Members must send their postings to the group, not to solar!

Solar, Wind and even Geothermal is getting cheaper and may even cheaper
than coal and gas burning. If you adding the social cost of pollution,
then it is a lot cheaper and healthier.

There are many Algal fuel companies roaming the internet.
supposedly should have Algal Diesel from a Riverside company. Algal
gasoline from a San Diego company. Algal ethanol, butanol, jet fuel
all are alive some places. But we still could not see mass production or
any bio fuel stations to replace the fossil fuel stations.

Why they have to wait for the carbon tax kicks in to act, we have algal
fuels to replace some fossil fuel by now. And easy legislation to force
auto makers to make EV along side their ICE version. Within 2 years, we
shall have EV in every cites. If you looked at all
the concept compact EV, they are almost identical. Look very cute, or
a metal box. Not all drivers are yuppies. Actually if car maker could
just convert our daily vehicles to electric, I believe a lot of drivers
will buy, and what is yuppi or stylish? EV is just another transporation
vehicles. Just roll out EV version of the popular car models for now.
We can dig into those fancy EV later on when they become "available".
Mini-EV, Smart-EV, RAV-4-EV, bring them on.....

> Until Solar, Wind, and Geothermal Power become economical, more
> efficient utilization of existing sources of energy is the way to go.At
> this point it actually takes far more energy from start to finish to use
> Alternative Energy since there is so much hassle and expense involved,
> especially in transportation.


But Alternative use of conventional Energy
> is actually illegal ! Toward that end I would really like to see the
> EPA-OBD II Annual Vehicle Emissions Inspection Law closely examined and
> changed.As it stands right now, it is entirely possible for any Gasoline
> powered Vehicle from 1996 to the present to fail it's Emissions
> Inspection, for not emitting enough polluting Exhaust Emissions !

All such Vehicles have on board Oxygen [O2] Exhaust Sensors.
These O2 Sensors are set up to detect a level of polluting Exhaust
Emissions that would
> indicate that Gasoline is being consumed by an Engine at 14.7 parts of
> Air to 1 part of Fuel.If there is a low level of
> Oxygen, and a high level of Pollution, a Vehicle will fail it's
> Emissions Inspection as well it should.

But Gasoline can be safely
> vaporized into a mixture that is 100 parts of Air to 1 part of Fuel.With
> this, even the largest SUV could easily get 50 + MPG and emit a fraction
> of the Emissions of a conventional 14.7/1 Fuel System, with an increase
> in Power, and much longer Engine life.I'm not the first to figure this
> out.Far from it ! For proof, do a search on [the late] Tom Ogle, and
> Charles Nelson Pogue.Then, go to
> http://energy21.freeservers.com/bookrep.html and scan down the page to
> just before the update.

But even if it is not to be believed that Fuel
> Vaporization is entirely possible, it's illegal to even attempt to do so
> with any Vehicle from 1996 to the present.O2 Sensors are set up to
> detect that Fuel is being consumed at 14.7/1. A mixture of 100 / 1 will
> not emit enough Polluting Exhaust Emissions to register on O2
> Sensors.When such a Vehicle is
> connected to an OBD II Emissions Inspection Analyzer, an O2 Sensor
> Failure Code will be generated, which will result in a failed Emissions
> Inspection.O2 Sensor Exemptions are permitted for Vehicles that have
> been legally converted to operate on Natural Gas, Propane, or Hydrogen,
> and are Registered as such.But not for vaporized Gasoline.Thus, it is
> entirely possible under this EPA-OBD II Vehicle Emissions Inspection Law
> for any Gasoline powered Vehicle from 1996 to the present to fail it's
> Emissions Test for not emitting enough polluting Exhaust Emissions !

As
> long as this insane 14.7/1 Law  that only benefits Big Oil  remains in
> effect, the only way to make Vehicles more "efficient" will be to make
> them lighter, and smaller.This has got to change ! I have asked the
> Question many times ; "Why is it illegal for any Gasoline powered
> Vehicle from 1996 to the present to emit too little polluting Exhaust
> Emissions"? So far, not one Big Oil Executive,
> Politician, or Concerned Environmentalist can, or will answer the
> Question.Those that have bothered to reply can't seem to come up with an
> Answer either.Can you ?