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Hi,

following question, I am trading the RUT

I had 3 April put credit spreads put on (short 620 and long 610) for a
credit of $100 each. When the RUT dropped too far down, I sold one
690/700 call credit spread against it for a credit of $500.

RUT went up all the way to 720 and today came down to a bit below 700.
That I used to turn that call position into a box by putting on the
April put 700/690 for a credit of $400.

So together with the 3x 620/610 put credit spreads I will do fine.

However, I have been thinking about Theta of my long box options and
wondered if I couldn't milk that position a bit more?
If I turn that box into what is called I believe a Double Diagonal and
move the long options further out in time, is that not a trade where I
can't loose?

If the RUT closes between 700 and 690, then I roll the short options
out too, otherwise I have to close.

Am I right in my thinking?

Many thanks for any help, gis













Wed Apr 9, 2008 7:52 pm

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Hi, following question, I am trading the RUT I had 3 April put credit spreads put on (short 620 and long 610) for a credit of $100 each. When the RUT dropped...
gismeu
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Apr 9, 2008
8:33 pm

I am not sure you actually have a box trade going there - are you sure it is a box? To create a box, I would have thought you would buy the 700 puts, and sell...
petercd777
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Apr 10, 2008
2:07 am

Peter *Box Spread* A type of option arbitrage in which both a bull spread and a bear spread are established for a near-riskless position. One spread is...
Meuter Gisbert
gismeu
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Apr 10, 2008
4:48 am

Hi Gis, yeah - woops - my mistake!! Just realised what I described is actually what was done!! I agree - you have given it very succinctly - there is no more...
petercd777
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Apr 10, 2008
4:10 pm

Gis, Hmmm. Not my style of trading, but hey it's your money and more importantly your time. Who ever your broker is, they will be a very happy! Here is my...
Murthy Nyayapati
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Apr 10, 2008
4:48 am

Murthy, the whole position is only part of a much bigger RUT Iron Condor, Call credit spread and Put credit spread play at various strike prices. About 10 ...
Meuter Gisbert
gismeu
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Apr 10, 2008
4:11 pm

Murthy is correct. Gis has a short box and has locked in a $100 loss if he holds it to expiration. The shorts are too close in to adjust into a traditional...
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Apr 10, 2008
4:11 pm

Neal, <<I'm surprised Gis would ask this advanced question in this forum.>> LOL - I needed some reflections and quick. Didn't think of looking for an advanced...
Meuter Gisbert
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Apr 10, 2008
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