how has response to the conference been so far?
I take it we need some ore umbers.
ed sharpe Glendale daily planet kkat-iptv
In a message dated 8/13/2007 5:17:30 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
toneill@... writes:
We're trying to do some guerrilla cyber-marketing for ProTrack 2007.
I'm looking for your inner geek or chapter members who resemble geeks
to help roam and troll the Internet for places to make appropriate
blog comments, (blog postings if you have one), forum postings, add
tags to social bookmarking sites, etc.
Are you that geek?
Contact Todd O'Neill, ProTrack 2007 Geek Wrangler
protrack2007.protrack20pro
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We're trying to do some guerrilla cyber-marketing for ProTrack 2007.
I'm looking for your inner geek or chapter members who resemble geeks
to help roam and troll the Internet for places to make appropriate
blog comments, (blog postings if you have one), forum postings, add
tags to social bookmarking sites, etc.
Are you that geek?
Contact Todd O'Neill, ProTrack 2007 Geek Wrangler
protrack2007.wordpress.com
From:
"Southwest Museum of Engineering, Communications and Computation" <COURYHOUSE@...> Date:
Sat Jul 15, 2006 8:07 pm Subject:Re: Joomla! CMS, RSS, etc. -
I see this was back in march this article.... be aware you need to
update from version 1 talk to me off list.
what has your experence been>
we are looking for differnt options for our chapter 44 site.
I am also looking for a CMS for the Communications and computation
museum www.smecc.org and also the glendale arizona news site
www.glendaledailyplanet.com
what have you determined about this cms? what other cms susytems is
anyone else using please provide links......
I would love to see implementation for news/ television/ newspaper
use
need info need info!
ed sharpe arhcivist for smecc
also chap. 44 webmaster
--- In MCA-I_Web_Design@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Jolly" <groups@...>
wrote:
>
> More than a year ago, we exchanged a few messages discussing content
> management and related issues. I've spent a little time looking into
> content management systems - not a comprehensive investigation - I
was
> very surprised at how many there are. But I've learned a little, and
> in spite of how little I know about this, I thought I would give a
> small report and maybe get some worthwhile feedback.
>
> I have been looking into an open source CMS called Joomla! (that's
not
> necessarily my enthusiasm showing - the exclaimation point is part
of
> the name - although I do have some guarded enthusiasm.) it's
> www.joomla.org if you'd like to check it out. On the left is a link
> called "Online Demo" which you can follow to log in to an online
site
> and modify or add some content on the site to see how it works.
>
> I've just put up a test site for the D/FW leadership group to try
out
> - There's not any real content yet, it's just there as an
introduction
> to the concept. But while the introducing was going on, I thought
> those in the web design group might like to see it, too. It's at
>
> www.jollymade.net/mcai/
>
> If you click on the "Administrator" button on the left, you can log
in
> with
>
> username temp and password temp .
>
> From there, feel free to add or modify any content there to give it
a try.
>
> I'm still at the beginning of learning this, but I think adopting
this
> for the D/FW chapter will have some advantages - First, and most
> important, any of our leadership group will be able to add or revise
> content - it won't have to always go through me or work around my
> unpredicable freelancer's workload or schedule. Joomla! allows 3
> levels of admin access and is smart about hiding the buttons that
> aren't accessable in a particular level of access. So our content,
> which is minimal except for meeting notices and promos for mca-i.org
> events, will be updated and revised sooner.
>
> Each bit of content is classified as public, registered, or special,
> so we wil have control over who can see each. (members-only content,
> for example) News items can be entered and given a beginning date
and
> ending date. (meeting promos just disapppear when they're obsolete -
> cool.) Banners are easy to manage and clicks can be tracked, as can
> clicks on each content item. Although I don't know how yet, it
seems
> that it's easy to insert those Google or Amazon ad boxes, for the
> commercially inclined.
>
> And related to that, the part that I think holds a lot of
> possibilities for mca-i and the local chapters, there are provisions
> for newsfeeds that are automatically added to the site pages, (I can
> imagine this integrating the international and the chapter websites
> more, in both directions) and users can subscribe to several kinds
of
> RSS-style syndication services. This can be a way for our local
> members to be notified of upcoming meetings and be alerted when new
> content is added, at the least, and I think there's much potential
> beyond that.
>
> Joomla! is open source (free) and seems to be actively growing.
> I've heard good things about Macromedia Contribute, which I know
some
> of you have used. ( I have seen it but not really used it.) I
> imagine Contribute may be easier for newbies to use. But it's now
$150
> per license, or $700 for 6, so there is the cost to consider. And
> though I haven't checked Contribute out lately, I think there are
some
> goodies in Joomla! that are not in Contribute's sphere.
>
> So check out the site, log in to admin as temp , temp, and check it
out.
>
> On a totally unrelated subject, e-commerce is not a new concept. Why
> do the years come and go, and we still can't re-up our memberships
> on-line?
>
> I look forward to thoughts and feedback. Thanks, all.
>
> Paul Jolly
> paul@...
>
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More than a year ago, we exchanged a few messages discussing content
management and related issues. I've spent a little time looking into
content management systems - not a comprehensive investigation - I was
very surprised at how many there are. But I've learned a little, and
in spite of how little I know about this, I thought I would give a
small report and maybe get some worthwhile feedback.
I have been looking into an open source CMS called Joomla! (that's not
necessarily my enthusiasm showing - the exclaimation point is part of
the name - although I do have some guarded enthusiasm.) it's
www.joomla.org if you'd like to check it out. On the left is a link
called "Online Demo" which you can follow to log in to an online site
and modify or add some content on the site to see how it works.
I've just put up a test site for the D/FW leadership group to try out
- There's not any real content yet, it's just there as an introduction
to the concept. But while the introducing was going on, I thought
those in the web design group might like to see it, too. It's at
www.jollymade.net/mcai/
If you click on the "Administrator" button on the left, you can log in
with
username temp and password temp .
From there, feel free to add or modify any content there to give it a try.
I'm still at the beginning of learning this, but I think adopting this
for the D/FW chapter will have some advantages - First, and most
important, any of our leadership group will be able to add or revise
content - it won't have to always go through me or work around my
unpredicable freelancer's workload or schedule. Joomla! allows 3
levels of admin access and is smart about hiding the buttons that
aren't accessable in a particular level of access. So our content,
which is minimal except for meeting notices and promos for mca-i.org
events, will be updated and revised sooner.
Each bit of content is classified as public, registered, or special,
so we wil have control over who can see each. (members-only content,
for example) News items can be entered and given a beginning date and
ending date. (meeting promos just disapppear when they're obsolete -
cool.) Banners are easy to manage and clicks can be tracked, as can
clicks on each content item. Although I don't know how yet, it seems
that it's easy to insert those Google or Amazon ad boxes, for the
commercially inclined.
And related to that, the part that I think holds a lot of
possibilities for mca-i and the local chapters, there are provisions
for newsfeeds that are automatically added to the site pages, (I can
imagine this integrating the international and the chapter websites
more, in both directions) and users can subscribe to several kinds of
RSS-style syndication services. This can be a way for our local
members to be notified of upcoming meetings and be alerted when new
content is added, at the least, and I think there's much potential
beyond that.
Joomla! is open source (free) and seems to be actively growing.
I've heard good things about Macromedia Contribute, which I know some
of you have used. ( I have seen it but not really used it.) I
imagine Contribute may be easier for newbies to use. But it's now $150
per license, or $700 for 6, so there is the cost to consider. And
though I haven't checked Contribute out lately, I think there are some
goodies in Joomla! that are not in Contribute's sphere.
So check out the site, log in to admin as temp , temp, and check it out.
On a totally unrelated subject, e-commerce is not a new concept. Why
do the years come and go, and we still can't re-up our memberships
on-line?
I look forward to thoughts and feedback. Thanks, all.
Paul Jolly
paul@...
Our website is due a major face lift. Several initiatives, such as
the integration of ProductionHub resources, MCA-I ProTrack
conferences, and our future plans for the University online, have
changed our priorities for "navigation" on the website. We need to
modify the top menus to reflex our new initiatives. We need many "eye
balls" to provide feedback and input ideas in order to make our
website meet the priorities of the membership.
As Chapter leaders, you can help by asking your members and,
specifically, your website team to collaborate by joining the
discussion on our eCommunity MCA-I_Web_Design listserv at:
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/MCA-I_Web_Design/
Or, just send a message to webteam@... with your comments.
Please review the top menus on all three portals:
http://www.mca-i.org/http://www.mca-i.org/members/http://www.mca-i.org/leaders/
Thanks Kenan and Todd. Lots of things to consider- If I get some
time to learn and come up with anything interesting, I'll send it
along... -pj
>_______________________________________________________________
>________________________________________________________________________
>
>Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 13:58:18 -0600
> From: "Kenan Doyle Branam" <kenan@...>
>Subject: Chapter Web site content management
>
>Paul and Todd,
>
>I have always envisioned a true network of links to and from mca-i.org and
>local chapter sites.
>
> Chapter website content pointed to from mca-i.org pages -
>
> This promotes very innovative chapters to the international audience and
>encourages members to show up with articles and expertise...even linking to
>members websites that provide media how-to's. These topics could be quite
>diverse from sharing best practices for chapter management <
>http://www.houston.mca-i.org/organ/ > to media techniques
><http://www.houston.mca-i.org/library/>.
>
>
> MCA-I.org resources linked directly from chapter sites -
>
> This channels and centralizes common issues to the international site.
>Do a search on mca-i.org site search and see what diverse topics you can
>find already. There is some depth here.
>
>When I have the time, I explore the possibilities of WebLogs and
>Wikipedia.com types of software technology. I can't say much about them yet,
>but I think we need to go there.
>
>For Content Management of mca-i.org, Connie T and I are beginning to use
>Macromedia's Contribute to share the work of updating pages. Setting up
>group permissions and page coding for specific access is really word
>processing simple. The cost is about $100 per seat.
>
>After all, technology is not the ultimate solution... individual
>participation is necessary to "manage the knowledge base" and provide a
>"voice" and "tone" to the content. We can share more than we do by
>understanding the basic principles of knowledge management, information
>commons, and community building.
>
>If a member is willing to gather, organize, edit/write, and manage their
>skill sets and expertise, the Web Team can find a place for it on the MCA-I
>network.
>
>
>
>Kenan Doyle Branam - <mailto:kenan@...> kenan@...
>Web Team Leader, Media Communications Association-International
> <http://www.mca-i.org/leaders/NationalCommittees/web_team/> http://www.
><http://www.mca-i.org/> mca-i.org/leaders/NationalCommittees/web_team/
>(713) 426-5854 Cell: (713) 857-3116
>
> <http://www.mca-i.org/>
>
>
--
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Jolly-Made Graphics
6014 Velasco Dallas, TX 75206
214-824-4678 (o) 214-533-2208 (m)
http://www.jollymade.com mailto:paul@...
Co-Host, Dallas Motion Graphics group - http://www.bigDmg.org
D/FW Chapter MCA-I Leadership Team - http://www.dfwmcai.org
Paul and Todd,
I have always envisioned a true network of links to and from mca-i.org and
local chapter sites.
Chapter website content pointed to from mca-i.org pages -
This promotes very innovative chapters to the international audience and
encourages members to show up with articles and expertise...even linking to
members websites that provide media how-to's. These topics could be quite
diverse from sharing best practices for chapter management <
http://www.houston.mca-i.org/organ/ > to media techniques
<http://www.houston.mca-i.org/library/>.
MCA-I.org resources linked directly from chapter sites -
This channels and centralizes common issues to the international site.
Do a search on mca-i.org site search and see what diverse topics you can
find already. There is some depth here.
When I have the time, I explore the possibilities of WebLogs and
Wikipedia.com types of software technology. I can't say much about them yet,
but I think we need to go there.
For Content Management of mca-i.org, Connie T and I are beginning to use
Macromedia's Contribute to share the work of updating pages. Setting up
group permissions and page coding for specific access is really word
processing simple. The cost is about $100 per seat.
After all, technology is not the ultimate solution... individual
participation is necessary to "manage the knowledge base" and provide a
"voice" and "tone" to the content. We can share more than we do by
understanding the basic principles of knowledge management, information
commons, and community building.
If a member is willing to gather, organize, edit/write, and manage their
skill sets and expertise, the Web Team can find a place for it on the MCA-I
network.
Kenan Doyle Branam - <mailto:kenan@...> kenan@...
Web Team Leader, Media Communications Association-International
<http://www.mca-i.org/leaders/NationalCommittees/web_team/> http://www.
<http://www.mca-i.org/> mca-i.org/leaders/NationalCommittees/web_team/
(713) 426-5854 Cell: (713) 857-3116
<http://www.mca-i.org/>
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Thanks, Todd, for some good information! I don't know much about blogs, but
I've
started to look into the subject a little. I'll continue to follow up on your
leads.
I'm basically wondering whether it's possible for our dfw site to be more than a
link to the
mothership site and a place to find the date for the next meeeting. We have some
good
content there, courtesy of Phil Stella and Bettye Pierce Zoller, and have had
some links to
local events we've been involved in, and promos for IO features. But in my mind
there's not
much other reason for anyone to go threre- there's certainly no critical mass of
current
information to being anyone there regularly. And none of us here in dfw has time
to
bootstrap our local site into something like the DV Handbook site you linked,
for example.
I picture the content as a combination of production techniques, business
issues, and
product reviews, and discussion, both from outside feeds and from local chapter
meetings.
So I'm thinking that the only way that the only way that's going to improve for
our site,
assuming it's a worthwhile goal, is to harness the technology to
semi-automatically bring
in some content.
Not to say that it's just about us in dfw. I expect this is an issue for any of
the local
chapter sites, and for the IO site as well. So there's also the question,
assuming other
chapters and the national org are interested, of how to synergize so that we all
get the
most benefit for the time and effort we would put into it. Would there be a
column on the
local site page populated by the RSS compilation, or a teaser with links to a
page on the
IO site where the content would be? Would it be good to have a members-only
variant and
link to some of the members-only content from the IO site and make it available
on the
local sites in a way that helps the local chapters present a better case for
joining?
I'm definitely fuzzy on these and plenty more questions, but I do feel that if
we in dfw are
going to have a bigger and better web presence, it's got to involve some of
these new
tools, and that if we don't take into account how we can help all the chapters
and the IO in
the process, we're missing the point of having an organization in the first
place.
Thanks all for being a sounding board.
pj
--- In MCA-I_Web_Design@yahoogroups.com, "Todd O'Neill" <toneill@s...> wrote:
> Paul
>
> Great idea!
>
> What kind of content would you want? There is article content on the
> national site that could be fed to chapters. You might also look for
> feeds at Syndic8 or moreover. Or a chapter member(s) could contribute
> to a blog.
>
> I found some video/media related blog feeds and a tool to display their
> RSS as HTML (http://www.geckotribe.com/rss/carp/)
>
> Here's the list of blog feeds.
>
> http://www.dvhandbook.com/
> http://www.emediacommunications.biz/blog/
> http://www.masternewmedia.org/presentation.htm (there are many feeds
> here)
> http://www.videoguys.com/blog
>
> It might also be interesting if Dick Reizner blogged his tips to clip.
>
> This is a simple way to put content on your site and it's FREE!
>
> p.s. Also check out creativecommons.org fro content or ways to publish
> content that is intended to be shared.
>
> Later!
>
> Todd O'Neill
> San Antonio, TX
> toneill@s...
>
> On Feb 16, 2005, at 3:14 PM, MCA-I_Web_Design@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > There is 1 message in this issue.
> >
> > Topics in this digest:
> >
> > 1. Expanded content on web sites
> > From: "Paul Jolly" <groups@j...>
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________________________________
> > _
> > _______________________________________________________________________
> > _
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 15:09:12 -0000
> > From: "Paul Jolly" <groups@j...>
> > Subject: Expanded content on web sites
> >
> >
> > Here's a subject that's a plenty big one, but here are my
> > thoughts/questions:
> >
> > Pat Christine, DFW president, has asked me about options for more and
> > quicker-
> > changing content on our site. Neither he or I have time to update the
> > site all day
> > long, so I first wondered: What would it take to update at least part
> > of the page from
> > an appropriate RSS feed or other automated system?
> >
> > My next thought was: What if mca-i.org originated such a feed that all
> > the chapter
> > websites could use?
> >
> > Does anybody here have experience in this area, and can you point me
> > in good
> > directions to find out more?
> >
> > Thanks - Paul Jolly
> > DFW Chapter Communications Committee
> > paul@j...
> >
> >
> >
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Great idea!
What kind of content would you want? There is article content on the
national site that could be fed to chapters. You might also look for
feeds at Syndic8 or moreover. Or a chapter member(s) could contribute
to a blog.
I found some video/media related blog feeds and a tool to display their
RSS as HTML (http://www.geckotribe.com/rss/carp/)
Here's the list of blog feeds.
http://www.dvhandbook.com/http://www.emediacommunications.biz/blog/http://www.masternewmedia.org/presentation.htm (there are many feeds
here)
http://www.videoguys.com/blog
It might also be interesting if Dick Reizner blogged his tips to clip.
This is a simple way to put content on your site and it's FREE!
p.s. Also check out creativecommons.org fro content or ways to publish
content that is intended to be shared.
Later!
Todd O'Neill
San Antonio, TX
toneill@...
On Feb 16, 2005, at 3:14 PM, MCA-I_Web_Design@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
>
> There is 1 message in this issue.
>
> Topics in this digest:
>
> 1. Expanded content on web sites
> From: "Paul Jolly" <groups@...>
>
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
> _
> _______________________________________________________________________
> _
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 15:09:12 -0000
> From: "Paul Jolly" <groups@...>
> Subject: Expanded content on web sites
>
>
> Here's a subject that's a plenty big one, but here are my
> thoughts/questions:
>
> Pat Christine, DFW president, has asked me about options for more and
> quicker-
> changing content on our site. Neither he or I have time to update the
> site all day
> long, so I first wondered: What would it take to update at least part
> of the page from
> an appropriate RSS feed or other automated system?
>
> My next thought was: What if mca-i.org originated such a feed that all
> the chapter
> websites could use?
>
> Does anybody here have experience in this area, and can you point me
> in good
> directions to find out more?
>
> Thanks - Paul Jolly
> DFW Chapter Communications Committee
> paul@...
>
>
>
>
>
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Here's a subject that's a plenty big one, but here are my thoughts/questions:
Pat Christine, DFW president, has asked me about options for more and quicker-
changing content on our site. Neither he or I have time to update the site all
day
long, so I first wondered: What would it take to update at least part of the
page from
an appropriate RSS feed or other automated system?
My next thought was: What if mca-i.org originated such a feed that all the
chapter
websites could use?
Does anybody here have experience in this area, and can you point me in good
directions to find out more?
Thanks - Paul Jolly
DFW Chapter Communications Committee
paul@...
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Why not create a technical SIG or arm for MCA-I anyway? Since it is all
merging, even media producers can benefit from the wealth of technical
knowledge. I think instructional design is another specialty MCA-I ought to
include in its knowledge base.
Dale Cornibe
----- Original Message -----
From: "toddoneill2001" <toneill@...>
To: <MCA-I_Web_Design@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 9:07 AM
Subject: [MCA-I_Web_Design] MCA-I Still Standing!
> The following message was sent to the Board, Executive Director and
> Past Presidents this morning. It regards the recent closure of the
> Association of Internet Professionals (AIP - association.org).
>
> Please read and urge your fellow chapter leaders, regional liasions,
> national board members and staff to seriously consider membership
> development in the web arm of the media communications profession.
>
> Apologies for the cross posting. Wanted to make sure I hit everyone.
> ===========================================
>
> Whoa!
>
> Remember IICS (International Interactive Communications Society)?
> They merged with the Association of Internet Professionals back in
> 1999(?) Oops, their bad!
>
> But, seriously, the demise of AIP leaves open an even bigger hole
> for development of the web producer prospect base. AIP is where
> these folks went.
>
> I would respectfully suggest that MCA-I get the word out, through
> AIP and other venues, that MCA-I is HERE -- ready, willing and able
> to serve the needs of the web media communications professional.
> Heck, offer their members a FREE transfer of membership just to get
> them on the rolls and prove what we can do for them.
>
> They have many chapters around the country. Many of their members
> are techy, but many are soft skill people like producers, designers,
> etc. This is a wide open door for membership development.
>
> Todd O'Neill
> MCA-I Past President, 2000-2001
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: aipaustin-admin@...
> [mailto:aipaustin-admin@...]On Behalf Of A.
> Pinzon -
> AIP
> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 10:59 AM
> To: Aipaustin List
> Subject: [aipaustin] The Future of AIP
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: aip_presidents-admin@...
> [mailto:aip_presidents-admin@...]On Behalf Of Ken
> Halbeck
> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 3:05 PM
> To: Aip_Presidents
> Subject: [aip_presidents] The Future of AIP
>
> To All AIP Leadership
>
> It is with deep regret that I send you this email to inform you of
> the
> future of the Association of Internet Professionals. Over the last 9
> years
> we have managed to survive the many ups and downs of our industry
> including
> all that came with the dotcom bomb.
>
> Regrettably because of the mismanagement of the previous leadership
> and
> contracted staff we have been unable to overcome the large debt and
> current
> legal issues that were incurred as a result of the management
> decisions made
> during that period. Subsequently as a result of this debt the AIP
> has been
> sued by several of its creditors and have received judgments for the
> monies
> due. In each case we tried to make reasonable payment arrangements
> based on
> the available income. Most recently we were also sued by a previous
> sales
> contractor and the State of California EDD for unpaid payroll taxes
> and a
> claim for $65000 in unpaid overtime. Recently we negotiated a
> settlement
> with the sales contractor but have yet to resolve the issue
> remaining of
> unpaid payroll taxes with the State of California EDD.
>
> It is because of these overwhelming odds, continual lawsuits for
> past debts,
> lack of revenue to keep us in business and many other business
> factors that
> the Association of Internet Professionals Board of Directors met and
> voted
> on Oct-3-2003 to dissolve the Association of Internet Professionals
> corporation. Since that day the majority of the Board of Directors
> have
> resigned from their board positions. In the passed motion the
> disillusionment of the corporation will be carried out by the
> remaining
> Executive Committee members. Insurance for all chapters will be in
> effect
> until October 31st 2003. All of the corporations remaining funds and
> assets
> including the chapter fund will be consolidated to settle with
> creditors.
> All Internet related services for AIP and its chapters will be
> discontinued
> effective Oct 31, 2003 and the AIP website will be taken offline.
> Your local
> membership list and email list will be provided to you upon request.
>
> Needless to say this decision effects me very deeply because of my
> personal
> commitment to this organization since its very beginnings. I have
> always
> believed in what it could be, and committed myself to volunteering
> to help
> make a difference. It is my sincerest hope to see something come
> from the
> ashes of this to help our industry and our local communities.
>
> Ken Halbeck
> Chairman: Association of Internet Professionals
>
>
>
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>
>
The following message was sent to the Board, Executive Director and
Past Presidents this morning. It regards the recent closure of the
Association of Internet Professionals (AIP - association.org).
Please read and urge your fellow chapter leaders, regional liasions,
national board members and staff to seriously consider membership
development in the web arm of the media communications profession.
Apologies for the cross posting. Wanted to make sure I hit everyone.
===========================================
Whoa!
Remember IICS (International Interactive Communications Society)?
They merged with the Association of Internet Professionals back in
1999(?) Oops, their bad!
But, seriously, the demise of AIP leaves open an even bigger hole
for development of the web producer prospect base. AIP is where
these folks went.
I would respectfully suggest that MCA-I get the word out, through
AIP and other venues, that MCA-I is HERE -- ready, willing and able
to serve the needs of the web media communications professional.
Heck, offer their members a FREE transfer of membership just to get
them on the rolls and prove what we can do for them.
They have many chapters around the country. Many of their members
are techy, but many are soft skill people like producers, designers,
etc. This is a wide open door for membership development.
Todd O'Neill
MCA-I Past President, 2000-2001
-----Original Message-----
From: aipaustin-admin@...
[mailto:aipaustin-admin@...]On Behalf Of A.
Pinzon -
AIP
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 10:59 AM
To: Aipaustin List
Subject: [aipaustin] The Future of AIP
-----Original Message-----
From: aip_presidents-admin@...
[mailto:aip_presidents-admin@...]On Behalf Of Ken
Halbeck
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 3:05 PM
To: Aip_Presidents
Subject: [aip_presidents] The Future of AIP
To All AIP Leadership
It is with deep regret that I send you this email to inform you of
the
future of the Association of Internet Professionals. Over the last 9
years
we have managed to survive the many ups and downs of our industry
including
all that came with the dotcom bomb.
Regrettably because of the mismanagement of the previous leadership
and
contracted staff we have been unable to overcome the large debt and
current
legal issues that were incurred as a result of the management
decisions made
during that period. Subsequently as a result of this debt the AIP
has been
sued by several of its creditors and have received judgments for the
monies
due. In each case we tried to make reasonable payment arrangements
based on
the available income. Most recently we were also sued by a previous
sales
contractor and the State of California EDD for unpaid payroll taxes
and a
claim for $65000 in unpaid overtime. Recently we negotiated a
settlement
with the sales contractor but have yet to resolve the issue
remaining of
unpaid payroll taxes with the State of California EDD.
It is because of these overwhelming odds, continual lawsuits for
past debts,
lack of revenue to keep us in business and many other business
factors that
the Association of Internet Professionals Board of Directors met and
voted
on Oct-3-2003 to dissolve the Association of Internet Professionals
corporation. Since that day the majority of the Board of Directors
have
resigned from their board positions. In the passed motion the
disillusionment of the corporation will be carried out by the
remaining
Executive Committee members. Insurance for all chapters will be in
effect
until October 31st 2003. All of the corporations remaining funds and
assets
including the chapter fund will be consolidated to settle with
creditors.
All Internet related services for AIP and its chapters will be
discontinued
effective Oct 31, 2003 and the AIP website will be taken offline.
Your local
membership list and email list will be provided to you upon request.
Needless to say this decision effects me very deeply because of my
personal
commitment to this organization since its very beginnings. I have
always
believed in what it could be, and committed myself to volunteering
to help
make a difference. It is my sincerest hope to see something come
from the
ashes of this to help our industry and our local communities.
Ken Halbeck
Chairman: Association of Internet Professionals
Hello,
The moderator of the Media_Web_Design group has changed the group's name.
This means that both the group's email address and the group home page
location have changed.
The group email address:
MCA-I_Web_Design@yahoogroups.com
The group home page location:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MCA-I_Web_Design
If you have links which point to this group or an address book entry
for the group, you should update them, as the old addresses will no
longer work.
Regards,
Yahoo! Groups Customer Care
Hello all!
It's time to start looking at the Public portion of the new web site and see if
we can break it, uh, I mean review it.
Here is a link: http://65.18.162.228/index.shtml
Please send your comments to me directly. Look at the pages, links and
functionality. The forms don't work quite yet, since they have no payment
gateway to go to...yet. (They will probably be stubbed to a mailing address
until that comes through.)
The home page is still in need of some content tweaking.
Let mw know what you find, what you like, what you hate -- actually, keep that
to yourself . ;-)
Shooting for a late Feb, early March launch.
Appreciate your help! Looking forward to your comments!
p.s. Member and Leader site are in the works.
Todd O'Neill, PMP
Web Project Wrangler
Media Communications Association-International
Web Producer
USAA
E-Business - Design Management
v. 210-913-8312
<mailto:todd.oneill@...> todd.oneill@...
The opinions expressed here are those of the author and do not necessarily
reflect those of USAA.
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"The only way of finding the limits of the possible is by going beyond them into
the impossible." --Arthur C. Clarke
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I will be out of the office from 12/23/2002 until 01/02/2003.
If you need to reach me immediately, page me at 877-455-5881. You can also
send a text message to my pager at 8774555881@....
Thank you.
What a way to kick off the new year! Jakob Nielsen reminding us what to do right
on the web!
Happy New Year!!
Todd O'Neill, PMP
Web Producer
USAA
E-Business - Design Management
v. 210-913-8312
todd.oneill@... <mailto:todd.oneill@...>
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the impossible." --Arthur C. Clarke
-----Original Message-----
From: Jakob Nielsen [mailto:alertbox@...]
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 4:00 PM
To: Alertbox Announcement List
Subject: Alertbox: Top Ten Web-Design Mistakes of 2002
Jakob Nielsen's Alertbox for December 23 is now online at:
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20021223.html
Summary:
Every year brings new mistakes. In 2002, several of the worst mistakes in
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Hello all!
We are in the final stages of putting together the new MCA-I website.
We are in need of a group of beta testers to test the links, content and
functionality. We especially need people to test functionality like the Renew
Your Membership form.
Please send your name and e-mail address to me by Friday, 12/13. The beta period
will run from approximately 12/16/2002 to 1/1/2003. You will be notified when to
begin to hit the site and how to report bugs, etc.
Thanks!
Todd O'Neill, PMP
Web Project Wrangler
Media Communications Association-International
Web Producer
USAA
E-Business - Design Management
v. 210-913-8312
<mailto:todd.oneill@...> todd.oneill@...
The opinions expressed here are those of the author and do not necessarily
reflect those of USAA.
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"The only way of finding the limits of the possible is by going beyond them into
the impossible." --Arthur C. Clarke
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I'll be happy to answer any particular questions you all might have. My request
was pretty complete though. Let me know what you need to know specifically.
Something not explicitly stated: this is a volunteer assignment.
Thanks!
Todd O'Neill, PMP
Web Project Wrangler
Media Communications Association-International
Web Producer
USAA
E-Business - Design Management
v. 210-913-8312
todd.oneill@... <mailto:todd.oneill@...>
The opinions expressed here are those of the author and do not necessarily
reflect those of USAA.
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"The only way of finding the limits of the possible is by going beyond them into
the impossible." --Arthur C. Clarke
Message: 2
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:23:25 -0800 (PST)
From: r r <shindoit@...>
Subject: Re: MCA-I site inventory assistance required
MORE INFOR PLS
"O'Neill, Todd" <todd.oneill@...> wrote:As part of the web site redesign
we need a few good people (3-6) to spend about 4-6 hours over the next 3 weeks
conducting an inventory of the current MCA-I website.
I will supply an Excel spreadsheet to enter the information for the sections of
the site that you inventory.
If you are doing ANY web design work currently a site inventory is in your
future, since more and more sites are going through redesigns and the only
effective way to do a redesign is know what's there already. (You can bank on
your clients not knowing everything that is on their site.) Here's a chance to
get some experience working on a site inventory at no risk to you and with the
added benefit of learning a process that you can then charge real clients for!
YOW! Such a deal!
TASK: mca-i.org site inventory
EFFORT: 4-6 hours total
DURATION: 3 weeks
DUE: 11/22
Contact me ASAP.
Todd O'Neill, PMP
Website Project Wrangler
Media Communications Association-International
Web Producer
USAA
E-Business - Design Management
v. 210-913-8312
<mailto:todd.oneill@...> todd.oneill@...
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As part of the web site redesign we need a few good people (3-6) to spend about
4-6 hours over the next 3 weeks conducting an inventory of the current MCA-I
website.
I will supply an Excel spreadsheet to enter the information for the sections of
the site that you inventory.
If you are doing ANY web design work currently a site inventory is in your
future, since more and more sites are going through redesigns and the only
effective way to do a redesign is know what's there already. (You can bank on
your clients not knowing everything that is on their site.) Here's a chance to
get some experience working on a site inventory at no risk to you and with the
added benefit of learning a process that you can then charge real clients for!
YOW! Such a deal!
TASK: mca-i.org site inventory
EFFORT: 4-6 hours total
DURATION: 3 weeks
DUE: 11/22
Contact me ASAP.
Todd O'Neill, PMP
Website Project Wrangler
Media Communications Association-International
Web Producer
USAA
E-Business - Design Management
v. 210-913-8312
<mailto:todd.oneill@...> todd.oneill@...
The opinions expressed here are those of the author and do not necessarily
reflect those of USAA.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"The only way of finding the limits of the possible is by going beyond them into
the impossible." --Arthur C. Clarke
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
We are at the beginning of our website redesign process and as part of the
rollout we are including the first MCA-I Privacy Policy.
We are seeking a small group of members to review the draft policy that has
been developed and suggest any additions, as well as tweak the language as
appropriate. Our objective is a policy the serves the needs of all members
and which is clear and understandable to everyone.
TASK: Finalize MCA-I Privacy Policy
RESOURCES: 3-4 members; conference calls (supplied); draft policy (supplied)
DURATION: 4 weeks; 1-2 hours a week per person
DUE DATE: November 1
Please contact me ASAP if you are interested in serving on this group or can
recommend someone to work on this important task.
Thanks!
Todd O'Neill, PMP
Web Project Wrangler
Past President (2001)
Media Communications Association-International
Web Producer
USAA
E-Business - Design Management
v. 210-913-8312
<mailto:todd.oneill@...> todd.oneill@...
The opinions expressed here are those of the author and do not necessarily
reflect those of USAA.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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into the impossible." --Arthur C. Clarke
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I will be out of the office from 09/17/2002 until 09/19/2002.
If you need to reach someone immediately, contact Maria Rodrigues at (310)
662-9646.
Thank you.
An interesting newsletter and lead article on classification.
Todd O'Neill, PMP
Web Producer
USAA
E-Business - Design Management
v. 210-913-8312
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NEW THINKING NEW THINKING NEW THINKING NEW THINKING NEW THINKING
By Gerry McGovern http://www.gerrymcgovern.com
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September 16, 2002 - Volume 7 Number 34
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CALLING ALL LOYAL AUSTRALIAN READERS!
I hope you've enjoyed reading this newsletter over the years.
Well, I'm coming to Australia! Being Irish, it's a place I've
always wanted to visit. The Australian Computer Society has
been very kind to offer me an invite for next March.
(Thanks Kate Behan and Pat Taylor!)
There will be a series of content management workshops and
talks across Australia. If you might have an interest in
the following, please drop me an email:
* Attending one of the workshops or talks
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* Organizing some media interviews/articles
* Getting content management consulting for your organization
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INFORMATION ARCHITECTURE: A WORKSHOP APPROACH TO
CLASSIFICATION DESIGN
After having completed your classification situation analysis,
you will have a long list of potential classifications. Now,
you need to choose what the top-level of your classification
will be. This is an iterative process that will require
substantial feedback and interaction. It should not be rushed.
To get a quality result, classification design requires a
workshop approach. Keep in mind the following when running
classification workshops:
* Make sure that the right people are involved. Your top-level
classification is one of the most important elements on your
homepage. It is critical that all key stakeholders are
involved in deciding what it should be.
* An editor should run the workshops. The fundamentals of
classification are editorial, not technical. Choosing what
classification should go at the top, and what it should be
named, is a publishing issue. It should be managed by
someone who understands publishing.
* Avoid religious debates about classification terms.
Sometimes, people can have their own pet terms and get into
heated debate defending them.
* Don't get carried away. Always be rigorous and realistic
about the classifications you choose.
* Champion the reader, the author and the organization's
objectives.
* Visualize the proposed classification as quickly as
possible. Do a basic mock-up of the homepage and place
the prospective classifications in the left column.
The initial classification workshop should address a number
of key issues, including:
* Agreeing the number of levels for the classification.
Ideally, you should have no more than three levels.
* Agreeing the range of classifications at any particular
level. You shouldn't have more than 15 classifications at
any one level.
* Agreeing the classification order approach. Are
classifications going to be ordered alphabetically, or based
on their importance?
* Deciding on style issues. Is capitalization to be used for
all classification words? Is the ampersand (&) going to be
used instead of "and".
* Agreeing the classification options
One of the most important decisions you will make is deciding on
the classification options you require. Remember, the beauty of
web-based classification is that you can multiple-classify. This
allows the reader a variety of navigation options so that they
can find the content they need just the way they want to find it.
However, keep in mind that the more classification options you
choose, the more cost and effort will be involved in classifying
content, and the more complex it will be to design the navigation.
The following are potential classification options:
* Subject: This is a classic approach to classification. Here,
you organize your content based on defined subjects. Perhaps
the best known subject classification is the Yahoo
classification.
* Task: Task classification focuses on the type of reader that
comes to your website, and what they want to do. For example,
a holiday website has the following task-oriented
classification: Shop-A-Holic, Winter Warrior, Trail Blazer.
* Geographic: Consider using geographic classification where
you have content that is geographic specific.
* Date: Date classification is useful where you are publishing
a specific type of content on a regular basis. For example,
the company newsletter. Classifying it by date will allow you
to better organize what will be a substantial quantity of
content.
Next issue: using card sorting to choose your classifications
Gerry McGovern
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As part of the MCA-I website redesign project we are looking for your input!
We are trying to gather examples of well designed sites that you have come
across.
This could be:
- visual design: what the site looks like
- information design: how the site is organized
- navigational design: how you get from place to place in a site
- functional design: how you do thinks on the site like searching, filling
out forms, etc.
Send us the URL and a sentence or two about what you like about the site.
Send your URLs and sentences to: mcai@... <mailto:mcai@...> . This
is a temporary e-mail alias that will go to all members of the project team.
Looking forward to hearing from you soon!
Todd O'Neill, PMP
Website Project Wrangler
Past President (2001)
Media Communications Association-International
Web Producer
USAA
E-Business - Design Management
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