Your question about the LIRR schedule is a good one. Based on recent acitvity I
would have to say that the LIRR does not really care about running a proper
schedule, even under "normal" circumstances, nor do they seem to have the
ability to make changes anywhere near quickly.

It seems to me that they struggle just to implement the 4 "General Order"
schedule updates every year. Anything in addition to that is problematic.
Again this, and many other past issues, point to a very extensive lack of
adequate procedures and poor technical proficiency by the LIRR. And it seems to
be getting worse.


The holiday issue is another thing altogether. Holidays that are not
"calendar specific" like thanksgiving (4th Thu of Nov) or "date specific" (like
July 4) adhere to the Monday-Friday observance. I am not sure if there is a
federal policy on how to deal with July 4th when it falls on a weekend, hence
the confusion.





--- In LIRRCommuters@yahoogroups.com, "mr beach" <mrbeach602@...> wrote:
>
> ---yomf,
>
> its my understanding that when a federal holiday falls on a saturday,its
observed on the day before.if it falls on a sunday,its observed on the next
calendar day-monday. the state and local governments,as well as most private
companies usually follow the feds.
>
> yes the p.o. closed at noon friday 7/3.my company was closed fri 7/3. dont
know about the banks but im pretty sure most were either closed or closed early.
>
> why doesnt the rr run a "modified" schedule on those days? dont run a holiday
schedule,but add a few trains to the daily schedule.
>
>
> In LIRRCommuters@yahoogroups.com, "yomf" <yomf@> wrote:
> >
> > July 3, 2009 was not a standard holiday - bank or market.
> >
> > Banks were open, but many closed early.
> > The Post Office was open - but closed early.
> >
> > http://randomdailynews.com/2009/07/02/are-banks-open-on-july-3-2009/
> >
> >
> > There was much confusion just about everywhere:
> >
http://www.rarityguide.com/forums/picnic/5346-banks-closed-july-3-2009-federal-h\
oliday.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In LIRRCommuters@yahoogroups.com, long_island_ <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Friday, July 3rd was actually a "Market Holiday" like Good Friday. The
stock market was closed, but banks, the post office, and some government offices
were open.
> > >
> > > -------------
> > >
> > > --- In LIRRCommuters@yahoogroups.com, "yomf" <yomf@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > July 3 was a "bank holiday" this year. Most federal employees and almost
all private employees had July 3 off this year.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.buyusa.gov/uk/en/us_bank_holidays.html
> > > >
> > > >
http://www.nowpublic.com/tech-biz/us-bank-holidays-2009-when-are-banks-closed
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Today is July 3, 2009, and as the Fourth of July July 3, 2009:
Independence Day Holiday Info and FAQ holiday falls on a Saturday this year,
that makes today a Federal holiday."
> > > >
> > > > From:
http://www.blippitt.com/july-3-2009-independence-day-holiday-info-and-faq
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In LIRRCommuters@yahoogroups.com, "orchlib" <orchestralibrary@>
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > With regard to the holiday-ness of July 3, we've covered some of that
on this board, but the federal government, at
http://www.opm.gov/operating_status_Schedules/fedhol/2009.asp said "July 4, 2009
(the legal public holiday for Independence Day), falls on a Saturday. For most
Federal employees, Friday, July 3, will be treated as a holiday for pay and
leave purposes."
> > > > >
> > > > > So, July 3 was not a legal public holiday, but most federal employees
treated July 3 as a holiday. It seems the RR couldn't decide which of the two
days - July 3 or July 4 - they were treating as a holiday. It would also seem
that the day with premium pay for holiday work was July 4, so maybe to them,
July 4 was the holiday.
> > > > >
> > > > > I know that I had mail delivery on the third but not on the fourth.
> > > > >
> > > > > The next time July 4 falls on a Saturday is 2015. Maybe the RR will
remember 2009 (hah!), figure out which trains they're running, and have them
properly crewed.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In LIRRCommuters@yahoogroups.com, "phil_yanks" <phil_yanks@>
wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They also forgot that July 3 was a "holiday" ;-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In LIRRCommuters@yahoogroups.com, "A. Stetson" <sligodashoe@>
wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm trying to understand what possible lack of oversight could
lead
> > > > > > > them to forget which schedule to operate, and I can't figure it
out.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I guess everyone should be happy that on Monday they remembered it
was
> > > > > > > a weekday.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://mta.info/lirr/News/2009/Montauk.htm
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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