Right on time!  I barely caught it. 9 cars.



6408

6419

8605

8137

8516

Palliser

Chateau Marquette

Monck Manor

Blair Manor

Mackenzie Manor

Prince Albert Park



Steve Boyko

www.traingeek.ca





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Depends on how much you like trains, and if you plan to re-sell your house to
someone who does not share your interests.

Steve Lucas.

--- In Canadian-Passenger-Rail@yahoogroups.com, "Jakob" <via_6790@...> wrote:
>
> --- In Canadian-Passenger-Rail@yahoogroups.com, "steve l" <stevelucas3@>
wrote:
> >
> > One should be aware of activities that may disrupt one's enjoyment of life,
such as the regular passage of trains next to one's residence.
>
> Disrupt, or enhance? :-D
>
> Jakob
>

--- In Canadian-Passenger-Rail@yahoogroups.com, "steve l" <stevelucas3@...>
wrote:
>
> One should be aware of activities that may disrupt one's enjoyment of life,
such as the regular passage of trains next to one's residence.

Disrupt, or enhance? :-D

Jakob

Sunday November 2,, 2009
OS: London VIA Station

#73
900  P42DC
3466 LRC Club
3453 LRC Club
3311 LRC Coach
3342 LRC Coach
3320 LRC Coach
4114 HEP-II Coach (off)
4121 HEP-II Coach (off)
4101 HEP-II Coach (off)
4000 HEP-II Club (off)
908  P42DC (off)

9 cars arrived
908 and 4 cars set off for Monday's #86

Doug Bardeau
London, ON

Thx everyone for your comments. This one must of slipped by me, as I never
did see any promo from sunlight out here in Vancouver for VIA.


> It's legit. The coupons were being resold on eBay a while back for a
> couple bucks as well.
>
> Will
>
> On 2009-11-22, at 3:04 AM, Terry wrote:
>
>> This following site is telling you how to get 50% off in Comfort Class on
>> VIA Rail. I don't recall of seeing any Coupon on Sunlight Soap? Here is
>> the
>> link to the site:

It's legit. The coupons were being resold on eBay a while back for a couple
bucks as well.

Will

On 2009-11-22, at 3:04 AM, Terry wrote:

> This following site is telling you how to get 50% off in Comfort Class on
> VIA Rail. I don't recall of seeing any Coupon on Sunlight Soap? Here is the
> link to the site:



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Hi all,

All we have at Delson is the 6921 - no cars.

It is my understanding that the demo coach was scrapped.

John

John Godfrey
Les Services Semaphore Services
www.semaphoreservices.com

Terry Muirhead wrote:
> This following site is telling you how to get 50% off in
> Comfort Class on VIA Rail. I don't recall of seeing any
> Coupon on Sunlight Soap? Here is the link to the site:
> http://smartcanucks.ca/via-rail-canada-coupons-codes-50-off-regular-fare/

I don't see any reason to think this is a scam.  However,
<URL:http://www.viarail.ca/conditions/11472/> says

"The Sunlight Family Savings in-store booklet promotion is
now over. If you have valid coupons left, you can still
redeem them until the expiry date indicated."

You do need a coupon, not just the discount code, since
the same web page says, "One original coupon must be
surrendered for each passenger travelling to a VIA ticket
agent at the time of ticket issuance. No facsimiles
accepted."

Since the promotion is over, according to VIA, Sunlight
is presumably not giving out coupons any more.  So it
looks like we missed out on this one.

Tom Box  <tbox@...>  Toronto, ON, Canada

At 04:04 AM 11/22/2009, you wrote:
>
>
>This following site is telling you how to get 50% off in Comfort Class on
>VIA Rail. I don't recall of seeing any Coupon on Sunlight Soap? Here is the
>link to the site:
><http://smartcanucks.ca/via-rail-canada-coupons-codes-50-off-regular-fare/>http\
://smartcanucks.ca/via-rail-canada-coupons-codes-50-off-regular-fare/
>

Read comment 25 on that page....

25

Zee says...
[]

<http://smartcanucks.ca/via-rail-canada-coupons-codes-50-off-regular-fare/#comme\
nt-595724>October
7, 2009 at 1:35 pm

The lady at sunlight advised me that I could do the following to
obtain a coupon:
1. Purchase 2 x or 3x sunlight laundry detergent
2. mail the original reciept to Sunlight Saving Booklet offer, PO 38,
Saint John New Brunswick E2L 3X1 and if they had any coupons left the
would mail me one. She said it would take them 4 - 6 weeks to process this.

Regards,
Zara

   ----------

----------------------------
Paul Duncan - Webmaster
www.NiagaraRails.com
Welland, Ontario

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This following site is telling you how to get 50% off in Comfort Class on
VIA Rail. I don't recall of seeing any Coupon on Sunlight Soap? Here is the
link to the site:
http://smartcanucks.ca/via-rail-canada-coupons-codes-50-off-regular-fare/

I just had a look at my slide of the original loco taken on 13 June, 1982, at
the MLW plant in Montreal.  The trucks and front coupler are missing.  The
carbody otherwise appears intact and is supported at about normal height above
the rails, with the pilot intact.

By the way, one of the Amtrak LRC loco's was photographed from a distance in the
back of the plant as well on that date.

Steve Lucas.

--- In Canadian-Passenger-Rail@yahoogroups.com, Dan Garcia <smallspy_g@...>
wrote:
>
> The coach and locomotive were both scrapped prior to the first production LRC
being completed.
>
> The story goes that Bombardier used the mechanical bits from the locomotive to
build their HR412 demonstrator.
>
> Dan
> Toronto, Ont.
>
> --- On Sat, 11/21/09, Michael <mpatey123@...> wrote:
>
> > From: Michael <mpatey123@...>
> > Subject: [CanPassRail] Original LRC Train set
> > To: Canadian-Passenger-Rail@yahoogroups.com
> > Received: Saturday, November 21, 2009, 3:09 PM
> > Hi
> >  while speaking of the LRC Train in my last message i
> > always wondered what happened to the Origianl LRC locomotive
> > and car? Were they scrapped or sold after testing?
> >
> > Mike
>
>
>       __________________________________________________________________
> Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo!
Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com
>

I remember the Futura, but there doesn't appear to have consisted of much more
than a couple of press releases and a full page ad. Likely there was some
lobbying the government, as this was the time they were moving toward what later
became VIA. There may have been some provincial rivalry involved since Futura
represented Ontario companies while the LRC partners were in Quebec. Futura
probably was a non started because the LRC had already been engineered and had a
prototype, while Futura presumably hadn't got any detailed specs. If Futura had
been built, it might still be using its original locomotives, since GM's engines
have lasted more than the LRC's Alco models.

Don Thomas

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Michael
   To: Canadian-Passenger-Rail@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 1:07 PM
   Subject: [CanPassRail] Planned Canadian Hi-speed train from 1970's



   Does anyone know what became of a planned Canadian high Speed train from the
1970's called the "Futura"? It was supposed to ba a joint venture between
General Motors and Hawker Siddely Canada. GM would build the locomotives and H.S
Canada the coaches. The Futura trains were supposed to compete with the LRC
trains.

   sincerely
   Michael Patey





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The coach and locomotive were both scrapped prior to the first production LRC
being completed.

The story goes that Bombardier used the mechanical bits from the locomotive to
build their HR412 demonstrator.

Dan
Toronto, Ont.

--- On Sat, 11/21/09, Michael <mpatey123@...> wrote:

> From: Michael <mpatey123@...>
> Subject: [CanPassRail] Original LRC Train set
> To: Canadian-Passenger-Rail@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Saturday, November 21, 2009, 3:09 PM
> Hi
>  while speaking of the LRC Train in my last message i
> always wondered what happened to the Origianl LRC locomotive
> and car? Were they scrapped or sold after testing?
>
> Mike


       __________________________________________________________________
Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo!
Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com

There has been a similar situation down here roughly between Lakeshore and
Tecumseh where locals have been protesting the whistle blowing of 70 and 79
One resident wrote in demanding the whistles be stopped and it was published in
the local newspaper. Two rsponded and i was one of them. The horn
is essential  and that is it.  James Windsor
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: rlkennedy27
   To: Canadian-Passenger-Rail@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 5:25 PM
   Subject: [CanPassRail] Re: Whistles in Barrie



   How many of those south end residents take the GO train? How many like to
sleep a bit later and drive or work locally? How many are retired and want to
sleep a _lot_ later! :)

   --- In Canadian-Passenger-Rail@yahoogroups.com, "Walter Pfefferle"
<wpfefferle@...> wrote:
   >
   >
   > Funny how Barrie cried until GO service came now they want GO to not blow
   > they whistle.
   >
   > http://www.thebarrieexaminer.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2180327
   >
   > Sometimes you just can't win.
   >
   > Railpast
   > Walter Pfefferle
   > Beachville Ontario
   >
   >
   >
   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
   >





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Hi There,                                     Nov 21st, 09,  
13:45 Hrs. M.S.T.


                             Re the Original Cars. Not Sure But I Believe They
May B at the
                    Canadian Railway Museum in Delson, que.
                            There is a L.R.C. Diesel Engine There Plus a Car. A
Note to the
                    Museum Should Answer the Question.
                            If They are Not the Originals, Guess We Didn't Have
the Smarts
                    to Make an Effort to Keep the Originals, and That Means Cdn
Historical
                    Items Scrapped, for Lack of Forsight as I See It,

                    Thanks Group,

                    Andrew,
                    Calgary.
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I believe the locomotive was scrapped. I don't know of the coach.

I'm surprised Rapido isn't making a model of it as well as their Amtrak and VIA
LRC equipment.

--- In Canadian-Passenger-Rail@yahoogroups.com, "Michael" <mpatey123@...> wrote:
>
> Hi
>  while speaking of the LRC Train in my last message i always wondered what
happened to the Origianl LRC locomotive and car? Were they scrapped or sold
after testing?
>
> Mike
>

Hi
  while speaking of the LRC Train in my last message i always wondered what
happened to the Origianl LRC locomotive and car? Were they scrapped or sold
after testing?

Mike

Does anyone know what became of a planned Canadian high Speed train from the
1970's called the "Futura"? It was supposed to ba a joint venture between
General Motors and Hawker Siddely Canada. GM would build the locomotives and H.S
Canada the coaches. The Futura trains were supposed to compete with the LRC
trains.

sincerely
Michael Patey

One should be aware of activities that may disrupt one's enjoyment of life, such
as the regular passage of trains next to one's residence.

But I recall beng told a good 25 years ago of a certain well-known CPR employee
looking at a house next to the CPR Galt Sub.  When he asked the real estate
agent how busy the "train tracks" were, the answer was "I think that it's
abandoned".  Sometimes people are sold a bill of goods.

Steve Lucas.

--- In Canadian-Passenger-Rail@yahoogroups.com, "Mark W. Walton"
<mark.walton@...> wrote:
>
> If people live near a railway line, especially by choice, what do they
> expect - peace and quiet? That reminds me of a NIMBY crowd who bough their
> houses near the south end of Ottawa's O-Train line - "on the understanding
> the tracks were to be ripped up!" Eventually the City had to build a big,
> ugly wall to separate their houses form the tracks; predictably that wall
> became a spray painters' "canvas".
>
> Mark Walton
> mark.walton@...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Canadian-Passenger-Rail@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Canadian-Passenger-Rail@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of steve l
> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 8:16 AM
> To: Canadian-Passenger-Rail@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [CanPassRail] Re: Whistles in Barrie
>
> Whistling for crossings is a sensible safety precaution that saves lives.
>
>
> Steve Lucas.
>

Tom I forgot to mention there will be a Chateau in the Winter Consist, but
it will be not in use. I forget what the Reason is, why this Chateau is
mixed in the Consist?

Not usually, but I saw the equipment from #2 going from
Union Station to the Toronto Maintenance Centre this morning,
and it did have a Château in the consist.  It was immediately
behind the dining car, not ahead of the baggage car, so it
could have been in service.  The Telus unit was leading, but
I didn't get any car names/numbers.

> Since these Chateau cars are not needed out West, they
> could be on their way to Montreal for use on the Trains
> #14/15 for the Christmas Season as I think 1 or 2 Trains
> sets will be HEP 1 Equipment?

There were two Budd Oceans in service simultaneously for
one round trip last Xmas, but the last time I checked
ReserVIA, it only showed one Budd set in use for the
coming holidays.

The first Budd Ocean of the winter is scheduled to leave
Montreal Central Station tonight.  It will surely be
longer at Xmas than now, so perhaps extra cars are being
moved to Montreal to expand the consist for the holidays.

Tom Box  <tbox@...>  Toronto, ON, Canada

VIA #2 Departed Pacific Central Station Track 5 on time at 8:30pm.

6425 Mtrl Assigned Unit
6440 Vcvr Assigned Unit
8229 Chateau Viger D/H off at Wpg.
8408 Empress Dining Car D/H off at Trto.
8604 Baggage
8116
8509 Skyline
8209 Chateau Iberville D/H off at Trto
8308 Bliss Manor D/H off at Trto
8332 Laird Manor D/H off at Trto.
8410 Frontenac Dining Car
8322 Drummond Manor
8324 Dunsmuir Manor
8329 Hearne Manor
8703 Banff Park

2 Units, 13 Cars

If people live near a railway line, especially by choice, what do they
expect - peace and quiet? That reminds me of a NIMBY crowd who bough their
houses near the south end of Ottawa's O-Train line - "on the understanding
the tracks were to be ripped up!" Eventually the City had to build a big,
ugly wall to separate their houses form the tracks; predictably that wall
became a spray painters' "canvas".

Mark Walton
mark.walton@...

-----Original Message-----
From: Canadian-Passenger-Rail@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Canadian-Passenger-Rail@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of steve l
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 8:16 AM
To: Canadian-Passenger-Rail@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CanPassRail] Re: Whistles in Barrie

Whistling for crossings is a sensible safety precaution that saves lives.


Steve Lucas.

Here's the consist of the first Budd Ocean
of the season, courtesy of Doug Lawrence of
the AtlanticRails list:

> Via #14 passed by mile 3.9 in Halifax today,
> Friday, 20 November 2009, at 1607 AST.
>
> Consist: 6405, 6435; 8608; 8112, 8140; 8507;
> diner Acadian; sleepers Chateau Laval,
> C. Bienville and C. Maisonneuve.

64xx = F40 locomotive
86xx = HEP1 baggage car
81xx = HEP1 coach
85xx = Skyline dome-lounge car

Tom Box  <tbox@...>  Toronto, ON, Canada

Should have been VIA8212 Chateau Latour.

  -Matt

"No man knows, or can ever know everything. Yet, every man should desire to, and
attempt to learn everything. As well as teach what he knows. That is, of course,
part of the meaning of life." - Socrates





________________________________
From: Robert <unknownfte@...>
To: Canadian-Passenger-Rail@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 3:34:31 PM
Subject: [CanPassRail] Chateau sleepers on #1


I observed the equipment for #1 sitting at the TMC yard on the way home on
Tuesday evening, and it also had a single Chateau immediately behind the dining
car. Too dark for any names/numbers, but there was definitely one in the
consist.

Robert Lubinski,
Toronto, ON

Tom Box wrote:

> Not usually, but I saw the equipment from #2 going from
> Union Station to the Toronto Maintenance Centre this morning,
> and it did have a Château in the consist.  It was immediately
> behind the dining car, not ahead of the baggage car, so it
> could have been in service.  The Telus unit was leading, but
> I didn't get any car names/numbers.
>







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I observed the equipment for #1 sitting at the TMC yard on the way home on
Tuesday evening, and it also had a single Chateau immediately behind the dining
car. Too dark for any names/numbers, but there was definitely one in the
consist.

Robert Lubinski,
Toronto, ON


Tom Box wrote:

> Not usually, but I saw the equipment from #2 going from
> Union Station to the Toronto Maintenance Centre this morning,
> and it did have a Château in the consist.  It was immediately
> behind the dining car, not ahead of the baggage car, so it
> could have been in service.  The Telus unit was leading, but
> I didn't get any car names/numbers.
>

Today's #2 in Winnipeg had 2 dead head Chateau's and 1 in service
behind the diner.

Will

Sent from my iPhone

On 2009-11-19, at 12:18 PM, Tom Box <tbox@...> wrote:

> Not usually, but I saw the equipment from #2 going from
> Union Station to the Toronto Maintenance Centre this morning,
> and it did have a Château in the consist. It was immediately
> behind the dining car, not ahead of the baggage car, so it
> could have been in service. The Telus unit was leading, but
> I didn't get any car names/numbers.

I'm not under the impression that railways were particularly mindful of local
spellings. A case in point is Peterborough which was often spelled Peterboro,
with no particlular pattern or logic as the spelling varied over time.
Derek Boles

         3d.



         Re: Station Names in Great Hall

     Posted by:      "David Jeanes"
       djeanes@...
                

           dljeanes



       Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:40 am        (PST)





So it appears that the railways respected the city council decision, where

the cost to make the change was not too high. (Timetable text had to be

edited in each timetable revision anyway). However, changing the map would

doubtless have been a more costly change. I expect that while the railways

were not in an expansion phase, it would seldom be modified. Was there any

evidence of other map changes over time?








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Terry Muirhead wrote:
> Now that we are in the Fall Season, & going into the Winter
> Season the Chateau Cars are not used on Trains #1/2 during
> this time.

Not usually, but I saw the equipment from #2 going from
Union Station to the Toronto Maintenance Centre this morning,
and it did have a Château in the consist.  It was immediately
behind the dining car, not ahead of the baggage car, so it
could have been in service.  The Telus unit was leading, but
I didn't get any car names/numbers.

> Since these Chateau cars are not needed out West, they
> could be on their way to Montreal for use on the Trains
> #14/15 for the Christmas Season as I think 1 or 2 Trains
> sets will be HEP 1 Equipment?

There were two Budd Oceans in service simultaneously for
one round trip last Xmas, but the last time I checked
ReserVIA, it only showed one Budd set in use for the
coming holidays.

The first Budd Ocean of the winter is scheduled to leave
Montreal Central Station tonight.  It will surely be
longer at Xmas than now, so perhaps extra cars are being
moved to Montreal to expand the consist for the holidays.

Tom Box  <tbox@...>  Toronto, ON, Canada

I wrote:
>> The June 27, 1926 timetable used Saint John. The
>> November 1, 1923 timetable had used St. John. These
>> timetables are on line at <URL:http://www.cpsig.ca/>.

David Jeanes wrote:
> So it appears that the railways respected the city council
> decision, where the cost to make the change was not too high.
> (Timetable text had to be edited in each timetable revision
> anyway). However, changing the map would doubtless have been
> a more costly change. I expect that while the railways were
> not in an expansion phase, it would seldom be modified.  Was
> there any evidence of other map changes over time?

The CP timetables mentioned above had at least three maps
showing the city in question, one for western Nova Scotia
(Dominion Atlantic) and southwest New Brunswick, one for
all of New Brunswick, and one for all of Canada.

All three maps say "St. John" in the 1923 timetable, and
all three say "Saint John" in 1926.

Tom Box  <tbox@...>  Toronto, ON, Canada

Go over on the American side, and you'll see vehicles slalom around crossing
gates all the time.  I'm convinced that the Michigan driver's test requires one
to go around gates at at least 30 MPH.  Even gates can't prevent a collision--

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKmcIH6l7vE

Whistling for crossings is a sensible safety precaution that saves lives.

Steve Lucas.



--- In Canadian-Passenger-Rail@yahoogroups.com, "newmarket111" <MARKPRINGLE@...>
wrote:
>
>
> As long as there's a gate I don't see a problem, no gates, big problem,
drivers can be crazy at crossings!  The article says all 3 crossings are
gated/lighted/belled so should still be safe for the motoring public, don't know
about peds & cycles though?
>
> Do you think this service will br all day, the morning runs are very early.
>
> Mark Pringle
> Gravenhurst
>