Its worth noting that the "Grove" series names on the former SP cars were applied by Amtrak and not SP. The cars were unnamed while on their former owner. -- ...
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R. Todd Minsk
todd03755
Jun 15, 2012 7:18 pm
In Signor and Kirchner, The Southern Pacific of Mexico and the West Coast Route (Golden West Books, 1987), the following information appears, on page 53: "The...
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Hector Lara
laratramex
Jun 16, 2012 4:09 am
FC Interoceánico had a 3¨reefer, as well as Mexico City had a two trucksTrolley reefer....
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Nicholas Burman
btransco
Jun 16, 2012 4:12 am
During WWII (and especially after the completion of the bridge into Guatemala) PFE reefers were seen as far south as Cuidad Tecun Umán; there was a wartime...
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Ronald
rwystation
Jun 18, 2012 12:22 am
Years ago, I created a database for "Today In U.S. Railroad History" for my old web site. I'm working on updating and expanding the data to include North...
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John Fiscella
jmf1944
Jun 18, 2012 12:44 pm
A lot of those topics are covered in John Kirchner's books: "Southern Pacific of Mexico" and "Baja California Railroads." John Fiscella...
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jd rodriguez
dodgerblue_4...
Jun 18, 2012 6:28 pm
Hello Todd Sorry for my late replay I was away from my computer, Thank you for sharing this information I do have some photos of Mexican Beer Cars some might...
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lowellgmcmanus
Jun 18, 2012 7:07 pm
I have received a private message from a MEXLIST member stating that the rights to four beer car photos that were attached to a recent post are property of...
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frank barry
fb12@...
Jun 18, 2012 8:52 pm
Jonathan-- Yes, reefers were certainly used to move fruit-- PFE (Pacific Fruit Express) reefers were used to ship cantaloupes (melones) from Apatzingan to the...
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Salvador GarcÃa
s_garcia7
Jun 18, 2012 10:15 pm
jd rodriguez dodgerblue_4life@... wrote I do have some photos of Mexican Beer Cars some might just be regular boxcars however you can see the reefer...
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Hector Lara
laratramex
Jun 19, 2012 12:19 am
Just a few: 1830 George louis Hammmecken places a track from his cotton fields to Galveston wharfs, still Ciudad Gálvez, Tejas. 16-sept-1850 first day of...
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William Bryk
wmbryk
Jun 19, 2012 5:37 am
I wish to commend Sr. Lara for sharing these five images with us. I was previously unaware of these dates and the images. The dates are important; the images...
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Hector Lara
laratramex
Jun 20, 2012 3:41 am
For being paintings they are very accurate; more dates 8-sept-1865Â Chalco Rwy section from Bucareli to Tacubaya 25.feb.1866Â Same from Tacubaya to Mixcoac ...
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Ronald
rwystation
Jun 20, 2012 8:38 pm
Excellent!. I've been picking up a few dates - mostly major accidents unfortunately. I'll post here when I've had a chance to edit them....
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Lowell G. McManus
lowellgmcmanus
Jun 20, 2012 10:33 pm
The first Mexican National rail bridge between Laredo and Nuevo Laredo opened on November 20, 1881. Lowell G. McManus Eagle Pass, Texas, USA...
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Salvador GarcÃa
s_garcia7
Jun 21, 2012 4:19 pm
The urban railroads also have their own history. Â The first electric trams in Mexico City started operations on January 15th, 1900. Â The Mexico City Subway...
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Salvador GarcÃa
s_garcia7
Jun 21, 2012 4:47 pm
What is probably the worst accident in the history of mexican railroads, in terms of loss of human lives, occurred on October 5th, 1972, in Puente Moreno, a...
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Nathan Muhlethaler
natemuhl1
Jun 21, 2012 6:10 pm
What happened in this accident? I assume it involved a passenger train. I don't think I've ever heard this story. Thanks, Nate ... What happened in this...
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Salvador GarcÃa
s_garcia7
Jun 22, 2012 2:11 am
Yes Nate. That accident involved a passenger train which running from Real de Catorce (SanLuis PotosÃ)Â to Saltillo (Coahuila). Â It was a special train full...
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Francisco Rosete
francisco.ro...
Jun 22, 2012 2:11 am
I have a question about logistics. It seems to me that many of these railroads started in Mexico city, which is very far from the coast and is 2240 M above sea...
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Juan M Celorio
maltrata2005
Jun 22, 2012 2:15 am
Con esta fecha, el "Museo de los Ferrocarriles de Yucatán" ha donado el fondo documental ferrocarrilero - que durante varios años resguardó - al ...
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Hector Lara
laratramex
Jun 22, 2012 2:16 am
Was so bad they buried the whole train and corpses, usual mexican brutality... ... From: Nathan Muhlethaler <natemuhl@...> Subject: Re: [MEXLIST]...
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John Benson
realmrslides
Jun 22, 2012 4:06 am
Thanks for the photos. I see GP40 8405 was involved in the wreck. It was rebuilt as I photogrpahed it at SLP in 1979.  John C. Benson Mr. Slides® ...
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Salvador García
s_garcia7
Jun 22, 2012 7:40 pm
Every year, around the 5th of October, several articles about Puente Moreno Accident appear in newspapers of Saltillo. Also some special programs are...
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schumimex
csch2mx
Jun 22, 2012 9:05 pm
No sense, probably the worst accident involving passangers! and a shame the goverment as ussual minnimise the numbers!...
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Hector Lara
laratramex
Jun 22, 2012 11:06 pm
Since 1830 Manuel Escandón developed Stage wagon lines and heavy freight wagons along the Caminos reales to move besides steam machinery for Mines, Textile...
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Hector Lara
laratramex
Jun 22, 2012 11:07 pm
Before the XXth. Cty, very fer RR were Std. ga....
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R. Todd Minsk
todd03755
Jun 22, 2012 11:09 pm
All these are very interesting and useful data for historians. I would like to suggest that the sources of information be cited (original sources if possible)...
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Nathan Muhlethaler
natemuhl1
Jun 23, 2012 1:30 am
I updated my Mexican Railroads site with a couple of reports from my late 2011 trip through central and southern Mexico. Unfortunately, this was a shorter...
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Doug Cummings
ihp98230
Jun 25, 2012 3:06 pm
Apparently 3008 is the old 8520, which was to have become 3012 but was moved to 3008 to fill the gap created by the scrapping of 1308. Doug This could be...
