I am working on a comprehensive PM training needs analysis for a client. I would like to find a succinct and detailed list of specific performances (skills)...
... The PMP is NOT a skills based certification, so I doubt that you will be able to find what you are looking for. It is important to remember that the PMP is...
Mike, As you've found there is no such thing as a performance based criterion for PMP certification - it is all about passing an exam and spending some time in...
Phil Rutherford
phil_rutherford@...
Oct 4, 2003 11:06 pm
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Bill Duncan wrote: >>The PMP is NOT a skills based certification... Certification as a PMP does NOT provide assurance of skill as a project manager.<< Because...
Mike, An instructor in my Master's Program used areas of your site as a reference and it proved very useful in our studies, so when you speak I also listen. ...
... Michael -- Your approach sounds reasonable, but it might not be possible for you to make an inductive argument. In my experience, there are so many people...
Dear All, Any certification / Degree are the recognition of the basic knowledge on the area of specialization. There are people who are excellent Project...
Rajaguru_Muthusamy
Rajaguru_Muthusamy@...
Oct 6, 2003 2:39 pm
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Taking advantage of Mike's nice comments I'd like to quickly address something that Rajaguru said in his response. ... the ... Having moved from industry...
Phil Rutherford
phil_rutherford@...
Oct 7, 2003 2:08 am
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Phil, I'm sorry, but I have to reply to this. I know I'm inexperienced, but the only thing I got from your statements is you want to throw the PMBOK and ...
Bob, You are absolutely correct, a certification or a degree does represent that the holder possesses certain skills and knowledge, but we must be very ...
Phil Rutherford
phil_rutherford@...
Oct 7, 2003 6:43 am
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... I think there is a role for both -- the future is built on the past. I'm reminded of the quip: those who fail to study history are condemned to repeat its...
... The PMBOK Guide (don't forget the "Guide") is not now, and NEVER has been best practices. It is generally accepted practices which is quite a different...
Phil, I'm sorry for any misinterpretation. I've evaluated people in the Air Force using scenarios for a while, wrote some too, and I know that there's not one...
... [snip] ... to ... and ... PM's ... Neither ... and ... accreditation ... and ... out ... PMP ... the ... required ... now). [[GBA]] It's unlikely Gates...
Everyone seems to be assuming (except Duncan of course) that having certs, passing an interview, solving a test will select a good PM. Good PM's come from...
Bob, Thanks for clarifying your thoughts. Now them I can agree with :-) I've been through similar systems and processes that you've been through and totally...
Phil Rutherford
phil_rutherford@...
Oct 8, 2003 3:08 am
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Glen, No, I'm not suggesting that formal training is a waste of time. What I'm saying is that accepting, carte blanche, that a qualification - any ...
Phil Rutherford
phil_rutherford@...
Oct 8, 2003 3:08 am
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Dear All, PMI certified people are the preferred PMs at Microsoft too..Not sure why there is a quote about Bill Gates? Regards Raj ... From: Phil Rutherford...
Rajaguru_Muthusamy
Rajaguru_Muthusamy@...
Oct 8, 2003 4:56 am
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Hi, good day to all, I have been following with interest the topic and I wish to add my own views. Duncan in many ways is correct. Glen Says---- " We've...
Somebody better tell Bill Gates then because he says it ain't so. Phil ... From: "Rajaguru_Muthusamy" <Rajaguru_Muthusamy@...> To:...
Phil Rutherford
phil_rutherford@...
Oct 8, 2003 8:04 am
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... Perhaps you folks could settle the issue by providing the source for your assertions? Duncan [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
Phil, Yep cleared it to me. I personally don't have a PMP. I have one project manager out of 6 that does. Some in my group have set PMP as a goal, so maybe...
I'm doing an informal survey about the current working environments and perceptions of project managers and am curious about two facets of PM's day to day...
Bill, You suggested that sources be quoted about Microsoft and PMP holders. Here's mine: Cusumano, M. and Selby, R. 1995 Microsoft Secrets. HarperCollins...
Phil Rutherford
phil_rutherford@...
Oct 9, 2003 3:37 am
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Sorry Phil, but I guess history is being changed just like we've been talking about education and certification. Notice this is a 2003 release date. Bob ...
Here's a March 2003 TechRepublic article about Microsoft's new PM career path. Project Manager I requires PMI's CAPM certification, and Project Manager II...
... And some thoughts on the press release ... ... I'm not familiar with Microsoft's organization: what does "Microsoft Services" do? I have a client (a...
Bill, Didn't take me long to find that one on the Microsoft Web Site. Shown below. http://www.microsoft.com/business/services/ There's a load of links ...
Bob, ... Services. ... quality ... . . . it seems Microsoft are putting their own staff through the PMI certification because they believe it is good for their...
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