I'd be more than happy to take some off your hands!  <VBG>

Brian Clark
W4SOU
I'm not a train nut, I'm a ferroequinologist!

visit my web site: www.trainweb.org/kyrailfan

----- Original Message -----
From: <Wayside905@...>
To: <k8dti@...>; <CincyRails@yahoogroups.com>;
<KentuckyRailfan@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: [CincyRails] No More Kentucky Division


> This makes good sense.  My office is CRAMMED with boxes of new NS
Timetables
> and operating rule books that are required for our crews that are in the
> NS/CSX Directional Running plan from Butler Street to NA Tower.
>
>
> Bob
>
>
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> CincyRails-unsubscribe@egroups.com
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>

A SP tunnel motor leads NS 355 northbound at Revelo on track two on the
FORMER Kentucky Division during the summer of 2000....


Chris

--- In KentuckyRailfan@y..., "Brian Clark" <kyrailfan@m...> wrote:
> I'd be more than happy to take some off your hands!  <VBG>
>
> Brian Clark
> W4SOU
> I'm not a train nut, I'm a ferroequinologist!
>
> visit my web site: www.trainweb.org/kyrailfan
>



I'd be more than happy to take some of the "Obsolete Antiques" off
your hands as well!I know of a good home for them.MINE!!











> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Wayside905@a...>
> To: <k8dti@o...>; <CincyRails@y...>;
> <KentuckyRailfan@egroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 11:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [CincyRails] No More Kentucky Division
>
>
> > This makes good sense.  My office is CRAMMED with boxes of new NS
> Timetables
> > and operating rule books that are required for our crews that are
in the
> > NS/CSX Directional Running plan from Butler Street to NA Tower.
> >
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > CincyRails-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> >
> >
> >

Roger,you must have been reading my mind!I was wondering how they
would divide up the ugh,Central division.The "Central Division"sounds
so sterile.Atleast with the"Kentucky Division",you knew exactly where
you were at on the system.Now the Central District might as well be
in outer Mongolia!We have lost our identity!
            R.I.P Kentucky Division!

Mourning in Danville,
Dieselfan

CSX "FE7A's" #9992 & 9993 (ex-Amtrak F40's) are in the
Queensgate Yard engine pit in Cincinnati, Ohio. They arrived this
morning from Huntington, WV on Q631-31 after an extensive shop
visit. They appear to have been painted again and other
modifications, such as larger fuel tanks (?) applied. I am guessing
they will go south on Q141 to JAX tonight or tomorrow.
-------------
"Ya'll be safe out there, CK dispatcher out." - RLD
"Eight and sand young man!" - JCM
"Conrail Cincinnati Line to the COCS, highball on the B&O." - Herb Chambers

Jay,

What you saw was us checking the timing on the crossing signal circut there
at Forbes road.  We have made some improvments to the system there, and the
you saw us we where checking the starting circuts...I just happened to be in
town with the train, so our signal guy used the engine instead of a shunt...
You may often see our power tied up just West of the Forbes Road crossing,
behind the Pepsi plant, as this is the bosses perfered spot for leaveing the
engines in Lexington..  Next time you see us, stop by and say hey..

E.M. Bell, KD4JSL
Lexington & Ohio RR
Versailles, KY

I was sort of laid up in bed with a cold today and I heard something
happening on the NS frequency. Whatever it was happened at the Lisle Road
crossing between Lexington and Georgetown. I didn't hear the start of it (was
asleep) but I heard them saying something about someone going into the bushes
and later on they said that police and fire units were on the way. I heard a
later train trying to get permission and the crewman saying something about
whatever happened being a "shame".  Anybody hear anything about this? I just
caught on to the tail end of it and wondered what it was.

I heard bits of this too.  It happened before 12:15 (when I left work
today).  A trainmaster was looking for a guy that went into the bushes.
Said something about him (the guy) "doing the same thing before."  Conductor
was walking the train (M79).
Later, the engineer was instructed to take the train to Lexington when the
conductor got to the rear of it and train 229 would pick him up and take him
to the head-end.

Brian Clark
W4SOU
I'm not a train nut, I'm a ferroequinologist!

visit my web site: www.trainweb.org/kyrailfan

----- Original Message -----
From: <awhtmh@...>
To: <KentuckyRailfan@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 7:17 PM
Subject: [KentuckyRailfan] What happened today???


> I was sort of laid up in bed with a cold today and I heard something
> happening on the NS frequency. Whatever it was happened at the Lisle Road
> crossing between Lexington and Georgetown. I didn't hear the start of it
(was
> asleep) but I heard them saying something about someone going into the
bushes
> and later on they said that police and fire units were on the way. I heard
a
> later train trying to get permission and the crewman saying something
about
> whatever happened being a "shame".  Anybody hear anything about this? I
just
> caught on to the tail end of it and wondered what it was.
>
>
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It's a-holes like this that cause the safe railfan all the trouble.  While
we respecting railfans are the railroads' best allies, idiot railfans and
idiots in general cause everyone else a bunch of grief.

Jeff
http://www.trainweb.org/cnotp


>I heard bits of this too.  It happened before 12:15 (when I left work
>today).  A trainmaster was looking for a guy that went into the bushes.
>Said something about him (the guy) "doing the same thing before."


>> asleep) but I heard them saying something about someone going into the
bushes
>> and later on they said that police and fire units were on the way. I
heard a
>> later train trying to get permission and the crewman saying something
about
>> whatever happened being a "shame".  Anybody hear anything about this? I

In a message dated 02/02/2001 5:43:03 PM Pacific Standard Time,
cnotp@... writes:

<< >I heard bits of this too.  It happened before 12:15 (when I left work
  >today).  A trainmaster was looking for a guy that went into the bushes.
  >Said something about him (the guy) "doing the same thing before." >>

Thanks for the info. It was about 12:00 or so when I heard it too.

Here is the latest on the rebuilds.  First some background:

3000-3049 lettered FURX
3053-3102 lettered GCFX
3103-3152 lettered CEFX

3000-3019(?)  painted Gray/Green
3020(?)-3049, 3053-3071(?) painted Silver/Green
3072 painted Alstom demo scheme for 2000 RSA show
3073(?)- 3112 painted Off White with white Scotchlight stripes
3113-(3152) painted Medium blue with White diagonals

I need confirmation of the exact break points for each paint scheme.  If you
see 3015-3024 or 3065-3074 please respond **OFF LIST** to me how they are
painted.

Roger Rassche
f40ph@...


FURX  3000 DEPART         LOAD  Q67503 WAUHATCHI  TN 0204 0750
FURX  3001 ARRIVE         LOAD  G07402 COLUMBUS   OH 0203 2215
FURX  3002 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q57902 NEWORLEAN  LA 0204 0000
FURX  3003 ARRIVE         LOAD  S64203 CLEARING   IL 0203 1805
FURX  3004 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q39703 TOLSTANLE  OH 0204 0035
FURX  3005 DEPART         LOAD  Q60202 GOULDING   FL 0203 1535
FURX  3006 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q53404 LOUISVILL  KY 0204 0435
FURX  3007 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q26603 WALBRIDGE  OH 0204 0330
FURX  3008 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q41703 PAVONIA    NJ 0203 2305
FURX  3009 DEPART         LOAD  Q52004 GOULDING   FL 0204 0400
FURX  3010 ARRIVE         LOAD  T96002 COLUMBUS   OH 0204 0630
FURX  3011 INTERCHANGE    LOAD  UP     NEWORLEAN  LA 0113 2159
FURX  3012 DEPART         LOAD  Q54503 MONTGOMER  AL 0203 2100
FURX  3013 DEPART         LOAD  Q19304 ATLHULSEY  GA 0204 0030
FURX  3014 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q58202 NASHVILLE  TN 0204 0215
FURX  3015 DEPART         LOAD  Q41604 ROCMOUNT   NC 0204 0450
FURX  3016 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q65104 EVANSVILL  IN 0204 0720
FURX  3017 DEPART         LOAD  Q32603 GRARAPIDS  MI 0204 0630
FURX  3018 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q26803 NORJUNCTI  NJ 0204 0815
FURX  3019 JUNC RECEIVED  LOAD  UP     NEWORLEAN  LA 0204 0237
FURX  3020 DEPART         LOAD  Q23603 BALDWIN    FL 0203 1900
FURX  3021 INTERCHANGE    LOAD  UP     CHICAGO    IL 0128 2256
FURX  3022 DEPART         LOAD  Q28303 SELKIRK    NY 0204 0753
FURX  3023 DEPART         LOAD  Q23003 BALDWIN    FL 0203 2200
FURX  3024 DEPART         LOAD  Q63704 TOLSTANLE  OH 0204 0530
FURX  3025 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q60131 NEWORLEAN  LA 0202 0715
FURX  3026 ARRIVE         LOAD  F76603 ANDREWS    SC 0203 2115
FURX  3027 INTERCHANGE    LOAD  UP     NEWORLEAN  LA 0103 0710
FURX  3028 DEPART         LOAD  Q67504 HAMLET     NC 0204 0100
FURX  3029 DEPART         LOAD  Q60502 MOBILE     AL 0204 0440
FURX  3030 ARRIVE         LOAD  H77431 NEWNEWS    VA 0201 0005
FURX  3031 ARRIVE         LOAD  F76802 MONROE     NC 0203 0025
FURX  3032 DEPART         LOAD  Q54503 MONTGOMER  AL 0203 2100
FURX  3033 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q30202 RICACCA    VA 0204 0645
FURX  3034 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q38602 SELKIRK    NY 0104 0445
FURX  3035 INTERCHANGE    LOAD  BNS    CHICAGO    IL 0119 2119
FURX  3036 DEPART         LOAD  K51403 LOUISVILL  KY 0204 0610
FURX  3037 DEPART         LOAD  U24104 BIRMINGHA  AL 0204 0315
FURX  3038 ARRIVE         LOAD  F77003 BOSYARD    NC 0203 1300
FURX  3039 DEPART         LOAD  Q68603 LOUISVILL  KY 0203 2025
FURX  3040 ARRIVE         LOAD  A73703 DOTHAN     AL 0204 0335
FURX  3041 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q69002 COLUMBUS   OH 0203 2245
FURX  3042 INTERCHANGE    LOAD  UP     CHICAGO    IL 0203 0653
FURX  3043 ARRIVE         LOAD  K65002 GREENVILL  NJ 0203 2250
FURX  3044 INTERCHANGE    LOAD  UP     AVALONST   TN 0202 2132
FURX  3045 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q51203 CINCINNAT  OH 0204 0625
FURX  3046 DEPART         LOAD  G97003 RICFULTON  VA 0204 0355
FURX  3047 JUNC RECEIVED  LOAD  BNS    CHICAGO    IL 0204 0123
FURX  3048 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q21303 ATLANTA    GA 0204 0738
FURX  3049 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q38602 SELKIRK    NY 0204 0900
GCFX  3053 INTERCHANGE    LOAD  CN     CINCINNAT  OH 0111 2225
GCFX  3054 INTERCHANGE    LOAD  UP     CHICAGO    IL 0120 2100
GCFX  3055 DEPART         LOAD  Q22801 CINCINNAT  OH 0203 1935
GCFX  3056 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q51203 CINCINNAT  OH 0204 0625
GCFX  3057 DEPART         LOAD  L49104 HAMLET     NC 0204 0430
GCFX  3058 DEPART         LOAD  Q26403 SELKIRK    NY 0204 0229
GCFX  3059 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q24903 CONNELLSV  PA 0204 0853
GCFX  3060 DEPART         LOAD  Q21103 ATLANTA    GA 0204 0455
GCFX  3061 ARRIVE         LOAD  G97003 RICFULTON  VA 0204 0325
GCFX  3062 ARRIVE         LOAD  Y10231 GREENVILL  NJ 0131 0815
GCFX  3063 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q38003 BUFFALO    NY 0204 0510
GCFX  3064 ARRIVE         LOAD  A75703 GAINESVIL  GA 0203 1115
GCFX  3065 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q58203 WAUHATCHI  TN 0204 0430
GCFX  3066 DEPART         LOAD  Q62002 SYRACUSE   NY 0204 0620
GCFX  3067 DEPART         LOAD  Q50003 GARRETT    IN 0204 0905
GCFX  3068 DEPART         LOAD  Q40503 RICACCA    VA 0204 0545
GCFX  3069 INTERCHANGE    LOAD  BNS    CHICAGO    IL 0121 2332
GCFX  3070 INTERCHANGE    LOAD  IHB    GIBSON     IN 0131 1810
GCFX  3071 DEPART         LOAD  Q36604 LOUISVILL  KY 0204 0100
GCFX  3072 INTERCHANGE    LOAD  UP     PROVISO    IL 0203 1813
GCFX  3073 INTERCHANGE    LOAD  UP     CHICAGO    IL 0120 2100
GCFX  3074 ARRIVE         LOAD  K98801 DOTHAN     AL 0202 1440
GCFX  3075 DEPART         LOAD  Q35603 FORTWAYNE  IN 0203 2120
GCFX  3076 INTERCHANGE    LOAD  UP     AVALONST   TN 0203 1602
GCFX  3077 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q40703 EASSAVANN  GA 0204 0715
GCFX  3078 ARRIVE         LOAD  K82103 BALDWIN    FL 0204 0430
GCFX  3079 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q57902 NEWORLEAN  LA 0204 0000
GCFX  3080 DEPART         LOAD  Q57303 LOUISVILL  KY 0204 0635
GCFX  3081 DEPART         LOAD  Q50704 TOLSTANLE  OH 0204 0630
GCFX  3082 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q50402 CINCINNAT  OH 0203 0240
GCFX  3083 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q15610 SOUKEATVT  NJ 0111 1915
GCFX  3084 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q55603 EVANSVILL  IN 0203 1840
GCFX  3085 INTERCHANGE    LOAD  UP     NEWORLEAN  LA 0203 1945
GCFX  3086 DEPART         LOAD  Q57603 BIRMINGHA  AL 0203 2030
GCFX  3087 DEPART         LOAD  G31503 WALBRIDGE  OH 0204 0715
GCFX  3088 INTERCHANGE    LOAD  UP     AVALONST   TN 0203 1602
GCFX  3089 INTERCHANGE    LOAD  UP     NEWORLEAN  LA 0202 2055
GCFX  3090 DEPART         LOAD  Q37403 AVON       IN 0204 0714
GCFX  3091 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q38002 SELKIRK    NY 0203 2309
GCFX  3092 DEPART         LOAD  Q69202 SPARTANBU  SC 0203 2315
GCFX  3093 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q63904 EFFINGHAM  IL 0204 0323
GCFX  3094 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q68902 WAYCROSS   GA 0203 0100
GCFX  3095 DEPART         LOAD  Q69202 SPARTANBU  SC 0203 2315
GCFX  3096 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q38103 BLUISLAND  IL 0203 1510
GCFX  3097 INTERCHANGE    LOAD  NS     EASSAILOU  IL 0203 2242
GCFX  3098 DEPART         LOAD  N57801 EASSAILOU  IL 0203 1930
GCFX  3099 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q63904 EFFINGHAM  IL 0204 0323
GCFX  3100 INTERCHANGE    LOAD  BNS    CHICAGO    IL 0202 2132
GCFX  3101 DEPART         LOAD  Q27204 LOUISVILL  KY 0204 0400
GCFX  3102 ARRIVE         LOAD  G61730 ROACHDALE  IN 0203 1630
CEFX  3103 JUNC RECEIVED  LOAD  WC     CHICAGO    IL 0203 2044
CEFX  3104 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q67603 ATLANTA    GA 0204 0645
CEFX  3105 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q57703 MONTGOMER  AL 0203 1930
CEFX  3106 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q51003 CINCINNAT  OH 0203 2230
CEFX  3107 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q55103 LOUISVILL  KY 0204 0530
CEFX  3108 DEPART         LOAD  Q54503 MONTGOMER  AL 0203 2100
CEFX  3109 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q62403 SYRACUSE   NY 0204 0640
CEFX  3110 DEPART         LOAD  Q54504 BIRMINGHA  AL 0204 0630
CEFX  3111 DEPART         LOAD  Q38203 GARRETT    IN 0204 0830
CEFX  3112 DEPART         LOAD  Q36104 CINCINNAT  OH 0204 0330
CEFX  3113 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q34602 PHIGREENW  PA 0203 1505
CEFX  3114 INTERCHANGE    LOAD  UP     SALEM      IL 0118 2217
CEFX  3115 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q28911 POTTERSBU  OH 0112 0400
CEFX  3116 ARRIVE         LOAD  N95531 SAGINAW    MI 0203 0450
CEFX  3117 DEPART         LOAD  Q47803 HAMLET     NC 0204 0215
CEFX  3118 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q20503 KAYAVENUE  TN 0204 0555
CEFX  3119 DEPART         LOAD  Q67803 BIRMINGHA  AL 0203 0915
CEFX  3120 DEPART         LOAD  Q23703 WAUHATCHI  TN 0204 0150
CEFX  3121 ARRIVE         LOAD  G22329 MONROE     NC 0203 2030
CEFX  3122 INTERCHANGE    LOAD  UP     PROVISO    IL 0129 1040
CEFX  3123 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q35203 CONNELLSV  PA 0203 1645
CEFX  3124 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q35203 CONNELLSV  PA 0203 1645
CEFX  3125 ARRIVE         LOAD  G22329 MONROE     NC 0203 2030
CEFX  3126 DEPART         LOAD  Q33804 CHICAGO    IL 0204 0310
CEFX  3127
CEFX  3128 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q37502 WILWEST    OH 0204 0430
CEFX  3129 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q62902 BUFFALO    NY 0203 1540
CEFX  3130 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q37502 WILWEST    OH 0204 0430
CEFX  3131
CEFX  3132 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q35701 BLUISLAND  IL 0204 0700
CEFX  3133
CEFX  3134 DEPART         EMPTY Q33804 CHICAGO    IL 0204 0310

Looks like we lost two this month:
CSXT  6605 ARRIVE         LOAD  H07913 HUNTINGTO  WV 0113 0555
CSXT  6608 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q38423 CUMBERLAN  MD 1224 1045

Still active:

C&O blue
CSXT  4617 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q50416 CINCINNAT  OH 1217 0645

Chessie
CSXT  6565 ARRIVE         LOAD  A03013 JACKSONVI  FL 0113 2330
CSXT  6602 ARRIVE         LOAD  Y32125 BOSTON     MA 0126 0010
CSXT  6627 ARRIVE         LOAD  W03325 BIRMINGHA  AL 0126 0540
CSXT  6629 ARRIVE         LOAD  U89630 SHAW       PA 0131 1000
CSXT  6639 ARRIVE         LOAD  L45803 WAYCROSS   GA 0204 0125
CSXT  6854 ARRIVE         LOAD  M03215 OAKWORTH   AL 0115 1915

Family Lines
CSXT  2715 ARRIVE         LOAD  Q59303 DECATUR    IL 0204 0702
CSXT  7078 ARRIVE         LOAD  G59102 CINCINNAT  OH 0203 2225

Seaboard System
CSXT  1115 ARRIVE         LOAD  Y42202 KAYAVENUE  TN 0202 1145
CSXT  2640 ARRIVE         LOAD  D73503 FLINT      MI 0204 0410
CSXT  2667 ARRIVE         LOAD  J70503 DANVILLE   IL 0203 1030
CSXT  4600 ARRIVE         LOAD  J78606 TRAUTMAN   OH 0106 1220
CSXT  4601 ARRIVE         LOAD  Y32517 CINCINNAT  OH 0118 0220

Roger Rassche
Jouez prudemment n'approchez pas la voie ferrée

From my office window, I just watched a southbound Q2xx series auto
rack train notch up as it headed across the C&O bridge from
Cincinnati into Covington.  Trailing unit is green and silver paint.
If someone could identify the unit number, please pass it along for
the benefit of those collecting that data.

BobE

Just got word that the NS let a set of road power get loose from the
South End of the Lexington Yard, and they are now on the ground at the
NS/LXOH Interchange at the far North end of the yard.  The North end
ladder track for NS becomes the LXOH mainline at a Switch point derail,
and that derail does it's jobs 2 or 3 times a year!  At least one engine
is all the way through the derail and laying on it's side.  R.J. Corman
will not be able to get to it untill Mid-morning, so there goes a days
interchange for us....

The last time this happened, a covered hopper full of soy beans got
dumped all over the place....and man did that ever stink in the hot
summer sun.  This is the second time a set of engines has hit the dirt
there in the last 3 years, the last time bought a local resident a brand
new Cadidliac

--
Emmett M. Bell, KD4JSL
Salvisa, KY
ICQ #60309361

The Lexington & Ohio Railroad  http://www.kih.net/lxoh
The Bluegrass Railroad Company

----- Original Message -----

From: E.M. Bell

To: Jay Burdette ; Kelly Barrnett ; KentuckyRailfan@egroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 11:49 PM

Subject: [KentuckyRailfan] NS on the ground..Lexington

Just got word that the NS let a set of road power get loose from the
South End of the Lexington Yard, and they are now on the ground at the
NS/LXOH Interchange at the far North end of the yard.  The North end
ladder track for NS becomes the LXOH mainline at a Switch point derail,
and that derail does it's jobs 2 or 3 times a year!  At least one engine
is all the way through the derail and laying on it's side.  R.J. Corman
will not be able to get to it untill Mid-morning, so there goes a days
interchange for us....

The last time this happened, a covered hopper full of soy beans got
dumped all over the place....and man did that ever stink in the hot
summer sun.  This is the second time a set of engines has hit the dirt
there in the last 3 years, the last time bought a local resident a brand
new Cadidliac

--
Emmett M. Bell, KD4JSL
Salvisa, KY
ICQ #60309361

The Lexington & Ohio Railroad  http://www.kih.net/lxoh
The Bluegrass Railroad Company




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The NS mainline is not blocked, and they are running trains past the
scene.  From what I can gather, it was the power from 175 that went for
the wild ride...You remember what he had for power roger??

--
Emmett M. Bell, KD4JSL
Salvisa, KY
ICQ #60309361

The Lexington & Ohio Railroad  http://www.kih.net/lxoh
The Bluegrass Railroad Company

SERVICE DATE - FEBRUARY 7, 2001

SURFACE TRANSPORTATION BOARD

DECISION AND NOTICE OF INTERIM TRAIL USE OR
ABANDONMENT

STB Docket No. AB-290 (Sub-No. 192X)

NORFOLK SOUTHERN RAILWAY COMPANY--ABANDONMENT
EXEMPTION-- IN ANDERSON AND WOODFORD COUNTIES, KY

Decided: February 6, 2001

The Norfolk Southern Railway Company (NSR) and the Rails to
Trails Conservancy (RTC) (collectively petitioners) have filed a joint
petition to reopen the abandonment proceeding and issue a notice
of interim trail use/rail banking (NITU) under section 8(d) of the
National Trails System Act, 16 U.S.C. 1247(d) (Trails Act), and if
necessary, to extend the deadline for the filing of a notice of
consummation of the abandonment authority. The petition will be
granted for the reasons discussed in this decision.



BACKGROUND

NSR filed a notice of exemption under 49 CFR 1152 Subpart F--
Exempt Abandonments to abandon its line of railroad between
milepost 0.7-LL, at Lawrenceburg, and milepost 3.5-LL, at Tyrone,
in Anderson and Woodford Counties, KY, a distance of
approximately 2.8 miles (line). The notice was served and
published in the Federal Register on December 27, 1999 (64 FR
72376). The notice stated that, if consummation had not been
effected by NSR's filing of a notice of consummation by December
27, 2000, and there were no legal or regulatory barriers to
consummation, the authority to abandon would automatically
expire.

By decision served January 25, 2000 (January 25 decision), the
Board reopened the proceeding. The January 25 decision denied a
request made by the Anderson County Fiscal Court (Anderson
County) for issuance of a NITU, (1) but granted the request for
imposition of a public use condition for a period of 180 days until
July 24, 2000, and imposed the condition that NSR retain its
interest in and take no steps to alter the historic integrity of the
entire rail line until completion of the section 106 process of the
National Historic Preservation Act, 16 U.S.C. 470f. By decision
served November 13, 2000 (November 13 decision), the Board
again reopened the proceeding and, based on a recommendation
from the Kentucky State Historic Preservation Officer (SHPO),
removed the section 106 historic preservation condition imposed in
the January 25 decision. (2)

On January 11, 2001, petitioners requested that the Board reopen
the proceeding and issue a NITU pursuant to the Trails Act to
permit interim trail use/rail banking negotiations on the right-of-way.
Petitioners further requested that, if necessary, the Board's
regulations at 49 CFR 1152.29(e)(2) (3) prescribing a deadline for
filing a notice of consummation of the abandonment be waived and
that the deadline be extended to January 12, 2001, or a later date,
if required to permit issuance of a NITU. (4)

DISCUSSION AND CONCLUSIONS

In the petition, NSR states that it had entered into an agreement to
transfer the property to TRBS, including an agreement that TRBS
would accept the historic preservation covenants discussed above.
NSR further states that, at the time the Board issued its November
13 decision, the transaction with TRBS had not yet closed but
notes that it had every reason to believe that TRBS would complete
the transaction and anticipated that the closing would take place
promptly and certainly prior to December 27, 2000, much less
January 12, 2001. NSR states that it intended to issue its notice of
consummation of abandonment at the time the transaction closed.
(5) On December 26, 2000, however, NSR learned that TRBS was
permitting its non-profit corporation charter to lapse and would no
longer exist as a corporate entity. Thus, TRBS could not accept
ownership of the line. NSR also learned that Anderson County was
no longer interested in acquiring the property for interim trail use.
NSR indicates that it was faced with a choice between exercising
the abandonment at the last minute (but being unable to convey
the property subject to the historic preservation covenants) or
finding another transferee, presumably a trail sponsor, who would
be willing to accept the property and adhere to the covenants.

According to NSR, after the negotiations with TRBS ended, it
promptly contacted RTC as an alternative trail sponsor, offering the
property for interim trail use/rail banking. Petitioners state that they
are willing to negotiate an interim trail use/rail banking agreement.
RTC has provided a statement of willingness to assume full
responsibility for management of, for any legal liability arising out of
the transfer or use of the right-of-way (unless the user is immune
from liability, in which case it need only indemnify the railroad
against any potential liability) and for the payment of all taxes
assessed against the right-of-way.

It is not necessary to determine whether the notice of
consummation deadline was December 27, 2000, or January 12,
2001, because under the facts described by petitioners, an
extension of the deadline is warranted. It is clear that NSR had no
intent to consummate the abandonment prior to satisfying the
concerns of the SHPO, and there is no apparent public benefit in
finding that the abandonment authorization has lapsed. The
deadline for filing a notice of consummation will therefore be
extended to the date of service of this decision to allow acceptance
of the trail use request and statement of willingness and issuance
of a NITU. Good cause exists to accept the late-filed trail use
statement. Trail use requests may be accepted as long as the
Board retains jurisdiction over the right-of-way (6) and the carrier is
willing to enter into negotiations. Because NSR has not
consummated the abandonment and is willing to negotiate for
interim trail/rail banking use, a NITU will be issued under 49 CFR
1152.29. The parties may negotiate an interim trail use/rail banking
agreement during the 180-day period, commencing on January 12,
2001. If the parties reach a mutually acceptable final agreement,
further Board approval will not be necessary. If no agreement is
reached within the 180 days, NSR may fully abandon the line. See
49 CFR 1152.29(d)(l). Use of the right-of-way for trail purposes is
subject to restoration for rail purposes.

This action will not significantly affect either the quality of the
human environment or the conservation of energy resources.

It is ordered:

1. This proceeding is reopened.

2. The deadline for the filing of a notice of consummation of the
abandonment authorization in this proceeding is extended to the
service date of this decision to allow acceptance of the trail use
request and issuance of a NITU in the present decision.

3. The decision served and published in the Federal Register on
December 27, 1999, exempting the abandonment by NSR of the
line described above, is modified to the extent necessary to
implement interim trail use/rail banking as set forth below, for a
period of 180 days from January 12, 2001, or until July 11, 2001.

4. If an interim trail use/rail banking agreement is reached, it must
require the trail user to assume, for the term of the agreement, full
responsibility for management of, for any legal liability arising out of
the transfer or use of (unless the user is immune from liability, in
which case it need only indemnify the railroad against any potential
liability), and for the payment of any and all taxes imposed on the
right-of-way.

5. Interim trail use/rail banking is subject to the future restoration of
rail service and to the user continuing to meet the financial
obligations for the right-of-way.

6. If the user intends to terminate trail use, it must send the Board
a copy of this decision and notice and request that trail use be
vacated on a specified date.

7. If an agreement for interim trail use/rail banking is reached by
July 11, 2001, interim trail use may be implemented. If no
agreement is reached by that date, NSR may fully abandon the line.

8. This decision is effective on its service date.

By the Board, David M. Konschnik, Director, Office of Proceedings.

Vernon A. Williams

Secretary

1. By letter to the Board dated January 19, 2000, NSR indicated
that it was unwilling to negotiate with Anderson County, as it had
agreed to convey its interest in the line to the Tyrone Rail & Bridge
Society, Inc. (TRBS). However, NSR also indicated in its letter
that, "[i]n the unforeseen event that the transaction is not
consummated, NSR will reconsider whether it should negotiate for
interim trail use, should the offer still be outstanding."

2. The November 13 decision anticipated that the entire right-of-way
would be deeded to TRBS, which had evidently agreed to retain
and maintain the entire rail line, including all bridges and trestles
eligible for inclusion in the National Register of Historic Places.

3. Under 49 CFR 1152.29(e)(2), a railroad has 1 year from the
service of the date of the decision permitting abandonment to file a
notice of consummation with the Board to signify that it has
exercised the authority granted and fully abandoned the line.
Notices will be deemed conclusive on the point of consummation if
there are no legal or regulatory barriers to consummation.

4. As further discussed below, petitioners state that NSR did not
learn that TRBS would be unable to accept the property until
December 26, 2000, one day before expiration of the 1-year period
for filing a notice of consummation set forth in 49 CFR
1152.29(e)(2). Nonetheless, NSR was of the opinion that the
deadline for providing notice of consummation here was January
12, 2001 (60 days after service of the Board's November 13
decision removing the historic preservation condition). Because of
confusion regarding whether the notice of consummation deadline
was December 27, 2000, or January 12, 2001, petitioners request
an extension or waiver of the deadline for filing a notice of
consummation if it is determined that the deadline has just passed.

5. Because that transaction would not have taken place under the
Trails Act, a notice of consummation would have been required.

6. See Rail Abandonments--Supplemental Trails Act Procedures, 4
I.C.C.2d 152, 157-58 (1987); Soo Line Railroad Company--
Exemption--Abandonment in Waukesha County, WI, Docket No.
AB-57 (Sub-No. 23X) (ICC served May 14, 1987); and Missouri-
Kansas-Texas Railroad Company--Abandonment--in Pettis and
Henry Counties, MO, Docket No. AB-102 (Sub-No. 16) (ICC served
Apr. 26, 1991).

Just got back from an enjoyable hour shooting the 4610 at Lawrenceburg
(thanks to the heads up from Steve Walker here on the list, and on the
phone from my mom).  Finally, I had a chance to get some pics of the
dang thing setting still, in decent light...Hell will surely freeze over
tonight:)

I did notice that the dedication plaque that was bolted to the carbody
was missing...and from the looks of the shiny paint where it was
located, it was removed recently..anybody heard why and when this was
removed??  Hope it was not a victim of a sticky fingered GERF...  The
paint is still in good shape, a little dull, but nothing a few hundred
bottles of McQuires wax couldn't solve.  The wheel and traction motor
work that was done in Ohio last week was very evident.  There is a new
traction motor and wheel set on #3, and the rest of the wheels looked
like they had been turned.  At least the NS is still keeping it in the
green and gold...anybody care to make a wager on when it gets
horsified??

--
Emmett M. Bell, KD4JSL
Salvisa, KY
ICQ #60309361

The Lexington & Ohio Railroad  http://www.kih.net/lxoh
The Bluegrass Railroad Company

Howdy all,

I posted 4 pics of the 4610 in the Files section of this list, if
anybody care to take a gander.  Anybody else have any pics of the old
gal they want to show?

E.M. Bell, KD4JSL
Salvisa, KY

> I posted 4 pics of the 4610 in the Files section of this list, if
> anybody care to take a gander.  Anybody else have any pics of the old
> gal they want to show?


Here is one of the 4610 on one of the SOU4501 excursions back in the 'day'
just west of Gate City, VA....

<http://www.geocities.com/ctspics/ns4610b.jpg>



Chris Starnes
Gate City, VA

Howdy all..

I have been listening to the NS North End DS talking to train 251
(Southbound triple crown) about some sort of trouble with one of the
roadrailer trailers (28th head trailer).  From what I can gather, the
Walton Detector got him for dragging equipment, but the crew found
nothing wrong.  He is now stopped on Single track at Sadieville and the
Dispatcher has A roadforeman, 2 shop trucks and the Lexington
trainmaster headed to him.  He has been stopped for about a hour, and
has everything tied up, 3 Northbounds are stacked up between rogers gap
and Akers waiting to move, and the DS told 376 it would be "a while"
before the problem was resolved.  Anybody up that way have any idea
whats up??

--
Emmett M. Bell, KD4JSL
Salvisa, KY
ICQ #60309361

The Lexington & Ohio Railroad  http://www.kih.net/lxoh
The Bluegrass Railroad Company

Is it still in L-burg?
Brian

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 4:41 PM
Subject: [KentuckyRailfan] Southern 4610 pics in files section


> Howdy all,
>
> I posted 4 pics of the 4610 in the Files section of this list, if
> anybody care to take a gander.  Anybody else have any pics of the old
> gal they want to show?
>
> E.M. Bell, KD4JSL
> Salvisa, KY
>
>
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Heard the 'spatcher tell a NB at Delaplain (who was having his own problems
with motive power) that 251 had to set a car out at Sadieville.  This was
around 1530, after I passed the Sadieville exit.  First, 251 was told to
wait for a shop truck. Then the chief told him to go ahead without the
truck.  How does one set out a roadrailer?

Brian

----- Original Message -----
From: E.M. Bell <lxoh4@...>
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Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 6:04 PM
Subject: [KentuckyRailfan] NS 251 (triple crown) problems


> Howdy all..
>
> I have been listening to the NS North End DS talking to train 251
> (Southbound triple crown) about some sort of trouble with one of the
> roadrailer trailers (28th head trailer).  From what I can gather, the
> Walton Detector got him for dragging equipment, but the crew found
> nothing wrong.  He is now stopped on Single track at Sadieville and the
> Dispatcher has A roadforeman, 2 shop trucks and the Lexington
> trainmaster headed to him.  He has been stopped for about a hour, and
> has everything tied up, 3 Northbounds are stacked up between rogers gap
> and Akers waiting to move, and the DS told 376 it would be "a while"
> before the problem was resolved.  Anybody up that way have any idea
> whats up??
>
> --
> Emmett M. Bell, KD4JSL
> Salvisa, KY
> ICQ #60309361
>
> The Lexington & Ohio Railroad  http://www.kih.net/lxoh
> The Bluegrass Railroad Company
>
>
>
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251 Is South of Georgetown now.  With the old Mark one trailers (the
ones with the rail axle mounted to the trailers and airbags), it was not
possable to set anything out.  I remember all the trouble those air
suspension bags used to cause, they would burst, letting the road wheels
ride on the rail...that caused a derailment at least one that I can
remember.  Even with the new equipment, I have no idea how they could
set out a trailer without jacks and special equiment.  The set out track
at Saidiville opens to the North if I remember right, so I dont think
they could do it there anyway.  ILl keep my ears open and see if it
makes it to Danville without further trouble.

--
Emmett M. Bell, KD4JSL
Salvisa, KY
ICQ #60309361

The Lexington & Ohio Railroad  http://www.kih.net/lxoh
The Bluegrass Railroad Company