I am growing salix alba, salix alba x lambertina, augustifa, purpurea, and black maul. I thought the black maul died, but it came back. I also have some weeping willow starts, and A LOT of corkscrew willows.
You are right on about the soil ammendments. They are growing in rocky clay that is water-logged in the winter and turns bone dry by August. Once the soil begins to dry, any rain we get seems to just flow over, not seep in to the soil.
I think I will have better luck with the Poncirus Trifoliata if I grow them in pots. We had some a few years ago but gave them all away.
Neil,
I doubt that your willows need fertiliser. They tend to thrive on
poor soils, but perhaps a little enrichment with rotted manure
wouldn't do any harm. Willows don't like shade - could that be the
problem? Here in the UK, although the main growing season is over,
the good weather is giving us a 'September burst', which we don't
always get on our willows.
Perhaps it has just been a poor year for growth in your area. What
species/clone are you growing?
H
--- In Coppicecraft@yahoogroups.com, Neil <weavewizard@y...> wrote:
>
>
> thought I'd mention...
>
> We tried a minor experiment with sericulture...to feed the
silkworms to our chameleons. They began to die after the second
day. I later realised my partner had sprayed fly spray in the
kitchen...Oy! We'll try it again someday.
>
> We have had plenty of rain here in Arkansas USA, but my willows
are SLOW growing this year. I am not sure why. Maybe they need
some fertilizer. My Poncirus Trifoliata all "disappeared." I'm not
sure where they went. And I accidently mowed over my osage orange
starts. Not a very productive year for my experiments....hmmm.
>
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We tried a minor experiment with sericulture...to feed the silkworms to our chameleons. They began to die after the second day. I later realised my partner had sprayed fly spray in the kitchen...Oy! We'll try it again someday.
We have had plenty of rain here in Arkansas USA, but my willows are SLOW growing this year. I am not sure why. Maybe they need some fertilizer. My Poncirus Trifoliata all "disappeared." I'm not sure where they went. And I accidently mowed over my osage orange starts. Not a very productive year for my experiments....hmmm.
growing conditions in Pakistan are good 10 ft is max hieght on average it is 6-7 feet.It is used as firewood and making baskets no use as charcoal to my knowledge
Masood Khalid
hcr_ii <hcr_ii@...> wrote:
3-4 years is quick for 10ft poles - must be good growing conditions you have. Is it any use for charcoal as well as baskets?
H
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3-4 years is quick for 10ft poles - must be good growing conditions
you have. Is it any use for charcoal as well as baskets?
H
--- In Coppicecraft@yahoogroups.com, Khalid Masood <masoodkhd@y...>
wrote:
> Dear hcr_ii,
>
> mulberry is not good for other wildlife because trees
> are better than coppices when the wildlife is
> concerned.3-4 years rotation is used for the coppices
> to grow about 10 ft hieght then it is auctioned.
>
> Masood Khalid
> Sericulture Development Officer
> Punjab Forest Dept Lahore
> Pakistan
> --- hcr_ii <hcr_ii@y...> wrote:
> > Masood,
> >
> > Welcome to the group. It is interesting to hear of
> > coppice work from
> > your part of the world. What length of rotation to
> > you use for
> > basket material?
> >
> > I don't really know anything about Mulberry or
> > silkworms - is the
> > mulberry good for other wildlife?
> >
> > H
> >
> > --- In Coppicecraft@yahoogroups.com, Khalid Masood
> > <masoodkhd@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > Dear All,
> > > I am new member of the group,i am a Sericulture
> > > Development Officer in Pakistan and we use
> > coppices of
> > > Mulburry to rear silkworms and to make baskets.
> > > Masood Khalid
> > > Sericulture development Officer
> > > Punjab Forest Department
> > > Pakistan
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Dear hcr_ii,
mulberry is not good for other wildlife because trees
are better than coppices when the wildlife is
concerned.3-4 years rotation is used for the coppices
to grow about 10 ft hieght then it is auctioned.
Masood Khalid
Sericulture Development Officer
Punjab Forest Dept Lahore
Pakistan
--- hcr_ii <hcr_ii@...> wrote:
> Masood,
>
> Welcome to the group. It is interesting to hear of
> coppice work from
> your part of the world. What length of rotation to
> you use for
> basket material?
>
> I don't really know anything about Mulberry or
> silkworms - is the
> mulberry good for other wildlife?
>
> H
>
> --- In Coppicecraft@yahoogroups.com, Khalid Masood
> <masoodkhd@y...>
> wrote:
> > Dear All,
> > I am new member of the group,i am a Sericulture
> > Development Officer in Pakistan and we use
> coppices of
> > Mulburry to rear silkworms and to make baskets.
> > Masood Khalid
> > Sericulture development Officer
> > Punjab Forest Department
> > Pakistan
> >
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Masood,
Welcome to the group. It is interesting to hear of coppice work from
your part of the world. What length of rotation to you use for
basket material?
I don't really know anything about Mulberry or silkworms - is the
mulberry good for other wildlife?
H
--- In Coppicecraft@yahoogroups.com, Khalid Masood <masoodkhd@y...>
wrote:
> Dear All,
> I am new member of the group,i am a Sericulture
> Development Officer in Pakistan and we use coppices of
> Mulburry to rear silkworms and to make baskets.
> Masood Khalid
> Sericulture development Officer
> Punjab Forest Department
> Pakistan
>
> __________________________________
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Dear All,
I am new member of the group,i am a Sericulture
Development Officer in Pakistan and we use coppices of
Mulburry to rear silkworms and to make baskets.
Masood Khalid
Sericulture development Officer
Punjab Forest Department
Pakistan
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In mid-late November I will be holding a public charcoal burn. It is
an opportunity for anyone interested to find out first hand how it
all works.
Please spread the word and post here if you are interested. I will
post more details when it is all finalised.
H
I live in Winchester,very close to Crabwood and Farley Mount country park,maybe
you know of it?
It would be excellent to gain some more woodland skills.I just need the chance
;) All the better if it turned into a job :)
Andy... ....
>Dear Andy
>Where are you based? We can't offer jobs (not often anyway) but we've
>always got a need for volunteers to plant and maintain trees and to >teach
skills.some of our volunteers go on to paid employment in the
>sector:
>just last month one of them got a job working on wildlife corridor
>planting Hampshire.
>Kay
>International Tree Foundation
>Tie Dad to a tree this year!
>Free necktie with Father's Day tree planted in our Family Tree Scheme.
>www.internationaltreefoundation.org
> Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 00:34:38 -0000
> From: "Andy" <earthforce_uk@...>
> Subject: Traditional crafts.... .....
>
> My interest in coppice comes from the crafts side of things,i have no
woodland management skills,only carpentry :) I've always been facinated by
all the products that can be made from traditional coppice in England.
> I've been making greenwood chairs for a while now,just to know in myself
that i can ;),its a hobby. Im amazed at the skills involved.
>
> I'd love to work in the woods/forestry,i spose its a kind of dream job for
me.An area i'd like to be involved with.
>
> Andy.. ..
>
Dear Andy
Where are you based? We can't offer jobs (not often anyway) but we've
always got a need for volunteers to plant and maintain trees and to teach
skills ... some of our volunteers go on to paid employment in the sector:
just last month one of them got a job working on wildlife corridor planting
Hampshire.
Kay
International Tree Foundation
Tie Dad to a tree this year!
Free necktie with Father's Day tree planted in our Family Tree Scheme.
www.internationaltreefoundation.org or 01342 712536 for details.
My interest in coppice comes from the crafts side of things,i have no woodland
management skills,only carpentry :) I've always been facinated by all the
products that can be made from traditional coppice in England.
I've been making greenwood chairs for a while now,just to know in myself that i
can ;),its a hobby. Im amazed at the skills involved.
I'd love to work in the woods/forestry,i spose its a kind of dream job for me.An
area i'd like to be involved with.
Andy.. ..
I started 30 new cork-screw willows, and got 15 salix purpurea from Bonnie Gale in NY.
One problem I've encountered is when the willows cuttings are available from the north, it's already starting to dry up here in the south of the U.S. I mulched with newspapers, which didn't work well...the checkens have completely shredded them and they've blown all around the yard...oh well...they'll decompose.
I've also transplanted 23 peach seedlings. three have found permanent homes...the rest have just been heeled in.
enjoy the last of spring...
Neil, in the Ouachita Mountains of Arkansas
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Hi Andy,
Welcome to the group. It is usually pretty quiet here, but feel free
to liven things up a bit!
Are you involved in woodland management yourself or is it more of an
interest?
H
--- In Coppicecraft@yahoogroups.com, "Andy" <earthforce_uk@y...>
wrote:
> I just joined this group and wanted to say hi to all of you :)
> My name is Andy and i live in Winchester.
Thank goodness for the rain. On Good Friday we lost about an acre of
birch woodland to a fire. It was maliciously started.
I have about 200 grey and eared willow cuttings sprouting away that
were about to expire, but hopefully yesterday's rain will keep them
alive for a while.
The 250 bare root willow, hazel and oak I put in are not looking so
good though. Tha hazel seems to have survived the best, the willow
the worst.
I am not too disappointed with the willow though, because what was
sold as Salix cinerea (grey willow) is most definitely not. Darn
nurseries don't even know their own stock.
H
Kay,
Thanks very much for the information. Expect the completed form soon.
Regards,
H
--- In Coppicecraft@yahoogroups.com, "Kay Sexton" <kay@c...> wrote:
> >> Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 12:46:20 -0000
> > From: "hcr_ii" <hcr_ii@y...>
> > Subject: Re: Coppicers - woodland visits on 12 April
> >
> > I am very interested in the Family Tree Scheme. Are you involved
in
> > this?
> >
> > I think it could work quite well at my site as I get quite a few
> > requests for tree planting and at the moment just let people do
it
> > and ask them to donate to a charity of their choice. I would feel
> > better knowing that it was going back into woodland conservation.
> >
> > H
> >
> Dear H
>
> Yes, we run the Family Tree Scheme and we are looking for woodland
sites at
> present. I'll come back to you by email on the details!
>
> Regards
>
> Kay
>> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 12:46:20 -0000
> From: "hcr_ii" <hcr_ii@...>
> Subject: Re: Coppicers - woodland visits on 12 April
>
> I am very interested in the Family Tree Scheme. Are you involved in
> this?
>
> I think it could work quite well at my site as I get quite a few
> requests for tree planting and at the moment just let people do it
> and ask them to donate to a charity of their choice. I would feel
> better knowing that it was going back into woodland conservation.
>
> H
>
Dear H
Yes, we run the Family Tree Scheme and we are looking for woodland sites at
present. I'll come back to you by email on the details!
Regards
Kay
I am very interested in the Family Tree Scheme. Are you involved in
this?
I think it could work quite well at my site as I get quite a few
requests for tree planting and at the moment just let people do it
and ask them to donate to a charity of their choice. I would feel
better knowing that it was going back into woodland conservation.
H
--- In Coppicecraft@yahoogroups.com, "Kay Sexton" <kay@c...> wrote:
> International Tree Foundation branches invite you to join them for
the following 12 April activities:
>
> Devon Branch - Visit to Offwell Nature Reserve, near Honiton.
> Hampshire Branch - visit to Netley Common (nr Southampton) with
Eastleigh Local History Society. the common comprises 40 acres of
open heathland with a mixed woodland fringe and has much of interest
in its range of historical associations and abundant wildlife.
>
> Surrey Branch - Illustrated talk & tour of the seed bank,
Wakehurst Place, Ardingly. Bring a picnic.
>
> Oxfordshire Branch - Chewton Wood, Nr Wells, Somerset, guided walk
with bluebells. Contact Andrew Hawkins 01491 576 929
>
> For more information on any visit, or to contact an ITF Branch,
please visit the website at www.internationaltreefoundation.org or
telephone 01342 712536
International Tree Foundation branches invite you to join them for the following 12 April activities:
Devon Branch - Visit to Offwell Nature Reserve, near Honiton.
Hampshire Branch - visit to Netley Common (nr Southampton) with Eastleigh Local History Society. the common comprises 40 acres of open heathland with a mixed woodland fringe and has much of interest in its range of historical associations and abundant wildlife.
Surrey Branch - Illustrated talk & tour of the seed bank, Wakehurst Place, Ardingly. Bring a picnic.
Oxfordshire Branch - Chewton Wood, Nr Wells, Somerset, guided walk with bluebells. Contact Andrew Hawkins 01491 576 929
For more information on any visit, or to contact an ITF Branch, please visit the website at www.internationaltreefoundation.org or telephone 01342 712536
I know that there isn't exactly a huge membership here, but just on
the off chance, does anyone know of any suppliers of short rotation
coppice material in Ireland? Willow or poplar - someone asked me and
I said I would try to find out.
H
This morning I went to look around some Italian alder I coppiced
last year. This stuff is superb. It is growing in a waterlogged site
which is exposed to all weathers at a height of roughly 700 feet.
Some of the shoots are 6 feet high.
H
As long as there are houses there will be a need for tree
surgeons/aboriculturalists. In the UK it is quite good money too
(not to mention very satisfying). I have only done a little tree
climbing but really enjoyed it. It also means an almost unlimited
supply of free firewood/charcoal wood.
Consultancy work is becoming more popular too - mortgage companies
will always ask the opinions of a tree expert if there are trees
near a property they have been asked to lend money for.
I would say go for it - any kind of tree work is deeply satisfying
and rewarding.
H
--- In Coppicecraft@yahoogroups.com, "Diana <rare_breeds@h...>"
<rare_breeds@h...> wrote:
> Hi;
> I am in western Canada. Our local college has a course on urban
tree
> care. Would like some opinion on whether or not this would be a
good
> area to develop.There are no tree services in this area that I
know
> of.
Hi;
I am in western Canada. Our local college has a course on urban tree
care. Would like some opinion on whether or not this would be a good
area to develop.There are no tree services in this area that I know
of.
Yeah, it is a little quiet in here. Never mind. Like you say, anyone
working with trees expect slow but steady progress.
I have a grey willow (Salix cinerea) in my gargen wich I had to cut
down last year. It threw up a great crop of new shoots, and one of
them is about 8 feet high. Usually browsing (rabbits and hares) is a
problem here, but I guess the smell of my dogs keeps them out of the
garden to some degree.
H
--- In Coppicecraft@yahoogroups.com, "NEIL <weavewizard@y...>"
<weavewizard@y...> wrote:
> Greetings everyone
> This is a very quiet group. I suppose that woodland
management,
> coppice...aren't the most exciting fields of endeavor. when you
> prune a tree, it takes a long time to see new growth...so we
aren't
> very *chatty*.
> As for me, I have an osage orange tree in my yard as a
landscape
> plant. My partner started contorting it a few years ago, and now
it
> looks like it is weeping. WE staked the tips of branches down to
the
> ground and cut off the vertical suckers. It doesn't make a whole
lot
> of fruit the year after pruning. The branches have wound their
way
> into my dyepot, and hopefully will make a good color.
> I have planted the osage fruit in a row around my garden hoping
it
> will be a hedge...fence...soon. On the otherside of the garden I
> have the ponciris trifoliata (hardy orange) planted.
> All this summer my son and I built a cabin out of rather small
sweet
> gum trees, and cob. The cabin has six walls so as to take
advantage
> of building a large room with short logs. Lately, between weaving
> and dyeing, I've been cleaning up the woods between the house and
> cabin. someone years ago made a mess of the woods With a
bulldozer,
> so it will take awhile to clean up. neil
Greetings everyone
This is a very quiet group. I suppose that woodland management,
coppice...aren't the most exciting fields of endeavor. when you
prune a tree, it takes a long time to see new growth...so we aren't
very *chatty*.
As for me, I have an osage orange tree in my yard as a landscape
plant. My partner started contorting it a few years ago, and now it
looks like it is weeping. WE staked the tips of branches down to the
ground and cut off the vertical suckers. It doesn't make a whole lot
of fruit the year after pruning. The branches have wound their way
into my dyepot, and hopefully will make a good color.
I have planted the osage fruit in a row around my garden hoping it
will be a hedge...fence...soon. On the otherside of the garden I
have the ponciris trifoliata (hardy orange) planted.
All this summer my son and I built a cabin out of rather small sweet
gum trees, and cob. The cabin has six walls so as to take advantage
of building a large room with short logs. Lately, between weaving
and dyeing, I've been cleaning up the woods between the house and
cabin. someone years ago made a mess of the woods With a bulldozer,
so it will take awhile to clean up. neil
Try number one using larch yielded a good quantity of ash and little
else.
This may well be because of an unnoticed air-gap at the base of the
kiln, so I shall try again and post the results.
H
...if there was anyone anywhere who had successfully produced
charcoal from softwood (particularly spruce) in a ring kiln. I have
tried it once without success but I am sure it can be done.
H
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