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#3047

From: "H.B.Craig-II" <hbcraig2@...>
Date: Tue Dec 1, 2009 11:37 pm
Subject: Changes at Detroit Transit History website

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ATTENTION MEMBERS:

For those of you who visit my Detroit Transit History website from time to time, you might have noticed that a number of changes were recently made to the site. Over the past couple of weeks or more I've made a few cosmetic changes to the majority of the web-pages found on the site, except on those pages which are slated for a major upgrade sometime in the near future.

In addition, I've been working on a half-dozen or more new entries to the "Bus Route History" section, including the history of the recently discontinued Holbrook bus line. For the most part, the draft pages have already been completed, it's just a matter of me adding the pages to the website. I plan to post them over the next few weeks....so stay tuned!

Meanwhile, a couple of those route history pages that I was never really satisfied with have been revised, ...namely, the "Eight Mile West" and the "Woodrow Wilson" bus lines.

The history on these two former bus lines can be found by clicking on the following links:

EIGHT MILE WEST

http://www.detroittransithistory.info/Routes/EightMileWest.html

WOODROW WILSON

http://www.detroittransithistory.info/Routes/WoodrowWilson.html

H.B.Craig,II (Site Administrator)

http://www.detroittransithistory.info/

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#3046

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Date: Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:31 pm
Subject: personal rapid transit:future or elevated fantasy?!

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Subject: personal rapid transit:future or elevated fantasy?!

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#3045

From: DSR-2-DOT@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:06 am
Subject: Anniversary Reminder

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Title:		"READY-FARE" WENT INTO EFFECT ON THIS DATE IN 1968

Date:		Monday November 30, 2009
Time:		12:15 am - 12:15 am
Repeats:		This event repeats every year.
Notes:		On this date in Detroit Transit History: D.S.R. OPERATORS NO LONGER MADE CHANGE FOR PASSENGERS Effective Saturday, November 30, 1968, the DSR's new exact-change policy called "Ready-Fare" was instituted. As robberies of DSR drivers increased, an exact-change policy had been proposed back in 1964, but never instituted. Instead, ticket rates were later adjusted so that drivers wouldn't have to make change for riders buying tickets. But after the 1967 summer riots erupted in Detroit, and after a driver had been killed while on-duty did "Ready-Fare" finally go into effect.

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#3044

From: Fleetwood Rock <gstone770@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:03 am
Subject: Re: DDOT Paratransit Service - What's the Deal???

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From: H.B.Craig-II <hbcraig2@...>
To: DSR-2-DOT@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 6:02:34 PM
Subject: Re: [DSR-2-DOT] DDOT Paratransit Service - What's the Deal???

Here's an update on the MetroLift/D- DOT/DM1 para-transit issue. According to the following excerpt from today's Detroit Free Press, in an article titled "Disabled riders to Bing: Undo switch in transit service," it looks like the matter is headed to the courts. Here's from www.Freep.com....

People with disabilities and senior citizens called on Detroit leaders Wednesday to reverse an apparent decision to switch providers of specialized MetroLift rides that serve those who have trouble using regular buses.

The city announced earlier this month that Veolia Transportation would no longer be a provider of paratransit services. Officials said Veolia terminated its contract with the city Nov. 6.

But Veolia officials said Wednesday that the city stopped making payments in February, started contracting with other companies and has refused to discuss the issue. Veolia has provided paratransit services for the Detroit Department of Transportation since 1999 and was contracted through 2011.

Veolia has sued the city in U.S. District Court in Detroit, seeking nearly $10 million for breach of contract.

At a news conference Wednesday, representatives from Veolia and groups including the Council of Baptist Pastors of Detroit & Vicinity and the RainbowPUSH Coalition urged Mayor Dave Bing to reverse DDOT's decision on Veolia.

"We're hoping Mayor Bing will call a meeting, bring the parties together and try to resolve it," said Isaac Robinson, political director for the Michigan Teamsters Joint Council No. 43, which represents Veolia drivers.

Bing's office released a statement saying the city will continue to provide paratransit service but not commenting on Veolia's allegations.

Robinson said 125 unionized drivers will lose their jobs if the city stands by its decision, and the people they served worry that the new contractors aren't providing service that meets Americans with Disabilities Act mandates.

You can read the entire Freep article by visiting the following web-page:
http://www.freep. com/article/ 20091119/ NEWS01/911190465 /1322/Disabled- riders-to- Bing-Undo- switch-in- transit-service

Meanwhile, a similar story, titled "Detroit group seeks para-transit firm's return," ran in The Detroit News. Here's an excerpt from that article....

Detroit --A minister, disabled passengers and bus drivers called for Mayor Dave Bing to pay Veolia Transportation so that the company can return as a para-transit provider.

The Rev. David Bullock, chair of the issues committee for the Council of Baptist Pastors, said Veolia has a contract with the city through 2011, but the Detroit Department of Transportation stopped paying in February. He led a group of about 25 people in chants of "Protect our seniors" and "Keep the money in Detroit" on Wednesday outside of the Michigan Rehabilitation Institute on John R near Mack on the city's east side.

"This issue must be solved today," Bullock said. "While politicians are talking about litigation, people are losing their jobs, and while people are talking about 'it's in process,' people are getting into Checker Cabs and not getting the service that's required. We need resolution today."

Earlier this month, the city announced ATC/Vancom Inc. recently operating as Veolia Transportation, will no longer provide Detroit Metro Lift para-transit service to about 1,200 customers.

But disabled transit advocates said they were pleased with Veolia Transportation as its service provider, and the other vendors are not giving adequate service.

The Rev. Robert Smith, who is blind, told fellow pastors at the Council of Baptist Pastors meeting Tuesday that he has filed 22 complaints with DDOT and was dropped off at the wrong location by a cab.

Smith is a member of Northwest Community Baptist Church. During public discussions at the Rose Park Transit Center on Tuesday, blind and disabled residents who use wheelchairs called on DDOT to resolve their issues with Veolia to stay in compliance with the Americans with Disabilities Act and provide safe and reliable para-transit service.

Disabled and elderly passengers have expressed numerous complaints about the five independent contractors DDOT is using.

The complete www.Detnews. com article can be found at:
http://www.detnews. com/article/ 20091118/ METRO/911180420/ 1361/Group- seeks-return- of-para-transit- company-in- Detroit

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#3043

From: "H.B.Craig-II" <hbcraig2@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:02 pm
Subject: Re: DDOT Paratransit Service - What's the Deal???

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Here's an update on the MetroLift/D-DOT/DM1 para-transit issue. According to the following excerpt from today's Detroit Free Press, in an article titled "Disabled riders to Bing: Undo switch in transit service," it looks like the matter is headed to the courts. Here's from www.Freep.com....

People with disabilities and senior citizens called on Detroit leaders Wednesday to reverse an apparent decision to switch providers of specialized MetroLift rides that serve those who have trouble using regular buses.

The city announced earlier this month that Veolia Transportation would no longer be a provider of paratransit services. Officials said Veolia terminated its contract with the city Nov. 6.

But Veolia officials said Wednesday that the city stopped making payments in February, started contracting with other companies and has refused to discuss the issue. Veolia has provided paratransit services for the Detroit Department of Transportation since 1999 and was contracted through 2011.

Veolia has sued the city in U.S. District Court in Detroit, seeking nearly $10 million for breach of contract.

At a news conference Wednesday, representatives from Veolia and groups including the Council of Baptist Pastors of Detroit & Vicinity and the RainbowPUSH Coalition urged Mayor Dave Bing to reverse DDOT's decision on Veolia.

"We're hoping Mayor Bing will call a meeting, bring the parties together and try to resolve it," said Isaac Robinson, political director for the Michigan Teamsters Joint Council No. 43, which represents Veolia drivers.

Bing's office released a statement saying the city will continue to provide paratransit service but not commenting on Veolia's allegations.

Robinson said 125 unionized drivers will lose their jobs if the city stands by its decision, and the people they served worry that the new contractors aren't providing service that meets Americans with Disabilities Act mandates.

You can read the entire Freep article by visiting the following web-page:

http://www.freep.com/article/20091119/NEWS01/911190465/1322/Disabled-riders-to-Bing-Undo-switch-in-transit-service

Meanwhile, a similar story, titled "Detroit group seeks para-transit firm's return," ran in The Detroit News. Here's an excerpt from that article....

Detroit --A minister, disabled passengers and bus drivers called for Mayor Dave Bing to pay Veolia Transportation so that the company can return as a para-transit provider.

The Rev. David Bullock, chair of the issues committee for the Council of Baptist Pastors, said Veolia has a contract with the city through 2011, but the Detroit Department of Transportation stopped paying in February. He led a group of about 25 people in chants of "Protect our seniors" and "Keep the money in Detroit" on Wednesday outside of the Michigan Rehabilitation Institute on John R near Mack on the city's east side.

"This issue must be solved today," Bullock said. "While politicians are talking about litigation, people are losing their jobs, and while people are talking about 'it's in process,' people are getting into Checker Cabs and not getting the service that's required. We need resolution today."

Earlier this month, the city announced ATC/Vancom Inc. recently operating as Veolia Transportation, will no longer provide Detroit Metro Lift para-transit service to about 1,200 customers.

But disabled transit advocates said they were pleased with Veolia Transportation as its service provider, and the other vendors are not giving adequate service.

The Rev. Robert Smith, who is blind, told fellow pastors at the Council of Baptist Pastors meeting Tuesday that he has filed 22 complaints with DDOT and was dropped off at the wrong location by a cab.

Smith is a member of Northwest Community Baptist Church. During public discussions at the Rose Park Transit Center on Tuesday, blind and disabled residents who use wheelchairs called on DDOT to resolve their issues with Veolia to stay in compliance with the Americans with Disabilities Act and provide safe and reliable para-transit service.

Disabled and elderly passengers have expressed numerous complaints about the five independent contractors DDOT is using.

The complete www.Detnews.com article can be found at:

http://www.detnews.com/article/20091118/METRO/911180420/1361/Group-seeks-return-of-para-transit-company-in-Detroit

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#3042

From: DSR-2-DOT@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:05 am
Subject: Anniversary Reminder

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Title:		DETROIT TROLLEY-BUS SERVICE ENDED ON THIS DATE IN 1962

Date:		Monday November 16, 2009
Time:		12:15 am - 12:15 am
Repeats:		This event repeats every year.
Notes:		On this date in Detroit Transit History: TRACKLESS TROLLEY-COACH SERVICE ENDED On Friday, November 16, 1962, the last DSR line to offer electric surface transportation was converted to buses. The eighty St. Louis Car Co. built trolley-buses, which had operated on Grand River since July 1951, were put out of service on this date. Grand River then became the last DSR route to be converted to all buses. One year earlier, Twin Coach built trolley-bus service on the Crosstown (Warren Ave.) line ceased on March 31, 1961.

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#3041

From: Carl Dutch <carlscomputers@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:22 pm
Subject: Re: DDOT Paratransit Service - What's the Deal???

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TRANSPORTATION DEPT. INTRODUCES DETROIT MOBILITY 1ST
A Change in DDOT ADA Complementary Paratransit Service

10/8/2009
Detroit News

Effective Monday, October 12 at 11:59 p.m., a change to the Detroit Department of Transportation's (DDOT) Detroit MetroLift Paratransit Service will be introduced. Detroit MetroLift will transition to DDOT's new Detroit Mobility 1st (DM1) service. ATC Vancom/Veolia will no longer provide paratransit services for DDOT.

DM1 is designed to improve performance in all aspects of DDOT's paratransit service delivery to Detroit's elderly, disabled, and low-income riders, as well as increase accessibility. The change will ensure increased levels of on-time, reliable, and customer-friendly service that address the specific needs of our ADA passengers, according
to Lovevett Williams, DDOT Director.

Based on individual mobility needs, riders will now board either bright yellow Checker Cab sedans or Enjoi Transportation vehicles that may be white, gray, or burgundy marked or white unmarked wheelchair accessible vans. As DDOT adds more transit providers, customers will be immediately notified by direct mail, or information will be available through DDOT Customer Service or by visiting DDOT's Web site at www.RideDetroitTransit.com.

All drivers are certified by DDOT to ensure full compliance with Federal Transit Administration (FTA) requirements. At all times, each driver will visibly display on their person, a DDOT-issued photo identification badge that identifies them as a DDOT-certified driver. Each vehicle will also display a DDOT-issued vehicle identifier in its window.

Although many services are enhanced to provide quality performance, as activities progress, DDOT is making every effort to make it a seamless transition for paratransit riders, Williams said.

However, then I came across another City of Detroit News Release posted the following day, dated October 9, 2009, which contained the following.....

DETROIT DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO CONTINUE PARATRANSIT SERVICE

10/9/2009
Detroit News
NOTE: The previously issued release regarding paratransit service has been retracted.

OKay, But then I ran across this from the Novemer 6, 2009 online edition of The Detroit News....

Transit company for the disabled is dropped

The city announced Thursday that ATC/Vancom Inc., recently operating as Veolia Transportation, will no longer provide Detroit Metro Lift para-transit service. The city's bus service will continue to do so using different providers for the service that provides direct delivery to those with disabilities.

Anybody know what's going on here? So I take it Metrolift is no more? ...and yellow Checker Cabs and "unmarked" vans are the replacement vehicles? I guess I'm missing something here!

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#3039

From: MARTIN EDWARDS CLARK <yahtouchus@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:21 pm
Subject: Re: Is it possible to change the destinations on the electronic signs...

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Dr. Scott,

I have forwarded this request to my supervisors and they will take it under advisement.

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From: professorscottfromdetroit <anderssc@...>
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Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 2:52:09 PM
Subject: [DSR-2-DOT] Is it possible to change the destinations on the electronic signs...

Hi to all,

I'm a frequent enough rider on both DDOT and SMART, I've met some of the DDOT folks over the years from various things I work on, and I have a question.

Some of the buses give a specific facility as the destination on the electronic signs in the window, so for instance the northbound Dexter buses typically say "Northland" or "Providence Hospital". Some give just the name of the street at the end of the route, such as the westbound Puritan bus which says "Southfield" .

The Linwood buses northbound say they are going to "Livernois". That's great, but Livernois is about ten miles long; Linwood and Livernois do not intersect, so if you don't already know where the Linwood bus goes, you still wouldn't know from the sign.

The actual destination is the U of D Mercy campus. Who would we talk to (I teach at UDM) in order to have the destination on the sign actually say "U of D Mercy" or some such thing?

Thanks,
Scott

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From: "professorscottfromdetroit" <anderssc@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:52 pm
Subject: Is it possible to change the destinations on the electronic signs...

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Hi to all,

I'm a frequent enough rider on both DDOT and SMART, I've met some of the DDOT
folks over the years from various things I work on, and I have a question.

Some of the buses give a specific facility as the destination on the electronic
signs in the window, so for instance the northbound Dexter buses typically say
"Northland" or "Providence Hospital".  Some give just the name of the street at
the end of the route, such as the westbound Puritan bus which says "Southfield".

The Linwood buses northbound say they are going to "Livernois".  That's great,
but Livernois is about ten miles long; Linwood and Livernois do not intersect,
so if you don't already know where the Linwood bus goes, you still wouldn't know
from the sign.

The actual destination is the U of D Mercy campus.  Who would we talk to (I
teach at UDM) in order to have the destination on the sign actually say "U of D
Mercy" or some such thing?

Thanks,
Scott

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TRANSPORTATION DEPT. INTRODUCES DETROIT MOBILITY 1STA Change in DDOT ADA Complementary Paratransit Service

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Transit company for the disabled is dropped

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DETROIT DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO CONTINUE PARATRANSIT SERVICE

Transit company for the disabled is dropped

TRANSPORTATION DEPT. INTRODUCES DETROIT MOBILITY 1ST
A Change in DDOT ADA Complementary Paratransit Service

TRANSPORTATION DEPT. INTRODUCES DETROIT MOBILITY 1ST
A Change in DDOT ADA Complementary Paratransit Service