Hi all

Just my 2 cents.....Over the years I found that Heliocentric astronomy is better
at calling Time cycles then Geo cycles.....However price works better with Gio
then helio...IMO...........The researcher must test both methods to really be
sure of a specific issue trends along with know when to use both together,.....

In actuality there are several parts to a full research project

1) Natural TIME helio and geo mundane cycle research
2) Natural PRICE helio and geo research
3) Individual issue time research(from its own tops and bottoms)Non-astro
4) Individual issue price research (from its own tops and bottoms)Non-astro
5) Individual issue time research (from its own tops and bottoms)Astro
6) Individual issue price research(from its own tops and bottoms)Astro

I also believe its only after the above has been thoroughly researched and
understood on each issue's sequencing can anyone even attempt to make a decent
65-70% accurate forecast.....Even Gann's forecasts at his best gave results
which were more or less in the high 70% range and that again was at his
best...... I also feel this to be true with Bayer and elliot also......

Hi RObert,

"Thanks for the responses.  I would like to ask you then, how do I go about
finding the ruler(s) for this stock?  This would help me a lot!"

  sometimes its not simple to designate which planets may or may not control the
tops and bottoms of a stock or other trading vehicle........The only true way to
know for sure is to test EACH AND EVERY planet one at a time until the correct
one/s are found.....(Fingerprint research)

Sometimes there are 2 , 3 or only 1 planet ruling an issue say 65% of the
time........

Tell You what.....You still have the software correct?

If you do I will try to schedule some time this week to go over that issue with
you.....At least point you in the correct direction........As it may take much
longer then 45 min to an 1 hour to do......

"Are you also saying that different stocks may control the tops or bottoms?
Interesting notion. "

    ?..........I think you mean different planets may control tops and
bottoms.........You also must understand that there are 3 different time cycle
lengths......Daily weekly and Monthly......Each usually uses a completely
different set of planets.....Short term , Med term and Long term.....However one
will roll into the next for the longer term ones....

"Looking forward to working with you on the POF."

I'm glad......If you know of anyone else who may be interested in the POF
research please invite them to join as of now I have about 12 people which is
not enough data for the Jupiter conjunctions at this time...Im looking to
isolate people who's correct part of fortune is one month away from an exact
Conjunction in each sign.........

Rob G

LUCK DEPENDS ON THE STARS

An interesting article from Magi Astrology


What is luck?

Scientists do not believe that there is any such thing.

Science deals in a lot of things and scientists try to make predictions about
all sorts of things.  But scientists do not try to predict good and bad luck.

But LUCK is more important than just about anything scientists do study.

What is that old saying? "When you're hot, you're hot and when you're not,
you're not."
Well -- wouldn't it be wonderful if we could know when we are hot?  Wouldn't it
be great to know when we are lucky and when we are not?

In our opinion, luck is often the difference.
Take for example sports.

Luck is often the difference between winning and losing.

We have all heard the term "It is a game of inches" meaning that one inch can
make all the difference in the world.  For example, last year, if a ball hit by
a Yankee in 9th inning of the fourth game of the Yankees/Red Sox playoffs was
just one inch to the right, it would have been a fair ball and a home run.  Then
the Yankees would have won four straight games and beaten the Red Sox.  Instead,
the ball was a foul ball and the Yankees lost that game, and then lost three
more games to end up losing to the Red Sox in the playoffs for the first time in
over 80 years. Most people would look at this and say that one inch was the
difference. But we think the real difference was luck. And we think that luck
depends on the stars!

THE STARS GIVE US CLUES ABOUT GOOD AND BAD LUCK

The Magi Society believes that we can use Magi Astrology to predict good and bad
luck and by having this ability, we can help ourselves to improve our lives.  We
also believe God answers prayers and Angels have the power to bless us with
"good luck" -- but no matter what, it sure helps to know which direction our
stars are pointing.

By knowing when our stars are bad, we would know when to lay low and when to not
push our luck.  Even better, by knowing when our luck is good, we can take
advantage of it, and find a better new job or find true love, or start a great
business, etc.

One of the most valuable gifts of Magi Astrology is that it helps us to read the
stars so that we can know when our luck is good and when our luck is bad.  Magi
Astrology is much better at this than any other form of astrology.

TRANSITS ARE SIGNS OF GOOD AND BAD LUCK
The key to the astrology of luck is TRANSITS.

A transit occurs when a planet in the sky makes a meaningful alignment (like a
square or a trine) to the position of a planet in a birth chart.

For thousands of years, astrologers have known about TRANSITS and how powerful
they can be in our lives.  When we have good transits, the stars are telling us
that our luck is good but when we have bad transits, the stars are warning us
that our luck is not so good.

A good example of this is Jennifer Aniston.  In our last link, we explained that
Jennifer Aniston was having horrible Nuclear Transits when she decided to leave
her husband, Brad Pitt, alone for nine months while he was shooting a movie with
Angelina Jolie.

In astrology, we would say, "Jennifer was having awful NATAL TRANSITS."  Natal
Transits are transits to a person's own natal chart (birth chart).

Natal Transits are crucial and most astrologers check out their own natal
transits on regular if not daily basis.

But there is another type of transit that is just as important as natal
transits.  Sometimes, it is even more important for us to analyze the transits
to other charts as well as transits to our natal chart.

Can anyone ADD to this research....!!!...???

Thanks
Rob G

Hay Pete

After reviewing some of my Gillen books and articles I read in several places
that he liked Magi astrology the most from what was available regarding his type
of research. According to his and some of my personal research I too believe
that the answer does not completely lay within traditional astrology as we know
it...But is unique in many ways....

This is the reason (I believe anyway)why many have tried to duplicate Gann's,
Bayers or Gillens type of accurate forecasting using general astrological
methods and failed....

Not saying Magi astrology has anything over traditional methods, I just believe
that there are many other parts to this extreamy large picture...Cosmology is a
gigantic subject of which traditional astrology/astronomy includes only a very
small part....

As in a past post my next goal is to research not just the timing of stocks or
numbers but the timing of personal periods of good fortune other wise known as
"Luck"

So my question is what does Magi astrology do different when gauging the lucky
transits along with providing examples predicted beforehand...Such as Gillen
supposedly did/does....I to have found his research to be extremely sound in
personal number forecasting...

Hit the Pick 3 last night ($250)due to the timing of double digit numbers
cycles, Hot root columns, key numbers along with numerical astro keys...

This also held true for the triple digit number in the pick 4 I hit in the 56th
draw on 4/16/10 ($600)

Both dates also held several small "Luck transits"...!!

I also have several stronger ones due in May..between the 22-23 this time also
ties in with the potential next set of triple digit number cycles in the pick
4....

there is also a smaller pick 4 cycle coming in 12 days before with not so many
personal aspects but an important period non the less...so my eyes will be open
for both periods...

This type of astro research holds more keys then anything i ever encountered
before regarding general astrology and actual "hard hit timing"....

And I'm only in the beginning phases of this new research with the
numbers.....and am interested in hooking up with anyone who can shed more light
on this type of astrology.....To save time....

Our/my astro stock research dating back 12 plus years will also benefit from
this new research....as well as my personal clients and students...

Thanks
Rob G
www.pvtpointmktres.com

  >
> Hello Robert
>
> I am a member to magi society
>
> What woud you like to know ?
>
>

--- In PivotPointResearchInc@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" <pvtpoint@...> wrote:
>
>                    LUCK DEPENDS ON THE STARS
>
> An interesting article from Magi Astrology
>
>
> What is luck?
>
> Scientists do not believe that there is any such thing.
>
> Science deals in a lot of things and scientists try to make predictions about
all sorts of things.  But scientists do not try to predict good and bad luck.
>
> But LUCK is more important than just about anything scientists do study.
>
> What is that old saying? "When you're hot, you're hot and when you're not,
you're not."
> Well -- wouldn't it be wonderful if we could know when we are hot?  Wouldn't
it be great to know when we are lucky and when we are not?
>
> In our opinion, luck is often the difference.
> Take for example sports.
>
> Luck is often the difference between winning and losing.
>
> We have all heard the term "It is a game of inches" meaning that one inch can
make all the difference in the world.  For example, last year, if a ball hit by
a Yankee in 9th inning of the fourth game of the Yankees/Red Sox playoffs was
just one inch to the right, it would have been a fair ball and a home run.  Then
the Yankees would have won four straight games and beaten the Red Sox.  Instead,
the ball was a foul ball and the Yankees lost that game, and then lost three
more games to end up losing to the Red Sox in the playoffs for the first time in
over 80 years. Most people would look at this and say that one inch was the
difference. But we think the real difference was luck. And we think that luck
depends on the stars!
>
> THE STARS GIVE US CLUES ABOUT GOOD AND BAD LUCK
>
> The Magi Society believes that we can use Magi Astrology to predict good and
bad luck and by having this ability, we can help ourselves to improve our lives.
We also believe God answers prayers and Angels have the power to bless us with
"good luck" -- but no matter what, it sure helps to know which direction our
stars are pointing.
>
> By knowing when our stars are bad, we would know when to lay low and when to
not push our luck.  Even better, by knowing when our luck is good, we can take
advantage of it, and find a better new job or find true love, or start a great
business, etc.
>
> One of the most valuable gifts of Magi Astrology is that it helps us to read
the stars so that we can know when our luck is good and when our luck is bad. 
Magi Astrology is much better at this than any other form of astrology.
>
> TRANSITS ARE SIGNS OF GOOD AND BAD LUCK
> The key to the astrology of luck is TRANSITS.
>
> A transit occurs when a planet in the sky makes a meaningful alignment (like a
square or a trine) to the position of a planet in a birth chart.
>
> For thousands of years, astrologers have known about TRANSITS and how powerful
they can be in our lives.  When we have good transits, the stars are telling us
that our luck is good but when we have bad transits, the stars are warning us
that our luck is not so good.
>
> A good example of this is Jennifer Aniston.  In our last link, we explained
that Jennifer Aniston was having horrible Nuclear Transits when she decided to
leave her husband, Brad Pitt, alone for nine months while he was shooting a
movie with Angelina Jolie.
>
> In astrology, we would say, "Jennifer was having awful NATAL TRANSITS."  Natal
Transits are transits to a person's own natal chart (birth chart).
>
> Natal Transits are crucial and most astrologers check out their own natal
transits on regular if not daily basis.
>
> But there is another type of transit that is just as important as natal
transits.  Sometimes, it is even more important for us to analyze the transits
to other charts as well as transits to our natal chart.
>
> Can anyone ADD to this research....!!!...???
>
> Thanks
> Rob G
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Robert

To: PivotPointResearchInc@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 12:03 PM

Subject: [PivotPointResearchInc] Re: Luck Depends on the Stars .......

 

Hay Pete

After reviewing some of my Gillen books and articles I read in several places that he liked Magi astrology the most from what was available regarding his type of research. According to his and some of my personal research I too believe that the answer does not completely lay within traditional astrology as we know it...But is unique in many ways....

This is the reason (I believe anyway)why many have tried to duplicate Gann's, Bayers or Gillens type of accurate forecasting using general astrological methods and failed....

Not saying Magi astrology has anything over traditional methods, I just believe that there are many other parts to this extreamy large picture...Cosmology is a gigantic subject of which traditional astrology/astronomy includes only a very small part....

As in a past post my next goal is to research not just the timing of stocks or numbers but the timing of personal periods of good fortune other wise known as "Luck"

So my question is what does Magi astrology do different when gauging the lucky transits along with providing examples predicted beforehand...Such as Gillen supposedly did/does....I to have found his research to be extremely sound in personal number forecasting...

Hit the Pick 3 last night ($250)due to the timing of double digit numbers cycles, Hot root columns, key numbers along with numerical astro keys...

This also held true for the triple digit number in the pick 4 I hit in the 56th draw on 4/16/10 ($600)

Both dates also held several small "Luck transits"...!!

I also have several stronger ones due in May..between the 22-23 this time also ties in with the potential next set of triple digit number cycles in the pick 4....

there is also a smaller pick 4 cycle coming in 12 days before with not so many personal aspects but an important period non the less...so my eyes will be open for both periods...

This type of astro research holds more keys then anything i ever encountered before regarding general astrology and actual "hard hit timing"....

And I'm only in the beginning phases of this new research with the numbers.....and am interested in hooking up with anyone who can shed more light on this type of astrology.....To save time....

Our/my astro stock research dating back 12 plus years will also benefit from this new research....as well as my personal clients and students...

Thanks
Rob G
www.pvtpointmktres.com

>
> Hello Robert
>
> I am a member to magi society
>
> What woud you like to know ?
>
>

--- In PivotPointResearchInc@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" <pvtpoint@...> wrote:
>
> LUCK DEPENDS ON THE STARS
>
> An interesting article from Magi Astrology
>
>
> What is luck?
>
> Scientists do not believe that there is any such thing.
>
> Science deals in a lot of things and scientists try to make predictions about all sorts of things. But scientists do not try to predict good and bad luck.
>
> But LUCK is more important than just about anything scientists do study.
>
> What is that old saying? "When you're hot, you're hot and when you're not, you're not."
> Well -- wouldn't it be wonderful if we could know when we are hot? Wouldn't it be great to know when we are lucky and when we are not?
>
> In our opinion, luck is often the difference.
> Take for example sports.
>
> Luck is often the difference between winning and losing.
>
> We have all heard the term "It is a game of inches" meaning that one inch can make all the difference in the world. For example, last year, if a ball hit by a Yankee in 9th inning of the fourth game of the Yankees/Red Sox playoffs was just one inch to the right, it would have been a fair ball and a home run. Then the Yankees would have won four straight games and beaten the Red Sox. Instead, the ball was a foul ball and the Yankees lost that game, and then lost three more games to end up losing to the Red Sox in the playoffs for the first time in over 80 years. Most people would look at this and say that one inch was the difference. But we think the real difference was luck. And we think that luck depends on the stars!
>
> THE STARS GIVE US CLUES ABOUT GOOD AND BAD LUCK
>
> The Magi Society believes that we can use Magi Astrology to predict good and bad luck and by having this ability, we can help ourselves to improve our lives. We also believe God answers prayers and Angels have the power to bless us with "good luck" -- but no matter what, it sure helps to know which direction our stars are pointing.
>
> By knowing when our stars are bad, we would know when to lay low and when to not push our luck. Even better, by knowing when our luck is good, we can take advantage of it, and find a better new job or find true love, or start a great business, etc.
>
> One of the most valuable gifts of Magi Astrology is that it helps us to read the stars so that we can know when our luck is good and when our luck is bad. Magi Astrology is much better at this than any other form of astrology.
>
> TRANSITS ARE SIGNS OF GOOD AND BAD LUCK
> The key to the astrology of luck is TRANSITS.
>
> A transit occurs when a planet in the sky makes a meaningful alignment (like a square or a trine) to the position of a planet in a birth chart.
>
> For thousands of years, astrologers have known about TRANSITS and how powerful they can be in our lives. When we have good transits, the stars are telling us that our luck is good but when we have bad transits, the stars are warning us that our luck is not so good.
>
> A good example of this is Jennifer Aniston. In our last link, we explained that Jennifer Aniston was having horrible Nuclear Transits when she decided to leave her husband, Brad Pitt, alone for nine months while he was shooting a movie with Angelina Jolie.
>
> In astrology, we would say, "Jennifer was having awful NATAL TRANSITS." Natal Transits are transits to a person's own natal chart (birth chart).
>
> Natal Transits are crucial and most astrologers check out their own natal transits on regular if not daily basis.
>
> But there is another type of transit that is just as important as natal transits. Sometimes, it is even more important for us to analyze the transits to other charts as well as transits to our natal chart.
>
> Can anyone ADD to this research....!!!...???
>
> Thanks
> Rob G
>

One extra point I would like to make is I WISH Gillen would put together some
new and more complete research!.

I tried to contact him several times over the years but is not interested in
teaching anything new...The only thing he is doing is updates several of his
books which were bland beforehand...I own 1 and found it doesn't seem to include
much new stuff...

Its seems a shame that the closest person I have ever came across who's research
is pure and unique and actually GIVES fantastic RESULTS is no longer
teaching....AND IS STILL ALIVE!!!!!

It would be like learning from Gann himself!!

I feel we should all try to contact him on the subject.....

I'd do however know that most of his time these days are spent taking care of
his sick wife and son....

But still feel its a shame non-the less........



--- In PivotPointResearchInc@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" <pvtpoint@...> wrote:
>
> Hay Pete
>
> After reviewing some of my Gillen books and articles I read in several places
that he liked Magi astrology the most from what was available regarding his type
of research. According to his and some of my personal research I too believe
that the answer does not completely lay within traditional astrology as we know
it...But is unique in many ways....
>
> This is the reason (I believe anyway)why many have tried to duplicate Gann's,
Bayers or Gillens type of accurate forecasting using general astrological
methods and failed....
>
> Not saying Magi astrology has anything over traditional methods, I just
believe that there are many other parts to this extreamy large
picture...Cosmology is a gigantic subject of which traditional
astrology/astronomy includes only a very small part....
>
> As in a past post my next goal is to research not just the timing of stocks or
numbers but the timing of personal periods of good fortune other wise known as
"Luck"
>
> So my question is what does Magi astrology do different when gauging the lucky
transits along with providing examples predicted beforehand...Such as Gillen
supposedly did/does....I to have found his research to be extremely sound in
personal number forecasting...
>
> Hit the Pick 3 last night ($250)due to the timing of double digit numbers
cycles, Hot root columns, key numbers along with numerical astro keys...
>
> This also held true for the triple digit number in the pick 4 I hit in the
56th draw on 4/16/10 ($600)
>
> Both dates also held several small "Luck transits"...!!
>
> I also have several stronger ones due in May..between the 22-23 this time also
ties in with the potential next set of triple digit number cycles in the pick
4....
>
> there is also a smaller pick 4 cycle coming in 12 days before with not so many
personal aspects but an important period non the less...so my eyes will be open
for both periods...
>
> This type of astro research holds more keys then anything i ever encountered
before regarding general astrology and actual "hard hit timing"....
>
> And I'm only in the beginning phases of this new research with the
numbers.....and am interested in hooking up with anyone who can shed more light
on this type of astrology.....To save time....
>
> Our/my astro stock research dating back 12 plus years will also benefit from
this new research....as well as my personal clients and students...
>
> Thanks
> Rob G
> www.pvtpointmktres.com
>
>  >
> > Hello Robert
> >
> > I am a member to magi society
> >
> > What woud you like to know ?
> >
> >
>
> --- In PivotPointResearchInc@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" <pvtpoint@> wrote:
> >
> >                    LUCK DEPENDS ON THE STARS
> >
> > An interesting article from Magi Astrology
> >
> >
> > What is luck?
> >
> > Scientists do not believe that there is any such thing.
> >
> > Science deals in a lot of things and scientists try to make predictions
about all sorts of things.  But scientists do not try to predict good and bad
luck.
> >
> > But LUCK is more important than just about anything scientists do study.
> >
> > What is that old saying? "When you're hot, you're hot and when you're not,
you're not."
> > Well -- wouldn't it be wonderful if we could know when we are hot?  Wouldn't
it be great to know when we are lucky and when we are not?
> >
> > In our opinion, luck is often the difference.
> > Take for example sports.
> >
> > Luck is often the difference between winning and losing.
> >
> > We have all heard the term "It is a game of inches" meaning that one inch
can make all the difference in the world.  For example, last year, if a ball hit
by a Yankee in 9th inning of the fourth game of the Yankees/Red Sox playoffs was
just one inch to the right, it would have been a fair ball and a home run.  Then
the Yankees would have won four straight games and beaten the Red Sox.  Instead,
the ball was a foul ball and the Yankees lost that game, and then lost three
more games to end up losing to the Red Sox in the playoffs for the first time in
over 80 years. Most people would look at this and say that one inch was the
difference. But we think the real difference was luck. And we think that luck
depends on the stars!
> >
> > THE STARS GIVE US CLUES ABOUT GOOD AND BAD LUCK
> >
> > The Magi Society believes that we can use Magi Astrology to predict good and
bad luck and by having this ability, we can help ourselves to improve our lives.
We also believe God answers prayers and Angels have the power to bless us with
"good luck" -- but no matter what, it sure helps to know which direction our
stars are pointing.
> >
> > By knowing when our stars are bad, we would know when to lay low and when to
not push our luck.  Even better, by knowing when our luck is good, we can take
advantage of it, and find a better new job or find true love, or start a great
business, etc.
> >
> > One of the most valuable gifts of Magi Astrology is that it helps us to read
the stars so that we can know when our luck is good and when our luck is bad. 
Magi Astrology is much better at this than any other form of astrology.
> >
> > TRANSITS ARE SIGNS OF GOOD AND BAD LUCK
> > The key to the astrology of luck is TRANSITS.
> >
> > A transit occurs when a planet in the sky makes a meaningful alignment (like
a square or a trine) to the position of a planet in a birth chart.
> >
> > For thousands of years, astrologers have known about TRANSITS and how
powerful they can be in our lives.  When we have good transits, the stars are
telling us that our luck is good but when we have bad transits, the stars are
warning us that our luck is not so good.
> >
> > A good example of this is Jennifer Aniston.  In our last link, we explained
that Jennifer Aniston was having horrible Nuclear Transits when she decided to
leave her husband, Brad Pitt, alone for nine months while he was shooting a
movie with Angelina Jolie.
> >
> > In astrology, we would say, "Jennifer was having awful NATAL TRANSITS." 
Natal Transits are transits to a person's own natal chart (birth chart).
> >
> > Natal Transits are crucial and most astrologers check out their own natal
transits on regular if not daily basis.
> >
> > But there is another type of transit that is just as important as natal
transits.  Sometimes, it is even more important for us to analyze the transits
to other charts as well as transits to our natal chart.
> >
> > Can anyone ADD to this research....!!!...???
> >
> > Thanks
> > Rob G
> >
>

According to our software we see several planetary dates the following numbers
hit over the past 5 years......we also have the number 3 and 7 as being over
due....Though ive been only working on the cycles of the triple digit pick 4
numbers (5/9-11, or and 5/21-23 for the next set...these dates also coincide
with some personal lucky transits.....)

The following numbers are also worth looking into for tonight's draw..
4/30/2010....

the Hot numbers for tonight are 2*3*7*5*6*8 with the hotest being 3756 as they
are overdue.,However the 2 main key numbers should be 3 and 7........after going
over several combinations the following dates are the exact hits for the number
2378
5/5/2006
3/8/2007
4/21/2007
12/28/2007
11/15/2008
12/16/2008
4/30/2009
7/21/2009
8/25/2009
3/2/2010

SEVERAL PLANETS ARE AGAIN IN SIMILAR SIGNS.........we also have an exact
anniversary date.....

we also never had an 8 in the first position so we can just play several
straight bets with the other numbers
  5/5/2006 Evening   3 2 7 8   4  20
  3/8/2007 Evening   3 7 2 8   4  20
  4/21/2007 Evening  2 8 7 3   4  20
  12/28/2007 Mid-day 3 8 7 2   4  20
  11/15/2008 Mid-day 2 3 8 7   4  20
  12/16/2008 Mid-day 3 8 7 2   4  20
  4/30/2009 Evening  2 3 7 8   4  20
  7/21/2009 Evening  7 2 8 3   4  20
  8/25/2009 Mid-day  7 3 2 8   4  20
  3/2/2010 Mid-day   7 3 8 2   4

i think we should at lest have 2 out of the 4 if not all as
  astro part 2 is in the 8th,3 11th, 5&8 5th and 7 is in the 10th just past the
MC......also the following are the groups

        Card    Fix      Mut

26H 	  1
28C 	 	  2
9G  3
14G  4
16A  5
23I 	 	  6
14F 	 	  7
14A  8
28K 	  9
26H 	  10
-26
20A  12
-21
24C 	 	  PFT

Hello Tom

How long do you think before the new book is ready......I spoke with the
publisher a few days ago and they said sometime in 2011.........Is this correct?

Is this book the update to the casino and lottery book or just the lottery.

Thanks

Rob G

Hi Rob:

At this point, dad is trying to use the info from the lottery computer, and
design the book to the small lottery player. The lottery computer uses the same
formula as other software, but where it is different, it keys in the missing
number. For example, using all the Mercury numbers—except for #1—you have 18
combinations. The data says 14 should be the second number. Everything in that
spot would be eliminated. The last date for this was April 13, and you'll have
one on May 1. This time you'd leave out the Mercury numbers of 23 and 32 because
they add up to the root of 5.

In the Pick-4, for the Midday drawing, the computer uses the last two digits.
For instance, May 1 is 1-6. Before the numbers of 1-6, you'd have 4-5-7-8. This
would make up the front half of the pick-4. Using this same concept, the fourth
race at Derby Lane goes off at the same time, an advantage with the $0.10
Superfecta, one can now play these numbers for a cost of $32.00. This is the way
it would look – 45678/45678/1/A; 45678/45678/A/1; 14578/14578/6 in the same
format using the top six.

Using the chart for Ohio,, this would fit Bulah Park, with the back three.

·         Race 02:

o   24569/3

o   23569/4

·         Race 03:

o   23478/1

o   12478/3

·         Race 04:

o   15789/2

o   12589/7

·         Race 05:

o   12356/8

o   12568/3

·         Race 06:

o   12358/7

o   12378/5

·         Race 07:

o   1389-11/6

o   3689-11/1

·         Race 08:

o   2479-11/1

o   12479/11

·         Race 10:

o   3458-10/1

o   1345-10/8

In the looking at the Kentucky Derby, your fixed numbers are –
2-3-4-8-12-13-16-17; the mutable – 5-6-7-11-14-18-20; the cardinal –
1-9-10-15-19. There's no one sign that dominates, so all three could be used. In
using the back numbers, we have 4 and 17. A fixed ticket would look like this –
234-17/234-17/4-17/2348-12-13-16-17; 234-17/234-17/2348-12-13-16-17/4-17. The
mutable numbers are 5-11-14-20; the cardinal – 1-9-15-19. Since the best astro
horse is from the fixed group, this could be keyed in. The other astro horse,
#11 from the Mutable, and the only V horse, #9 from the cardinal group, should
be used in the superfecta wagering, along with the astro numbers.

In the evening, the Florida Lottery Pick-4 has 23458. At this point, we realize
that today's generation wants instance gratification, and to go through all this
figuring, without the use of the computer, is out of the question. What dad is
trying to do is make up a table with the numbers, which will take some time to
complete. This gives you  a sample of what will be going into the book.

Tonight's NY pick 4 was 0622.....only 1 of The "Hot" overdue numbers came out
with the 6 ....3 of the 4 were mutable numbers as can be viewed in the new file
link: 4.30.2010 pick 4 astro numbers.doc

The astro number 6 was at 26 Sag and was in the 2nd house which i neglected to
mention in the last post.... since I keyed in on the 3 and 7 the drawn number
was not in my personal picks.......But there were 3 keys within the pick 4 non
the less....6*2*2

This is the trouble i found with Gillen's type research, sometimes its spot on
wile others its just good in hindsight.....

Since the #2 hit we can cross that off the overdue list. but I'm still looking
for the overdue numbers of 3*5*7*8 to be within the next few draws as these are
still the Hot astro and non astro keys...

The non astro reasoning behind the overdue part of the equation is the 3 is in
the 7th draw, the 5 is in the 5th draw, the 7 is in the 8th draw and the 8 is in
the 4th draw....In the uploaded file #2 you can see at a glance that key numbers
within the pick 4 usually repeat within 5-12 draws...

--- In PivotPointResearchInc@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" <pvtpoint@...> wrote:
>
> According to our software we see several planetary dates the following numbers
hit over the past 5 years......we also have the number 3 and 7 as being over
due....Though ive been only working on the cycles of the triple digit pick 4
numbers (5/9-11, or and 5/21-23 for the next set...these dates also coincide
with some personal lucky transits.....)
>
> The following numbers are also worth looking into for tonight's draw..
> 4/30/2010....
>
> the Hot numbers for tonight are 2*3*7*5*6*8 with the hotest being 3756 as they
are overdue.,However the 2 main key numbers should be 3 and 7........after going
over several combinations the following dates are the exact hits for the number
2378
> 5/5/2006
> 3/8/2007
> 4/21/2007
> 12/28/2007
> 11/15/2008
> 12/16/2008
> 4/30/2009
> 7/21/2009
> 8/25/2009
> 3/2/2010
>
> SEVERAL PLANETS ARE AGAIN IN SIMILAR SIGNS.........we also have an exact
anniversary date.....
>
> we also never had an 8 in the first position so we can just play several
straight bets with the other numbers
>  5/5/2006 Evening   3 2 7 8   4  20
>  3/8/2007 Evening   3 7 2 8   4  20
>  4/21/2007 Evening  2 8 7 3   4  20
>  12/28/2007 Mid-day 3 8 7 2   4  20
>  11/15/2008 Mid-day 2 3 8 7   4  20
>  12/16/2008 Mid-day 3 8 7 2   4  20
>  4/30/2009 Evening  2 3 7 8   4  20
>  7/21/2009 Evening  7 2 8 3   4  20
>  8/25/2009 Mid-day  7 3 2 8   4  20
>  3/2/2010 Mid-day   7 3 8 2   4
>
> i think we should at lest have 2 out of the 4 if not all as
>  astro part 2 is in the 8th,3 11th, 5&8 5th and 7 is in the 10th just past the
MC......also the following are the groups
>
>        Card    Fix      Mut
>
> 26H 	  1
> 28C 	 	  2
> 9G  3
> 14G  4
> 16A  5
> 23I 	 	  6
> 14F 	 	  7
> 14A  8
> 28K 	  9
> 26H 	  10
> -26
> 20A  12
> -21
> 24C 	 	  PFT
>

Hello, I wonder if anybody in the group knows of software that will
allow me to find every combination of 5 numbers from say a batch of 20
numbers. which means if the winning combination is within these 20
numbers then you have the winning combination.

Thanks in anticipation.
Regards Bob.

Robert wrote:
>
> Tonight's NY pick 4 was 0622.....only 1 of The "Hot" overdue numbers
> came out with the 6 ....3 of the 4 were mutable numbers as can be
> viewed in the new file link: 4.30.2010 pick 4 astro numbers.doc
>
> The astro number 6 was at 26 Sag and was in the 2nd house which i
> neglected to mention in the last post.... since I keyed in on the 3
> and 7 the drawn number was not in my personal picks.......But there
> were 3 keys within the pick 4 non the less....6*2*2
>
> This is the trouble i found with Gillen's type research, sometimes its
> spot on wile others its just good in hindsight.....
>
> Since the #2 hit we can cross that off the overdue list. but I'm still
> looking for the overdue numbers of 3*5*7*8 to be within the next few
> draws as these are still the Hot astro and non astro keys...
>
> The non astro reasoning behind the overdue part of the equation is the
> 3 is in the 7th draw, the 5 is in the 5th draw, the 7 is in the 8th
> draw and the 8 is in the 4th draw....In the uploaded file #2 you can
> see at a glance that key numbers within the pick 4 usually repeat
> within 5-12 draws...
>
> --- In PivotPointResearchInc@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:PivotPointResearchInc%40yahoogroups.com>, "Robert"
> <pvtpoint@...> wrote:
> >
> > According to our software we see several planetary dates the
> following numbers hit over the past 5 years......we also have the
> number 3 and 7 as being over due....Though ive been only working on
> the cycles of the triple digit pick 4 numbers (5/9-11, or and 5/21-23
> for the next set...these dates also coincide with some personal lucky
> transits.....)
> >
> > The following numbers are also worth looking into for tonight's draw..
> > 4/30/2010....
> >
> > the Hot numbers for tonight are 2*3*7*5*6*8 with the hotest being
> 3756 as they are overdue.,However the 2 main key numbers should be 3
> and 7........after going over several combinations the following dates
> are the exact hits for the number 2378
> > 5/5/2006
> > 3/8/2007
> > 4/21/2007
> > 12/28/2007
> > 11/15/2008
> > 12/16/2008
> > 4/30/2009
> > 7/21/2009
> > 8/25/2009
> > 3/2/2010
> >
> > SEVERAL PLANETS ARE AGAIN IN SIMILAR SIGNS.........we also have an
> exact anniversary date.....
> >
> > we also never had an 8 in the first position so we can just play
> several straight bets with the other numbers
> > 5/5/2006 Evening 3 2 7 8 4 20
> > 3/8/2007 Evening 3 7 2 8 4 20
> > 4/21/2007 Evening 2 8 7 3 4 20
> > 12/28/2007 Mid-day 3 8 7 2 4 20
> > 11/15/2008 Mid-day 2 3 8 7 4 20
> > 12/16/2008 Mid-day 3 8 7 2 4 20
> > 4/30/2009 Evening 2 3 7 8 4 20
> > 7/21/2009 Evening 7 2 8 3 4 20
> > 8/25/2009 Mid-day 7 3 2 8 4 20
> > 3/2/2010 Mid-day 7 3 8 2 4
> >
> > i think we should at lest have 2 out of the 4 if not all as
> > astro part 2 is in the 8th,3 11th, 5&8 5th and 7 is in the 10th just
> past the MC......also the following are the groups
> >
> > Card Fix Mut
> >
> > 26H 1
> > 28C 2
> > 9G 3
> > 14G 4
> > 16A 5
> > 23I 6
> > 14F 7
> > 14A 8
> > 28K 9
> > 26H 10
> > -26
> > 20A 12
> > -21
> > 24C PFT
> >
>
>

Todays NY pick 4 was:

  05/01/2010 Mid-day 7 3 1 5.......!!!!!

  04/30/2010 Evening 0 6 2 2
  04/30/2010 Mid-day 9 1 1 0


"Since the #2 hit we can cross that off the overdue list. but I'm still looking
for the overdue numbers of 3*5*7*8 to be within the next few draws as these are
still the Hot astro and non astro keys"

So we can now cross off ALL the key numbers except for the #8..as we had 3 of
the 4 key numbers hit in today draw!! 7*3*1*5 on 5/1/10

This is what I meant when i said no matter how much research goes into a project
"LUCK" still plays a big part within the winning outcome

However when the time is right our new software's output should definitely play
a major role in narrowing down the odds to make it that much easier to hit....as
you can see by reading several of my past posts the reasoning is
astrologically,mathematically and statistically sound

  Again I had 3 out of 4 numbers without any "lucky" transits to my personal
chart!!....Imagine what could be done on extremely lucky periods..........

I wish I had this software a few months ago when Jupiter was Conjunct my POF
......when I hit the pick 3 7 times in 28 draws....

I was winning $250-$500 at a time......but could have been winning $2500-$5000
using the pick 4 research instead of the pick 3...


  04/30/2010 Evening 0 6 2 2
  04/30/2010 Mid-day 9 1 1 0




--- In PivotPointResearchInc@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" <pvtpoint@...> wrote:
>
> Tonight's NY pick 4 was 0622.....only 1 of The "Hot" overdue numbers came out
with the 6 ....3 of the 4 were mutable numbers as can be viewed in the new file
link: 4.30.2010 pick 4 astro numbers.doc
>
> The astro number 6 was at 26 Sag and was in the 2nd house which i neglected to
mention in the last post.... since I keyed in on the 3 and 7 the drawn number
was not in my personal picks.......But there were 3 keys within the pick 4 non
the less....6*2*2
>
> This is the trouble i found with Gillen's type research, sometimes its spot on
wile others its just good in hindsight.....
>
> Since the #2 hit we can cross that off the overdue list. but I'm still looking
for the overdue numbers of 3*5*7*8 to be within the next few draws as these are
still the Hot astro and non astro keys...
>
> The non astro reasoning behind the overdue part of the equation is the 3 is in
the 7th draw, the 5 is in the 5th draw, the 7 is in the 8th draw and the 8 is in
the 4th draw....In the uploaded file #2 you can see at a glance that key numbers
within the pick 4 usually repeat within 5-12 draws...
>
> --- In PivotPointResearchInc@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" <pvtpoint@> wrote:
> >
> > According to our software we see several planetary dates the following
numbers hit over the past 5 years......we also have the number 3 and 7 as being
over due....Though ive been only working on the cycles of the triple digit pick
4 numbers (5/9-11, or and 5/21-23 for the next set...these dates also coincide
with some personal lucky transits.....)
> >
> > The following numbers are also worth looking into for tonight's draw..
> > 4/30/2010....
> >
> > the Hot numbers for tonight are 2*3*7*5*6*8 with the hotest being 3756 as
they are overdue.,However the 2 main key numbers should be 3 and 7........after
going over several combinations the following dates are the exact hits for the
number 2378
> > 5/5/2006
> > 3/8/2007
> > 4/21/2007
> > 12/28/2007
> > 11/15/2008
> > 12/16/2008
> > 4/30/2009
> > 7/21/2009
> > 8/25/2009
> > 3/2/2010
> >
> > SEVERAL PLANETS ARE AGAIN IN SIMILAR SIGNS.........we also have an exact
anniversary date.....
> >
> > we also never had an 8 in the first position so we can just play several
straight bets with the other numbers
> >  5/5/2006 Evening   3 2 7 8   4  20
> >  3/8/2007 Evening   3 7 2 8   4  20
> >  4/21/2007 Evening  2 8 7 3   4  20
> >  12/28/2007 Mid-day 3 8 7 2   4  20
> >  11/15/2008 Mid-day 2 3 8 7   4  20
> >  12/16/2008 Mid-day 3 8 7 2   4  20
> >  4/30/2009 Evening  2 3 7 8   4  20
> >  7/21/2009 Evening  7 2 8 3   4  20
> >  8/25/2009 Mid-day  7 3 2 8   4  20
> >  3/2/2010 Mid-day   7 3 8 2   4
> >
> > i think we should at lest have 2 out of the 4 if not all as
> >  astro part 2 is in the 8th,3 11th, 5&8 5th and 7 is in the 10th just past
the MC......also the following are the groups
> >
> >        Card    Fix      Mut
> >
> > 26H 	  1
> > 28C 	 	  2
> > 9G  3
> > 14G  4
> > 16A  5
> > 23I 	 	  6
> > 14F 	 	  7
> > 14A  8
> > 28K 	  9
> > 26H 	  10
> > -26
> > 20A  12
> > -21
> > 24C 	 	  PFT
> >
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Robert

To: PivotPointResearchInc@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 9:21 PM

Subject: [PivotPointResearchInc] Re: NY Pick 4 Possibility

 

Todays NY pick 4 was:

05/01/2010 Mid-day 7 3 1 5.......!!!!!

04/30/2010 Evening 0 6 2 2
04/30/2010 Mid-day 9 1 1 0

"Since the #2 hit we can cross that off the overdue list. but I'm still looking for the overdue numbers of 3*5*7*8 to be within the next few draws as these are still the Hot astro and non astro keys"

So we can now cross off ALL the key numbers except for the #8..as we had 3 of the 4 key numbers hit in today draw!! 7*3*1*5 on 5/1/10

This is what I meant when i said no matter how much research goes into a project "LUCK" still plays a big part within the winning outcome

However when the time is right our new software's output should definitely play a major role in narrowing down the odds to make it that much easier to hit....as you can see by reading several of my past posts the reasoning is astrologically,mathematically and statistically sound

Again I had 3 out of 4 numbers without any "lucky" transits to my personal chart!!....Imagine what could be done on extremely lucky periods..........

I wish I had this software a few months ago when Jupiter was Conjunct my POF ......when I hit the pick 3 7 times in 28 draws....

I was winning $250-$500 at a time......but could have been winning $2500-$5000 using the pick 4 research instead of the pick 3...

04/30/2010 Evening 0 6 2 2
04/30/2010 Mid-day 9 1 1 0


--- In PivotPointResearchInc@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" <pvtpoint@...> wrote:
>
> Tonight's NY pick 4 was 0622.....only 1 of The "Hot" overdue numbers came out with the 6 ....3 of the 4 were mutable numbers as can be viewed in the new file link: 4.30.2010 pick 4 astro numbers.doc
>
> The astro number 6 was at 26 Sag and was in the 2nd house which i neglected to mention in the last post.... since I keyed in on the 3 and 7 the drawn number was not in my personal picks.......But there were 3 keys within the pick 4 non the less....6*2*2
>
> This is the trouble i found with Gillen's type research, sometimes its spot on wile others its just good in hindsight.....
>
> Since the #2 hit we can cross that off the overdue list. but I'm still looking for the overdue numbers of 3*5*7*8 to be within the next few draws as these are still the Hot astro and non astro keys...
>
> The non astro reasoning behind the overdue part of the equation is the 3 is in the 7th draw, the 5 is in the 5th draw, the 7 is in the 8th draw and the 8 is in the 4th draw....In the uploaded file #2 you can see at a glance that key numbers within the pick 4 usually repeat within 5-12 draws...
>
> --- In PivotPointResearchInc@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" <pvtpoint@> wrote:
> >
> > According to our software we see several planetary dates the following numbers hit over the past 5 years......we also have the number 3 and 7 as being over due....Though ive been only working on the cycles of the triple digit pick 4 numbers (5/9-11, or and 5/21-23 for the next set...these dates also coincide with some personal lucky transits.....)
> >
> > The following numbers are also worth looking into for tonight's draw..
> > 4/30/2010....
> >
> > the Hot numbers for tonight are 2*3*7*5*6*8 with the hotest being 3756 as they are overdue.,However the 2 main key numbers should be 3 and 7........after going over several combinations the following dates are the exact hits for the number 2378
> > 5/5/2006
> > 3/8/2007
> > 4/21/2007
> > 12/28/2007
> > 11/15/2008
> > 12/16/2008
> > 4/30/2009
> > 7/21/2009
> > 8/25/2009
> > 3/2/2010
> >
> > SEVERAL PLANETS ARE AGAIN IN SIMILAR SIGNS.........we also have an exact anniversary date.....
> >
> > we also never had an 8 in the first position so we can just play several straight bets with the other numbers
> > 5/5/2006 Evening 3 2 7 8 4 20
> > 3/8/2007 Evening 3 7 2 8 4 20
> > 4/21/2007 Evening 2 8 7 3 4 20
> > 12/28/2007 Mid-day 3 8 7 2 4 20
> > 11/15/2008 Mid-day 2 3 8 7 4 20
> > 12/16/2008 Mid-day 3 8 7 2 4 20
> > 4/30/2009 Evening 2 3 7 8 4 20
> > 7/21/2009 Evening 7 2 8 3 4 20
> > 8/25/2009 Mid-day 7 3 2 8 4 20
> > 3/2/2010 Mid-day 7 3 8 2 4
> >
> > i think we should at lest have 2 out of the 4 if not all as
> > astro part 2 is in the 8th,3 11th, 5&8 5th and 7 is in the 10th just past the MC......also the following are the groups
> >
> > Card Fix Mut
> >
> > 26H 1
> > 28C 2
> > 9G 3
> > 14G 4
> > 16A 5
> > 23I 6
> > 14F 7
> > 14A 8
> > 28K 9
> > 26H 10
> > -26
> > 20A 12
> > -21
> > 24C PFT
> >
>

----- Original Message -----

From: pvtpoint@...

To: PivotPointResearchInc@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 9:43 PM

Subject: Re: [PivotPointResearchInc] Re: NY Pick 4 Possibility

 

In a message dated 5/1/2010 2:29:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, peterpalaskas@hol.gr writes:

Hi Robert

 

Wich software are you talking about ?

I'm building the number software as a standalone and add on to my existing GGU software.......!!

 

As of now its only set for NY lottery but when its released (hopefully by the end of the year) im hoping to have a database of multiple state and country lottery pick 3,4,5,6 and power ball going back as far as i can get...I however feel 5 years should be a minimum to test.....

 

I'm going to be posting an overview of the general software on the web over the next few days along with starting a brand new web group. The new group will strictly be for the research and testing of lottery, casino  horse racing and techniques of personal lucky timing .....in both astro and non astro scans.....

 

The astro tools incorporated in my existing GGU software have been modified to scan each draw by planetary fingerprint to isolate hot root numbers, astro numbers, key numbers, numbers by sign, degree and a host of other techniques....

 

Theirs nothing like it any ware!..........Its totally unique.....!

 

Thanks

Rob Giordano

 

 

In a message dated 5/2/2010 12:51:02 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
astro1397@... writes:
This is the format that dad wants to use in the book, giving a key
number, and what position it would fall in, using the Mercury or
non-Mercury. With the moon in Sagittarius, notice how the Mercury
numbers dominated all the tracks, and how many of the supers were hit.
While I have dad's attention for the next few days, I'll try to feature
some of these examples, that will be in the book, while I'm in the
process of answering all of your questions.


This is an email I sent to Tom Gillen regarding some needed additions to the new
updated lottery book..... hopefully due out by the end of 2010-mid 2011....

If this info is added as requested I feel it will be a new astrological
masterpiece for all to embrace!

Hi again Tom

Thank's for the new material overview...

I have a few questions though....

Over the past few months I've restarted my research on your dads work and found
a few things in the old lottery book that should be addressed...

1) I personally feel as your father also does that number crunching alone is NOT
the answer to hitting the lottery or horse pick 3-6 ......I recently found
through personal research that a persons natal "Lucky time" must also be
included in the equation.....

Even though the root numbers, key numbers and astro numbers narrow down the bet
and draw down the odds of a winning ticket I feel without a few luck transits
your chances are 70-30% you will loose ......

What I think your father should do is go extensively into the actual timing of
personal luck cycles..

I think a thorough examination should be done on Transit to natal aspects, Part
of Fortune aspects to Transiting planets, Progressed chart research on lucky
timing, Solar and Lunar arc research as well as some personal unique techniques
your father found to work well over the years...both on himself and others.

In other words how does a person key in on his personal "Lucky Time"....

I read in several places that your father won more often in certain cycles then
at others but what exactly ARE  these cycles and how do we find them.....


A recent personal test on the subject is I had started researching your father
along with a few other astrological and mathematical systems on narrowing down
the odds in the NY pick 3 but had very little success until Transiting Jupiter
exactly conjunct my natal Part of Fortune at 2 Pisces in my 8th house on Jan 29
2010......

Up until this date I went to Atlantic city and played many different games of
chance with several close calls but no big wins ....It wasn't until the exact
conjunction date that i started to hit the pick 3. I hit the pick 3  a total
period of 7 times in 14 days!.....

It was as if I could do no wrong until the conjunction past about 5 degrees from
my POF......However on the last hit Feb 15 2010 i keyed in on the exact winning
number with a 24 ticket play but when i went to look for my ticket i noticed the
girl who took the numbers played 23 numbers correct and made 1 mistake......THE
WINNING ONE!

After this point I have had 2 of 3 in the pick 4 dozens of times as well as 3 of
4 in the pick 4 but no consistent wins other then a few box bets paying very
little.....

For this reason I feel the other periods of lucky timing should be addressed
other then this once in 12 year aspect......

2) Also after researching your fathers notes on planetary hour timing I noticed
in several places he uses a formula of taking the time of sunrise to the time of
sunset then dividing the period by 14.....

I have read several methods of planetary hour research from several different
authors but never found this calculation to be divided by 14?

Practicing magicians, witchcraft artists, old school astrological election
timing groups and many planetary hour authors including spherical use a division
of 12?.......then subdividing by 4 min periods for the sub cycle periods..

Why does he use 14?

can your father also add to this method?

3)  ....I noticed in your last along with a few newer posts that the new
structure of the actual picking of the number groups or described method is
using 2 different root numbers for say the pick 4 ....one in the front and one
in the back end of the pick 4?

Rather then just looking for 1 overdue or astro "Root number" for the winning
number to come from...

IE ..Root 1 in the pick 3 has a total of 24 number Combinations
       Root 1 in the pick 4 has about 81 combinations and so on......

How do you use multiple root numbers to narrow down the winning group/number?

Will this also be in the new book?

4)  I'm also still trying to figure out how to use the "number template" this is
not that clear in the older lottery book........There is also nothing on the
planetary make up of the Red, Green and Yellow day...How are they figured
without using the old computers......

Tom I personally have nothing but respect for you and your father work and feel
he is one of the astrological masters of both the 20th and now 21st
century....."Still Living".......!!

And am so happy to see he's updating his older material......I would love to
meet up with you guys again at a local dog or horse track or even better
hopefully a new seminar sometime soon....! ...

Thanks again Tom and send my regards to your pop and mom....along with Hoping
all is well...

Thanks
Robert Giordano
www.pvtpointmktres.com

Due to astro and Hot overdue numbers FOR the NY pick 3 we have the following
numbers as keys:

ROOT 4 With Key 8

Combo number bets are:

877...
868...
859...
850...
832...
841...

Straight number bets are:

877...Hottest!
886...Hottest!
688...Hottest!
859...Hottest!
589
580
085
823
283
841.....

The cycle for a double digit pick 3 is also about to click... say about 75-80%
probable over the next 5 draws.... But will it contain the Hot Root and
Key?.......Lol ....As Gann would say "Only Time Will Tell"

Tonights Eve NY Pick 3 draw was 233 a double number!:....we had 2 out of 3 again

The doubles were keyed on target!... however the winning number came from Root 8
group and not 4.....

  However the Root 4 Key 8 numbers are still in play for next few draws...

05/02/2010 Evening 2 3 3
05/02/2010 Mid-day 6 6 0



--- In PivotPointResearchInc@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" <pvtpoint@...> wrote:
>
> Due to astro and Hot overdue numbers FOR the NY pick 3 we have the following
numbers as keys:
>
> ROOT 4 With Key 8
>
> Combo number bets are:
>
> 877...
> 868...
> 859...
> 850...
> 832...
> 841...
>
> Straight number bets are:
>
> 877...Hottest!
> 886...Hottest!
> 688...Hottest!
> 859...Hottest!
> 589
> 580
> 085
> 823
> 283
> 841.....
>
> The cycle for a double digit pick 3 is also about to click... say about 75-80%
probable over the next 5 draws.... But will it contain the Hot Root and
Key?.......Lol ....As Gann would say "Only Time Will Tell"
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Robert

To: PivotPointResearchInc@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 3:26 AM

Subject: [PivotPointResearchInc] Re: Pick 3 possibily for the next few draws starting 5/2/10

 

Tonights Eve NY Pick 3 draw was 233 a double number!:....we had 2 out of 3 again

The doubles were keyed on target!... however the winning number came from Root 8 group and not 4.....

However the Root 4 Key 8 numbers are still in play for next few draws...

05/02/2010 Evening 2 3 3
05/02/2010 Mid-day 6 6 0



--- In PivotPointResearchInc@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" <pvtpoint@...> wrote:
>
> Due to astro and Hot overdue numbers FOR the NY pick 3 we have the following numbers as keys:
>
> ROOT 4 With Key 8
>
> Combo number bets are:
>
> 877...
> 868...
> 859...
> 850...
> 832...
> 841...
>
> Straight number bets are:
>
> 877...Hottest!
> 886...Hottest!
> 688...Hottest!
> 859...Hottest!
> 589
> 580
> 085
> 823
> 283
> 841.....
>
> The cycle for a double digit pick 3 is also about to click... say about 75-80% probable over the next 5 draws.... But will it contain the Hot Root and Key?.......Lol ....As Gann would say "Only Time Will Tell"
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Peter Palaskas

To: PivotPointResearchInc@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 6:07 PM

Subject: Re: [PivotPointResearchInc] Re: Pick 3 possibily for the next few draws starting 5/2/10

 

Robert

 

have you used other arabic parts ,than fortuna ?

 

 

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Robert

To: PivotPointResearchInc@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 3:26 AM

Subject: [PivotPointResearchInc] Re: Pick 3 possibily for the next few draws starting 5/2/10

 

Tonights Eve NY Pick 3 draw was 233 a double number!:....we had 2 out of 3 again

The doubles were keyed on target!... however the winning number came from Root 8 group and not 4.....

However the Root 4 Key 8 numbers are still in play for next few draws...

05/02/2010 Evening 2 3 3
05/02/2010 Mid-day 6 6 0



--- In PivotPointResearchInc@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" <pvtpoint@...> wrote:
>
> Due to astro and Hot overdue numbers FOR the NY pick 3 we have the following numbers as keys:
>
> ROOT 4 With Key 8
>
> Combo number bets are:
>
> 877...
> 868...
> 859...
> 850...
> 832...
> 841...
>
> Straight number bets are:
>
> 877...Hottest!
> 886...Hottest!
> 688...Hottest!
> 859...Hottest!
> 589
> 580
> 085
> 823
> 283
> 841.....
>
> The cycle for a double digit pick 3 is also about to click... say about 75-80% probable over the next 5 draws.... But will it contain the Hot Root and Key?.......Lol ....As Gann would say "Only Time Will Tell"
>

Response to my questions.....

1a) Hi Robert:

Dad always told me that the luck transit is by the degree of the part of fortune
that is natally in the chart, and is activated by transits of the moon, the
ascendant, and sun. Also to other people who have the same aspect, and it's
useful if you're playing quick-picks, or entering contests. I can remember, when
he took me to the supermarket to get some lottery tickets...when The Florida
promotion where they would randomly give away $1,000.00. He told me he was going
to win that prize that day...and he did; but he doesn't depemd on it to win the
lottery. This is forecasting, just like any mundane event.

2a) Dad had a planetary watch patented back in the 1970's that divided the
planetary segments by approximately 40 minutes each. There were 14 segment. This
will be featured in the book. The #14 has a 100% accuracy of coming in second
with the same group of the astro numbers. If #14 is out of the group, it will
fail to hit. Go back eight years on May 1, for the Fantasy5, and you'll see the
accuracy. In the pick-4 tonight, watch four the #0 to be the fourth digit, and
why a double number will be present. In Orlando, Florida, around the third race,
the 2-6 is at the back end. The top four numbers are 4-5-6-8 in the front.
Around race 11, it's 1-2 with 3-6-7-8 in the front, and round race 16, it's 2-3
with 4-5-6-8 in front.
Notice that the back numbers are all Mercury. If the lottery calls for single
digits, each of the front numbers are played once--which is six combinations. If
it's double, each combination is played twice--which is four combinations in a
Straight -Box.

3a) A root number is used to come up with a single number prediction. Example:
Today, Monday, we know that the midday drawing on this day in 2009, was 3-6-5-1.
Looking at the time frame, this would fall around the 8th race, locally. The
same pattern would be used...3-6-5-1. The pattern of these numbers in this group
could be used from the 5th through 7th race. We look at the astro numbers, and
we can apply them also at this time, in which 2, 7 or 8 could be placed in the
mix.

4a) The color codes might be set up in the book by date, depending on how many
pages the AFA would want for the total book.


--- In PivotPointResearchInc@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" <pvtpoint@...> wrote:
>
> In a message dated 5/2/2010 12:51:02 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, astro1397@...
writes:
> This is the format that dad wants to use in the book, giving a key
> number, and what position it would fall in, using the Mercury or
> non-Mercury. With the moon in Sagittarius, notice how the Mercury
> numbers dominated all the tracks, and how many of the supers were hit.
> While I have dad's attention for the next few days, I'll try to feature
> some of these examples, that will be in the book, while I'm in the
> process of answering all of your questions.
>
>
> This is an email I sent to Tom Gillen regarding some needed additions to the
new updated lottery book..... hopefully due out by the end of 2010-mid 2011....
>
> If this info is added as requested I feel it will be a new astrological
masterpiece for all to embrace!
>
> Hi again Tom
>
> Thank's for the new material overview...
>
> I have a few questions though....
>
> Over the past few months I've restarted my research on your dads work and
found a few things in the old lottery book that should be addressed...
>
> 1) I personally feel as your father also does that number crunching alone is
NOT the answer to hitting the lottery or horse pick 3-6 ......I recently found
through personal research that a persons natal "Lucky time" must also be
included in the equation.....
>
> Even though the root numbers, key numbers and astro numbers narrow down the
bet and draw down the odds of a winning ticket I feel without a few luck
transits your chances are 70-30% you will loose ......
>
> What I think your father should do is go extensively into the actual timing of
personal luck cycles..
>
> I think a thorough examination should be done on Transit to natal aspects,
Part of Fortune aspects to Transiting planets, Progressed chart research on
lucky timing, Solar and Lunar arc research as well as some personal unique
techniques your father found to work well over the years...both on himself and
others.
>
> In other words how does a person key in on his personal "Lucky Time"....
>
> I read in several places that your father won more often in certain cycles
then at others but what exactly ARE  these cycles and how do we find them.....
>
>
> A recent personal test on the subject is I had started researching your father
along with a few other astrological and mathematical systems on narrowing down
the odds in the NY pick 3 but had very little success until Transiting Jupiter
exactly conjunct my natal Part of Fortune at 2 Pisces in my 8th house on Jan 29
2010......
>
> Up until this date I went to Atlantic city and played many different games of
chance with several close calls but no big wins ....It wasn't until the exact
conjunction date that i started to hit the pick 3. I hit the pick 3  a total
period of 7 times in 14 days!.....
>
> It was as if I could do no wrong until the conjunction past about 5 degrees
from my POF......However on the last hit Feb 15 2010 i keyed in on the exact
winning number with a 24 ticket play but when i went to look for my ticket i
noticed the girl who took the numbers played 23 numbers correct and made 1
mistake......THE WINNING ONE!
>
> After this point I have had 2 of 3 in the pick 4 dozens of times as well as 3
of 4 in the pick 4 but no consistent wins other then a few box bets paying very
little.....
>
> For this reason I feel the other periods of lucky timing should be addressed
other then this once in 12 year aspect......
>
> 2) Also after researching your fathers notes on planetary hour timing I
noticed in several places he uses a formula of taking the time of sunrise to the
time of sunset then dividing the period by 14.....
>
> I have read several methods of planetary hour research from several different
authors but never found this calculation to be divided by 14?
>
> Practicing magicians, witchcraft artists, old school astrological election
timing groups and many planetary hour authors including spherical use a division
of 12?.......then subdividing by 4 min periods for the sub cycle periods..
>
> Why does he use 14?
>
> can your father also add to this method?
>
> 3)  ....I noticed in your last along with a few newer posts that the new
structure of the actual picking of the number groups or described method is
using 2 different root numbers for say the pick 4 ....one in the front and one
in the back end of the pick 4?
>
> Rather then just looking for 1 overdue or astro "Root number" for the winning
number to come from...
>
> IE ..Root 1 in the pick 3 has a total of 24 number Combinations
>       Root 1 in the pick 4 has about 81 combinations and so on......
>
> How do you use multiple root numbers to narrow down the winning group/number?
>
> Will this also be in the new book?
>
> 4)  I'm also still trying to figure out how to use the "number template" this
is not that clear in the older lottery book........There is also nothing on the
planetary make up of the Red, Green and Yellow day...How are they figured
without using the old computers......
>
> Tom I personally have nothing but respect for you and your father work and
feel he is one of the astrological masters of both the 20th and now 21st
century....."Still Living".......!!
>
> And am so happy to see he's updating his older material......I would love to
meet up with you guys again at a local dog or horse track or even better
hopefully a new seminar sometime soon....! ...
>
> Thanks again Tom and send my regards to your pop and mom....along with Hoping
all is well...
>
> Thanks
> Robert Giordano
> www.pvtpointmktres.com
>

----- Original Message -----

From: pvtpoint@...

To: PivotPointResearchInc@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 9:21 PM

Subject: Re: [PivotPointResearchInc] Re: Pick 3 possibily for the next few draws start...

 

In a message dated 5/3/2010 12:42:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, peterpalaskas@hol.gr writes:

Robert

 

you got me into lotto with all these posts !

 

 

I love stats so...

 

any good books-software on the subject  ?

 

 

Thanks

Lol...........Just be sure to bet with your head and not over it!! ......lol......

 

Several programs are Lucky Days and Winning Times....But both are just so so when it come to luck timing...But that's all they do...

 

Once my software is done it will have a host of planetary and statistical research applications for most lottery draws....At least that's the goal .....I may even build a short term intra day model for Keno....However I will also be doing an intra day program for Gann Grids first........

 

As far as books I only recommend Jack Gillen's books However they are very expensive and hard to find....All except The Key to speculation for the NY stock exchange is out of print and are being scalped online for hundreds of dollars.......

 

Gillen's books will however be a recommended reading assignment for the new software ...At least his New lottery and Stock market book.....

 

35 Years of research is a good one along with The Key to speculation for casino and lottery...Older version

 

A new updated version of the Lottery will hopefully be out by next year.......

 

As for your Part of fortune /Arabic part question .........I'm slowly testing other parts along with different aspects trying to isolate a few new Hot timing methods as well as contact a few Arabic part astrologers....I want to get the gist of the subject from those who have tested them for years.....Its not a common practice so it may take awhile.....

 

Have you ever researched the timing of luck in your travels?

 

Thanks

Rob G

 

 

lol...No i meant over the years have you researched the timing of luck..

Tell me a little about the Magi ....I was going to join....their main office is
in NY.....

I was also interested in getting some of there books but been very busy with the
new material.....

Was also going to get a reading from one of the Magi astrologers to check out
the accuracy of that system......

Are you up for the Job?.......If so give me a direct email.......

I also have about 27 people willing to participate in the POF test...

Rob G

--- In PivotPointResearchInc@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Palaskas"
<peterpalaskas@...> wrote:
>
> I spent like 3 hours in excel sorting the greek lottery ...
>
> boring and tedious work
>
> i noticed some 72 degrees to the second with natal of lotto and new lotto (dec
5 1990 first and jan something 2009)
>
>
> to the second !
>
>
> some other 72 aspects between jackpot and natal of lotto natal ..
>
> thats all
>
> but then again I remembered that I had to do a synastry between me and lotto
and wasnt that good
>
>
> isnt that the first thing to check after all ?
>
> synastry of natal and lottery natal
>
> I am into magi as i told you and some saturn clashes with my chiron etc didnt
seem promising
>
> i keep record of natals of people that have given me money since 2000
>
>
> and promiment is always   jupiter with tight orb (1-1.5 degrees to any planet
of my natal)
>
>
>
> what do you mean by lucky travel times ?
>
> day of departing from country ?
>
> would you consider that lucky ?
>
>
> i remember going summer 2007 in uk with ex girlfriend ....
> the worst travel ever in my life
>
>
> disaster .
>
> had  mars transits square my moon on departure from here
>
>
>
> these days i am again in planetary pictures
>  very interesting study
>
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: pvtpoint@...
>   To: PivotPointResearchInc@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 9:21 PM
>   Subject: Re: [PivotPointResearchInc] Re: Pick 3 possibily for the next few
draws start...
>
>
>
>
>   In a message dated 5/3/2010 12:42:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
peterpalaskas@... writes:
>     Robert
>
>     you got me into lotto with all these posts !
>
>
>     I love stats so...
>
>     any good books-software on the subject  ?
>
>
>     Thanks
>   Lol...........Just be sure to bet with your head and not over it!!
......lol......
>
>   Several programs are Lucky Days and Winning Times....But both are just so so
when it come to luck timing...But that's all they do...
>
>   Once my software is done it will have a host of planetary and statistical
research applications for most lottery draws....At least that's the goal .....I
may even build a short term intra day model for Keno....However I will also be
doing an intra day program for Gann Grids first........
>
>   As far as books I only recommend Jack Gillen's books However they are very
expensive and hard to find....All except The Key to speculation for the NY stock
exchange is out of print and are being scalped online for hundreds of
dollars.......
>
>   Gillen's books will however be a recommended reading assignment for the new
software ...At least his New lottery and Stock market book.....
>
>   35 Years of research is a good one along with The Key to speculation for
casino and lottery...Older version
>
>   A new updated version of the Lottery will hopefully be out by next
year.......
>
>   As for your Part of fortune /Arabic part question .........I'm slowly
testing other parts along with different aspects trying to isolate a few new Hot
timing methods as well as contact a few Arabic part astrologers....I want to get
the gist of the subject from those who have tested them for years.....Its not a
common practice so it may take awhile.....
>
>   Have you ever researched the timing of luck in your travels?
>
>   Thanks
>   Rob G
>

5/3/10 Day 953.......2 of 3 played......859
5/3/10 Eve 082.......2 of 3 played......832.......850...!

This Happens almost every day.....Lol...So close and yet so far..2 out of 3... 2
out of 3 ...3 out of 4!!

Even without lucky transits I feel just the law of averages should cause a few
hits by chance!

However If anyone is starting to think I should call gamblers anonymous don't
worry as each bet is relatively small...But its the only way I can gauge my
winning transits ..... as without this type of win loss data I wont be able to
figure out my personal luck cycles

Also once I get enough data I will only play around the strongest aspects and
triggers......I will also test this theory around my stock transaction timing as
well.......

Listen guys .....This is an extremely large project and my personal time is
somewhat short ....If anyone is interested in giving a helping hand be my guest
lets all start and share a lucky transit diary and post a few comments every now
and then.....as this research will help everyone....

Also Remember this site is for all to share ideas and techniques and not just
me.......So please lets do our best to get to the bottom of this extremely
elusive subject once and for all....

Remember I love to share my posts with everyone on this and other groups along
with having no problem sharing my personal hard work and research for
free...However if I feel our group to be extremely one sided as I'm starting to
see.....Ill keep the site up and running but start of a monthly "Pay" site for
just our most enthusiastic researchers....At that point this site will only be
for personal advertisements and promotions regarding our software and
products......

The choice is yours guys.....Pay a fee.... or help out on some technical
research that will inevitably help everyone within the group

Thanks

Rob Giordano

--- In PivotPointResearchInc@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" <pvtpoint@...> wrote:
>
> Tonights Eve NY Pick 3 draw was 233 a double number!:....we had 2 out of 3
again
>
> The doubles were keyed on target!... however the winning number came from Root
8 group and not 4.....
>
>  However the Root 4 Key 8 numbers are still in play for next few draws...
>
> 05/02/2010 Evening 2 3 3
> 05/02/2010 Mid-day 6 6 0
>
>
>
> --- In PivotPointResearchInc@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" <pvtpoint@> wrote:
> >
> > Due to astro and Hot overdue numbers FOR the NY pick 3 we have the following
numbers as keys:
> >
> > ROOT 4 With Key 8
> >
> > Combo number bets are:
> >
> > 877...
> > 868...
> > 859...
> > 850...
> > 832...
> > 841...
> >
> > Straight number bets are:
> >
> > 877...Hottest!
> > 886...Hottest!
> > 688...Hottest!
> > 859...Hottest!
> > 589
> > 580
> > 085
> > 823
> > 283
> > 841.....
> >
> > The cycle for a double digit pick 3 is also about to click... say about
75-80% probable over the next 5 draws.... But will it contain the Hot Root and
Key?.......Lol ....As Gann would say "Only Time Will Tell"
> >
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Robert

To: PivotPointResearchInc@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 10:05 PM

Subject: [PivotPointResearchInc] Re: Pick 3 possibily for the next few draws start...

 

lol...No i meant over the years have you researched the timing of luck..

Tell me a little about the Magi ....I was going to join....their main office is in NY.....

I was also interested in getting some of there books but been very busy with the new material.....

Was also going to get a reading from one of the Magi astrologers to check out the accuracy of that system......

Are you up for the Job?.......If so give me a direct email.......

I also have about 27 people willing to participate in the POF test...

Rob G

--- In PivotPointResearchInc@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Palaskas" <peterpalaskas@...> wrote:
>
> I spent like 3 hours in excel sorting the greek lottery ...
>
> boring and tedious work
>
> i noticed some 72 degrees to the second with natal of lotto and new lotto (dec 5 1990 first and jan something 2009)
>
>
> to the second !
>
>
> some other 72 aspects between jackpot and natal of lotto natal ..
>
> thats all
>
> but then again I remembered that I had to do a synastry between me and lotto and wasnt that good
>
>
> isnt that the first thing to check after all ?
>
> synastry of natal and lottery natal
>
> I am into magi as i told you and some saturn clashes with my chiron etc didnt seem promising
>
> i keep record of natals of people that have given me money since 2000
>
>
> and promiment is always jupiter with tight orb (1-1.5 degrees to any planet of my natal)
>
>
>
> what do you mean by lucky travel times ?
>
> day of departing from country ?
>
> would you consider that lucky ?
>
>
> i remember going summer 2007 in uk with ex girlfriend ....
> the worst travel ever in my life
>
>
> disaster .
>
> had mars transits square my moon on departure from here
>
>
>
> these days i am again in planetary pictures
> very interesting study
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: pvtpoint@...
> To: PivotPointResearchInc@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 9:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [PivotPointResearchInc] Re: Pick 3 possibily for the next few draws start...
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 5/3/2010 12:42:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, peterpalaskas@... writes:
> Robert
>
> you got me into lotto with all these posts !
>
>
> I love stats so...
>
> any good books-software on the subject ?
>
>
> Thanks
> Lol...........Just be sure to bet with your head and not over it!! ......lol......
>
> Several programs are Lucky Days and Winning Times....But both are just so so when it come to luck timing...But that's all they do...
>
> Once my software is done it will have a host of planetary and statistical research applications for most lottery draws....At least that's the goal .....I may even build a short term intra day model for Keno....However I will also be doing an intra day program for Gann Grids first........
>
> As far as books I only recommend Jack Gillen's books However they are very expensive and hard to find....All except The Key to speculation for the NY stock exchange is out of print and are being scalped online for hundreds of dollars.......
>
> Gillen's books will however be a recommended reading assignment for the new software ...At least his New lottery and Stock market book.....
>
> 35 Years of research is a good one along with The Key to speculation for casino and lottery...Older version
>
> A new updated version of the Lottery will hopefully be out by next year.......
>
> As for your Part of fortune /Arabic part question .........I'm slowly testing other parts along with different aspects trying to isolate a few new Hot timing methods as well as contact a few Arabic part astrologers....I want to get the gist of the subject from those who have tested them for years.....Its not a common practice so it may take awhile.....
>
> Have you ever researched the timing of luck in your travels?
>
> Thanks
> Rob G
>

Pete

In everyone's life there are periods of "You can do no wrong" Along with periods
of "YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING RIGHT"

This holds true for anyone who gambles.....be it casino, horseracing...As well
as day or short terming the markets.....

I'm sure even you had the experience of wanting to get in the market or play a
specific number only to be called away and totally forget about the issue at
hand .........And LOOSE OUT on a potential golden opportunity!

Or to play a number repeatedly only to miss 1 days bet and have that number come
out that draw....

Or in my case hit the pick 3 7 times in 2 weeks but on the last hit play 24
numbers which included the winning one then realize the girl placed 23 in
correct and made a one mistake ....THE WINNING TICKET!

Along with other times be on an extreme "Hot streak at the track, casino, Market
or even randomly playing a number and win....

Its these hot and cold streaks that I'm interested to learn more about...Luck is
just the name most give periods of unexpected windfalls ...

Rob G

--- In PivotPointResearchInc@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Palaskas"
<peterpalaskas@...> wrote:
>
>  I dont believe in luck :
>
> I like the quote :
>
> "Luck is a crossroad where preparation and opportunity meet"
>
> where opportunity is :"in tune with tranists and cycles in general"
>
>
>
> For me luck is kind of a childish word, if you know what I mean
>
>
> Has some chaotic connotations if you will.
>
>
> That is my personal belief of course
>
> That there is a system ,a holly grail out there ,that I believe 100% .
>
> So ,yes my friend put me in the list
>
>
> Interesting project
>
> ps  not for the money ,but for the pursuit of it
> ALWAYS
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Robert
>   To: PivotPointResearchInc@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 10:05 PM
>   Subject: [PivotPointResearchInc] Re: Pick 3 possibily for the next few draws
start...
>
>
>
>   lol...No i meant over the years have you researched the timing of luck..
>
>   Tell me a little about the Magi ....I was going to join....their main office
is in NY.....
>
>   I was also interested in getting some of there books but been very busy with
the new material.....
>
>   Was also going to get a reading from one of the Magi astrologers to check
out the accuracy of that system......
>
>   Are you up for the Job?.......If so give me a direct email.......
>
>   I also have about 27 people willing to participate in the POF test...
>
>   Rob G
>
>   --- In PivotPointResearchInc@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Palaskas"
<peterpalaskas@> wrote:
>   >
>   > I spent like 3 hours in excel sorting the greek lottery ...
>   >
>   > boring and tedious work
>   >
>   > i noticed some 72 degrees to the second with natal of lotto and new lotto
(dec 5 1990 first and jan something 2009)
>   >
>   >
>   > to the second !
>   >
>   >
>   > some other 72 aspects between jackpot and natal of lotto natal ..
>   >
>   > thats all
>   >
>   > but then again I remembered that I had to do a synastry between me and
lotto and wasnt that good
>   >
>   >
>   > isnt that the first thing to check after all ?
>   >
>   > synastry of natal and lottery natal
>   >
>   > I am into magi as i told you and some saturn clashes with my chiron etc
didnt seem promising
>   >
>   > i keep record of natals of people that have given me money since 2000
>   >
>   >
>   > and promiment is always jupiter with tight orb (1-1.5 degrees to any
planet of my natal)
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > what do you mean by lucky travel times ?
>   >
>   > day of departing from country ?
>   >
>   > would you consider that lucky ?
>   >
>   >
>   > i remember going summer 2007 in uk with ex girlfriend ....
>   > the worst travel ever in my life
>   >
>   >
>   > disaster .
>   >
>   > had mars transits square my moon on departure from here
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > these days i am again in planetary pictures
>   > very interesting study
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > ----- Original Message -----
>   > From: pvtpoint@
>   > To: PivotPointResearchInc@yahoogroups.com
>   > Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 9:21 PM
>   > Subject: Re: [PivotPointResearchInc] Re: Pick 3 possibily for the next few
draws start...
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > In a message dated 5/3/2010 12:42:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
peterpalaskas@ writes:
>   > Robert
>   >
>   > you got me into lotto with all these posts !
>   >
>   >
>   > I love stats so...
>   >
>   > any good books-software on the subject ?
>   >
>   >
>   > Thanks
>   > Lol...........Just be sure to bet with your head and not over it!!
......lol......
>   >
>   > Several programs are Lucky Days and Winning Times....But both are just so
so when it come to luck timing...But that's all they do...
>   >
>   > Once my software is done it will have a host of planetary and statistical
research applications for most lottery draws....At least that's the goal .....I
may even build a short term intra day model for Keno....However I will also be
doing an intra day program for Gann Grids first........
>   >
>   > As far as books I only recommend Jack Gillen's books However they are very
expensive and hard to find....All except The Key to speculation for the NY stock
exchange is out of print and are being scalped online for hundreds of
dollars.......
>   >
>   > Gillen's books will however be a recommended reading assignment for the
new software ...At least his New lottery and Stock market book.....
>   >
>   > 35 Years of research is a good one along with The Key to speculation for
casino and lottery...Older version
>   >
>   > A new updated version of the Lottery will hopefully be out by next
year.......
>   >
>   > As for your Part of fortune /Arabic part question .........I'm slowly
testing other parts along with different aspects trying to isolate a few new Hot
timing methods as well as contact a few Arabic part astrologers....I want to get
the gist of the subject from those who have tested them for years.....Its not a
common practice so it may take awhile.....
>   >
>   > Have you ever researched the timing of luck in your travels?
>   >
>   > Thanks
>   > Rob G
>   >
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Robert

To: PivotPointResearchInc@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 6:57 PM

Subject: [PivotPointResearchInc] Re: Pick 3 possibily for the next few draws start...

 

Pete

In everyone's life there are periods of "You can do no wrong" Along with periods of "YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING RIGHT"

This holds true for anyone who gambles.....be it casino, horseracing...As well as day or short terming the markets.....

I'm sure even you had the experience of wanting to get in the market or play a specific number only to be called away and totally forget about the issue at hand .........And LOOSE OUT on a potential golden opportunity!

Or to play a number repeatedly only to miss 1 days bet and have that number come out that draw....

Or in my case hit the pick 3 7 times in 2 weeks but on the last hit play 24 numbers which included the winning one then realize the girl placed 23 in correct and made a one mistake ....THE WINNING TICKET!

Along with other times be on an extreme "Hot streak at the track, casino, Market or even randomly playing a number and win....

Its these hot and cold streaks that I'm interested to learn more about...Luck is just the name most give periods of unexpected windfalls ...

Rob G

--- In PivotPointResearchInc@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Palaskas" <peterpalaskas@...> wrote:
>
> I dont believe in luck :
>
> I like the quote :
>
> "Luck is a crossroad where preparation and opportunity meet"
>
> where opportunity is :"in tune with tranists and cycles in general"
>
>
>
> For me luck is kind of a childish word, if you know what I mean
>
>
> Has some chaotic connotations if you will.
>
>
> That is my personal belief of course
>
> That there is a system ,a holly grail out there ,that I believe 100% .
>
> So ,yes my friend put me in the list
>
>
> Interesting project
>
> ps not for the money ,but for the pursuit of it
> ALWAYS
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Robert
> To: PivotPointResearchInc@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 10:05 PM
> Subject: [PivotPointResearchInc] Re: Pick 3 possibily for the next few draws start...
>
>
>
> lol...No i meant over the years have you researched the timing of luck..
>
> Tell me a little about the Magi ....I was going to join....their main office is in NY.....
>
> I was also interested in getting some of there books but been very busy with the new material.....
>
> Was also going to get a reading from one of the Magi astrologers to check out the accuracy of that system......
>
> Are you up for the Job?.......If so give me a direct email.......
>
> I also have about 27 people willing to participate in the POF test...
>
> Rob G
>
> --- In PivotPointResearchInc@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Palaskas" <peterpalaskas@> wrote:
> >
> > I spent like 3 hours in excel sorting the greek lottery ...
> >
> > boring and tedious work
> >
> > i noticed some 72 degrees to the second with natal of lotto and new lotto (dec 5 1990 first and jan something 2009)
> >
> >
> > to the second !
> >
> >
> > some other 72 aspects between jackpot and natal of lotto natal ..
> >
> > thats all
> >
> > but then again I remembered that I had to do a synastry between me and lotto and wasnt that good
> >
> >
> > isnt that the first thing to check after all ?
> >
> > synastry of natal and lottery natal
> >
> > I am into magi as i told you and some saturn clashes with my chiron etc didnt seem promising
> >
> > i keep record of natals of people that have given me money since 2000
> >
> >
> > and promiment is always jupiter with tight orb (1-1.5 degrees to any planet of my natal)
> >
> >
> >
> > what do you mean by lucky travel times ?
> >
> > day of departing from country ?
> >
> > would you consider that lucky ?
> >
> >
> > i remember going summer 2007 in uk with ex girlfriend ....
> > the worst travel ever in my life
> >
> >
> > disaster .
> >
> > had mars transits square my moon on departure from here
> >
> >
> >
> > these days i am again in planetary pictures
> > very interesting study
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: pvtpoint@
> > To: PivotPointResearchInc@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 9:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PivotPointResearchInc] Re: Pick 3 possibily for the next few draws start...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 5/3/2010 12:42:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, peterpalaskas@ writes:
> > Robert
> >
> > you got me into lotto with all these posts !
> >
> >
> > I love stats so...
> >
> > any good books-software on the subject ?
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> > Lol...........Just be sure to bet with your head and not over it!! ......lol......
> >
> > Several programs are Lucky Days and Winning Times....But both are just so so when it come to luck timing...But that's all they do...
> >
> > Once my software is done it will have a host of planetary and statistical research applications for most lottery draws....At least that's the goal .....I may even build a short term intra day model for Keno....However I will also be doing an intra day program for Gann Grids first........
> >
> > As far as books I only recommend Jack Gillen's books However they are very expensive and hard to find....All except The Key to speculation for the NY stock exchange is out of print and are being scalped online for hundreds of dollars.......
> >
> > Gillen's books will however be a recommended reading assignment for the new software ...At least his New lottery and Stock market book.....
> >
> > 35 Years of research is a good one along with The Key to speculation for casino and lottery...Older version
> >
> > A new updated version of the Lottery will hopefully be out by next year.......
> >
> > As for your Part of fortune /Arabic part question .........I'm slowly testing other parts along with different aspects trying to isolate a few new Hot timing methods as well as contact a few Arabic part astrologers....I want to get the gist of the subject from those who have tested them for years.....Its not a common practice so it may take awhile.....
> >
> > Have you ever researched the timing of luck in your travels?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Rob G
> >
>

Hello All

I just started a great new webgroup used only for testing the astrology and
timing of lucky events.....

This group however is NOT open to the public and will be by request and
acceptance only.......!

The group terms will be for each member to add to the groups research by giving
a detailed account of a lucky event or series of lucky events for research and
testing...This is the only requirement for join the group at this time.. However
after becoming a member everyone must also post at least 1-3 times a week
regarding some new techniques and research...(or at least within reason)...If
this is not upheld you will unfortunately be deleted from the group..

If you have an astrological background that's great but if not we will do the
work for you...and post it to the group for all to read as will each members
account....This way everyone within the group will learn from each others lucky
transits....

If too many subjects are posted to the group all at once a research and testing
idea list will be added to the file list....

We will then research and test 1 at a time until all are completed

Remember this is a Group for researchers only!!...If you are not enthusiastic
about learning and testing new ideas then this group is not for you....

I personally want once and for all shed some light on at least 10-20 different
lucky transit techniques worth using for the best times to win !

Also after awhile I feel this group will become very popular regarding the
timing of such events so get on board now as Once this occurs this will be a pay
per month site ......

Those who join now will be grand fathered in as a lifetime member.....

If interested in joining please send me your request and personal project for
review....email pvtpoint@...

Thanks

Robert Giordano

  http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/winningtransits/?yguid=65954835