Hi Clarke, I am requesting for the PPTs...Murali...
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Clarence Maday
cjmaday
Feb 1, 2011 12:09 pm
... From: "Clarke Ching" <clarke.ching@...> To: <CriticalChain@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 2:33 AM Subject: Re: [CriticalChain]...
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Clarence Maday
cjmaday
Feb 1, 2011 12:10 pm
... From: Muralidharan Thothathiri To: CriticalChain@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 5:21 AM Subject: Re: [CriticalChain] Steve Holt -...
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Clarence Maday
cjmaday
Feb 1, 2011 12:12 pm
... From: "Anthony Rizzo" <Tony.Rizzo@...> To: <CriticalChain@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [CriticalChain]...
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Rob Newbold
robertnewbold
Feb 1, 2011 2:28 pm
Steve, Clare - This relates to a couple of concerns I've had for some time about inherent simplicity. One is that people will assume, because the solution...
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Mike Bowles
mikeorjim2003
Feb 1, 2011 2:31 pm
Clare I think this brief exchange shows the importance of discussion in the learning process. I personally would like to hear examples of organisations, given...
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Mike Bowles
mikeorjim2003
Feb 1, 2011 3:21 pm
Oopps I missed the not out! Clare I think this brief exchange shows the importance of discussion in the learning process. I personally would like to hear...
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Clarence Maday
cjmaday
Feb 1, 2011 4:01 pm
Jim, I'm with you all the way on examples of reality. Meaningful measurements. That's why I like Boyd's work. He walks the walk. Minimum or no talk. As I...
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Clarence Maday
cjmaday
Feb 1, 2011 7:02 pm
Rob, I agree with you in the first paragraph. Maybe Steve can handle your second paragraph. We are bombarded with catch phrases; compassionate conservatism,...
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Clarke Ching
clarkeching
Feb 1, 2011 7:05 pm
... Show me! Rumour around here has it that it's a pyramid scheme. They're pretty simple but they don't seem so until after the fact - when they've crumbled. ...
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Mike Bowles
mikeorjim2003
Feb 1, 2011 7:57 pm
Hi Clarke Steve covered it in his presentation! Potentially they have a chaotic situation - if so the advice is - "Don't go there." But it also means that they...
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Naishadh Shah
shahnaishadh
Feb 2, 2011 12:40 pm
From a Manufacturing Plant Owner's view-point, the Cost Efficiency is directly linked with time (Earlier the Completion, its better). From a Major ...
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Naishadh Shah
shahnaishadh
Feb 2, 2011 12:51 pm
It is good if it could be done in piecemeal, like it is possible in many infrastructure Projects. Mostly it is not possible to Split in Case of Manufacturing...
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lawrence_leach
Feb 3, 2011 6:04 am
Hi, Clarence You point still applies, but man projects are not performed to generate revenue. They all have some type of goal. Most get more goal by getting...
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Steve Holt
s_k_holt
Feb 3, 2011 7:30 am
One of my favorite topics and I¹m having to catch up on the conversations! Agree with you both on the first part‹Very often successful solutions to Complex...
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Rob Newbold
robertnewbold
Feb 3, 2011 4:32 pm
Steve - The area where this resonates most with me is how we learn a subject area. Typically, we start with some basic rules; internalize those; and expand our...
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lawrence_leach
Feb 4, 2011 1:08 am
Hi, Rob I suspect Snowden can offer some good ideas on how to approach that. I believe I read or heard him make the point that the "boundaries" are very fuzzy....
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lawrence_leach
Feb 4, 2011 1:11 am
Hi, Rob There is some pretty good science describing what you suggest in your first paragraph. I don't know who gets the credit for the term, but Kahneman and...
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Steve Holt
s_k_holt
Feb 4, 2011 6:16 am
That fuzziness of boundaries is one of the reasons that the Framework is drawn with non-straight lines and no outer boundaries‹to make it very clear that it...
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lawrence_leach
Feb 4, 2011 8:14 pm
Hi, Steve Sticking with the weather analogy a tornado might be an example of the chaos transition. It might be worth observing that a tornado is quite ordered...
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Rob Newbold
robertnewbold
Feb 4, 2011 9:19 pm
Steve - I'm not trying to be obnoxious (no, really), but ... the fact that domains have fuzzy boundaries doesn't mean you can't define, at least to some...
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Steve Holt
s_k_holt
Feb 5, 2011 6:05 am
I understand you’re not being obnoxious, Rob. I was going to try to respond more fully last night but it’s been a busy week. OK, domains. Try this: The...
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Steve Holt
s_k_holt
Feb 5, 2011 9:00 am
I think that¹s a good example, Larry. Looked at very locally a tornado is understandable, it is a circular funnel of wind with a pressure difference between...
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Mike Bowles
mikeorjim2003
Feb 5, 2011 12:29 pm
Hi Steve I read Larry's post about tornados on the day that my 3.5 year old grandson visited us - it made me reflect on those experiences. Having been married...
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Clarke Ching
clarkeching
Feb 5, 2011 1:00 pm
Fantatic, Jim! ... Clarke Ching - * Over 14,000 people have read "Rocks Into Gold" ... my biztech parable about Agile ... that never mentions Agile. Read it...
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Rob Newbold
robertnewbold
Feb 5, 2011 6:20 pm
Steve - Thanks, I think it helps. If a domain is defined in relationship to our ability to determine how to know what to do, that implies objectives (what do...
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Steve Holt
s_k_holt
Feb 5, 2011 6:22 pm
I’m now going to put myself in the position of disagreeing with my own note. I woke up this morning realizing I’d made a bad example by saying that coming...
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Steve Holt
s_k_holt
Feb 5, 2011 6:29 pm
Good example, Jim. I like the example of the house as a stable system. The rules are well established, known to all, there¹s a place for everything, routines...
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Mike Bowles
mikeorjim2003
Feb 5, 2011 8:11 pm
Steve said: See embedded comments - they might surprise you. "For example, letting him sleep in the room with the models and tools is an experiment, [No...
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Robert Roy
prosyncinc
Feb 5, 2011 10:40 pm
Hello Steve, Rob I am following your discussion with interest and I hope that you will allow me to add a few ideas about Cynefin. The short technical answer to...
