Hi everyone,

I have just received in the mail our SIG's mission statement signed by five
SIG members.  (Thanks very much to the signers.)  I will be sending that
signed statement to National now for their review and approval.  The next
step I think will be to work on a printed brochure/member directory to send
to potential clients.

Martha Malnor

Business SIG Mission Statement
The Business SIG's mission is to provide publicity for members, serve as a
resource for job referrals among members, offer networking and information
exchange via the SIG discussion list, promote professional development, and
advance awareness of quality indexes for business-related publications.

Hi Martha,

The mission statement seems clear and to the point. Well done!

If you need additional signatures, I'd be happy to provide mine.

Regards,

Terri
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Teresa A. Hudoba
Indexers Plus--
Indexing, Editing, Proofreading
tahudoba@...



On 24 Oct 2000 05:06:27 -0000 BusinessSIG@egroups.com writes:
> I got a few suggestions after I sent out the first mission statement
> draft
> last month, so here is a revised draft.  I will leave this version
> open to
> comment until next Monday, October 30, and then I will be sending it
> to five
> members for signature and then on to ASI national for affiliation
> review.  In
> the meantime, I will work on the member directory/brochure.
> Thanks!
>
> Martha Malnor
>
>
*************************************************************************
*****
>
> **********
> Mission Statement
>
> The Business SIG's mission is to provide publicity for members
> through a
> directory and brochure, serve as a resource for job referrals among
> members,
> offer networking and information exchange via the SIG listserv,
> promote
> professional development, and advance awareness of quality indexes
> for
> business-related publications.
>
*************************************************************************
*****
>
> **********

Hi Everyone,

I got a few suggestions after I sent out the first mission statement draft
last month, so here is a revised draft.  I will leave this version open to
comment until next Monday, October 30, and then I will be sending it to five
members for signature and then on to ASI national for affiliation review.  In
the meantime, I will work on the member directory/brochure.  Thanks!

Martha Malnor

******************************************************************************

**********
Mission Statement

The Business SIG's mission is to provide publicity for members through a
directory and brochure, serve as a resource for job referrals among members,
offer networking and information exchange via the SIG listserv, promote
professional development, and advance awareness of quality indexes for
business-related publications.
******************************************************************************

**********

mamalnor@... wrote:
>
>
> WHAT TWO (OR MORE) THINGS DO YOU WANT TO GET OUT OF MEMBERSHIP IN THE
> BUSINESS SIG?
>


1 - Subject specific discussions on indexing

2 - Job postings/publisher referral

3 - Meeting new people with similar interests and concerns

Julie Kunshier

Ditto for me.

MANJIT K. SAHAI

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sandi Schroeder [SMTP:Sanindex@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 9:46 AM
> To: BusinessSIG@egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [BusinessSIG] SIG goals
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> I would have three goals.
>
> Job referrals and postings for jobs you can't handle.
>
> Development of workshop/program for national meeting
>
> Indexing advice on specific projects
>
> Sandi
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mamalnor@... <mamalnor@...>
> To: BusinessSIG@egroups.com <BusinessSIG@egroups.com>
> Date: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 4:25 PM
> Subject: [BusinessSIG] SIG goals
>
>
> >
> >Hi everyone,
> >
> >We need to set some specific goals for our SIG, so I need to know
> what you
> >want. If you have gotten benefits from another SIG that you are in,
> I'd
> like
> >to hear about it.  Regarding this Business SIG, please answer this
> question:
> >(If you already answered this request in August, please disregard
> this
> note.)
> >
> >WHAT TWO (OR MORE) THINGS DO YOU WANT TO GET OUT OF MEMBERSHIP IN THE
> >BUSINESS SIG?
> >
> >Thanks very much,
> >Martha
> >
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I would have three goals.

Job referrals and postings for jobs you can't handle.

Development of workshop/program for national meeting

Indexing advice on specific projects

Sandi
-----Original Message-----
From: mamalnor@... <mamalnor@...>
To: BusinessSIG@egroups.com <BusinessSIG@egroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 4:25 PM
Subject: [BusinessSIG] SIG goals


>
>Hi everyone,
>
>We need to set some specific goals for our SIG, so I need to know what you
>want. If you have gotten benefits from another SIG that you are in, I'd
like
>to hear about it.  Regarding this Business SIG, please answer this
question:
>(If you already answered this request in August, please disregard this
note.)
>
>WHAT TWO (OR MORE) THINGS DO YOU WANT TO GET OUT OF MEMBERSHIP IN THE
>BUSINESS SIG?
>
>Thanks very much,
>Martha
>
>To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>BusinessSIG-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
>
>

(1)  Job postings/referrals from publishers

(2)  Identify colleagues with subject expertise to whom jobs can be referred
(or who refer jobs to me!)

(3) Subject-specific indexing advice

Carolyn Weaver

----- Original Message -----
From: <mamalnor@...>
To: <BusinessSIG@egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 2:25 PM
Subject: [BusinessSIG] SIG goals


>
> Hi everyone,
>
> We need to set some specific goals for our SIG, so I need to know what you
> want. If you have gotten benefits from another SIG that you are in, I'd
like
> to hear about it.  Regarding this Business SIG, please answer this
question:
> (If you already answered this request in August, please disregard this
note.)
>
> WHAT TWO (OR MORE) THINGS DO YOU WANT TO GET OUT OF MEMBERSHIP IN THE
> BUSINESS SIG?
>
> Thanks very much,
> Martha
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> BusinessSIG-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
>
>

Hi everyone,

We need to set some specific goals for our SIG, so I need to know what you
want. If you have gotten benefits from another SIG that you are in, I'd like
to hear about it.  Regarding this Business SIG, please answer this question:
(If you already answered this request in August, please disregard this note.)

WHAT TWO (OR MORE) THINGS DO YOU WANT TO GET OUT OF MEMBERSHIP IN THE
BUSINESS SIG?

Thanks very much,
Martha

Hello,

I'd like to offer a couple of suggestions.

I see mentioning the date the SIG was founded as extraneous to the Mission
Statement. It would be great to include in other descriptions of the SIG,
but it's not related to the SIG's mission.

I think the benefits listed are rather vague. Exchange of what sort of
information, and for what purpose? What publisher/author information? What
kinds of tools and/or activities does the SIG provide for professional
development? What is "awareness of quality indexes," and to whom are we
promoting this awareness? I believe the benefits could be explained further,
and that the advantage of doing so would be to more clearly communicate the
value of SIG membership.

Be well,
Homer

Homer Ellison
Communications Specialist
ellisonh@...

Advantage Media Solutions
http://www.amsquality.com



> Mission Statement
>
> The Business SIG began in July, 2000 as a resource for indexers of
> business-related books.  The SIG's mission is to provide members with
> information exchange, publisher/author information, professional
development,
> and job referrals, and to advance awareness of quality indexes for
> business-related publications.

> The Business SIG began in July, 2000 as a resource for indexers of
> business-related books.  The SIG's mission is to provide members with
> information exchange, publisher/author information, professional development,
> and job referrals, and to advance awareness of quality indexes for
> business-related publications.
>

This sounds good to me.  The only thing I would change would be to
remove the "and" after "professional development,"

I would be willing to be a signature.

Julie Kunshier (who is very excited about this new SIG)

The mission statement works for me.
     I am willing to be a signature on the final mission statement.

Jacqui Brownstein
Freelance Indexing/Freelancing

Hi Everyone,

The first step in affiliating our SIG with ASI is to come up with a mission
statement.  Following is the proposed mission statement for the business SIG.
  I have tried to make this statement both simple and broad and to make it
consistent with ASI's mission statement.  I will leave this open to comment
until Monday, September 18, and then I will need to get 5 member signatures
on it before sending it in to ASI for their review.  Thanks!


Mission Statement

The Business SIG began in July, 2000 as a resource for indexers of
business-related books.  The SIG's mission is to provide members with
information exchange, publisher/author information, professional development,
and job referrals, and to advance awareness of quality indexes for
business-related publications.

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The following BusinessSIG poll is now closed.  Here are the
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POLL QUESTION: Should the business SIG charges dues?

CHOICES AND RESULTS
- yes, 4 votes, 66.67%
- no, 2 votes, 33.33%

INDIVIDUAL VOTES
- yes
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      - jettio@...


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POLL QUESTION: Should the business indexing SIG
affiliate with ASI?

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- yes, 6 votes, 100.00%
- no, 0 votes, 0.00%

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Dear Dawn,

We plan to post to the ASI Web site and I'd also like to have our own Web
site.  I will ask ASI if we have to be affiliated before we can post with
them, and I need a volunteer to work on our own Business SIG Web site.

A marketing directory is another good idea, but before we create one, we need
to decide whether to affiliate with ASI and whether to collect dues because
we need to have some money to produce a printed marketing directory (the
polls on these two issues are still open in e-groups). Are you thinking of a
printed directory to send to business-type publishers or something on-line? I
also think we will want to have our goals and mission statement set to post
both on the Web sites and in any printed directory we may do. What do you
think?

Martha

Dear Martha:

I didn't see the ad for the Business SIG, but I was curious if you, we or
someone would be posting the SIG to the ASI website?  Also, is there a
website in the works?  How about a marketing directory?

Just curious...

Dawn Snyder
Writer, Editor, Indexer

Hi everyone,

In looking through my new July/August Keywords, I do not find the ad I sent
Pilar announcing our new Business SIG.  Has anyone else found it in there?

Thanks,
Martha Malnor

Hi everyone,

If you have not already done so, will you please answer the two polls in
eGroups and the note from August 10 called "Business SIG goals"?

Thanks very much,
Martha Malnor

Thanks Martha. I appreciate the time you took to answer my questions so
thoroughly.

Dawn

Dear Dawn,

I'll do my best to answer your questions...

>>1. What is the alternative to NOT being an official SIG of ASI? How does it
exist without the affiliation? More like just a club? Please explain in
detail how being affiliated with ASI more beneficial than NOT being
affiliated--more than just prestige, visibility, or such--I'm looking for
something tangible.<<

Answer:  Without the ASI affiliation, the SIG is simply a group of indexers
with similar interests.  Many of the indexing SIGs out there now have not
been associated with ASI in the past, but they have still been able to
market, have Web sites, share information, etc.  I believe that the movement
now is for the indexing SIGs to affiliate with ASI.  As for benefits of
affiliation, ASI does give $50 to the SIG for operating costs once they are
affiliated.  Affiliation also forces the SIG to set goals and a mission
statement which will give us direction.  I believe that affiliation will also
give us credibility with publishers, a sense of permanency, and the benefit
of learning from other ASI-affiliated SIGs.

>>2. What are the dues of the SIG right now? What is the proposed cost
change?
What will the change cover? Is there a specific budgetary process?<<

Answer:  We do not have any dues yet.  Nor are there any costs yet, but the
costs I anticipate include Web site/domain name charges and possibly printing
and mailing charges related to publicizing our services.

I invite other Business SIG members to add more information to better answer
Dawn's questions.  Did you take a look at the initial egroups note from
7/27/00?  It gives a rundown of what's happened so far in this SIG.

Thanks,
Martha

Hi everyone,

We need to work toward establishing goals for our SIG.  Please answer
this question:

WHAT TWO (OR MORE) THINGS DO YOU WANT TO GET OUT OF MEMBERSHIP IN THE
BUSINESS SIG?

I have also used the egroups polling feature to ask you a couple of
other questions.  Thanks in advance for your responses.  I'll publish
the answers to this question and the two polls when they are in.

Thanks very much,
Martha Malnor

These might seem like crazy questions to ask, but since I'm new to this list
and trying to determine if I want to join, I'd like to ask:

1. What is the alternative to NOT being an official SIG of ASI? How does it
exist without the affiliation? More like just a club? Please explain in
detail how being affiliated with ASI more beneficial than NOT being
affiliated--more than just prestige, visibility, or such--I'm looking for
something tangible.

2. What are the dues of the SIG right now? What is the proposed cost change?
What will the change cover? Is there a specific budgetary process?

Thanks for the info.

Dawn

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Thanks!

> 1. In your opinion, should we affiliate with ASI? (why or why not?)
> 2. Shall we charge dues for SIG members?  (why or why not?)
> 3. What two (or more) things do you want to get out of membership
in
> this SIG?
>
> Thanks very much!
>
> Martha Malnor
> mamalnor@a...

Yes, we should affiliate with ASI.  This will mean that all members
should belong to one of the six affiliated indexing societies.  For
example, a British member of the SIG would belong to the Society of
Indexers, not ASI.

We should postpone the dues discussion until we have a project that
actually calls for real expenditures.  The Culinary Indexing SIG will
probably be producing a marketing directory; if the members want a
mailed, printed version, we will have to discuss dues.

I'd like to break down the general description of business-related
publications into specific components and see other members'
experience in indexing different kinds of business publications.  I
myself would be interested in indexing tax publications and personal
finance publications.  So, I'd like to see the "professional
development" component grow.

I'd like to see the beginnings of a network for referrals as well.

Kathleen Spaltro
Coordinator, Culinary Indexing SIG
winfrank@...

Two things I want to note:

(1)  All members of an ASI-affiliated SIG must belong to one of the six
affiliated indexing societies, not only to ASI.

(2)  If you want to poll the membership, it is easier to use the poll
feature at egroups.

Kathy Spaltro
Coordinator, Culinary Indexing SIG
winfrank@...

Hi everybody,

Thanks for responding to the note through egroups.com.  The URL for
our main page is http://www.egroups.com/group/BusinessSIG.  The
description I put in is:  "BusinessSIG@egroups.com is an open
forum
for indexers of business-related publications to exchange
ideas/questions/work tips with each other."

Here's what I have found out about starting our business SIG:

On ASI affiliation:
We need to decide if we are going to affiliate with ASI.  If we do,
all SIG members have to be ASI members, and ASI gives us $50 spending
money.  I have asked ASI for the affiliation forms to see what they
entail.

On membership fees:
We need  to decide whether or not to charge dues for joining the
SIG.  I found out that the culinary SIG has no dues (yet), and the
medical-science SIG currently collects a one-time fee of $25 from
members.  Costs we may incur will include paying for a domain name,
Web site maintenance, printing and mailing costs…

On SIG publicity:
I have a note to send to Pilar announcing our SIG in Keywords to get
more interest.  (I received 12 responses of interest to my e-mail
note on ASI-L).  We can also go international by announcing the SIG
to the British, South African, Chinese, Australian, and Canadian ASI
groups if we want to.

I did not post my note asking who is interested in this SIG anywhere
except on ASI-L yet.  I would like to post to Index-L and the
indexing student listserv too, and it will be important to note
whether or not SIG members need to be ASI members too.

On first order of business:
We need goal and mission statements (whether or not we affiliate with
ASI) so we know where we are going.  We can poll SIG members to find
out what we all want from this SIG.

We will need SIG member(s) who can design and create a Web site for
our SIG so we can refer potential clients there.

There are other ideas I heard about from the culinary and med/sci
SIGs, but I think that the above are our top priorities, so…will
you
please answer these three questions to get us started?  I'll tally
the results as they come in.

1. In your opinion, should we affiliate with ASI? (why or why not?)
2. Shall we charge dues for SIG members?  (why or why not?)
3. What two (or more) things do you want to get out of membership in
this SIG?

Thanks very much!

Martha Malnor
mamalnor@...