--- On Mon, 10/26/09, akanon85 <akanon85@...> wrote:
From: akanon85 <akanon85@...> Subject: [DesktopRadiance] Question from new user: how do I get the password after installation? To: DesktopRadiance@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 3:02 PM
Not sure where to get the password to use radiance after installation. ..any advice?
I've already taken the download from the website and it mentioned to enter the password received after registration, just not sure where to find it.
Not sure where to get the password to use radiance after installation...any
advice?
I've already taken the download from the website and it mentioned to enter the
password received after registration, just not sure where to find it.
--- In DesktopRadiance@yahoogroups.com, "german_osma" <gerard_9962@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, my is Germán Osma, I'm student master in green buildings. Few days ago, I
downloaded DESKTOP-RADIANCE. But I need to know some things to begin to use it.
> 1. In the manual says that I should install AUTOCAD 2000 or R14, but I have
AUTOCAD 2008, and not you how to make it work.
> 2. Are the manuals for RADIANCE-LINUX useful for DESKTOP-RADIANCE?
> 3. How do I work DESKTOP-RADIANCE without ECOTECT and AUTOCAD? Should I work
in D.O.S.? Because, when I active the icon-DOS appears the TEXT EDITOR DOS, and
I don´t know how start.
>
> thanks for your attention!!!
>
Furthermore, the time of the TRIAL of ECOTECT was just me.
Hi, my is Germán Osma, I'm student master in green buildings. Few days ago, I
downloaded DESKTOP-RADIANCE. But I need to know some things to begin to use it.
1. In the manual says that I should install AUTOCAD 2000 or R14, but I have
AUTOCAD 2008, and not you how to make it work.
2. Are the manuals for RADIANCE-LINUX useful for DESKTOP-RADIANCE?
3. How do I work DESKTOP-RADIANCE without ECOTECT and AUTOCAD? Should I work in
D.O.S.? Because, when I active the icon-DOS appears the TEXT EDITOR DOS, and I
don´t know how start.
thanks for your attention!!!
hi, I am a college student doing a urban design project for my professor. The
purpose of the project is to evaluate human behavior based on the light level in
a room.
I understand radiance can simulation time, date, etc. But when I used image
analysis, it only gives me a number output of a workplane(ex: a desk). Is there
anyway I can have a average number of illuminance in a room? then the user could
decide if to turn the light on or off based on his/her preference. Also, is
there a way to set the light on/off when I proceed the simulation.
Thank you.
I am very new with radiance.. I am trying to work in linux. I wanna
use gensurf command.for that I need to know which type of file should
be used as input. an image file or something else.. I have tried some
mesh data but its showing bad number of data points..
Please help me out.
Hi Vangelis!
Thank you very much for your attention.
I've tried to do so by importing (in Grid Management) RADIANCE results
to ECOTECT (version 5.60) in .DAT format (035.dat,087.dat), but values
are totally wrong than in RADIANCE.
I will have a try your method.
Thanks!
Iskandar.
--- In DesktopRadiance@yahoogroups.com, Evangelos Christakou
<vangelis@...> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
> To get illuminance on the working level you have to export and
calculate it
> on RADIANCE for Windows and import the results into ECOTECT.
> Inside Ecotect's HELP files, you find:
>
> Output to RADIANCE
> >
>
>
> > Ecotect includes support for the automatic generation of material
data and
> > control files (RIF files), as well as various CIE sky models. To
output a
> > set of RAD and RIF files, select the Export... item from the File
menu and
> > select RADIANCE Scene File as the type of file. You can also use
the RADIANCE
> > button in the Export Manager panel. For more details on the options
> > available when creating these files, see the RADIANCE Export dialog.
>
>
> Inside Export Manager (RADIANCE CONTROL PANEL) you select to export
> illuminance points to " Surface and/Point Analisys" so after
calculation,
> all you have to do do is: Inside ECOTECT press F5 (plan) and select
> RADIANCE results in menu (right side) "Analisys Grid" and " voillá"
!!!! [?]
>
>
> If you need any futher help....
>
> Sorry for my poor english.
>
> cheers,
>
> vangelis
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 8:37 AM, iskandaruz <iskandaruz@...> wrote:
>
> > Hello!
> >
> > How can I measure the working plane illuminance by using the Radiance?
> > Because I have tried so many times, and looked everywhere on the
> > Internet, but still cannot find out the method to estimate the
> > required result, but here's only the illuminance level of the wall,
> > ceiling and wall. could anyone tell me about the process of evaluating
> > the illuminance level of working plane (0.8m above floor)?
> > Now I am using ECOTECT for the simulation experiments.
> >
> > Thank you very much in advance!
> >
> >
> >
>
To get illuminance on the working level you have to export and calculate it on RADIANCE for Windows and import the results into ECOTECT.
Inside Ecotect's HELP files, you find:
Output to RADIANCE
For physically accurate and comprehensive lighting analysis, Ecotect can output RADIANCE scene files data for direct input into the RADIANCE Lighting Simulation Software written by Greg Ward at Lawrence Berkeley Laboratories. This is a very accurate simulation tool that is available freely to the public. For MS windows machines, you will require the Desktop RADIANCE download available from http://radsite.lbl.gov/.
Ecotect includes support for the automatic generation of material data and control files (RIF files), as well as various CIE sky models. To output a set of RAD and RIF files, select the Export... item from the File menu and select RADIANCE Scene File as the type of file. You can also use the RADIANCE button in the Export Manager panel. For more details on the options available when creating these files, see the RADIANCE Export dialog.
Inside Export Manager (RADIANCE CONTROL PANEL) you select to export illuminance points to " Surface and/Point Analisys" so after calculation, all you have to do do is: Inside ECOTECT press F5 (plan) and select RADIANCE results in menu (right side) "Analisys Grid" and " voillá" !!!!
If you need any futher help....
Sorry for my poor english.
cheers,
vangelis
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 8:37 AM, iskandaruz <iskandaruz@...> wrote:
Hello!
How can I measure the working plane illuminance by using the Radiance?
Because I have tried so many times, and looked everywhere on the
Internet, but still cannot find out the method to estimate the
required result, but here's only the illuminance level of the wall,
ceiling and wall. could anyone tell me about the process of evaluating
the illuminance level of working plane (0.8m above floor)?
Now I am using ECOTECT for the simulation experiments.
Hello!
How can I measure the working plane illuminance by using the Radiance?
Because I have tried so many times, and looked everywhere on the
Internet, but still cannot find out the method to estimate the
required result, but here's only the illuminance level of the wall,
ceiling and wall. could anyone tell me about the process of evaluating
the illuminance level of working plane (0.8m above floor)?
Now I am using ECOTECT for the simulation experiments.
Thank you very much in advance!
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hi,
Can DR simulate a self-luminous wall or window? Can I create a new
luminaire, and define the self-luminous object as a luminaire?
I try to define a new luminaire in DR, but after I follow all the steps
in DR, I get the error which says "Couldn't open imposter geometry file
for parsing!". Can someone tell me a more clear figure to do this? or
tell me another way to create a new luminaire. Thanks a lot.
There is some discussion of this in the Rendering with Radiance book.
If you are only concerned with the color appearance of the final
rendering, you can simply adjust the RGB values of the sources being
used.
If you want to effect calculations of illuminance values (lx,fc), then
you're going to have to wait until my thesis is done. I am currently
developing a script to account for the SPDs of sources and the
reflectance distributions of surfaces in radiance calculations.
- Matt Brugman
--- In DesktopRadiance@yahoogroups.com, majid miri <maj_miri@...> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> Does someone have some knowledge about how can we make an interior
computer rendering under different light sources with different
Spectral Power Distribution?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Majid
>
>
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Does someone have some knowledge about how can we make an interior computer rendering under different light sources with different Spectral Power Distribution?
Thank you,
Majid
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----- Original Message ---- From: maj_miri <maj_miri@...> To: DesktopRadiance@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 10:59:43 AM Subject: [DesktopRadiance] Re: Web Download Problems
Dear Chas
I want to install Radiance 1.02 and downloaded it, but I can't do it because it needs a password for uncompressing th Zip file. I really appreciate you if you can tell me how to do that.
I am looking forward to hearing from you. Best regards, Majid Miri
--- In DesktopRadiance@ yahoogroups. com, "Charles Ehrlich" <ckehrlich@. ..> wrote: > > > My apologies to all those who have been unable to download > Desktop Radiance 1.02. > > We have been having problems with our MS FrontPage server. > I think we now have it under control, including the addition > of an ftp download option. > > To download the software, you must either log in with an > existing email and password, or fill out the
registraion > form anew. You can also request your password to be sent > to your email address if you have forgotten it. The link > is: http://radsite. lbl.gov/deskrad/ download/ > > -Chas >
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Dear Chas
I want to install Radiance 1.02 and downloaded it, but I can't do it
because it needs a password for uncompressing th Zip file. I really
appreciate you if you can tell me how to do that.
I am looking forward to hearing from you.
Best regards,
Majid Miri
--- In DesktopRadiance@yahoogroups.com, "Charles Ehrlich"
<ckehrlich@...> wrote:
>
>
> My apologies to all those who have been unable to download
> Desktop Radiance 1.02.
>
> We have been having problems with our MS FrontPage server.
> I think we now have it under control, including the addition
> of an ftp download option.
>
> To download the software, you must either log in with an
> existing email and password, or fill out the registraion
> form anew. You can also request your password to be sent
> to your email address if you have forgotten it. The link
> is: http://radsite.lbl.gov/deskrad/download/
>
> -Chas
>
Hello George,
TY for coming back to us.
The software that I am using is the Radiance Module of the IES
(APACHE) suite. This is mostly used for thermal prediction,
overheating, also compliance with local building regulation,
ventilation studies etc. The mein reason I mentioned the fact that it
was not RADIANCE or DESKTOP RADIANCE is because the data inputting
maybe (and probably is) completely different (unfortunately I have
never used RADIANCE - I am not allowed to have an old AutoCAD version
which had the add-on RADIANCE module, so don't know for sure). I do
not have a library of materials from which to choose, for example,
the "MIRROR"; instead, I assign materials/surface properties to the
wall, windows etc. Likewise, I am sure that you have your libraries,
but you can also modify them and add different/new materials, or
change the value slightly; glass manufacturers, for example, are
continuosly producing new coatings with different properties etc.
TY very much for the link, it seems to confirm that I am not 100
miles away; infact I can see, for example, that the "metal material
types" use 1.0 for full specularity and 0.5 for a "dirty" mirror.
Ideally I would need a " wavy" funtion to my specularity, but I do
not have a "METAL2" definition. No biggies, this is probably outside
the scope of my work, which is only to check DF in classrooms to see
if they comply with the reccomended guidelines.
With regards to mkillum, I think that I have seen "functions"
somewhere, but I have never used any before and I cannot check right
now (License availlability issues).
TY again,
Regards,
Willy
--- In DesktopRadiance@yahoogroups.com, "g_a_chadwick"
<g_a_chadwick@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Willy,
>
> I can't see why your approach shouldn't work apart from:- your not
> specifying what software you are using, and the interreflections
> being a problem when using many verily highly specular surfaces.
>
> So far as materials go, for mirror in Radiance I would use MIRROR
> material! Hasn't the software you use got this material? For
specular-
> reflector-lightpipe/in-lightwell I would use the mkillum program as
> the skylight source at the top as well. Doesn't the software have
> that function?
>
> Were you aware of the guidance on Radiance material types for
> Rayfront (at http://www.schorsch.com/rayfront/manual/matdef.html ),
> which uses Radiance materials formats and engines? Tis most
helpful,
> I think. As it says, a value >0.1 for specularity is 'unusual'.
Hmmm.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Regards,
> George
> <<>><<>><<>>
> --- In DesktopRadiance@yahoogroups.com, "willyfaber" <willy.pane@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > to start with, I am using the Radiance tool as implemented in a
> > different software suite, but I imagine that this is fairly
> > irrelevant.
> >
> > I am looking at daylight factors in classrooms using CIE uniform
> sky,
> > and at the use of light wells to "brighten up" the back of deep
> > classrooms. I want the maximum amount of light possible been
> > channeled down the light well, so I thought that some aluminium
> foil
> > coating could be used. For this coating I used the following
values:
> > R-Refl = 0.91, B-Refl = 0.92, G-Refl = 0.92 (this is roughly the
> > reflectance of polished aluminium at the different wavelength for
> > Red, Green, Blue). For specularity.... I took the average of the
3
> > values, so I used 0.917 (this is a pure guess, but I thought
that
> a
> > value of between 0.9 and 1.0 would have been appropriate - ok
maybe
> > 1.0 would have been too optimistic, so any 0.9, 0.925, 0.95 would
> > have been good). I assumed the surface to be polished, hence
> > roughness = 0.
> >
> > Is this approach valid.. or did I completely miss the point?
> > Where can I find some guidance? For example, how would I go to
> > simulate a mirror?
> >
> > many thanks,
> >
> > willy
> >
>
Hello: I need to know if it is possible to simulate the performance of materials in desktopRadiance that transport natural light by Total InternalReflection as the acrylic bars.
Hello Willy,
I can't see why your approach shouldn't work apart from:- your not
specifying what software you are using, and the interreflections
being a problem when using many verily highly specular surfaces.
So far as materials go, for mirror in Radiance I would use MIRROR
material! Hasn't the software you use got this material? For specular-
reflector-lightpipe/in-lightwell I would use the mkillum program as
the skylight source at the top as well. Doesn't the software have
that function?
Were you aware of the guidance on Radiance material types for
Rayfront (at http://www.schorsch.com/rayfront/manual/matdef.html ),
which uses Radiance materials formats and engines? Tis most helpful,
I think. As it says, a value >0.1 for specularity is 'unusual'. Hmmm.
Good luck.
Regards,
George
<<>><<>><<>>
--- In DesktopRadiance@yahoogroups.com, "willyfaber" <willy.pane@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> to start with, I am using the Radiance tool as implemented in a
> different software suite, but I imagine that this is fairly
> irrelevant.
>
> I am looking at daylight factors in classrooms using CIE uniform
sky,
> and at the use of light wells to "brighten up" the back of deep
> classrooms. I want the maximum amount of light possible been
> channeled down the light well, so I thought that some aluminium
foil
> coating could be used. For this coating I used the following values:
> R-Refl = 0.91, B-Refl = 0.92, G-Refl = 0.92 (this is roughly the
> reflectance of polished aluminium at the different wavelength for
> Red, Green, Blue). For specularity.... I took the average of the 3
> values, so I used 0.917 (this is a pure guess, but I thought that
a
> value of between 0.9 and 1.0 would have been appropriate - ok maybe
> 1.0 would have been too optimistic, so any 0.9, 0.925, 0.95 would
> have been good). I assumed the surface to be polished, hence
> roughness = 0.
>
> Is this approach valid.. or did I completely miss the point?
> Where can I find some guidance? For example, how would I go to
> simulate a mirror?
>
> many thanks,
>
> willy
>
Hi all,
to start with, I am using the Radiance tool as implemented in a
different software suite, but I imagine that this is fairly
irrelevant.
I am looking at daylight factors in classrooms using CIE uniform sky,
and at the use of light wells to "brighten up" the back of deep
classrooms. I want the maximum amount of light possible been
channeled down the light well, so I thought that some aluminium foil
coating could be used. For this coating I used the following values:
R-Refl = 0.91, B-Refl = 0.92, G-Refl = 0.92 (this is roughly the
reflectance of polished aluminium at the different wavelength for
Red, Green, Blue). For specularity.... I took the average of the 3
values, so I used 0.917 (this is a pure guess, but I thought that a
value of between 0.9 and 1.0 would have been appropriate - ok maybe
1.0 would have been too optimistic, so any 0.9, 0.925, 0.95 would
have been good). I assumed the surface to be polished, hence
roughness = 0.
Is this approach valid.. or did I completely miss the point?
Where can I find some guidance? For example, how would I go to
simulate a mirror?
many thanks,
willy
Hi Everyone,
I tried one of the tutorials in Ecotect 5.2 and I discovered that my
Desktop Radiance download does not have the brick1.cal function
file.Pls can anyone help me out? I have tried the cygwin package, but
to no avail.
Thanks everyone and more grease to your elbows for keeping this
usergroup functioning.
Hi Tracy,
remembering:
TARGET point refers to where you are looking.
CAMERA point refers to from where you are looking.
so, imagine that you are holding a photo camera, target point means the
center point of what you want to photograph, and camera point means
where you are (x and Y coords) and how fa from the ground you are (z
coord).
after that, you MUST save it like a view.
and in DR menu SIMULATION > Camera> you have to choose it.
I dont have DR on my computer, so I'm tryng to remember these steps, so
I hope that my memory is still working.
regards,
evangelos Quoting tracy_colcord <tracy_colcord@...>:
> Okay sorry all!! I figured the dview command out. However, I still
> get exterior views from it. What am I doing wrong?
>
> --- In DesktopRadiance@yahoogroups.com, "tracy_colcord"
> <tracy_colcord@...> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the speedy response! When I type in "points" after "dview"
>> it says that is an invalid selection. I just started using DR so I am
>> a complete amateur!
>>
>> --- In DesktopRadiance@yahoogroups.com, "Evangelos Christakou"
>> <vangelis@> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi group!!!
>> >
>> > I think the best way to set up a camera view in AutoCAD is the "old
>> way":
>> >
>> > 1- command:DVIEW
>> > 2-option: POINTS
>> > 3-option: TARGET POINT: use ".x" (you must type it without " " , to
>> filter X
>> > coord) than ".y" (to filter Y coord) than ".z" (to filter Z coord)
>> > 4-option: CAMERA POINT: use the same above.
>> >
>> > so you have a camera with precision, you have to adjust the lens and
>> after
>> > that:save this view.
>> >
>> > Now in DR menu, you may choose it to render your model.
>> >
>> > regards,
>> >
>> > evangelos christakou
>> >
>> > 2007/7/9, tracy_colcord <tracy_colcord@>:
>> > >
>> > > Hey everyone! I've been having problems setting up the camera in
>> > > desktop radiance. I can get a very good image of the outside of the
>> > > room I build but cannot get any views of the inside. When I set up a
>> > > camera and switch to that view, it just shows the inside of the
> camera
>> > > and nothing else. Can anyone help me?!?!
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
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Okay sorry all!! I figured the dview command out. However, I still
get exterior views from it. What am I doing wrong?
--- In DesktopRadiance@yahoogroups.com, "tracy_colcord"
<tracy_colcord@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the speedy response! When I type in "points" after "dview"
> it says that is an invalid selection. I just started using DR so I am
> a complete amateur!
>
> --- In DesktopRadiance@yahoogroups.com, "Evangelos Christakou"
> <vangelis@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi group!!!
> >
> > I think the best way to set up a camera view in AutoCAD is the "old
> way":
> >
> > 1- command:DVIEW
> > 2-option: POINTS
> > 3-option: TARGET POINT: use ".x" (you must type it without " " , to
> filter X
> > coord) than ".y" (to filter Y coord) than ".z" (to filter Z coord)
> > 4-option: CAMERA POINT: use the same above.
> >
> > so you have a camera with precision, you have to adjust the lens and
> after
> > that:save this view.
> >
> > Now in DR menu, you may choose it to render your model.
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > evangelos christakou
> >
> > 2007/7/9, tracy_colcord <tracy_colcord@>:
> > >
> > > Hey everyone! I've been having problems setting up the camera in
> > > desktop radiance. I can get a very good image of the outside of the
> > > room I build but cannot get any views of the inside. When I set up a
> > > camera and switch to that view, it just shows the inside of the
camera
> > > and nothing else. Can anyone help me?!?!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
Thanks for the speedy response! When I type in "points" after "dview"
it says that is an invalid selection. I just started using DR so I am
a complete amateur!
--- In DesktopRadiance@yahoogroups.com, "Evangelos Christakou"
<vangelis@...> wrote:
>
> Hi group!!!
>
> I think the best way to set up a camera view in AutoCAD is the "old
way":
>
> 1- command:DVIEW
> 2-option: POINTS
> 3-option: TARGET POINT: use ".x" (you must type it without " " , to
filter X
> coord) than ".y" (to filter Y coord) than ".z" (to filter Z coord)
> 4-option: CAMERA POINT: use the same above.
>
> so you have a camera with precision, you have to adjust the lens and
after
> that:save this view.
>
> Now in DR menu, you may choose it to render your model.
>
> regards,
>
> evangelos christakou
>
> 2007/7/9, tracy_colcord <tracy_colcord@...>:
> >
> > Hey everyone! I've been having problems setting up the camera in
> > desktop radiance. I can get a very good image of the outside of the
> > room I build but cannot get any views of the inside. When I set up a
> > camera and switch to that view, it just shows the inside of the camera
> > and nothing else. Can anyone help me?!?!
> >
> >
> >
>
I think the best way to set up a camera view in AutoCAD is the "old way":
1- command:DVIEW 2-option: POINTS 3-option: TARGET POINT: use ".x" (you must type it without " " , to filter X coord) than ".y" (to filter Y coord) than ".z" (to filter Z coord)
4-option: CAMERA POINT: use the same above.
so you have a camera with precision, you have to adjust the lens and after that:save this view.
Now in DR menu, you may choose it to render your model.
Hey everyone! I've been having problems setting up the camera in
desktop radiance. I can get a very good image of the outside of the
room I build but cannot get any views of the inside. When I set up a
camera and switch to that view, it just shows the inside of the camera
and nothing else. Can anyone help me?!?!
Hey everyone! I've been having problems setting up the camera in
desktop radiance. I can get a very good image of the outside of the
room I build but cannot get any views of the inside. When I set up a
camera and switch to that view, it just shows the inside of the camera
and nothing else. Can anyone help me?!?!
I am trying to simulate LASER CUT PANEL in Desktop Radiance using Greenup,
Edmonds and Compagnon Algorithm
the simulations ran fine when I used camera option, but when I used grid option
I got unrealistic readings;
in front part the readings are much more higher than the reading in a room
has a window without a shading device, while in the rear part the reading
are less than the reading in a room has a window without a shading
device.
I tried to use many w/d ratio and to change the direction but I still got the
same problem with different readings and numbers.
Anyone can help
best wishes
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Hi all,
I have a problem when I simulate my grid points. It creates the files
and entities alright but an error comes up when the Database is
Synchronising. The error says in a simman dialog box:
" Error: CopyItem: Item doesnt have a fikle, exiting"
i press ok, then the next error message says:
" Error copying graphic editor item 2548085"
Please help! it would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
Adriana
Thanks Evangelos!
--- In DesktopRadiance@yahoogroups.com, "Evangelos" <vangelis@...> wrote:
>
> Adriana,
>
> Run from your BIN folder a register to RADIANCE, clicking twice on
> file ray_reg.reg included during the instalation
>
> I think that will be enough to avoid this error.
>
> regards,
>
> vangelis
>
Adriana,
Run from your BIN folder a register to RADIANCE, clicking twice on
file ray_reg.reg included during the instalation
I think that will be enough to avoid this error.
regards,
vangelis