--- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "pegppeg" <pegppeg@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "DebraC" <debracopeland@>
wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "mrfearless47"
<mrfearless47@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "DebraC" <debracopeland@>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ***************
> > > >
> > > > I'm retiring effective tomorrow (man, that feels weird to type that!). 
Can you remember how long it took to receive your first PERS benefit?  I know
they have 90 days, but I'm hoping it'll be quite a bit sooner...
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > --- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "inthismoment53" <troxr@>
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I was doing some income tax estimation and I have a question. I
retired on July 1st. My PERS benefit is directly deposited into my account and
seems to arrive on the first day of the month. My last check however, was
deposited on October 30th, as November 1st fell on a Sunday. I expect the next
deposit on Tuesday, December 1st.  My question: Given that January 1st is a bank
holiday and a Friday, can I expect the deposit to occur on December 31st or
January 4th? And for tax purposes does PERS (and the IRS) consider this check a
December payment or a January payment?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Rick
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > First:
> > >
> > > Congratulations on achieving this major milestone in life.  Richly
deserved.
> > >
> > > Second, generally speaking PERS has 62 days from your actual retirement to
send you or deposit your first check.  Depending on when it is processed, it
will be retroactive to the date of retirement, but it may follow quickly with
another check to put you "on schedule".  Your first retirement check would
normally come on January 4, 2010 and would be for the month of December. 
Probably that check won't come until late January, followed almost immediately
by the January payment on February 1.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps.
> > >
> > ******
> >
> > Oh, only 62 days?  Well, that's a LOT better than 90 (I wonder where I got
that?).  Yes, it does help.  Thanks, Marc!  And thank you SO MUCH for this blog!
It has helped me immensely with my retirement planning, and I really appreciate
all the effort you and the others put forth to keep us informed about
PERS-related issues on a day-to-day basis.
> >
> > Debbie
> >
>
> ****************************
>
> The 90 day figure is how long PERS has *by law* to make the initial payment.
For this reason, 90 days is the number that prospective PERS retirees are told
to plan ways to hold on till the initial payment arrives. If for some reason
PERS takes longer than the target of 62 days, when you *are* paid the initial
payment takes care of all the delayed payments. (One example, I arranged to take
a short term loan to make my house payments, but paid it off in full when I got
my initial benefit payment.)
>
> Keep in mind that PERS has to verify employment, years worked, contributions
and earnings before issuing the initial payment. Also keep in mind that even
after your initial payments start coming regularly, PERS will review your
account sometime in the next year and this *may* result in an adjustment of your
monthly benefit amount either up or down.
>
> Congratulations on your retirement. I hope you enjoy yours as much as I have
been enjoying mine!
>
> peg
>

I'm going to have to search out the rule that describes the payment.  It was my
understanding that theyr had 92 days from the application date or 62 days from
the effective retirement date, whichever came sooner.

In any case, you should get your benefit before the end of January.

mrf

Debbie,

I retired on July 1st of this year, received my first check on the 20th of
August and then another on September 1st.  The first one will come via the mail,
even if you have requested direct deposit.  You should receive your "Notice of
Entitlement" a few days before your check arrives.

Congrats!!

Rick


>
> Oh, only 62 days?  Well, that's a LOT better than 90 (I wonder where I got
that?).  Yes, it does help.  Thanks, Marc!  And thank you SO MUCH for this blog!
It has helped me immensely with my retirement planning, and I really appreciate
all the effort you and the others put forth to keep us informed about
PERS-related issues on a day-to-day basis.
>
> Debbie
>

--- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "DebraC" <debracopeland@...>
wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "mrfearless47" <mrfearless47@>
wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "DebraC" <debracopeland@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > ***************
> > >
> > > I'm retiring effective tomorrow (man, that feels weird to type that!). 
Can you remember how long it took to receive your first PERS benefit?  I know
they have 90 days, but I'm hoping it'll be quite a bit sooner...
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > --- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "inthismoment53" <troxr@>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I was doing some income tax estimation and I have a question. I retired
on July 1st. My PERS benefit is directly deposited into my account and seems to
arrive on the first day of the month. My last check however, was deposited on
October 30th, as November 1st fell on a Sunday. I expect the next deposit on
Tuesday, December 1st.  My question: Given that January 1st is a bank holiday
and a Friday, can I expect the deposit to occur on December 31st or January 4th?
And for tax purposes does PERS (and the IRS) consider this check a December
payment or a January payment?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Rick
> > > >
> > >
> > First:
> >
> > Congratulations on achieving this major milestone in life.  Richly deserved.
> >
> > Second, generally speaking PERS has 62 days from your actual retirement to
send you or deposit your first check.  Depending on when it is processed, it
will be retroactive to the date of retirement, but it may follow quickly with
another check to put you "on schedule".  Your first retirement check would
normally come on January 4, 2010 and would be for the month of December. 
Probably that check won't come until late January, followed almost immediately
by the January payment on February 1.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> ******
>
> Oh, only 62 days?  Well, that's a LOT better than 90 (I wonder where I got
that?).  Yes, it does help.  Thanks, Marc!  And thank you SO MUCH for this blog!
It has helped me immensely with my retirement planning, and I really appreciate
all the effort you and the others put forth to keep us informed about
PERS-related issues on a day-to-day basis.
>
> Debbie
>

****************************

The 90 day figure is how long PERS has *by law* to make the initial payment. For
this reason, 90 days is the number that prospective PERS retirees are told to
plan ways to hold on till the initial payment arrives. If for some reason PERS
takes longer than the target of 62 days, when you *are* paid the initial payment
takes care of all the delayed payments. (One example, I arranged to take a short
term loan to make my house payments, but paid it off in full when I got my
initial benefit payment.)

Keep in mind that PERS has to verify employment, years worked, contributions and
earnings before issuing the initial payment. Also keep in mind that even after
your initial payments start coming regularly, PERS will review your account
sometime in the next year and this *may* result in an adjustment of your monthly
benefit amount either up or down.

Congratulations on your retirement. I hope you enjoy yours as much as I have
been enjoying mine!

peg

--- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "mrfearless47" <mrfearless47@...>
wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "DebraC" <debracopeland@>
wrote:
> >
> > ***************
> >
> > I'm retiring effective tomorrow (man, that feels weird to type that!).  Can
you remember how long it took to receive your first PERS benefit?  I know they
have 90 days, but I'm hoping it'll be quite a bit sooner...
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > --- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "inthismoment53" <troxr@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > I was doing some income tax estimation and I have a question. I retired on
July 1st. My PERS benefit is directly deposited into my account and seems to
arrive on the first day of the month. My last check however, was deposited on
October 30th, as November 1st fell on a Sunday. I expect the next deposit on
Tuesday, December 1st.  My question: Given that January 1st is a bank holiday
and a Friday, can I expect the deposit to occur on December 31st or January 4th?
And for tax purposes does PERS (and the IRS) consider this check a December
payment or a January payment?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Rick
> > >
> >
> First:
>
> Congratulations on achieving this major milestone in life.  Richly deserved.
>
> Second, generally speaking PERS has 62 days from your actual retirement to
send you or deposit your first check.  Depending on when it is processed, it
will be retroactive to the date of retirement, but it may follow quickly with
another check to put you "on schedule".  Your first retirement check would
normally come on January 4, 2010 and would be for the month of December. 
Probably that check won't come until late January, followed almost immediately
by the January payment on February 1.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
******

Oh, only 62 days?  Well, that's a LOT better than 90 (I wonder where I got
that?).  Yes, it does help.  Thanks, Marc!  And thank you SO MUCH for this blog!
It has helped me immensely with my retirement planning, and I really appreciate
all the effort you and the others put forth to keep us informed about
PERS-related issues on a day-to-day basis.

Debbie

--- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "DebraC" <debracopeland@...>
wrote:
>
> ***************
>
> I'm retiring effective tomorrow (man, that feels weird to type that!).  Can
you remember how long it took to receive your first PERS benefit?  I know they
have 90 days, but I'm hoping it'll be quite a bit sooner...
>
> Thanks!
>
> --- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "inthismoment53" <troxr@>
wrote:
> >
> > I was doing some income tax estimation and I have a question. I retired on
July 1st. My PERS benefit is directly deposited into my account and seems to
arrive on the first day of the month. My last check however, was deposited on
October 30th, as November 1st fell on a Sunday. I expect the next deposit on
Tuesday, December 1st.  My question: Given that January 1st is a bank holiday
and a Friday, can I expect the deposit to occur on December 31st or January 4th?
And for tax purposes does PERS (and the IRS) consider this check a December
payment or a January payment?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Rick
> >
>
First:

Congratulations on achieving this major milestone in life.  Richly deserved.

Second, generally speaking PERS has 62 days from your actual retirement to send
you or deposit your first check.  Depending on when it is processed, it will be
retroactive to the date of retirement, but it may follow quickly with another
check to put you "on schedule".  Your first retirement check would normally come
on January 4, 2010 and would be for the month of December.  Probably that check
won't come until late January, followed almost immediately by the January
payment on February 1.

Hope this helps.

--- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "mrfearless47" <mrfearless47@...>
wrote:
>
> Bill Sizemore's candidacy for the Governorship on an anti-PERS platform may
have come to an abrupt end today with the filing, in Marion County, of a
multi-count indictment for failure to file Oregon Income Tax returns for at
least three years.  This was announced today by John Kroger, Oregon Attorney
General.  Sizemore's sense that he might be running for Governor from a jail
cell was prescient, although he may have gotten the reasons for his housing
incorrect.
>
> mrf
>

*************************

As a former Dept of Revenue employee who worked in filing enforcement I'm
delighted that they waited for the amnesty period to end. This gave Sizemore
every chance to come clean. He didn't. Now he is being charged. This extends my
Thanksgiving holiday! It is also good for PERS, though there will be plenty of
others attacking the retirement plan of public workers.

Bill Sizemore's candidacy for the Governorship on an anti-PERS platform may have
come to an abrupt end today with the filing, in Marion County, of a multi-count
indictment for failure to file Oregon Income Tax returns for at least three
years.  This was announced today by John Kroger, Oregon Attorney General. 
Sizemore's sense that he might be running for Governor from a jail cell was
prescient, although he may have gotten the reasons for his housing incorrect.

mrf

***************

I'm retiring effective tomorrow (man, that feels weird to type that!).  Can you
remember how long it took to receive your first PERS benefit?  I know they have
90 days, but I'm hoping it'll be quite a bit sooner...

Thanks!

--- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "inthismoment53" <troxr@...>
wrote:
>
> I was doing some income tax estimation and I have a question. I retired on
July 1st. My PERS benefit is directly deposited into my account and seems to
arrive on the first day of the month. My last check however, was deposited on
October 30th, as November 1st fell on a Sunday. I expect the next deposit on
Tuesday, December 1st.  My question: Given that January 1st is a bank holiday
and a Friday, can I expect the deposit to occur on December 31st or January 4th?
And for tax purposes does PERS (and the IRS) consider this check a December
payment or a January payment?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rick
>

--- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "lilyjackpups" <lilyjackpups@...>
wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "mrfearless47" <mrfearless47@>
wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, <scribe97364@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > ---- lilyjackpups <lilyjackpups@> wrote:
> > > New photos posted in the last few days and they are spectacular!
> > >
> > > %$%$%$%$%$%$
> > >
> > > Last week I took time to go through all the albums.  That was great fun
and fabulous!  Thanks to everyone who has posted there.
> > >
> > > Christine
> > >
> >
> >
> > I would agree.  persphoenix has a real gift for photography.  I want to know
which of the Nikons used?
> ===============
> Check out Christine's too. They are very good.
>

Christine's are also wonderful.  I was sure I had already commented on them
unless I'm missing some newer ones.

--- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "mrfearless47" <mrfearless47@...>
wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, <scribe97364@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > ---- lilyjackpups <lilyjackpups@> wrote:
> > New photos posted in the last few days and they are spectacular!
> >
> > %$%$%$%$%$%$
> >
> > Last week I took time to go through all the albums.  That was great fun and
fabulous!  Thanks to everyone who has posted there.
> >
> > Christine
> >
>
>
> I would agree.  persphoenix has a real gift for photography.  I want to know
which of the Nikons used?
===============
Check out Christine's too. They are very good.

--- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, <scribe97364@...> wrote:
>
>
> ---- lilyjackpups <lilyjackpups@...> wrote:
> New photos posted in the last few days and they are spectacular!
>
> %$%$%$%$%$%$
>
> Last week I took time to go through all the albums.  That was great fun and
fabulous!  Thanks to everyone who has posted there.
>
> Christine
>


I would agree.  persphoenix has a real gift for photography.  I want to know
which of the Nikons used?

---- lilyjackpups <lilyjackpups@...> wrote:
New photos posted in the last few days and they are spectacular!

%$%$%$%$%$%$

Last week I took time to go through all the albums.  That was great fun and
fabulous!  Thanks to everyone who has posted there.

Christine

New photos posted in the last few days and they are spectacular!

--- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "pegppeg" <pegppeg@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "inthismoment53" <troxr@>
wrote:
> >
> > I was doing some income tax estimation and I have a question. I retired on
July 1st. My PERS benefit is directly deposited into my account and seems to
arrive on the first day of the month. My last check however, was deposited on
October 30th, as November 1st fell on a Sunday. I expect the next deposit on
Tuesday, December 1st.  My question: Given that January 1st is a bank holiday
and a Friday, can I expect the deposit to occur on December 31st or January 4th?
And for tax purposes does PERS (and the IRS) consider this check a December
payment or a January payment?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Rick
> >
>
> ******************************************
>
> The deposit will most likely come Jan 4, 2010. It will *for sure* happen, be
credited and count for tax purposes in 2010. As an 'experienced' PERS direct
deposit-er I can assure you that this is so.
>
> Sometimes I can see the deposit in my on-line banking information before the
actual end of the year, but the credit line clearly states the first day of
business in the new year.
>
> I hope this helps!
>
> peg
>


It does! Thanks much.

Rick

--- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "inthismoment53" <troxr@...>
wrote:
>
> I was doing some income tax estimation and I have a question. I retired on
July 1st. My PERS benefit is directly deposited into my account and seems to
arrive on the first day of the month. My last check however, was deposited on
October 30th, as November 1st fell on a Sunday. I expect the next deposit on
Tuesday, December 1st.  My question: Given that January 1st is a bank holiday
and a Friday, can I expect the deposit to occur on December 31st or January 4th?
And for tax purposes does PERS (and the IRS) consider this check a December
payment or a January payment?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rick
>

******************************************

The deposit will most likely come Jan 4, 2010. It will *for sure* happen, be
credited and count for tax purposes in 2010. As an 'experienced' PERS direct
deposit-er I can assure you that this is so.

Sometimes I can see the deposit in my on-line banking information before the
actual end of the year, but the credit line clearly states the first day of
business in the new year.

I hope this helps!

peg

I was doing some income tax estimation and I have a question. I retired on July
1st. My PERS benefit is directly deposited into my account and seems to arrive
on the first day of the month. My last check however, was deposited on October
30th, as November 1st fell on a Sunday. I expect the next deposit on Tuesday,
December 1st.  My question: Given that January 1st is a bank holiday and a
Friday, can I expect the deposit to occur on December 31st or January 4th? And
for tax purposes does PERS (and the IRS) consider this check a December payment
or a January payment?

Thanks,

Rick

--- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, gaser1000 <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "mrfearless47" <mrfearless47@>
wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "pegppeg" <pegppeg@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "mrfearless47"
<mrfearless47@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > As requested, I have created a link that will poll Google for Oregon
PERS news.  As I understand it, the news will be regenerated each time a user
clicks on the link.  It is located in the "Links" section to the left and is
about 3rd down from the top.  Please try it out and see whether it meets your
needs.  Just remember that Google results are not always precise, but they
provide real-time guidance to what places are in the news.  Please advise me if
the search needs to be tweaked.
> > > >
> > > > mrf
> > > >
> > >
> > > **************************************
> > >
> > > I just tried it and it seems to work just as you said it would. It is
interesting to read through all the items (just 3 pages, 27 entries) and get a
bigger picture of the wide spread concerns about the rising PERS employer rates
-- and how misunderstood PERS is.
> > >
> > > peg
> > >
> >
> >
> > Google is a heavy hammer for a more focused search, but for a general
purpose engine its bots crawl so many web sites that anything with PERS in the
subject or title will be picked up.  If you don't put "PERS" (all caps and in
quotes) in your search, you will get an hysterical array of news where some word
or words has "pers" in it anywhere.  A riot.  Anyway, enjoy the search link. 
Thanks to Gary for suggesting it.  I'm really miffed I didn't think of this
first.  Anyone who wants the search to keep for themselves can simply copy it
and ask Google to send them a once-a-day email with the same sources.
> >
> Thank you, Mr. Fearless for making the link.  For me personally, I think this
now is the only Oregon PERS yahoo website I really need to access since it has
all of the links I am interested in.  Happy Thanksgiving to you and all of the
others that are reading this.
>
> Gary  (An inactive Tier one member)
> Olympia, WA
>

Gary:

Thank YOU for the suggestion.  It is pleasure to be able to meet readers' and
posters' need for information.  If it is possible, I will do it.  If others have
special requests, feel free to ask.  I will quickly let you know whether it is
possible and how quickly you can expect it.  If not, I will try to determine
why.

mrf

--- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "mrfearless47" <mrfearless47@...>
wrote:
>
>
>
> You can only access the links directly if you read the site from the web. 
Most people prefer access this way.  There is no way I know to access the link
from this site via email.  You can, however, come to the web site, download the
link and store it so you can seek your own daily email update of PERS news.
>
> mrf
>
@@
Good suggestion Marc.  I have added the link to the Document Library discussion
page.  http://oregonpers.info/discussions.html

I sense we are all trying to provide a simple one stop service to PERS news and
information.  There are now a number of choices available.

GS

You can only access the links directly if you read the site from the web.  Most
people prefer access this way.  There is no way I know to access the link from
this site via email.  You can, however, come to the web site, download the link
and store it so you can seek your own daily email update of PERS news.

mrf

If there is no links section to the left what must I do to get it to show? I am
reading this message from my e-mail.
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: gaser1000
   To: PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 10:43 AM
   Subject: [PERS_Oregon_Discussion] Re: Oregon PERS News Link





   --- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "mrfearless47"
<mrfearless47@...> wrote:
   >
   >
   >
   > --- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "pegppeg" <pegppeg@> wrote:
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > > --- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "mrfearless47"
<mrfearless47@> wrote:
   > > >
   > > > As requested, I have created a link that will poll Google for Oregon
PERS news. As I understand it, the news will be regenerated each time a user
clicks on the link. It is located in the "Links" section to the left and is
about 3rd down from the top. Please try it out and see whether it meets your
needs. Just remember that Google results are not always precise, but they
provide real-time guidance to what places are in the news. Please advise me if
the search needs to be tweaked.
   > > >
   > > > mrf
   > > >
   > >
   > > **************************************
   > >
   > > I just tried it and it seems to work just as you said it would. It is
interesting to read through all the items (just 3 pages, 27 entries) and get a
bigger picture of the wide spread concerns about the rising PERS employer rates
-- and how misunderstood PERS is.
   > >
   > > peg
   > >
   >
   >
   > Google is a heavy hammer for a more focused search, but for a general
purpose engine its bots crawl so many web sites that anything with PERS in the
subject or title will be picked up. If you don't put "PERS" (all caps and in
quotes) in your search, you will get an hysterical array of news where some word
or words has "pers" in it anywhere. A riot. Anyway, enjoy the search link.
Thanks to Gary for suggesting it. I'm really miffed I didn't think of this
first. Anyone who wants the search to keep for themselves can simply copy it and
ask Google to send them a once-a-day email with the same sources.
   >
   Thank you, Mr. Fearless for making the link. For me personally, I think this
now is the only Oregon PERS yahoo website I really need to access since it has
all of the links I am interested in. Happy Thanksgiving to you and all of the
others that are reading this.

   Gary (An inactive Tier one member)
   Olympia, WA





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

--- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "mrfearless47" <mrfearless47@...>
wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "pegppeg" <pegppeg@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "mrfearless47"
<mrfearless47@> wrote:
> > >
> > > As requested, I have created a link that will poll Google for Oregon PERS
news.  As I understand it, the news will be regenerated each time a user clicks
on the link.  It is located in the "Links" section to the left and is about 3rd
down from the top.  Please try it out and see whether it meets your needs.  Just
remember that Google results are not always precise, but they provide real-time
guidance to what places are in the news.  Please advise me if the search needs
to be tweaked.
> > >
> > > mrf
> > >
> >
> > **************************************
> >
> > I just tried it and it seems to work just as you said it would. It is
interesting to read through all the items (just 3 pages, 27 entries) and get a
bigger picture of the wide spread concerns about the rising PERS employer rates
-- and how misunderstood PERS is.
> >
> > peg
> >
>
>
> Google is a heavy hammer for a more focused search, but for a general purpose
engine its bots crawl so many web sites that anything with PERS in the subject
or title will be picked up.  If you don't put "PERS" (all caps and in quotes) in
your search, you will get an hysterical array of news where some word or words
has "pers" in it anywhere.  A riot.  Anyway, enjoy the search link.  Thanks to
Gary for suggesting it.  I'm really miffed I didn't think of this first.  Anyone
who wants the search to keep for themselves can simply copy it and ask Google to
send them a once-a-day email with the same sources.
>
Thank you, Mr. Fearless for making the link.  For me personally, I think this
now is the only Oregon PERS yahoo website I really need to access since it has
all of the links I am interested in.  Happy Thanksgiving to you and all of the
others that are reading this.

Gary  (An inactive Tier one member)
Olympia, WA

--- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "pegppeg" <pegppeg@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "mrfearless47" <mrfearless47@>
wrote:
> >
> > As requested, I have created a link that will poll Google for Oregon PERS
news.  As I understand it, the news will be regenerated each time a user clicks
on the link.  It is located in the "Links" section to the left and is about 3rd
down from the top.  Please try it out and see whether it meets your needs.  Just
remember that Google results are not always precise, but they provide real-time
guidance to what places are in the news.  Please advise me if the search needs
to be tweaked.
> >
> > mrf
> >
>
> **************************************
>
> I just tried it and it seems to work just as you said it would. It is
interesting to read through all the items (just 3 pages, 27 entries) and get a
bigger picture of the wide spread concerns about the rising PERS employer rates
-- and how misunderstood PERS is.
>
> peg
>


Google is a heavy hammer for a more focused search, but for a general purpose
engine its bots crawl so many web sites that anything with PERS in the subject
or title will be picked up.  If you don't put "PERS" (all caps and in quotes) in
your search, you will get an hysterical array of news where some word or words
has "pers" in it anywhere.  A riot.  Anyway, enjoy the search link.  Thanks to
Gary for suggesting it.  I'm really miffed I didn't think of this first.  Anyone
who wants the search to keep for themselves can simply copy it and ask Google to
send them a once-a-day email with the same sources.

--- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "mrfearless47" <mrfearless47@...>
wrote:
>
> As requested, I have created a link that will poll Google for Oregon PERS
news.  As I understand it, the news will be regenerated each time a user clicks
on the link.  It is located in the "Links" section to the left and is about 3rd
down from the top.  Please try it out and see whether it meets your needs.  Just
remember that Google results are not always precise, but they provide real-time
guidance to what places are in the news.  Please advise me if the search needs
to be tweaked.
>
> mrf
>
@@@
Yes the link is working and the results are predictable.  I must confess that on
the day we pause to give thanks, this "news" isn't what I want to read.

To all of you that have dedicated your working life to public service, I say
well done and may your years of well earned retirement be long and full of joy.

GS

--- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "mrfearless47" <mrfearless47@...>
wrote:
>
> As requested, I have created a link that will poll Google for Oregon PERS
news.  As I understand it, the news will be regenerated each time a user clicks
on the link.  It is located in the "Links" section to the left and is about 3rd
down from the top.  Please try it out and see whether it meets your needs.  Just
remember that Google results are not always precise, but they provide real-time
guidance to what places are in the news.  Please advise me if the search needs
to be tweaked.
>
> mrf
>

**************************************

I just tried it and it seems to work just as you said it would. It is
interesting to read through all the items (just 3 pages, 27 entries) and get a
bigger picture of the wide spread concerns about the rising PERS employer rates
-- and how misunderstood PERS is.

peg

As requested, I have created a link that will poll Google for Oregon PERS news. 
As I understand it, the news will be regenerated each time a user clicks on the
link.  It is located in the "Links" section to the left and is about 3rd down
from the top.  Please try it out and see whether it meets your needs.  Just
remember that Google results are not always precise, but they provide real-time
guidance to what places are in the news.  Please advise me if the search needs
to be tweaked.

mrf

--- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <gon10_7@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "mrfearless47" <mrfearless47@>
wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <gon10_7@> wrote:
> > >
> > > (a joke, get it? gon?
> > >
> > > I just got a message: "server connection terminated"
> > >
> >
> >
> > You on Comcast?  That seems to be fairly common these days.  I don't get it
much while on this site, but regularly on other sites like Facebook.
> >
> > mrf
> >
> ---------
> Yes, Comcast (for now). I had to laugh. Here I was shooting off my mouth about
getting kicked off the site and all of a sudden the message popped up about
being terminated.
> I thought, gee that was quick. Marc is really on top of things. :-)
>


That IS funny.  Alas, I don't have that kind of power, although it is tempting
to use on some of the more obnoxious people I encounter on the internets.

--- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <gon10_7@...> wrote:
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>
>
> --- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "mrfearless47" <mrfearless47@>
wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <gon10_7@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "mrfearless47"
<mrfearless47@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
>   Let's just try for sticking by the general rules and see how that works.
> >----
> I trust you will know it when you see it. This site is an incredible resource.
PERS questions and issue discussion offers enough real substance that empty
noise is not required. As said before, there are other places where the
inflammatory posters can express themselves. Thanks again for creating this site
and for the leadership.
>

Thank YOU for your support and understanding.  Have a safe and sane
thanksgiving.  Don't do anything I would do?  <g>

Turkey trivia test: http://home.aristotle.net/Thanksgiving/trivia.asp

--- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "mrfearless47" <mrfearless47@...>
wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <gon10_7@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "mrfearless47"
<mrfearless47@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
   Let's just try for sticking by the general rules and see how that works.
>----
I trust you will know it when you see it. This site is an incredible resource.
PERS questions and issue discussion offers enough real substance that empty
noise is not required. As said before, there are other places where the
inflammatory posters can express themselves. Thanks again for creating this site
and for the leadership.

--- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "mrfearless47" <mrfearless47@...>
wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In PERS_Oregon_Discussion@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <gon10_7@> wrote:
> >
> > (a joke, get it? gon?
> >
> > I just got a message: "server connection terminated"
> >
>
>
> You on Comcast?  That seems to be fairly common these days.  I don't get it
much while on this site, but regularly on other sites like Facebook.
>
> mrf
>
---------
Yes, Comcast (for now). I had to laugh. Here I was shooting off my mouth about
getting kicked off the site and all of a sudden the message popped up about
being terminated.
I thought, gee that was quick. Marc is really on top of things. :-)