> website and
> > > it updated from the hard drive.
> > >
> > > Your going at this the right way now. I find it
> better to
> > > install OS 9 first before OS X. But you will have
> to install
> > > 9.2 and update to 9.2.2 to have classic. Then
> install and
> > > update OS X. When you start classic for the first
> time it
> > > will install the classic component for you in the
> OS 9
> > > folder.
> > >
> > > For full software compatibility and best running
> speed I
> > > suggest restarting in OS 9 when you need to use
> it, and not
> > > use Classic. Older machines like yours slow down
> > > significantly when running the Classic
> environment under OS
> > > X.
> > >
> > >
> > > Erik
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: litack35 <litack35@...>
> > > To: 1AppleFreeTech@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Friday, December 5, 2008 3:55:44 PM
> > > Subject: [1AppleFreeTech] trying to upgrade from
> 9.0 to 9.1
> > >
> > >      My final goal is to have classic and osx on
> the same
> > > computer. I have tried putting os x in
> > > and pushing "install 9 drivers,"That
> didn't
> > > work so I am trying it from the other end. I have
> a
> > > clean install for 9.0 now. If I put the 9.1 cd in
> ,I get an
> > > error that you can only upgrade to 9.1
> > > from 9.0. The "select" button never
> becomes
> > > available.I only get a "go back"
> button. I am
> > > pushing down the c button when I put in the 9.1
> cd and
> > > reboot
> > >       My bios on 9 before was 154. I assume it is
> that now
> > > but can't see that as an issue this
> > > time.
> > >      I am new to Apple. Any suggestions or
> articles to
> > > read?
> > >
> > >
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I finally did it but in a rather round about way. I installed 9.2 and then
updated it. Then I had a problem getting 10.03 to go on. It stopped at
optimizing the hard drive.  I then put in 10.3 which archived the previous os x
program without requiring a clean install. Once 10.3 was on I deleted the os x
10.03,leaving classic and 10.3 on the computer.I didn't even have to create a
new file for classic. if I click on 9 applications,classic opens up without a
problem. I even installed a program,Star power,that only works on 9.
      I am sure I broke some rules doing this  but it worked.I thank you for your
guidance. This has been a learning experience.



--- On Sat, 12/6/08, sorenkarl <sorenkarl@...> wrote:

> From: sorenkarl <sorenkarl@...>
> Subject: [1AppleFreeTech] Re: trying to upgrade from 9.0 to 9.1-how to use
installed classic
> To: 1AppleFreeTech@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 10:30 PM
> I don't think you can update 9.1 to 9.2. You will have
> to install 9.2
> on it's own then update that to 9.2.2 over the
> internet. But be aware
> that each time you do a clean install it leaves behind the
> old system
> folder renamed "Folder". This could explain the
> confusion. Suggest you
> trash all OS 9 folders installed to date and start over.
> First open
> the startup control panel and select the OS X folder called
> System
> (10.3.9). Move all OS 9 folders to the trash and restart
> normally.
> Empty the trash, then insert the 9.2 CD and restart with
> the 'C' key
> held down. Do a regular install (not clean install) of 9.2.
> You should
> click Options and de-select "Update hard disk
> driver" (no check mark).
> After install completes, startup from the new 9.2 system
> folder and
> configure internet access. Then you can use the Software
> Update
> control panel to get 9.2.2 onto your hard drive. Restart in
> 10.3.9 and
> go to the classic control panel. Select 9.2.2 to use for
> classic and
> click "Start". OS X will then install the classic
> component for you.
>
> Let us know how this works out for you. Any other OS 9
> issues I'll be
> happy to help out.
>
> Erik
>
>
>
> --- In 1AppleFreeTech@yahoogroups.com, Lana Litwin
> <litack35@...> wrote:
> >
> >      I put 9.2 in and rebooted pushing c. I checked
> clean install
> but got a computer that has both 9.1.2 and 10.3.9 on
> it.Both versions
> are instaled on my hard drive. and I can access the
> programs. what
> should I list as  classic preferences though. each time I
> click on
> that it shows something different.now it shows something
> called
> "folder'. Also how do I update to 9.2.2? Where is
> my option to open in
> 9.2.1 so I can update to 9,2,2? Sorry to ask so many
> questins. Should
> I start a new post?
> >
> >
> > --- On Sat, 12/6/08, Erik Soren <sorenkarl@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Erik Soren <sorenkarl@...>
> > > Subject: Re: [1AppleFreeTech] trying to upgrade
> from 9.0 to 9.1
> > > To: 1AppleFreeTech@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 1:52 AM
> > > Try booting the computer normally and then run
> the update
> > > from the CD. Some Apple updates require you to
> install them
> > > that way. I downloaded 9.1 Update from the Apple
> website and
> > > it updated from the hard drive.
> > >
> > > Your going at this the right way now. I find it
> better to
> > > install OS 9 first before OS X. But you will have
> to install
> > > 9.2 and update to 9.2.2 to have classic. Then
> install and
> > > update OS X. When you start classic for the first
> time it
> > > will install the classic component for you in the
> OS 9
> > > folder.
> > >
> > > For full software compatibility and best running
> speed I
> > > suggest restarting in OS 9 when you need to use
> it, and not
> > > use Classic. Older machines like yours slow down
> > > significantly when running the Classic
> environment under OS
> > > X.
> > >
> > >
> > > Erik
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: litack35 <litack35@...>
> > > To: 1AppleFreeTech@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Friday, December 5, 2008 3:55:44 PM
> > > Subject: [1AppleFreeTech] trying to upgrade from
> 9.0 to 9.1
> > >
> > >      My final goal is to have classic and osx on
> the same
> > > computer. I have tried putting os x in
> > > and pushing "install 9 drivers,"That
> didn't
> > > work so I am trying it from the other end. I have
> a
> > > clean install for 9.0 now. If I put the 9.1 cd in
> ,I get an
> > > error that you can only upgrade to 9.1
> > > from 9.0. The "select" button never
> becomes
> > > available.I only get a "go back"
> button. I am
> > > pushing down the c button when I put in the 9.1
> cd and
> > > reboot
> > >       My bios on 9 before was 154. I assume it is
> that now
> > > but can't see that as an issue this
> > > time.
> > >      I am new to Apple. Any suggestions or
> articles to
> > > read?
> > >
> > >
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