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Burton Malkiel about Behavorial Finance in Barron's   Message List  
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Malkiel takes his pompousness out for yet another spin:
Apparently he has found some very special ways to beat the market, as he outlines in the interview, but his central tenet has always been that *you* can't beat the market.  In the interview he specifically dismisses behavioral finance methods as not being useful to beat the market..

http://online.barrons.com/article/SB124657276885488807.html?mod=googlenews_barrons&page=1


Excerpt from Barron's:

When A Random Walk was fist published, behavioral finance was much less prominent than it is today. What kind of contribution have the behaviorists made?

I teach behavioral finance in my course on financial markets, and I believe the contributions are really very great. Now, behavioral finance doesn't give you a way to beat the market. But it teaches us a lot of lessons about how to avoid mistakes. The behaviorists teach about overconfidence -- that we've got some illusion of control, and that we tend to trade too much.. And that's absolutely right; it's a wonderful lesson for investors.

Ibbotson Associates data suggest that, over the long haul, the markets have an average annual rate of return of something like 9½% since 1926. But average investors don't make anything like 9½%, because they tend to get in at the top and out at the bottom.

What about portfolio managers who say they can use behavioral finance to exploit opportunities?

I don't believe that at all. I haven't found any of them who can exploit those opportunities. The bubbles are only so clear in retrospect.





--- On Mon, 7/6/09, pgreenfinch <pgreenfinch@...> wrote:

From: pgreenfinch <pgreenfinch@...>
Subject: [Behavioral-Finance] 111th month newsletter
To: Behavioral-Finance@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 9:44 AM

Hi, dear members and visitors!
Here is your 111th month newsletter.

1) Monthly activity

The total of non bouncing members inches up (+5) at 1830.

There were very few new messages (15) reaching a total of 8835.

Still no idea of a topic that would move the masses?
I was asked about the "philosophy of money" in another
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But a strange tool, an abstract / immetarial one, a multipurpose
one (the Swiss army knife of the economy).
Its value is no more directly based on anything material, but on
a chain of commitments (between depositors, banks, borrowers,
central banks, states...).
Maybe it is more than just a tool?
With cultural and symbolic aspects added?
And itself a social link?
With huge embedded powers? With associated ethical traits that
make it either deified or demonized?
With links to time and space (time is money and trusted money is
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Anticipating good info and debates in this new month.
Best regards

Peter




Mon Jul 6, 2009 12:57 pm

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