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Re: [HC] Python and SPAM

Hi,

In my opinion, SuperCard is closer to HyperCard than anything else
available. Surely, it has its peculiarities, but Revolution has more.
It has a few bugs, but Revolution has more. Then again, it has lots of
features, but Revolution has more.

I like SuperCard for being simple, reliable and stable. I also like it
because it is very much Mac-like and because there are lots of useful
externals available for free. I have used SuperCard to use several
nice projects for clients of mine and always have lots of fun while
working with it, while I'm always very frustrated about Revolution,
where everything works more or less as expected but not quite. There
are also a few things that are simply impossible with SuperCard, such
as creating cross-platform software, which means that I still use
Revolution for the majority of my projects. Obviously, I don't mean
that everything is possible with Revolution. I believe both have their
advantages and disadvantages and I don't regret having paid for either
of them.

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Mark Schonewille

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On 5 jul 2009, at 14:10, Jacob Palme wrote:

> At 00.30 +0200 09-06-09, Daniel Riaño wrote:
>>> Revolution has won me over. If you know HC, you already know this,
>>> too.
>>> There are a few head changes, but not many, and the end result is
>>> a wonderland
>
> I have been using Hypercard at lot and have two stacks I am
> still using. One of them, I tried to convert. First to
> Supercard, which did not work at all. Then to Revolution,
> which worked after about an hour of minor changes to
> scripts.
>
> The other stack is more complex, there are invisible errors
> in it which cause some card to crash. So I guess I will
> never be able to migrate it to a living platform.
>
> The other objection to migrating to Leopard is an old
> program called "Adressbook". My intention is to write a
> replacement program using REALbasic. When that is done,
> everything I have which depends on Classic has been
> migrated to OS X.
>
> I regret the money I paid for buying Supercard, I should
> have tested it more before paying for it.
> --
> Jacob Palme <jpalme@...> (Stockholm University and KTH)
> for more info see URL: http://www.dsv.su.se/jpalme/
>




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... I have been using Hypercard at lot and have two stacks I am still using. One of them, I tried to convert. First to Supercard, which did not work at all....
Jacob Palme
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Hi, In my opinion, SuperCard is closer to HyperCard than anything else available. Surely, it has its peculiarities, but Revolution has more. It has a few bugs,...
Mark Schonewille
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Jul 5, 2009
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... Since my experience is the opposite, that it was much easier to migrate to Revolution than to Supercard, it is good that there are two choices, so that...
Jacob Palme
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Nov 4, 2009
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... One common reason for this is that the HC stack was not compacted before opening it in Rev. You need to compact twice in a row and then immediately close...
J. Landman Gay
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Jul 6, 2009
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... Such things could be included in a migration manual from Hypercard. Neither Supercard nor Revolution seems to have any such manual. -- Jacob Palme...
Jacob Palme
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... Well, there's this: <http://www.runrev.com/developers/moving-to-revolution/hypercard/> -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque@... ...
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Hi, I'm afraid my HC manuals are in storage somewhere and, needing to look something up, I was wondering if anyone knew of them being available as PDFs...
Judy Perry
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Also -- does anyone know when/what version of HC introduced sound channels? I'm looking at my Danny Goodman Handbook for 2.2 and there's no index entry for it...
Judy Perry
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Go Here: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=50133 or, for the "other" Hypercard: ...
Richmond Mathewson
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Thank you, Richmond. Judy...
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Does anyone know if Jonathan/Rebecca opensourced PlayCommand Agent X for Shakobox? Judy...
Judy Perry
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... I've decided to release the source code for the PlayCommand Agent program that made playing HyperTalk note syntax using QuickTime possible. It's available...
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If you have some spare money floating around (Ha, Ha), I just found this: http://www.instruction-manuals.co.uk/category/compprog/hypercard.htm AND . . . Sound...
Richmond Mathewson
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If I really needed it, I would probably rather pay than go through the storage unit where mine are located ;-) Judy...
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Hi folks, ... Ya know ... I remember using the original manuals back in the late '80's. The first 'third party' manual I got was Danny Goodman's original 'The...
Kenneth Norris
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Hi Judy, Do you really need to knwo _when_ or do you also need to know _how_? set the soundChannel to 2 There are 8 sound channels. You can set them before...
Mark Schonewille
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Hi Mark, I need to know how, specifically, for someone who is seeking to replicate the behavior in Rev via a plugin/external. I have a vague recollection that...
Judy Perry
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... HC's note-playing ability preceded sound channels, so you don't have to set those if you only have one string of notes, it's all automatic. If you don't...
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Thanks, Jacque! I think they were introduced in 2.3; Richmond found the manuals for 2.3 online and they reference the use of the sound channels. ... Perhaps...
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Hi Judy, ... That's the key, I think. True, it can play 8 channels, but not at once, nor timed over top of one another. IOW, AIRC, I could never get HC to play...
Kenneth Norris
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