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#726 From: "timplatt532" <timplatt532@...>
Date: Thu Feb 4, 2010 7:31 pm
Subject: Paying it forward with job search and business social networking information
timplatt532
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If you are looking for more than catch phrase bullet points to help you with a
job search, one resource you have and for free is the series on best practices I
have been assembling through my blog at:
Guide to Effective Job Search and Career Development
http://plattperspective.wordpress.com/guide-to-effective-job-search-and-career-d\
evelopment/

I offer this as a free resource and as an act of paying it forward in my
business networking.

I also post to a series on social networking and business at:
http://plattperspective.wordpress.com/social-networking-and-business/

on working with startups and early stage businesses at:
http://plattperspective.wordpress.com/startups-and-early-stage-businesses/

and on other areas where I am professionally involved.  I would be happy to
LinkedIn connect and am looking forward to discussing any area or issue where I
may be of help to you or your business.

Thanks, Tim Platt

Timothy Platt, Ph.D.
http://www.linkedin.com/in/timothyplatt
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#727 From: Marc Freedman <marc@...>
Date: Tue Mar 9, 2010 5:57 pm
Subject: Hardcore - a better way to network
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Friends,

I announce Hardcore Networking below and highlight two items first:
  • The program is phone and web-based.  So you don't need to be in Dallas.  ANYONE can register and call in. 
  • One of the specific meetings is Hardcore Social Media & LinkedIn on Tuesday 4pm ET, 3pm CT, 1pm PT It's a great way to present to and talk with fellow LinkedIn members, and get answers to your LinkedIn questions.
Marc

_______

I am sooo frustrated with live meetings.  You can invest $50 or more, plus 3 hours with travel, for lunches, seminars, and happy hours ... only to end up talking with just a few people. 30 second pitches are, well, sales pitches.  They're not real and it's difficult to follow up with more than one person in a room full of people. Exchanging contact info is painful. You get it only from the people you talk to and it's in the form of archaic business cards. 

At the end of the month it's easy to spend hundreds of dollars with little to show for it. There has to be a better way. 

These events are great for education and socializing, but lousy for networking and new leads and contacts. So I designed and am pleased to announce Hardcore Networking.  It simply delivers the best networking experience.  You will make MORE business contacts ... MORE effectively ... at LESS cost ... in LESS time.

Hardcore meetings are held via phone and web.  They are limited to 10 attendees.  So you're guaranteed at least 5-10 minutes to present you and your business and what you can do. It's plenty of time to tell your story, be memorable, share what you seek, and get immediate help or suggestions.

You'll network directly and in depth with several other business executives and professionals. Ask for leads, sell your service, pitch an idea, find a partner, ask a question, share a problem, or whatever you need to get ahead.  

We have Hardcore meetings for a variety of areas - Careers, Small Business, Social Media & LinkedIn, Marketing & Sales, Consulting, Tech, Internet, and Entrepreneurs.  So you're sure to find one ... or a few ... that are right for your business.  

The economics are astounding.  When you add up all the costs of a typical meeting, they end up costing you $9-15 per contact.  Hardcore is just $1-2 per contact.  Each Hardcore meeting is only $9.  Or for the price of ONE typical networking event you can get unlimited Hardcore meetings for $33 ALL MONTH.

If you need new or stronger business contacts for leads, partners, referrals, promotion, tips, collaboration, support, or recruiting, then sign up now at Hardcore Networking.com.  All meetings are FREE during our launch next week.  

Building Your Business Success,

Marc Freedman


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#728 From: Marc Freedman <marc@...>
Date: Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:23 am
Subject: South Park
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South Park does Facebook & Chatroulette.  Very funny.  Just substitute LinkedIn for Facebook.

http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/267112/

If you're not in the US, you may not be able to play it.  Try Gawker.tv highlights here.

Enjoy!
Marc



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#729 From: Marc Freedman <marc@...>
Date: Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:11 am
Subject: You have your LinkedIn connections list. Now what?
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You may even have used LinkedIn Contact Manager to add fields like location and profession. What would you like to do with this data???

I'm developing a contact manager for networkers and small businesses. We'll be taking a different approach from the excellent LinkedIn Contact Manager and WeMeUs Relationship and Lead Manager.  Our focus will be empowering you to leverage your contacts.

I appreciate your feedback.  It will help our development.  If you don't make any suggestions, you can't possibly see them developed for you.  What pain, needs, and ideas in this area do you have that would make your life easier?

Also let me know if you're interested in being one of our private alpha testers.

Marc


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#730 From: Marc Freedman <marc@...>
Date: Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:33 pm
Subject: Bitly LinkedIn tips, Daily Deals question
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Enter a LinkedIn url and Bitly now gives you a linkd.in URL that you can customize.  Use it for a shortened link to your LI profile.   For example - http://linkd.in/marcfreedman .  

I wrote about Daily Deals or Group Buying in my blog at  I Can Get It For You Wholesale.  A question has come up on its use for licensed professionals. It would appear to be Fee Splitting and therefore unethical for them to advertise.  But I’ve seen dentists and chiropractors in Groupon, as well as cosmetic surgeons and MDs (but no lawyers or psychologists yet).  So how can they advertise on these sites if they’re prevented by fee splitting?

Know a dentist, lawyer, doctor, or other licensed professional? Or are you one? What’s your take? The LinkedIn discussion is at http://linkd.in/b6tn36 .

Marc

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#731 From: Marc Freedman <marc@...>
Date: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:28 pm
Subject: Getting ahead in the office: Sex, yes; LinkedIn, no
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Adecco Staffing survey of US workers says 6% would connect to boss on LinkedIn, while 9% would have a fling to advance their careers.

#732 From: Marc Freedman <marc@...>
Date: Sat Oct 30, 2010 11:08 pm
Subject: LinkedIn Employees say: “It Gets Better”
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Bravo to LinkedIn!

The LinkedIn Blog

The LinkedIn Blog



LinkedIn Employees say: “It Gets Better”

Posted: 29 Oct 2010 10:00 AM PDT

At LinkedIn, we’ve been so inspired by the It Gets Better Project and are very proud to add our employees’ voices into the conversation. Amidst our 80 million members are countless examples of people who have proven that it truly does get better. Sexual orientation has no impact on someone’s ability to contribute to an organization.  What we’ve learned through this campaign is that it is definitely worth it to hang on through challenging periods in order to discover how your personal experiences can contribute to the world. Here are a few of our employees who did just that.  And, we are so glad they did.



Filed under: LinkedIn for Good


#733 From: "stanrelihan" <srelihan@...>
Date: Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:53 am
Subject: Is LinkedIn playing Games with Power Users again?
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It's interesting to note that the vast majority (over 80%) of the
TopLinked Top50 list have opted to be Free, rather than Premium
LinkedIn users (as I have)

As one of those folks (like you) who have helped LinkedIn grow, I find
out that LinkedIn doesn't really care about me at all - in fact they
resent 'Power Users' like you and me.

I USED to be a Premium User - and in fact, through my Podcast series
on The Connections Show (www.tinyurl.com/ConnectionsPodcast) used to
be an ardent evangelist for more people to support LinkedIn by
becoming Premium Users.

The reasons for this were twofold:

1) I believe(d) that if you're getting benefit from LinkedIn, it's
probably a good idea to support it financially, so it can grow and
prosper.

2) By paying for the service, I had a right to expect a certain level
of service. (compared to free users who just had to expect whatever
LinkedIn chose to provide)

It seems I was wrong - and ultimately, poor Customer Service,
unanswered emails & unresolved problems led me to downgrade my paid
account to a free one, in protest.

Initially, this was only supposed to be for a month or two - but
ongoing service difficulties etc have given me no reason to change my
position.

Now they're pulling their stunts again - this time with LinkedIn
Search. I am no longer able to search my 1st & 2nd Degree connections.

All results now show up as 3rd level connections only.

In the panel on the left, the 1st & 2nd level connections are showing
up as greyed out. (with 0 connections). However all my results are
showing up in either Groups or 3rd + Everyone else.

Are you having the same problem??

Stan Relihan

#734 From: Marc Freedman <marc@...>
Date: Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:34 am
Subject: Re: Is LinkedIn playing Games with Power Users again?
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Stan,

I get the same thing.  While I'm as sensitive to LI's tricks as you, this one looks like a bug because, in one example, a user is shown as a 3rd level contact in search results but a direct connection when her profile is viewed.  I assume they'll fix that.

Best Regards,
Marc


stanrelihan wrote On 11/24/2010 11:53 PM:
 

It's interesting to note that the vast majority (over 80%) of the
TopLinked Top50 list have opted to be Free, rather than Premium
LinkedIn users (as I have)

As one of those folks (like you) who have helped LinkedIn grow, I find
out that LinkedIn doesn't really care about me at all - in fact they
resent 'Power Users' like you and me.

I USED to be a Premium User - and in fact, through my Podcast series
on The Connections Show (www.tinyurl.com/ConnectionsPodcast) used to
be an ardent evangelist for more people to support LinkedIn by
becoming Premium Users.

The reasons for this were twofold:

1) I believe(d) that if you're getting benefit from LinkedIn, it's
probably a good idea to support it financially, so it can grow and
prosper.

2) By paying for the service, I had a right to expect a certain level
of service. (compared to free users who just had to expect whatever
LinkedIn chose to provide)

It seems I was wrong - and ultimately, poor Customer Service,
unanswered emails & unresolved problems led me to downgrade my paid
account to a free one, in protest.

Initially, this was only supposed to be for a month or two - but
ongoing service difficulties etc have given me no reason to change my
position.

Now they're pulling their stunts again - this time with LinkedIn
Search. I am no longer able to search my 1st & 2nd Degree connections.

All results now show up as 3rd level connections only.

In the panel on the left, the 1st & 2nd level connections are showing
up as greyed out. (with 0 connections). However all my results are
showing up in either Groups or 3rd + Everyone else.

Are you having the same problem??

Stan Relihan


#735 From: John Stephen Veitch <john.s.veitch@...>
Date: Thu Nov 25, 2010 8:43 pm
Subject: Re: Is LinkedIn playing Games with Power Users again?
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My reason for paying a fee is to get the opportunity to search for more people in a single search. I imagined that the Inmails would be useful too.

I find that I don't use the Inmails. I've currently got about 45 in reserve.
Besides the reporting system on Inmails isn't working. I can't track the Inmails I've sent. I get the impression that they don't work very well.

I'm also in a situation where LinkedIn won't let me connect to anyone else via another user. Essentially unless the person I want to connect to shares a group with me, I have to send an Inmail to make contact. A possible alternative is that the member makes an email address available, but most don't.

So I'm not happy about the level of service I'm getting. Just for the moment, I'm trapped into continuing to pay. But that will change.

John S Veitch
The Network Ambassador



#736 From: Marc Freedman <marc@...>
Date: Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:15 pm
Subject: Where's the meet?
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(For the non-US or younger folks, this is a nod to the old Wendy's commercial with Clara Peller's famous line "Where's the beef" adjusted for LinkedIn from beef to meat to meet.  Yeah, maybe reaching too far for too little.)

John, thanks for the feedback.  Let me add a few points.  I look forward to what others have to say.

AMBASSADOR-LESS.  I too was a paying customer.  Ironic that many of us are active ambassadors.  Instead of LinkedIn giving US thanks of any kind, they antagonize or at best ignore us and expect us to accept it and pay them.  What's wrong with that equation?  It took me a few years of inertia to get over that!

OUT-MAIL.  While a contact is worth $2-5 on the open market.  InMails are NOT.  They are not the same.  You don't get email or phone.  It requires the recipient to be current on LinkedIn and an active user. 

PAY-LESS.  I finally canceled my subscription.  Perhaps it would be different if I regularly used LI for search and contact.  But I don't.  InMails have limited value as above.  Customer service was uneven.   I don't see growth in its core networking product.  The value simply wasn't there.  I have not missed not being a paying customer.  They have done nothing to attract me in coming back.

GROUPS.  As I predicted years ago, groups are becoming increasingly valuable to make direct contacts, bypassing the normal LinkedIn Intro/InMail routes.  While they're good for overall users numbers, I think they actually hurt premium users.  LI has not created any new premium-only features in this area.

BEEF-LESS.  LinkedIn is profitable, has a monopolist position and a monster valuation.  So their free/premium formula has worked.  Why do they screw with that?

As Stan notes, they keep reducing features.  But it doesn't just affect "power' users, but ALL users.  Instead of moving low-value frilly stuff from free to fee, like updates, Q&A, Twitter, etc., they cut CORE network features, like the view, size, and access to the network.  It's sad.  What kind of product vision is THAT?!?  Instead of removing features, they should develop valuable NEW core features to justify paying.

Well, I've been writing this for 5 years now.  Nothing has changed.   Rant's over.  My two cents anyway.

Happy Thanksgiving to all!
Marc


John Stephen Veitch wrote On 11/25/2010 2:43 PM:
 

My reason for paying a fee is to get the opportunity to search for more people in a single search.  I imagined that the Inmails would be useful too.

I find that I don't use the Inmails. I've currently got about 45 in reserve.
Besides the reporting system on Inmails isn't working. I can't track the Inmails I've sent. I get the impression that they don't work very well.

I'm also in a situation where LinkedIn won't let me connect to anyone else via another user. Essentially unless the person I want to connect to shares a group with me, I have to send an Inmail to make contact. A possible alternative is that the member makes an email address available, but most don't.

So I'm not happy about the level of service I'm getting. Just for the moment, I'm trapped into continuing to pay. But that will change.

John S Veitch
The Network Ambassador



#737 From: Marc Freedman <marc@...>
Date: Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:59 pm
Subject: Mediocrity & the beast that can't be stopped
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Can Anything Stop The Facebook Juggernaut?  features the comment "I dislike Facebook because they’re mediocre. They have a platform and opportunity unlike anyone else, ever—and what have they done with it? Nothing." ... and  the conclusion that it is "mindbogglingly gargantuan, relentlessly mediocre, and almost inescapable"

That's essentially exactly what I wrote about LinkedIn 4 years ago when it was the de facto business social  network.  Nothing has changed. It's the same today as LI continues its own march past 85 million users, saturates, the U.S.,  invades the world, and adds frills but little meat and no innovation.

Do you agree?  Is LinkedIn, like Facebook, the beast that "can't be stopped"?  Is there any chance of a backlash or alternative?

Marc

#738 From: "pv7721" <pv7721@...>
Date: Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:24 am
Subject: Re: Mediocrity & the beast that can't be stopped
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Hi Marc

Unfortunately, the European LI concurrence (Viadeo (French) and Xing (German)
are way too small, and the free account versions are way too restrictive, even
more restrictive that what LI are nowadays (not sure if you received my email
where I had pointed out a new LI limitation for free accounts: certain 3 degree
accounts had family names replaced with initials, and one had to become a
premium in order to see full name.

Another problem for the European competition is just that: they're European, so
they're competing with each other, and more targeted to local users: Viadeo is
most used in France, and Xing in German-speaking countries (Germany and
Austria). So it's not uncommon to receive invitation and messages in German...
Another weakness, that at least Xing has, is that they had gone public, maybe a
little too soon (so now their stock isn't doing so great).

It's funny, as the article you've pointed out speaks about Facebook, don't you
feel how low LI has gone, becoming more and more like FB? They've integrated
useless FB features, like status, sharing it, following, Twitter integration
etc. etc.

My 2c

Vlad
http://www.linkedin.com/in/vladimirpacuraru

#739 From: Marc Freedman <marc@...>
Date: Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:34 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Mediocrity & the beast that can't be stopped
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Vlad,

Excellent points.  I love the phrase "Concurrence."  Sounds like a galactic empire, though quite the opposite here.  I'd add Ecademy out of  the UK to the European Concurrence. 

The LI frills are a defensive move.  By coping FB, they keep it out of LI territory.  That's worked ... but to the detriment of the core service, which is neglected.

Historically a weakness of the Concurrence and other competitors has been the relative openness of LI.  With no product advantage and no strategic vision, and unable to innovate beyond LI, the Concurrence has limited room to operate, confined to focusing on the home field.  As LI restricts its free services, it's an opportune time for them to open their networks for competitive advantage.   ...  Of course if you already have 25 million people within 3 degrees like me, your personal network is already bigger than the Concurrence.  So opening up just keeps pace as opposed to putting you ahead!

Marc



pv7721 wrote On 11/27/2010 5:24 AM:
 

Hi Marc

Unfortunately, the European LI concurrence (Viadeo (French) and Xing (German) are way too small, and the free account versions are way too restrictive, even more restrictive that what LI are nowadays (not sure if you received my email where I had pointed out a new LI limitation for free accounts: certain 3 degree accounts had family names replaced with initials, and one had to become a premium in order to see full name.

Another problem for the European competition is just that: they're European, so they're competing with each other, and more targeted to local users: Viadeo is most used in France, and Xing in German-speaking countries (Germany and Austria). So it's not uncommon to receive invitation and messages in German... Another weakness, that at least Xing has, is that they had gone public, maybe a little too soon (so now their stock isn't doing so great).

It's funny, as the article you've pointed out speaks about Facebook, don't you feel how low LI has gone, becoming more and more like FB? They've integrated useless FB features, like status, sharing it, following, Twitter integration etc. etc.

My 2c

Vlad
http://www.linkedin.com/in/vladimirpacuraru


#740 From: "StevenB" <steven.burda.mba@...>
Date: Sun Nov 28, 2010 7:59 pm
Subject: Re: Where's the meet?
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Yep, that's Linkedin for you!

- Steven Burda
Sunday, 11-28-2010

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#741 From: "Lonny Gulden" <lonny@...>
Date: Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:37 pm
Subject: RE: Is LinkedIn playing Games with Power Users again?
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I’m a Business Level client and have not experienced the problems you report.

 

 

Lonny J. Gulden

ChiefConnectionsOfficer.com Web: www.chiefconnectionsofficer.com

O: 952.829.7828 Email: lonny@...

M: 612.867.3560 LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/linkedinninja

F: 904.212.9233 Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/linkedinninja

 


From: MyLinkNetwork@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MyLinkNetwork@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of stanrelihan
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 11:53 PM
To: MyLinkNetwork@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MyLinkNetwork] Is LinkedIn playing Games with Power Users again?

 

 

It's interesting to note that the vast majority (over 80%) of the
TopLinked Top50 list have opted to be Free, rather than Premium
LinkedIn users (as I have)

As one of those folks (like you) who have helped LinkedIn grow, I find
out that LinkedIn doesn't really care about me at all - in fact they
resent 'Power Users' like you and me.

I USED to be a Premium User - and in fact, through my Podcast series
on The Connections Show (www.tinyurl.com/ConnectionsPodcast) used to
be an ardent evangelist for more people to support LinkedIn by
becoming Premium Users.

The reasons for this were twofold:

1) I believe(d) that if you're getting benefit from LinkedIn, it's
probably a good idea to support it financially, so it can grow and
prosper.

2) By paying for the service, I had a right to expect a certain level
of service. (compared to free users who just had to expect whatever
LinkedIn chose to provide)

It seems I was wrong - and ultimately, poor Customer Service,
unanswered emails & unresolved problems led me to downgrade my paid
account to a free one, in protest.

Initially, this was only supposed to be for a month or two - but
ongoing service difficulties etc have given me no reason to change my
position.

Now they're pulling their stunts again - this time with LinkedIn
Search. I am no longer able to search my 1st & 2nd Degree connections.

All results now show up as 3rd level connections only.

In the panel on the left, the 1st & 2nd level connections are showing
up as greyed out. (with 0 connections). However all my results are
showing up in either Groups or 3rd + Everyone else.

Are you having the same problem??

Stan Relihan


#742 From: Marc Freedman <marc@...>
Date: Fri Dec 3, 2010 8:14 pm
Subject: Share This - LinkedIn continues to lust after Facebook
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LinkedIn continues its derivative copycat strategy with Share This (TechCrunch article).  As a corporate strategy, LI has to be "like" Facebook to defend its turf from FB juggernaut incursion.  As a marketing strategy, deeper integration with the online world builds LI's brand and reaches a larger audience that can be converted to users and paying subs. 

But let's be clear.  It's NOT a product strategy.  As LI focuses on marketing and other frills, it continues to neglect the core networking product that is little changed, and in fact is continually restricted, over the years, an area where LI feels little heat from users, competitors, or investors.

What do you you think?

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#743 From: "The Recruiting Guy" <chris@...>
Date: Sat Dec 4, 2010 3:29 am
Subject: RE: Share This - LinkedIn continues to lust after Facebook
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Agree, not the same format nor network true professionals are looking to interact. I think LI is taking pieces that they feel make sense but overall are “me too” in the now incestuous world of social media…someone may just come along and buy up all the major network to combine them into one…ha!

 

TGIF

Chris

 

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Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 3:15 PM
To: mylinknetwork-yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MyLinkNetwork] Share This - LinkedIn continues to lust after Facebook

 

 

LinkedIn continues its derivative copycat strategy with Share This (TechCrunch article).  As a corporate strategy, LI has to be "like" Facebook to defend its turf from FB juggernaut incursion.  As a marketing strategy, deeper integration with the online world builds LI's brand and reaches a larger audience that can be converted to users and paying subs. 

But let's be clear.  It's NOT a product strategy.  As LI focuses on marketing and other frills, it continues to neglect the core networking product that is little changed, and in fact is continually restricted, over the years, an area where LI feels little heat from users, competitors, or investors.

What do you you think?

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#744 From: Marc Freedman <marc@...>
Date: Thu Dec 9, 2010 9:36 pm
Subject: Re: LinkedIn jumping the shark
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Jason,

They've been implementing this in stages or using some magic algorithm to apply it.  I had this reported to me a few weeks ago.  But I still see 3rd/out of network LI user full names.

In any case, I agree that is significant.   Us meganetworkers have been crippled for years.  Capping connections at 30K was the final straw for me.  But this hits everyone. 

The only surprise is that they rode the free side of the wave for so long.  The flip side though is it means opportunities for other networks that don't hide their users.

Marc


Re: LinkedIn changes free level and takes away stuff
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Check this out - more reason to push you to an upgrade... 




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#745 From: "pv7721" <pv7721@...>
Date: Fri Dec 10, 2010 1:28 pm
Subject: Re: LinkedIn jumping the shark
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Hi

I saw this as well, and as Marc said, I think I've reported it to him (as I know
he keeps track of such LImitations :)

However, at least for now, either the change is buggy (and it isn't seen
everywhere (i.e. I've got plenty of 3rd degree contacts that I see in full, but
still there are contacts like this where only the 1st name is displayed) or
there is something we're not aware in their algorithm which makes that only
certain 3rd degree contacts are seen this way (i.e. it's a feature, not a bug).

Only time will tell, but in any case, this is not an incentive to upgrade.

My 2c,

Vlad
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#746 From: Marc Freedman <marc@...>
Date: Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:09 pm
Subject: Online business networking + Live events = ?
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XING acquired event registrar amiando.  What do you thing of the combination?  Will that be an area LinkedIn expands to?

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#747 From: Marc Freedman <marc@...>
Date: Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:10 pm
Subject: Do you need integrated social connection and invitation management?
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VC Fred Wilson wants to build better social graphs so he has integrated controls to manage his connections and invitation across multiple social networks.  His nets include Facebook, Twitter, Etsy, Svpply, and Foursquare.   It's interesting that he doesn't mention LinkedIn.

He writes "I'll say right upfront that this may be a feature that many people don't need. But I need it."  Is that true (that most people don't need it)?  What about you?  Are you comfortable with LinkedIn and any others you use in their separate silos with all the email that you receive from each, as well as new services that your contacts invite you to?  Or are you interested in such a feature?

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#748 From: Marc Freedman <marc@...>
Date: Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:32 am
Subject: What do you think of LinkedIn buying CardMunch?
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Munch away, friends!  Your card scanning is now all free ... provided you have an iPhone.  I guess I'll have to wait for the Blackberry version (coming soon)

I am pleasantly surprised.  That's the first good networking idea (internal or bought) I've seen from LinkedIn in many years.  It will be interesting to see how much of CardMunch LinkedIn integrates or keeps, including its mobile contact manager.

What do you think?

Marc

#749 From: Marc Freedman <marc@...>
Date: Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:11 am
Subject: I'm not that kind of fella
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I'm not that kind of fella

Marc Freedman | January 27, 2011 at 8:08 pm | Categories: Commentary, Networking | URL: http://wp.me/pAEbu-76

"Should You Have To Pay To Have Lunch With ME?" That's Jason Alba's question below.

I am in the same position as Jason.   It's a great networking challenge.  And it's just like dating.  People want to advance to home plate and take advantage of you without first touching all the bases.  I'm just NOT that kind of fella.

I agree to meet in the rare case where I can clearly get something out of it, such as the other party is a heavy hitter or a prospective client.

Otherwise a meeting is an interim, not the first, step.  It's just like sending a networking introduction.  The initiator must cultivate and not force the relationship, which respect both parties' time.   There are issues and questions that need to be addressed:

  • Is the initiator showing genuine interest by understanding me, showing common interests, writing a custom personal email and not a form letter, and flattering my zaftig shape in that sexy pink polka dot dress?
  • How exactly can I help him?
  • What do I get out of it?
  • Can I point him to other resources like my LinkedIn wiki?

I don't put out on the first request.  I'll start with an email exchange, advance to a phone call, and THEN meet if there is mutual interest.  I'm really not playing hard to get.  I'm building a relationship.

Otherwise if they just want to meet and use you, I agree with Jason.  I invite the other party to come to one of our DallasBlue events where he or she can meet me.  And I can be all his or hers if they want ...  for the price of my consulting fee.

Marc

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#750 From: "The Recruiting Guy" <chris@...>
Date: Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:09 am
Subject: Re: What do you think of LinkedIn buying CardMunch?
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Very interesting, thanks for sharing Marc (I had not seen this, busy week). I use the service and think it’s great on my i-phone, I just wonder if LinkedIn thinks it will both help grow the network and allow people to connect directly via trading business cards in the future? LI has hired three people I know out of the ranks of the staffing industry in the past several months to help push the “what is to come” vision and services. A long way from the grass roots internet networking we were all using the tool for over the years.

 

Cheers,

 

Chris Wellington


#751 From: Marc Freedman <marc@...>
Date: Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:37 am
Subject: Re: Re: What do you think of LinkedIn buying CardMunch?
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Chris,

One would think network growth is the objective.  LinkedIn import contacts from external sources like Outlook.  Now they can do the same from physical cards.  More contacts lead to more connections, which leads to more subscribers.   But LinkedIn is close to saturation now (at least in the US).   I don't see how biz card scanning makes a meaningful difference there.

At this point they should be looking at product extension (which this is not) and improving conversion (which may be down the road.  I could scanning as part of their premium service in full or part.)

My guess goes back to a theme I brought up a few months ago - Facebook.  There is little new and so a low barrier for digital contact import.  Open APIs enable any service to easily import from a hundred different address books and web services.  Card scanning is a unique point of differentiation.  It's a good defensive move for when FB launches its own business network.

Marc


The Recruiting Guy wrote On 1/27/2011 9:09 PM:
 

Very interesting, thanks for sharing Marc (I had not seen this, busy week). I use the service and think it’s great on my i-phone, I just wonder if LinkedIn thinks it will both help grow the network and allow people to connect directly via trading business cards in the future? LI has hired three people I know out of the ranks of the staffing industry in the past several months to help push the “what is to come” vision and services. A long way from the grass roots internet networking we were all using the tool for over the years.

 

Cheers,

 

Chris Wellington


#752 From: "The Recruiting Guy" <chris@...>
Date: Fri Jan 28, 2011 6:01 am
Subject: Re: Re: What do you think of LinkedIn buying CardMunch?
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Great points Marc! But I disagree with “saturation” I think there is still a lot of new market share (in the new medium or vehicle) of non-users but how to differentiate from the Facebook and other IPOs coming in the next 1.5 years. I wonder if a Goggle will not just grab them up secretly to build the empire of services? Was pitched tonight on needing a sponsored button for my blogs and main websites, crazy! Once was yellow page budgets, ha don’t even have one land line any longer.

 

With the business card the “old schoolers” still feels is the safe bet to hand them to an I-Phone guy like me, then LI can capture even more users instantaneously, some of these people may never go to a SM site…but they are now J I don’t think it product extension I think its additional “for sale” services so they can sell business owners like me on more data. Just my thought after swimming through the sea of tools for 2011…we all choose LI even with a 400% increase in cost for new hire. Was truly free at one point for some of us that have been there for a long time now…

 

Keep it up!

 

TGIF

 

Chris Wellington


#753 From: Marc Freedman <marc@...>
Date: Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:06 pm
Subject: Re: Re: What do you think of LinkedIn buying CardMunch?
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Chris,

Good stuff.  'Saturation' was used for effect and only applied to the market of individual business users.  Virtually every business person I know knows about LinkedIn and has been invited multiple times, if they aren't already a member. Acceleration is slowing.  LI is on the downside of the S curve. 

Now that's different from revenues where there remain huge opportunities.  There are many countries to conquer, subscribers to upsell, new markets like recruiting to sell and sell more data to, and late adopters to still join.  It may be that biz card scanning is for that last segment but I doubt it.

I actually did some work on analyzing CardMunch and creating a clone.  My research was that it's an ugly poorly scalable business due to the manual service aspect and backseat position of biz cards in an online world.  Similar to the services that will convert your vinyl albums into MP3's.   It was an investor single, not a home run, suitable only as a unique feature for feeding new contacts into a company in the contact management/CRM/social network space.  Which is what happened. 

LinkedIn has had acquisition offers for years.  Yahoo was a serious suitor about 3 years ago.   But they've always been committed to independence and the IPO once the market opened.  Given the newly announced IPO, a sale is highly unlikely in the near and medium term.

Cheers,
Marc


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Great points Marc! But I disagree with “saturation” I think there is still a lot of new market share (in the new medium or vehicle) of non-users but how to differentiate from the Facebook and other IPOs coming in the next 1.5 years. I wonder if a Goggle will not just grab them up secretly to build the empire of services? Was pitched tonight on needing a sponsored button for my blogs and main websites, crazy! Once was yellow page budgets, ha don’t even have one land line any longer.

 

With the business card the “old schoolers” still feels is the safe bet to hand them to an I-Phone guy like me, then LI can capture even more users instantaneously, some of these people may never go to a SM site…but they are now J I don’t think it product extension I think its additional “for sale” services so they can sell business owners like me on more data. Just my thought after swimming through the sea of tools for 2011…we all choose LI even with a 400% increase in cost for new hire. Was truly free at one point for some of us that have been there for a long time now…

 

Keep it up!

 

TGIF

 

Chris Wellington


#754 From: "Tom Schulte" <tomschulte@...>
Date: Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:50 am
Subject: RE: Re: What do you think of LinkedIn buying CardMunch?
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Marc,

 

Excellent comments. You are smart.

 

Keep up the God Work!

 

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Chris,

Good stuff.  'Saturation' was used for effect and only applied to the market of individual business users.  Virtually every business person I know knows about LinkedIn and has been invited multiple times, if they aren't already a member. Acceleration is slowing.  LI is on the downside of the S curve. 

Now that's different from revenues where there remain huge opportunities.  There are many countries to conquer, subscribers to upsell, new markets like recruiting to sell and sell more data to, and late adopters to still join.  It may be that biz card scanning is for that last segment but I doubt it.

I actually did some work on analyzing CardMunch and creating a clone.  My research was that it's an ugly poorly scalable business due to the manual service aspect and backseat position of biz cards in an online world.  Similar to the services that will convert your vinyl albums into MP3's.   It was an investor single, not a home run, suitable only as a unique feature for feeding new contacts into a company in the contact management/CRM/social network space.  Which is what happened. 

LinkedIn has had acquisition offers for years.  Yahoo was a serious suitor about 3 years ago.   But they've always been committed to independence and the IPO once the market opened.  Given the newly announced IPO, a sale is highly unlikely in the near and medium term.

Cheers,
Marc


The Recruiting Guy wrote On 1/28/2011 12:01 AM:

 

Great points Marc! But I disagree with “saturation” I think there is still a lot of new market share (in the new medium or vehicle) of non-users but how to differentiate from the Facebook and other IPOs coming in the next 1.5 years. I wonder if a Goggle will not just grab them up secretly to build the empire of services? Was pitched tonight on needing a sponsored button for my blogs and main websites, crazy! Once was yellow page budgets, ha don’t even have one land line any longer.

 

With the business card the “old schoolers” still feels is the safe bet to hand them to an I-Phone guy like me, then LI can capture even more users instantaneously, some of these people may never go to a SM site…but they are now J I don’t think it product extension I think its additional “for sale” services so they can sell business owners like me on more data. Just my thought after swimming through the sea of tools for 2011…we all choose LI even with a 400% increase in cost for new hire. Was truly free at one point for some of us that have been there for a long time now…

 

Keep it up!

 

TGIF

 

Chris Wellington


#755 From: Marc Freedman <marc@...>
Date: Fri Feb 4, 2011 11:16 pm
Subject: Are LinkedIn Events eventful?
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LinkedIn (LI) Events is Meetup for LinkedIn members. It's been around for over two years now.  What do you think of it? Have you found it valuable? What tips or other uses have you found?

I've used LI Events a few times for DallasBlue events. I've found it useful for supplementary marketing and services and have added it to my regular event operations. My review and comments are below.

Weak features:

  • Primary event listing. Don't have a web page? LI Events allows you to publish the basic facts, including a link to a web site.  The listing does not provide payment or formal registration.  It's OK for a simple and free get-together.  It's adequate for a secondary listing.  But it's not a selling or registration service.  I don't recommend it as the primary home for a professional or corporate event.
  • LinkedIn community promotion.  I've seen little evidence that business members turn to LI Events to find a new seminar or business event.  You might attract a few people.  But don't count on it to fill your meeting.
  • Branding. There is little you can do to brand your meeting on LI Events.  The event is associated with your personal profile. You can't provide a logo, HTML, or otherwise format your listing and description.  Your organization is a single non-descript line in the event overview.  LI provides a custom URL with the event name.  But that is quite long.  Use bit.ly or your favorite url shortener.

Recommended use:

  • Contact marketing. LinkedIn makes it easy to invite your connections. The event will also show up in LinkedIn updates on the home page and in email for your LinkedIn buddies.  LinkedIn messaging restrictions apply. You can only invite current connections and send to a maximum of 200 people at a time, which can only be filtered by metro area and industry.  Don't rely solely on LI Events for your marketing. But it definitely should be a part of your outreach.
  • Social communications. LI Events supports comments.  It's limited compared to LinkedIn group discussions.  Still, it's a useful real-time and social way to publish event announcements and updates, receive and answer questions, and allow other comments and suggestions. My normal event publishing doesn't provide this functionality.  I've found LI Events to be a nice supplemental resource. 
  • Online event networking.  I've been looking for several years for a free service outside Meetup that allows invitees and attendees to look up one another before an event to see who's coming, plan personal meetings, and initiate contact, as well as to follow up afterward. Only people who RSVP in advance on LinkedIn will be listed in the LI Event, just a subset of actual attendees. So it's far from a complete solution.  Similar to Event communications, I don't have a solution for online event networking and so find this to be a helpful, albeit limited, feature.

Be sure to actively promote the LI Events event URL for communications and networking everywhere you list the event - your main event web page, your newsletter, all event marketing pieces, and all registrant messages.


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