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#3044

From: Fleetwood Rock <gstone770@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:03 am
Subject: Re: DDOT Paratransit Service - What's the Deal???

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From: H.B.Craig-II <hbcraig2@...>
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Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 6:02:34 PM
Subject: Re: [DSR-2-DOT] DDOT Paratransit Service - What's the Deal???

Here's an update on the MetroLift/D- DOT/DM1 para-transit issue. According to the following excerpt from today's Detroit Free Press, in an article titled "Disabled riders to Bing: Undo switch in transit service," it looks like the matter is headed to the courts. Here's from www.Freep.com....

People with disabilities and senior citizens called on Detroit leaders Wednesday to reverse an apparent decision to switch providers of specialized MetroLift rides that serve those who have trouble using regular buses.

The city announced earlier this month that Veolia Transportation would no longer be a provider of paratransit services. Officials said Veolia terminated its contract with the city Nov. 6.

But Veolia officials said Wednesday that the city stopped making payments in February, started contracting with other companies and has refused to discuss the issue. Veolia has provided paratransit services for the Detroit Department of Transportation since 1999 and was contracted through 2011.

Veolia has sued the city in U.S. District Court in Detroit, seeking nearly $10 million for breach of contract.

At a news conference Wednesday, representatives from Veolia and groups including the Council of Baptist Pastors of Detroit & Vicinity and the RainbowPUSH Coalition urged Mayor Dave Bing to reverse DDOT's decision on Veolia.

"We're hoping Mayor Bing will call a meeting, bring the parties together and try to resolve it," said Isaac Robinson, political director for the Michigan Teamsters Joint Council No. 43, which represents Veolia drivers.

Bing's office released a statement saying the city will continue to provide paratransit service but not commenting on Veolia's allegations.

Robinson said 125 unionized drivers will lose their jobs if the city stands by its decision, and the people they served worry that the new contractors aren't providing service that meets Americans with Disabilities Act mandates.

You can read the entire Freep article by visiting the following web-page:
http://www.freep. com/article/ 20091119/ NEWS01/911190465 /1322/Disabled- riders-to- Bing-Undo- switch-in- transit-service

Meanwhile, a similar story, titled "Detroit group seeks para-transit firm's return," ran in The Detroit News. Here's an excerpt from that article....

Detroit --A minister, disabled passengers and bus drivers called for Mayor Dave Bing to pay Veolia Transportation so that the company can return as a para-transit provider.

The Rev. David Bullock, chair of the issues committee for the Council of Baptist Pastors, said Veolia has a contract with the city through 2011, but the Detroit Department of Transportation stopped paying in February. He led a group of about 25 people in chants of "Protect our seniors" and "Keep the money in Detroit" on Wednesday outside of the Michigan Rehabilitation Institute on John R near Mack on the city's east side.

"This issue must be solved today," Bullock said. "While politicians are talking about litigation, people are losing their jobs, and while people are talking about 'it's in process,' people are getting into Checker Cabs and not getting the service that's required. We need resolution today."

Earlier this month, the city announced ATC/Vancom Inc. recently operating as Veolia Transportation, will no longer provide Detroit Metro Lift para-transit service to about 1,200 customers.

But disabled transit advocates said they were pleased with Veolia Transportation as its service provider, and the other vendors are not giving adequate service.

The Rev. Robert Smith, who is blind, told fellow pastors at the Council of Baptist Pastors meeting Tuesday that he has filed 22 complaints with DDOT and was dropped off at the wrong location by a cab.

Smith is a member of Northwest Community Baptist Church. During public discussions at the Rose Park Transit Center on Tuesday, blind and disabled residents who use wheelchairs called on DDOT to resolve their issues with Veolia to stay in compliance with the Americans with Disabilities Act and provide safe and reliable para-transit service.

Disabled and elderly passengers have expressed numerous complaints about the five independent contractors DDOT is using.

The complete www.Detnews. com article can be found at:
http://www.detnews. com/article/ 20091118/ METRO/911180420/ 1361/Group- seeks-return- of-para-transit- company-in- Detroit

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#3043

From: "H.B.Craig-II" <hbcraig2@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:02 pm
Subject: Re: DDOT Paratransit Service - What's the Deal???

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Here's an update on the MetroLift/D-DOT/DM1 para-transit issue. According to the following excerpt from today's Detroit Free Press, in an article titled "Disabled riders to Bing: Undo switch in transit service," it looks like the matter is headed to the courts. Here's from www.Freep.com....

People with disabilities and senior citizens called on Detroit leaders Wednesday to reverse an apparent decision to switch providers of specialized MetroLift rides that serve those who have trouble using regular buses.

The city announced earlier this month that Veolia Transportation would no longer be a provider of paratransit services. Officials said Veolia terminated its contract with the city Nov. 6.

But Veolia officials said Wednesday that the city stopped making payments in February, started contracting with other companies and has refused to discuss the issue. Veolia has provided paratransit services for the Detroit Department of Transportation since 1999 and was contracted through 2011.

Veolia has sued the city in U.S. District Court in Detroit, seeking nearly $10 million for breach of contract.

At a news conference Wednesday, representatives from Veolia and groups including the Council of Baptist Pastors of Detroit & Vicinity and the RainbowPUSH Coalition urged Mayor Dave Bing to reverse DDOT's decision on Veolia.

"We're hoping Mayor Bing will call a meeting, bring the parties together and try to resolve it," said Isaac Robinson, political director for the Michigan Teamsters Joint Council No. 43, which represents Veolia drivers.

Bing's office released a statement saying the city will continue to provide paratransit service but not commenting on Veolia's allegations.

Robinson said 125 unionized drivers will lose their jobs if the city stands by its decision, and the people they served worry that the new contractors aren't providing service that meets Americans with Disabilities Act mandates.

You can read the entire Freep article by visiting the following web-page:

http://www.freep.com/article/20091119/NEWS01/911190465/1322/Disabled-riders-to-Bing-Undo-switch-in-transit-service

Meanwhile, a similar story, titled "Detroit group seeks para-transit firm's return," ran in The Detroit News. Here's an excerpt from that article....

Detroit --A minister, disabled passengers and bus drivers called for Mayor Dave Bing to pay Veolia Transportation so that the company can return as a para-transit provider.

The Rev. David Bullock, chair of the issues committee for the Council of Baptist Pastors, said Veolia has a contract with the city through 2011, but the Detroit Department of Transportation stopped paying in February. He led a group of about 25 people in chants of "Protect our seniors" and "Keep the money in Detroit" on Wednesday outside of the Michigan Rehabilitation Institute on John R near Mack on the city's east side.

"This issue must be solved today," Bullock said. "While politicians are talking about litigation, people are losing their jobs, and while people are talking about 'it's in process,' people are getting into Checker Cabs and not getting the service that's required. We need resolution today."

Earlier this month, the city announced ATC/Vancom Inc. recently operating as Veolia Transportation, will no longer provide Detroit Metro Lift para-transit service to about 1,200 customers.

But disabled transit advocates said they were pleased with Veolia Transportation as its service provider, and the other vendors are not giving adequate service.

The Rev. Robert Smith, who is blind, told fellow pastors at the Council of Baptist Pastors meeting Tuesday that he has filed 22 complaints with DDOT and was dropped off at the wrong location by a cab.

Smith is a member of Northwest Community Baptist Church. During public discussions at the Rose Park Transit Center on Tuesday, blind and disabled residents who use wheelchairs called on DDOT to resolve their issues with Veolia to stay in compliance with the Americans with Disabilities Act and provide safe and reliable para-transit service.

Disabled and elderly passengers have expressed numerous complaints about the five independent contractors DDOT is using.

The complete www.Detnews.com article can be found at:

http://www.detnews.com/article/20091118/METRO/911180420/1361/Group-seeks-return-of-para-transit-company-in-Detroit

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#3042

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Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:05 am
Subject: Anniversary Reminder

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#3041

From: Carl Dutch <carlscomputers@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:22 pm
Subject: Re: DDOT Paratransit Service - What's the Deal???

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TRANSPORTATION DEPT. INTRODUCES DETROIT MOBILITY 1ST
A Change in DDOT ADA Complementary Paratransit Service

10/8/2009
Detroit News

Effective Monday, October 12 at 11:59 p.m., a change to the Detroit Department of Transportation's (DDOT) Detroit MetroLift Paratransit Service will be introduced. Detroit MetroLift will transition to DDOT's new Detroit Mobility 1st (DM1) service. ATC Vancom/Veolia will no longer provide paratransit services for DDOT.

DM1 is designed to improve performance in all aspects of DDOT's paratransit service delivery to Detroit's elderly, disabled, and low-income riders, as well as increase accessibility. The change will ensure increased levels of on-time, reliable, and customer-friendly service that address the specific needs of our ADA passengers, according
to Lovevett Williams, DDOT Director.

Based on individual mobility needs, riders will now board either bright yellow Checker Cab sedans or Enjoi Transportation vehicles that may be white, gray, or burgundy marked or white unmarked wheelchair accessible vans. As DDOT adds more transit providers, customers will be immediately notified by direct mail, or information will be available through DDOT Customer Service or by visiting DDOT's Web site at www.RideDetroitTransit.com.

All drivers are certified by DDOT to ensure full compliance with Federal Transit Administration (FTA) requirements. At all times, each driver will visibly display on their person, a DDOT-issued photo identification badge that identifies them as a DDOT-certified driver. Each vehicle will also display a DDOT-issued vehicle identifier in its window.

Although many services are enhanced to provide quality performance, as activities progress, DDOT is making every effort to make it a seamless transition for paratransit riders, Williams said.

However, then I came across another City of Detroit News Release posted the following day, dated October 9, 2009, which contained the following.....

DETROIT DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO CONTINUE PARATRANSIT SERVICE

10/9/2009
Detroit News
NOTE: The previously issued release regarding paratransit service has been retracted.

OKay, But then I ran across this from the Novemer 6, 2009 online edition of The Detroit News....

Transit company for the disabled is dropped

The city announced Thursday that ATC/Vancom Inc., recently operating as Veolia Transportation, will no longer provide Detroit Metro Lift para-transit service. The city's bus service will continue to do so using different providers for the service that provides direct delivery to those with disabilities.

Anybody know what's going on here? So I take it Metrolift is no more? ...and yellow Checker Cabs and "unmarked" vans are the replacement vehicles? I guess I'm missing something here!

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#3039

From: MARTIN EDWARDS CLARK <yahtouchus@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:21 pm
Subject: Re: Is it possible to change the destinations on the electronic signs...

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Dr. Scott,

I have forwarded this request to my supervisors and they will take it under advisement.

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From: professorscottfromdetroit <anderssc@...>
To: DSR-2-DOT@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 2:52:09 PM
Subject: [DSR-2-DOT] Is it possible to change the destinations on the electronic signs...

Hi to all,

I'm a frequent enough rider on both DDOT and SMART, I've met some of the DDOT folks over the years from various things I work on, and I have a question.

Some of the buses give a specific facility as the destination on the electronic signs in the window, so for instance the northbound Dexter buses typically say "Northland" or "Providence Hospital". Some give just the name of the street at the end of the route, such as the westbound Puritan bus which says "Southfield" .

The Linwood buses northbound say they are going to "Livernois". That's great, but Livernois is about ten miles long; Linwood and Livernois do not intersect, so if you don't already know where the Linwood bus goes, you still wouldn't know from the sign.

The actual destination is the U of D Mercy campus. Who would we talk to (I teach at UDM) in order to have the destination on the sign actually say "U of D Mercy" or some such thing?

Thanks,
Scott

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#3038

From: "professorscottfromdetroit" <anderssc@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:52 pm
Subject: Is it possible to change the destinations on the electronic signs...

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Hi to all,

I'm a frequent enough rider on both DDOT and SMART, I've met some of the DDOT
folks over the years from various things I work on, and I have a question.

Some of the buses give a specific facility as the destination on the electronic
signs in the window, so for instance the northbound Dexter buses typically say
"Northland" or "Providence Hospital".  Some give just the name of the street at
the end of the route, such as the westbound Puritan bus which says "Southfield".

The Linwood buses northbound say they are going to "Livernois".  That's great,
but Livernois is about ten miles long; Linwood and Livernois do not intersect,
so if you don't already know where the Linwood bus goes, you still wouldn't know
from the sign.

The actual destination is the U of D Mercy campus.  Who would we talk to (I
teach at UDM) in order to have the destination on the sign actually say "U of D
Mercy" or some such thing?

Thanks,
Scott

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#3037

From: "g2as_in_good@..." <g2as_in_good@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 4:11 pm
Subject: Re: City Bus Driver Suspended for Insisting Passengers Pray

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DSR-2-DOT Moderator wrote:

Here's one for the "to pray or not to pray" column. A Metropolitan Atlanta Rapid Transit Authority (MARTA) bus driver was suspended because passengers said he stopped his bus and insisted that they all hold hands while he led them in prayer. Check this out!...

ATLANTA (AP) An Atlanta city bus driver has been suspended for five days after passengers said he insisted they hold hands as he led them in prayer.

MARTA spokesman Lyle V. Harris told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution that LeRoy Matthews' behavior during the Nov. 3 incident violated MARTA policy.

According to a complaint filed with MARTA, when a passenger approached the front of the bus when it stopped around 7:30 p.m., Matthews stood and asked everyone to hold hands for a brief prayer. The complaint says the prayer lasted four to five minutes.

Harris says it is unclear what they prayed for or about and whether this has happened before Matthews has worked for MARTA for six years.

Did MARTA management go too far, or not far enough???

For more on this story see: http://www.ajc.com/news/marta-bus-driver-suspended-188965.html

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#3036

From: MARTIN EDWARDS CLARK <yahtouchus@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:00 pm
Subject: Re: Re: City Bus Driver Suspended for Insisting Passengers Pray

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Although you make a point about respecting beliefs, MARTA had to set a precident: when you sign your hiring contract, unless they hired you as a chaplin, stick to your job. Suppose a terrorist wants you to pray on the coach (and let's not forget there are terrorist of every religious and non-religous belief), would allowing this bus driver to get away might start something that couldn't be stopped. Besides, public prayer doesn't make you truly spiritual, as the Messiah said, "And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly." Matthew 6:5 - 6

No matter what religion you are, wise words that if followed would stop a lot of trouble!

Martin Edwards - Clark

From: Latonha <latonha@...>
To: DSR-2-DOT@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 7:57:03 AM
Subject: [DSR-2-DOT] Re: City Bus Driver Suspended for Insisting Passengers Pray

Well. I believe that everyone has a right there own beliefs. We may not like there views or practices, but we should respect them. The passengers should not have been subjected to participate in her prayer session against there will. No matter what was going on good or bad. The driver was delaying service, big no no! I don't think the driver should have been fired over it NO. Written up yes. Maybe even suspended for a few day. But FIRED! WOW. I thing we should pray for this driver to get there job back.

--- In DSR-2-DOT@yahoogrou ps.com, DSR-2-DOT Moderator <dsr-2-ddot@ ...> wrote:
>
> Here's one for the "to pray or not to pray" column. A Metropolitan Atlanta Rapid Transit Authority (MARTA) bus driver was suspended because passengers said he stopped his bus and insisted that they all hold hands while he led them in prayer. Check this out!...
>
> ATLANTA (AP) An Atlanta city bus driver has been suspended for five days after passengers said he insisted they hold hands as he led them in prayer.
>
> MARTA spokesman Lyle V. Harris told the Atlanta Journal-Constitutio n that LeRoy Matthews' behavior during the Nov. 3 incident violated MARTA policy.
>
> According to a complaint filed with MARTA, when a passenger approached the front of the bus when it stopped around 7:30 p.m., Matthews stood and asked everyone to hold hands for a brief prayer. The complaint says the prayer lasted four to five minutes.
>
> Harris says it is unclear what they prayed for or about and whether this has happened before. Matthews has worked for MARTA for six years.
>
>
> Did MARTA management go too far, or not far enough???
>
> For more on this story see: http://www.ajc. com/news/ marta-bus- driver-suspended -188965.html
>

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#3035

From: "Latonha" <latonha@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:57 pm
Subject: Re: City Bus Driver Suspended for Insisting Passengers Pray

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Well. I believe that everyone has a right there own beliefs. We may not like
there views or practices, but we should respect them. The passengers should not
have been subjected to participate in her prayer session against there will. No
matter what was going on good or bad. The driver was delaying service, big no
no! I don't think the driver should have been fired over it NO. Written up yes.
Maybe even suspended for a few day. But FIRED! WOW. I thing we should pray for
this driver to get there job back.

--- In DSR-2-DOT@yahoogroups.com, DSR-2-DOT Moderator <dsr-2-ddot@...> wrote:
>
> Here's one for the "to pray or not to pray" column. A Metropolitan Atlanta
Rapid Transit Authority (MARTA) bus driver was suspended because passengers said
he stopped his bus and insisted that they all hold hands while he led them in
prayer. Check this out!...
>
> ATLANTA (AP) An Atlanta city bus driver has been suspended for five days after
passengers said he insisted they hold hands as he led them in prayer.
>
> MARTA spokesman Lyle V. Harris told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution that
LeRoy Matthews' behavior during the Nov. 3 incident violated MARTA policy.
>
> According to a complaint filed with MARTA, when a passenger approached the
front of the bus when it stopped around 7:30 p.m., Matthews stood and asked
everyone to hold hands for a brief prayer. The complaint says the prayer lasted
four to five minutes.
>
> Harris says it is unclear what they prayed for or about and whether this has
happened before. Matthews has worked for MARTA for six years.
>
> �
> Did MARTA management go too far, or not far enough???�
> �
> For more on this story see:
http://www.ajc.com/news/marta-bus-driver-suspended-188965.html
>

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#3034

From: iris hill <sweetirislady@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:44 am
Subject: RE: City Bus Driver Suspended for Insisting Passengers Pray

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TRANSPORTATION DEPT. INTRODUCES DETROIT MOBILITY 1STA Change in DDOT ADA Complementary Paratransit Service

DETROIT DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO CONTINUE PARATRANSIT SERVICE

Transit company for the disabled is dropped

TRANSPORTATION DEPT. INTRODUCES DETROIT MOBILITY 1STA Change in DDOT ADA Complementary Paratransit Service

DETROIT DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO CONTINUE PARATRANSIT SERVICE

Transit company for the disabled is dropped

TRANSPORTATION DEPT. INTRODUCES DETROIT MOBILITY 1ST
A Change in DDOT ADA Complementary Paratransit Service

TRANSPORTATION DEPT. INTRODUCES DETROIT MOBILITY 1ST
A Change in DDOT ADA Complementary Paratransit Service