Nice job!

I suspect if Conrail has stayed around, you'd have seen all the B36-
7, C36-7, C30-7a, C32-8, C39-8 and SD50 models disappear and be
returned to their lessors.  They were all junk and all
Conrail's "purchases" were actually 15-16 year leases.  I don't think
they'd have bitten on a purchase at the end of the lease.  I also
think you'd have seen more SD80MACS, but no SD70MACs - maybe 50 or so
a year.  I think you have it right that they would have some AC4400s -
  maybe 25 a year or so, and perhaps some GEVOs.  Perhaps a few trial
SD90MACs and AC6000's would have been purchased along the way, too.


-Don


--- In ConrailCorp@yahoogroups.com, "Mark and Austin MacDougall"
<conrail6707@r...> wrote:
>
> Here is a modern Conrail roster I've been working on:
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> 700-759 C40-8W*
> 760-799 C44-9WAC (AC4400CW) */***
> 1003-1022 MT-4
> 1100-1128 MT-6
> 1600-1699 GP15-1
> 1900-1902 B23-7
> 1910-2023 B23-7**
> 2030-2040 B30-S7R
> 2800-2816 B23-7
> 3275-3403 GP40-2**
> 4020-4022 E8
> 4100-4128 SD80MAC
> 4129-4155 SD80MAC***
> 4156-4183 SD70MAC***
> 4184-4199 SD70ACe (On Order)***
> 5000-5059 B36-7**
> 5060-5089 B40-8
> 5500-5574 SD60M
> 5575-5653 SD60I
> 6000-6021 C39-8
> 6025-6049 C40-8
> 6050-6285 C40-8W
> 6286-6330 C44-9WAC (AC4400CW)***
> 6331-6355 ES44AC (On Order)***
> 6358-6524 SD40-2**
> 6550-6599 C30-7A**
> 6610-6619 C32-8
> 6654-6666 SD45-2
> 6700-6834 SD50
> 6840-6867 SD60
> 6925-6959 SD38
> 6960-6999 SD40-2R
> 7656-7939 GP38**
> 8040-8281 GP38-2**
> 9400-9424 SW1001
> 9500-9600 SW1500
> 9606-9620 SW1500
>
> Notes:
> *Painted for Locomotive Management Services (LMSX)
> **Some units retired
> *** Post 1998 order
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
--
>
> I'm sure not everything is 100% correct, but this is how I think it
> would be like.

Conrail was not looking and SD70MACs.  They had little need for them -
  they were a poor fit for general frt service and were not much
cheaper than the 80MACs.

--- In ConrailCorp@yahoogroups.com, "Mark and Austin MacDougall"
<conrail6707@r...> wrote:
>
> I think Conrail would be an all widenose and AC traction railroad
by
> the late 90's, in the Split never happened. I'm guessing that the
> proposed order of 80MAC's would be the last of the 80's (after
that,
> either SD90's, or 70MAC's would be delivered, IMO the odds of
> 70MAC's would be higher). Of course, we will never know for certain
> what Conrail would buy next. :(

Yes, the Conrail power would have evolved to a much different medium...the
eastbound traffic is often heavy on the trains run around the Northeast, not
even considering some of the grades pulled over (Washington Hill, Horseshoe
Curve, Pattenburg...maybe even Keating, if the BUFL still fit the current
gameplan - since CR had 4 routes into it).

Eric

   Nice job!

   I suspect if Conrail has stayed around, you'd have seen all the B36-
   7, C36-7, C30-7a, C32-8, C39-8 and SD50 models disappear and be
   returned to their lessors.  They were all junk and all
   Conrail's "purchases" were actually 15-16 year leases.  I don't think
   they'd have bitten on a purchase at the end of the lease.  I also
   think you'd have seen more SD80MACS, but no SD70MACs - maybe 50 or so
   a year.  I think you have it right that they would have some AC4400s -
   maybe 25 a year or so, and perhaps some GEVOs.  Perhaps a few trial
   SD90MACs and AC6000's would have been purchased along the way, too.

   -Don

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OK, I knew most were on lease, but I wasn't sure how long they would
last. It seemed like Conrail never kept anything for over 15 years,
I guess thats why (I wonder what would happen to the C40-8W's, the
first order is 14 now).

--- In ConrailCorp@yahoogroups.com, "Don Oltmann" <donoltmann@y...>
wrote:
>
> Nice job!
>
> I suspect if Conrail has stayed around, you'd have seen all the
B36-
> 7, C36-7, C30-7a, C32-8, C39-8 and SD50 models disappear and be
> returned to their lessors.  They were all junk and all
> Conrail's "purchases" were actually 15-16 year leases.  I don't
think
> they'd have bitten on a purchase at the end of the lease.  I also
> think you'd have seen more SD80MACS, but no SD70MACs - maybe 50 or
so
> a year.  I think you have it right that they would have some
AC4400s -
>  maybe 25 a year or so, and perhaps some GEVOs.  Perhaps a few
trial
> SD90MACs and AC6000's would have been purchased along the way, too.
>
>
> -Don
>
>
> --- In ConrailCorp@yahoogroups.com, "Mark and Austin MacDougall"
> <conrail6707@r...> wrote:
> >
> > Here is a modern Conrail roster I've been working on:
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
---
> --
> > 700-759 C40-8W*
> > 760-799 C44-9WAC (AC4400CW) */***
> > 1003-1022 MT-4
> > 1100-1128 MT-6
> > 1600-1699 GP15-1
> > 1900-1902 B23-7
> > 1910-2023 B23-7**
> > 2030-2040 B30-S7R
> > 2800-2816 B23-7
> > 3275-3403 GP40-2**
> > 4020-4022 E8
> > 4100-4128 SD80MAC
> > 4129-4155 SD80MAC***
> > 4156-4183 SD70MAC***
> > 4184-4199 SD70ACe (On Order)***
> > 5000-5059 B36-7**
> > 5060-5089 B40-8
> > 5500-5574 SD60M
> > 5575-5653 SD60I
> > 6000-6021 C39-8
> > 6025-6049 C40-8
> > 6050-6285 C40-8W
> > 6286-6330 C44-9WAC (AC4400CW)***
> > 6331-6355 ES44AC (On Order)***
> > 6358-6524 SD40-2**
> > 6550-6599 C30-7A**
> > 6610-6619 C32-8
> > 6654-6666 SD45-2
> > 6700-6834 SD50
> > 6840-6867 SD60
> > 6925-6959 SD38
> > 6960-6999 SD40-2R
> > 7656-7939 GP38**
> > 8040-8281 GP38-2**
> > 9400-9424 SW1001
> > 9500-9600 SW1500
> > 9606-9620 SW1500
> >
> > Notes:
> > *Painted for Locomotive Management Services (LMSX)
> > **Some units retired
> > *** Post 1998 order
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
---
> --
> >
> > I'm sure not everything is 100% correct, but this is how I think
it
> > would be like.

I figure I'll start stirring things up now; Watch for improvements to
the CRCorp website! Your bookmarks will be changing :)

~Kris

"Don Oltmann" <donoltmann@...> wrote:











  i think that the C36-7 THEY WOULD KEP AND  THE B36-7 USE IN LOCAL SERVICE OR
Helper service around Canton,Oh with the Lower 8200's gp38-2's and yes More
80Mac and few sd60I's and tons of AC4400CW'S OR C44-9w'S  THE SD 70Mac's would
been a waste any how

>
>Nice job!
>
>I suspect if Conrail has stayed around, you'd have seen all the B36-
>7, C36-7, C30-7a, C32-8, C39-8 and SD50 models disappear and be
>returned to their lessors.  They were all junk and all
>Conrail's "purchases" were actually 15-16 year leases.  I don't think
>they'd have bitten on a purchase at the end of the lease.  I also
>think you'd have seen more SD80MACS, but no SD70MACs - maybe 50 or so
>a year.  I think you have it right that they would have some AC4400s -
> maybe 25 a year or so, and perhaps some GEVOs.  Perhaps a few trial
>SD90MACs and AC6000's would have been purchased along the way, too.
>
>
>-Don
>
>
>--- In ConrailCorp@yahoogroups.com, "Mark and Austin MacDougall"
><conrail6707@r...> wrote:
>>
>> Here is a modern Conrail roster I've been working on:
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>--
>> 700-759 C40-8W*
>> 760-799 C44-9WAC (AC4400CW) */***
>> 1003-1022 MT-4
>> 1100-1128 MT-6
>> 1600-1699 GP15-1
>> 1900-1902 B23-7
>> 1910-2023 B23-7**
>> 2030-2040 B30-S7R
>> 2800-2816 B23-7
>> 3275-3403 GP40-2**
>> 4020-4022 E8
>> 4100-4128 SD80MAC
>> 4129-4155 SD80MAC***
>> 4156-4183 SD70MAC***
>> 4184-4199 SD70ACe (On Order)***
>> 5000-5059 B36-7**
>> 5060-5089 B40-8
>> 5500-5574 SD60M
>> 5575-5653 SD60I
>> 6000-6021 C39-8
>> 6025-6049 C40-8
>> 6050-6285 C40-8W
>> 6286-6330 C44-9WAC (AC4400CW)***
>> 6331-6355 ES44AC (On Order)***
>> 6358-6524 SD40-2**
>> 6550-6599 C30-7A**
>> 6610-6619 C32-8
>> 6654-6666 SD45-2
>> 6700-6834 SD50
>> 6840-6867 SD60
>> 6925-6959 SD38
>> 6960-6999 SD40-2R
>> 7656-7939 GP38**
>> 8040-8281 GP38-2**
>> 9400-9424 SW1001
>> 9500-9600 SW1500
>> 9606-9620 SW1500
>>
>> Notes:
>> *Painted for Locomotive Management Services (LMSX)
>> **Some units retired
>> *** Post 1998 order
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>--
>>
>> I'm sure not everything is 100% correct, but this is how I think it
>> would be like.
>
>
>
>

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   --- In ConrailCorp@yahoogroups.com, "Kris Klemick"
<conrail6055@y...> wrote:
>
> I figure I'll start stirring things up now; Watch for improvements
to
> the CRCorp website! Your bookmarks will be changing :)
>
> ~Kris

While browsing railpictures.net recently, I came
across this Conrail image:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=76801

Look at the first 2 cars of the train:  Moyer Packing
stock cars.  Based on the time of day, the power and
the location, I'm guessing that the train was either
TV-2 or TV-12.
I remember hearing about these cars once, but can't
remember the specifics.  Does anyone else remember?

Rob



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Shops.

At this time, I'm only including units that were converted into something
else.

I need your help so I don't miss anything.

What I have so far can be seen at
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I just realized I need to add the MT-4's and MT-6's.  Anything else?

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There was a butcher in Harrisburg and also in New Jersey somewhere as I have
seen the green stock cars blow through Blandon.
I do not recall where they originated at.

Lon

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Goodmorning fFriends,

Although I have my favorite I am  not telling you. Be a good citizen and use
this one out of very few democratic rights and make a choice. This is not a
political discussiongroup so do not make your choice known or have any other
comment, all I want you to do is VOTE. It is important for you, your family,
yours freinds, the USA and the world, so get out and do it!!!

Be wise.

Gert



>From: "Kris Klemick" <conrail6055@...>
>Reply-To: ConrailCorp@yahoogroups.com
>To: ConrailCorp@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [ConrailCorp] Changes coming
>Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 21:55:19 -0000
>
>
>I figure I'll start stirring things up now; Watch for improvements to
>the CRCorp website! Your bookmarks will be changing :)
>
>~Kris
>
>
>

Good morning friends,

Isn't it nice to see what discussion is started on this dream, this fiction?
Great job done to make the roster!!
When do we have a final roster and who wants to model things?

Gert

>From: "Don Oltmann" <donoltmann@...>
>Reply-To: ConrailCorp@yahoogroups.com
>To: ConrailCorp@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [ConrailCorp] Re: What If Conrail 2004 Roster
>Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 16:01:35 -0000
>
>
>Conrail was not looking and SD70MACs.  They had little need for them -
>  they were a poor fit for general frt service and were not much
>cheaper than the 80MACs.
>
>--- In ConrailCorp@yahoogroups.com, "Mark and Austin MacDougall"
><conrail6707@r...> wrote:
> >
> > I think Conrail would be an all widenose and AC traction railroad
>by
> > the late 90's, in the Split never happened. I'm guessing that the
> > proposed order of 80MAC's would be the last of the 80's (after
>that,
> > either SD90's, or 70MAC's would be delivered, IMO the odds of
> > 70MAC's would be higher). Of course, we will never know for certain
> > what Conrail would buy next. :(
>
>
>

Hmmmm....Berkowitz in Newark, NJ maybe?  Ick...the "perfume" factory of Oak
Island...lol.

Eric

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Lon Godshall
   To: ConrailCorp@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 11:16 PM
   Subject: Re: [ConrailCorp] Livestock Cars


   There was a butcher in Harrisburg and also in New Jersey somewhere as I have
seen the green stock cars blow through Blandon.
   I do not recall where they originated at.

   Lon

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I'm still working on the final roster. I have been thinking that a
couple N scale KATO AC4400's would look nice in Conrail paint...

--- In ConrailCorp@yahoogroups.com, "Gert Velthuizen"
<gertvelthuizen@h...> wrote:
> Good morning friends,
>
> Isn't it nice to see what discussion is started on this dream, this
fiction?
> Great job done to make the roster!!
> When do we have a final roster and who wants to model things?
>
> Gert
>
> >From: "Don Oltmann" <donoltmann@y...>
> >Reply-To: ConrailCorp@yahoogroups.com
> >To: ConrailCorp@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [ConrailCorp] Re: What If Conrail 2004 Roster
> >Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 16:01:35 -0000
> >
> >
> >Conrail was not looking and SD70MACs.  They had little need for
them -
> >  they were a poor fit for general frt service and were not much
> >cheaper than the 80MACs.
> >
> >--- In ConrailCorp@yahoogroups.com, "Mark and Austin MacDougall"
> ><conrail6707@r...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I think Conrail would be an all widenose and AC traction
railroad
> >by
> > > the late 90's, in the Split never happened. I'm guessing that
the
> > > proposed order of 80MAC's would be the last of the 80's (after
> >that,
> > > either SD90's, or 70MAC's would be delivered, IMO the odds of
> > > 70MAC's would be higher). Of course, we will never know for
certain
> > > what Conrail would buy next. :(
> >
> >
> >

Besides Horseshoe, and The Lehigh Gorge in the early 80's did Conrail have any
other helper districts?  The only other place I can think of is New York, if
that.....

Jeremy

Mark and Austin MacDougall <conrail6707@...> wrote:

I'm still working on the final roster. I have been thinking that a
couple N scale KATO AC4400's would look nice in Conrail paint...

--- In ConrailCorp@yahoogroups.com, "Gert Velthuizen"
<gertvelthuizen@h...> wrote:
> Good morning friends,
>
> Isn't it nice to see what discussion is started on this dream, this
fiction?
> Great job done to make the roster!!
> When do we have a final roster and who wants to model things?
>
> Gert
>
> >From: "Don Oltmann" <donoltmann@y...>
> >Reply-To: ConrailCorp@yahoogroups.com
> >To: ConrailCorp@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [ConrailCorp] Re: What If Conrail 2004 Roster
> >Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 16:01:35 -0000
> >
> >
> >Conrail was not looking and SD70MACs.  They had little need for
them -
> >  they were a poor fit for general frt service and were not much
> >cheaper than the 80MACs.
> >
> >--- In ConrailCorp@yahoogroups.com, "Mark and Austin MacDougall"
> ><conrail6707@r...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I think Conrail would be an all widenose and AC traction
railroad
> >by
> > > the late 90's, in the Split never happened. I'm guessing that
the
> > > proposed order of 80MAC's would be the last of the 80's (after
> >that,
> > > either SD90's, or 70MAC's would be delivered, IMO the odds of
> > > 70MAC's would be higher). Of course, we will never know for
certain
> > > what Conrail would buy next. :(
> >
> >
> >




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Keating Summit on the Buffalo Line, right into NS days...and likely before
bigger power arrived, Washington Hill on the Boston Line.

Most other places Conrail ran, at least since (not where) I've been fanning, are
all flatland territory...they might have struggled....but they didn't need
helpers on a regular basis.

Eric

   Besides Horseshoe, and The Lehigh Gorge in the early 80's did Conrail have any
other helper districts?  The only other place I can think of is New York, if
that.....

   Jeremy

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What about Gulf Summit over Starruca? I know that EL
used helpers up there but am not clear if CR did.

Chris
--- Jeremy Zella <zellajr@...> wrote:

> Besides Horseshoe, and The Lehigh Gorge in the early
> 80's did Conrail have any other helper districts?
> The only other place I can think of is New York, if
> that.....
>
> Jeremy
>
> Mark and Austin MacDougall <conrail6707@...>
> wrote:
>
> I'm still working on the final roster. I have been
> thinking that a
> couple N scale KATO AC4400's would look nice in
> Conrail paint...
>
> --- In ConrailCorp@yahoogroups.com, "Gert
> Velthuizen"
> <gertvelthuizen@h...> wrote:
> > Good morning friends,
> >
> > Isn't it nice to see what discussion is started on
> this dream, this
> fiction?
> > Great job done to make the roster!!
> > When do we have a final roster and who wants to
> model things?
> >
> > Gert
> >
> > >From: "Don Oltmann" <donoltmann@y...>
> > >Reply-To: ConrailCorp@yahoogroups.com
> > >To: ConrailCorp@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: [ConrailCorp] Re: What If Conrail 2004
> Roster
> > >Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 16:01:35 -0000
> > >
> > >
> > >Conrail was not looking and SD70MACs.  They had
> little need for
> them -
> > >  they were a poor fit for general frt service
> and were not much
> > >cheaper than the 80MACs.
> > >
> > >--- In ConrailCorp@yahoogroups.com, "Mark and
> Austin MacDougall"
> > ><conrail6707@r...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I think Conrail would be an all widenose and
> AC traction
> railroad
> > >by
> > > > the late 90's, in the Split never happened.
> I'm guessing that
> the
> > > > proposed order of 80MAC's would be the last of
> the 80's (after
> > >that,
> > > > either SD90's, or 70MAC's would be delivered,
> IMO the odds of
> > > > 70MAC's would be higher). Of course, we will
> never know for
> certain
> > > > what Conrail would buy next. :(
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
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Great job on the roster - at some point I will project my CR roster
forward and will use this as a guide. I am avoiding purchasing the SD
70's as they had specs for the "other" railroads. One thing I wonder is
if CR would have continued the white mask scheme and if so, only for the
AC's or would they started using it on new and repaint DC units. Would
we have seen a white mask on a rebuilt dash 8W? I wish we could still
find out.

Mike


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It sure would be an interesting venture...hell, I want to know what it would
have looked like on a standard cab unit?!  The extra white really added a nice
design and opened more color to the otherwise blue engines.  I certainly liked
blue more than black...and still do, even if I never worked for Conrail.

After seeing NS' answer to a revised paint scheme these past 2 year, I get
disgusted each time I look at it.  The extra white added some neat lines & rare
color to the otherwise monotonous paint scheme.  Someone higher up allegedly got
upset about "raccoon" comments to the paint scheme, that same being must have an
affinity for horses/donkeys, or something.

The least they could have done was match the lateral nose stripes parallel with
the design of the nose..giving a chevron-like appearence.

Eric

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   Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 8:17 PM
   Subject: [ConrailCorp] What If Conrail 2004 Roster


   Great job on the roster - at some point I will project my CR roster
   forward and will use this as a guide. I am avoiding purchasing the SD
   70's as they had specs for the "other" railroads. One thing I wonder is
   if CR would have continued the white mask scheme and if so, only for the
   AC's or would they started using it on new and repaint DC units. Would
   we have seen a white mask on a rebuilt dash 8W? I wish we could still
   find out.

   Mike


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I'd hope for more C40-8W's painted at JBS and not GE!!! I'd also like
to see more EMD SD's. I tell ya what I'd like to know or rather just
have someone talk about. Wouldn't it be neat to meet the person that
came up with the idea of the white mask scheme for the MAC's?
Hmmmm.... that could be an interesting angle to investigate CRHS
wise :)

~Kris

Hi everyone,

Just thought I would post a for-sale ad here since I haven't done so
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will get back to you.  Most of my collection is Athearn 'blue box'
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are custom painted, factory painted, and or renumbered.  Some have
lots of details, some are still pretty much assembled only with
factory parts.  Also have Atlas, Kato and Proto2000 locomotives as
well (an SD50, B40-8, SD40-2E rebuild, 3 E8's, etc)  Had an
interested purchaser who I have not heard from in months who
purchased all of my P2K/Atlas/Kato power, so I have decided to resell
it all.  If you have any interested please contact me and I can get
you the details on specific locomotives you might be interested in.
Also have lots of freight for sale.  Very reasonable prices!  Thanks!!

-Scott, Philly PA

Scott,

Could I get a list of the freight cars available?

Thanks,

Mike


On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 06:16:07 -0000, jarentzen <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Just thought I would post a for-sale ad here since I haven't done so
> in a while.  I still have a quite a bit of stuff left to sell.  If
> anyone is interested, please let me know.  You can email me at my
> Hotmail address (Scott1643 at hotmail.com) or just reply here and I
> will get back to you.  Most of my collection is Athearn 'blue box'
> locomotives ranging from SD40-2's to GP38's/GP38-2's/GP40-2's to
> SW1500's.  Have a mix of dummy and powered locos, in various paint
> schemes (standard can opener, Quality, and Operation Lifesaver)  many
> are custom painted, factory painted, and or renumbered.  Some have
> lots of details, some are still pretty much assembled only with
> factory parts.  Also have Atlas, Kato and Proto2000 locomotives as
> well (an SD50, B40-8, SD40-2E rebuild, 3 E8's, etc)  Had an
> interested purchaser who I have not heard from in months who
> purchased all of my P2K/Atlas/Kato power, so I have decided to resell
> it all.  If you have any interested please contact me and I can get
> you the details on specific locomotives you might be interested in.
> Also have lots of freight for sale.  Very reasonable prices!  Thanks!!
>
> -Scott, Philly PA
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

I think that Conrail would have kept the "Lone Ranger" scheme for its AC units
only.  But a friend of mine who used to work for Conrail and now for NS told me
that the only reason the 80MACs got that scheme was so that employees could
differentiate them from the SD60M's and I's so its a question that will never be
answered only pondered.  I wonder if they got the AC44's I bet they would have
come in that scheme too only to set themselves aside from the 840CW's.  But tell
me this who could mistake an 80MAC for a 60M or I?  A pair when passing you is
160'!!!  How can you miss that going by?  Happy railfanning!

Jeremy

Kris Klemick <conrail6055@...> wrote:

I'd hope for more C40-8W's painted at JBS and not GE!!! I'd also like
to see more EMD SD's. I tell ya what I'd like to know or rather just
have someone talk about. Wouldn't it be neat to meet the person that
came up with the idea of the white mask scheme for the MAC's?
Hmmmm.... that could be an interesting angle to investigate CRHS
wise :)

~Kris




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Do you happen to have the Philly Div set?  It was a GP38(-2) and an SW 1001(1000
or 1500)?

Jeremy

jarentzen <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hi everyone,

Just thought I would post a for-sale ad here since I haven't done so
in a while.  I still have a quite a bit of stuff left to sell.  If
anyone is interested, please let me know.  You can email me at my
Hotmail address (Scott1643 at hotmail.com) or just reply here and I
will get back to you.  Most of my collection is Athearn 'blue box'
locomotives ranging from SD40-2's to GP38's/GP38-2's/GP40-2's to
SW1500's.  Have a mix of dummy and powered locos, in various paint
schemes (standard can opener, Quality, and Operation Lifesaver)  many
are custom painted, factory painted, and or renumbered.  Some have
lots of details, some are still pretty much assembled only with
factory parts.  Also have Atlas, Kato and Proto2000 locomotives as
well (an SD50, B40-8, SD40-2E rebuild, 3 E8's, etc)  Had an
interested purchaser who I have not heard from in months who
purchased all of my P2K/Atlas/Kato power, so I have decided to resell
it all.  If you have any interested please contact me and I can get
you the details on specific locomotives you might be interested in.
Also have lots of freight for sale.  Very reasonable prices!  Thanks!!

-Scott, Philly PA




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I wouldnt mind seeing what a pair or triplet of AC44's or AC60's would look like
in the Lone Ranger scheme.........

Kris Klemick <conrail6055@...> wrote:
I'd hope for more C40-8W's painted at JBS and not GE!!! I'd also like
to see more EMD SD's. I tell ya what I'd like to know or rather just
have someone talk about. Wouldn't it be neat to meet the person that
came up with the idea of the white mask scheme for the MAC's?
Hmmmm.... that could be an interesting angle to investigate CRHS
wise :)

~Kris




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Hi Mike,

  I'm thinking of making a trip out there and doing some measuring pretty soon;
thanks for the offer to help. I've seen several places like you mentioned, with
the ouside track left in around curves, in particular in Bolivar and Tyrone, PA
and between Alliance, OH and Homewood, PA.

Ian

Hi Rob,

  Thanks for the PRR "6 foot" hint. That will give a an idea of what it was in
its original state, and then maybe I'll go from there.

Ian

Moyer was the last re-incarnation of the old Cross Packing co. in North
Philadelphia, PA.( located near where Juniata Term is today.)  There was
also an active stockyard in Newark, NJ (until the mid 70's) where the new
NJT Airport station is today.  The cars pictured coming off of Rockville
were heading to Philadelphia.  I have a photo of a Cross Bros. car that I
can send out this weekend to anyone who might be interested in seeing it.
Please contact me off-list if you would like a copy of the scan.

Kermit Geary, Jr
SRS823

Talk to Bob Yurvatti (?) in the Allentown area...he used to freelance draw stuff
that came to mind.  His windshield visor is a "what if" Conrail AC44 / 60 in the
whiteface scheme.  I imagine he still has it...

Eric

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Jeremy Zella
   To: ConrailCorp@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 2:31 AM
   Subject: Re: [ConrailCorp] Re: What If Conrail 2004 Roster


   I wouldnt mind seeing what a pair or triplet of AC44's or AC60's would look
like in the Lone Ranger scheme.........

   Kris Klemick <conrail6055@...> wrote:
   I'd hope for more C40-8W's painted at JBS and not GE!!! I'd also like
   to see more EMD SD's. I tell ya what I'd like to know or rather just
   have someone talk about. Wouldn't it be neat to meet the person that
   came up with the idea of the white mask scheme for the MAC's?
   Hmmmm.... that could be an interesting angle to investigate CRHS
   wise :)

   ~Kris




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Dear Jeremy,

Did I miss something? Was I concentrationwise just a moment somewhere else?
Lone Ranger scheme??? Please help out.

Gert

>From: Jeremy Zella <zellajr@...>
>Reply-To: ConrailCorp@yahoogroups.com
>To: ConrailCorp@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [ConrailCorp] Re: What If Conrail 2004 Roster
>Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 23:31:38 -0800 (PST)
>
>I wouldnt mind seeing what a pair or triplet of AC44's or AC60's would look
>like in the Lone Ranger scheme.........
>
>Kris Klemick <conrail6055@...> wrote:
>I'd hope for more C40-8W's painted at JBS and not GE!!! I'd also like
>to see more EMD SD's. I tell ya what I'd like to know or rather just
>have someone talk about. Wouldn't it be neat to meet the person that
>came up with the idea of the white mask scheme for the MAC's?
>Hmmmm.... that could be an interesting angle to investigate CRHS
>wise :)
>
>~Kris
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