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This weekend's operation of the NS 510 / 511 coal train was very different from past practices, although I'm not sure how last weekend went, since I was on a West-Slope adventure. (Yes, SD40-2 #3347 is still in CRQ blue: the final blue unit in the Altoona helper pool. Saw it 6 times!).

The three NS engines brought only 60 cars into Spring Grove PA: 15 spotted at the Railroad Road crossing, 15 left just inside the mill, 15 left with the 2nd and 3rd units on the Flank (Plank?) passing siding, with the lead unit handling the first cut to the mill's dumper.

After the first cut was finished, it switched places with the two units and their cut on the Flank. The first unit then did it's normal routine of running around then shoving past Colonial Valley x-ing. Then it retreived the third cut, as normal, and went to the Flank. The pair of units, when done with their cut, then pulled onto the Flank so the single unit could back cut #3 to the dumper. After running around, and shoving to Colonial Valley, the pair went to retreive the fourth and final cut. Here's where things got screwy.

Cut #4 was left on the Flank, then the pair came back out and continued on to York to get the rest of the train! Not sure where it was stored, but I would guess in Windsor yard.

Not sure if this is related to new operating proceedures after the derailment two weeks ago, or not. But, if this continues, it will make for some great photo-ops in the future. ;-)

I did not spend any more time with the pair once they were past Thomasville, due to having a life beyond trains (if you can imagine that).

The good thing is that the "leader" for the second section was a clean CONRAIL blue (CRQ) D8-40CW # 8323 ! Hopefully someone else was able to get some shots ! Let's see what happens with the next train. (I'm predicting no train on Thanksgiving weekend, as there have now been three consecutive weeks with trains. And, it's a holiday weekend.

UPDATE:
11/20-22/09 the 510 was led by black SD70M # 2644, followed elephant-style by CRQ #8323, followed back-to-back by black SD70M-2 #2649. The 2649 led the 511 outbound empties.

Ted G

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#755

From: yorkfd@...
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:38 pm
Subject: Re: Funding set to extend rail trail in York - The York Daily Record

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What rail line does this involve? Former Ma&Pa trackage? Northern Central? Other?

Bob Yarger
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From: mu 23 <mu23@...>
Subject: [RRofYork] Funding set to extend rail trail in York - The York Daily Record
To: "RRofYork" <RRofYork@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 9:06 AM

http://ydr.inyork.com/ydr/rss/ci_13846669?source=rss&jmid=188&j=241381290

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#754

From: Bob Yarger <bobyar2001@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:58 pm
Subject: Re: Funding set to extend rail trail in York - The York Daily Record

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What rail line does this involve? Former Ma&Pa trackage? Northern Central? Other?

Bob Yarger
Railway Preservation News (free website)
www.rypn.org

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From: mu 23 <mu23@...>
Subject: [RRofYork] Funding set to extend rail trail in York - The York Daily Record
To: "RRofYork" <RRofYork@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 9:06 AM

http://ydr.inyork.com/ydr/rss/ci_13846669?source=rss&jmid=188&j=241381290

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#753

From: "mu 23" <mu23@...>
Date: Mon Nov 23, 2009 2:06 pm
Subject: Funding set to extend rail trail in York - The York Daily Record

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#752

From: "Robert Hasty" <yhandf@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:38 am
Subject: RE: Motive Power 1940's and 1950's

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Hello John,

Would your information also be true for freights on the Frederick Secondary out of York? Just curious…

Thanks!

Rob Hasty

Keymar, MD

From: RRofYork@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RRofYork@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Frantz
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 10:27 PM
To: RRofYork@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [RRofYork] Motive Power 1940's and 1950's

Chuck,

An L1s 2-8-2 was the largest PRR freight locomotive used in York, mostly as road power for the "transfer" freights, like YE-1 or YP-2. Locals, would have seen an H8/9/10 2-8-0 or a B6s 0-6-0. Both were used out of York in the 1930's and 1940's.

In the 1950's, during the diesel era, GP9's replaced the road freight power, as well as for some locals, also you wold have seen RS-3's and RSD-5's. For the local work around York, Baldwin switchers were very common.

Hope this helps.

Best Regards,
John

York, PA
Crossroads of the Pennsylvania Railroad, Maryland & Pennsylvania and Western Maryland Railroads.

#751

From: Ted Gunzelman <teamgunzi@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:24 pm
Subject: Re: yesterday's coal train

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Thanks to Greg, MU 23, and Marlin for info, comments, compliments etc... I try to catch this train every time it comes to town(not quite weekly). :-)

Ted G

--- On Mon, 11/9/09, yorkfd@... <yorkfd@...> wrote:

From: yorkfd@... <yorkfd@...>
Subject: Re: [RRofYork] yesterday's coal train
To: RRofYork@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 8:11 AM

Well, on my way into work last evening, I noticed a fairly significant groove cut into the blacktop at Newberry Street, so there was definitely a flange on the ground there. Later in the evening, I found that the Grant Avenue crossing was still closed to traffic.

This morning on my way home from work, I took a closer look at the Grant Street crossing, and found that the blacktop at the crossing was essentially destroyed and will need to be repaved. The flange grooves are still easily seen in the blacktop at Newberry Street, and after a drive down the 300 block of West Gay Avenue, I saw that the interchange switch is damaged, with one point being bent and broken. There is currently no access to the old WM trackage until this switch is repaired. The ties from the switch to Newberry Street are essentially cut in half from the weight of the wheel flange on them. Apparently the derailment occured somewhere just west of the bridge, but I did not see any damage at the private crossing just west of the bridge.

I didn't go any further west than Penn Street, so I don't know how far the damage extends. I'm assuming probably until at least Roosevelt Avenue since that crossing was still closed later into the morning. The head end of the train was probably around the fairgrounds, but the derailment was definitely between Grant Street and the bridge over the Codorus.

I suspect that crews will be out working on this today, as I'm sure they'll need to get access back to the warehouse on Loucks Mill Road fairly quickly. The Grant Street crossing provides the only access to one parking lot of a business, so I suspect that they'll want to get that fixed quickly too.

They were scheduled to repair the Girard Avenue crossing by the engine house today and tomorrow, I wonder how the derailment will affect that project?

Greg

On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:00:18 -0800 (PST) Ted Gunzelman <teamgunzi@yahoo. com> writes:

Hi all-

A report on my NS / Yorkrail 510-511 thread ( http://www.railroad .net/forums/ viewtopic. php?f=130&t=55290 ) says that the coal train derailed, perhaps near the York fairgrounds. I was unable to get into York myself :-(

I was at the Glatfelter Parer mill from @9AM-10AM shooting the train, but had no idea anything had happened. The three NS engines had brought in at least 30 cars of the (usually) 105 loads, and were working them. I should have known something was up as there was only one crew aboard, and they kept all three locos together. Usual practice is two crews: one operates a pair of engines and the other crew takes the single engine.

If anyone has more details or pictures, I'd like to see them!

Ted G

More details on the coal train operations, as well as photos, can be found here:

http://s457. photobucket. com/albums/ qq292/railtrip/

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#750

From: yorkfd@...
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:42 pm
Subject: Re: Engines Scene on Concord Road

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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:30:48 -0000 "Garyprr" <garyprr@...>
writes:
>
> By the way, does anyone know what NS calls this short branch?

Gary,

I'm not 100% certain, but I think it was once referred to as the York
Industrial Track.

Greg
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#749

From: "Garyprr" <garyprr@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:30 am
Subject: Engines Scene on Concord Road

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I often drive on Concord Road between Sam's Club and the shopping center where
Bed, Bath and Beyond and the York Buffet are.

Yesterday as I was approaching the railroad crossing I mused to myself that I
would probably never see a train at this crossing.  But as I was thinking this
the lights came on and the gates went down.

Two GP40-2s crossed the road headed west.  I was so surprised to see them that I
did not get their numbers.

By the way, does anyone know what NS calls this short branch?

Gary E. Heiland
York, PA

#748

From: "chummer83" <fmonzo@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:49 am
Subject: Re: Motive Power 1940's and 1950's

chummer83

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John,

Thanks for the response and clearing up my steam question, I also appreciate the
diesel info because I didn't know about the RS-3's and the RSD-5's. Thanks Again

Chuck


--- In RRofYork@yahoogroups.com, John Frantz <prropcrew@...> wrote:
>
> Chuck,
>
> An L1s 2-8-2 was the largest PRR freight locomotive used in York, mostly as
road power for the "transfer" freights, like YE-1 or YP-2. Locals, would have
seen an H8/9/10 2-8-0 or a B6s 0-6-0. Both were used out of York in the 1930's
and 1940's.
>
> In the 1950's, during the diesel era, GP9's replaced the road freight power,
as well as for some locals, also you wold have seen RS-3's and RSD-5's. For the
local work around York, Baldwin switchers were very common.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Best Regards,
> John
>
> York, PA
>
> Crossroads of the Pennsylvania Railroad, Maryland & Pennsylvania and Western
Maryland Railroads.
>
> --- On Mon, 11/9/09, chummer83 <fmonzo@...> wrote:
>
> From: chummer83 <fmonzo@...>
> Subject: [RRofYork] Motive Power 1940's and 1950's
> To: RRofYork@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 7:50 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>       Hi All,
>
>
>
> I am trying to find out what steam power was used on freights in the the
1940's?(YE-1, YE-2, B-91 etc.). Also did the PRR ever run the 2-8-2's through
York or were they restricted? All help will be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chuck
>

#747

From: Jeff Warner <jeffrywarner@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:46 am
Subject: Re: Motive Power 1940's and 1950's

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Chuck:

The L class 2-8-2's were not restricted on the Northern Central... I have seen a few pictures of them. I have seen more H class 2-8-0's -- especially on the local freights (2-8-2's were more of a road engine). K4 and K5 4-6-2's were used on the passenger trains. Pretty much everything bigger (4-8-2, 2-10-0, etc) were restricted due to the sharp curves.

This website:

http://www.wsbcos.com/mp229/mp229.htm

has the assignment of locomotives for 1944. Look for pages 15 and 16 (Maryland Division). This will include locos assigned in the DC area, but should give you an idea. The A, B, and C class would be switchers assigned to yards. That would leave a bunch of H's and L's. The few E and G class would be passenger engines (4-6-0).

If you compare this to the eastern or middle divisions, there you will see a LOT of M (4-8-2) and I (2-10-0) class in addition to the smaller classes.

Hope that helps,

Jeff Warner

chummer83 wrote:

Hi All,

I am trying to find out what steam power was used on freights in the the 1940's?(YE-1,YE-2, B-91 etc.). Also did the PRR ever run the 2-8-2's through York or were they restricted? All help will be appreciated.

Thanks,
Chuck

#746

From: John Frantz <prropcrew@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:26 am
Subject: Re: Motive Power 1940's and 1950's

prropcrew

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From: chummer83 <fmonzo@...>
Subject: [RRofYork] Motive Power 1940's and 1950's
To: RRofYork@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 7:50 PM

Hi All,

I am trying to find out what steam power was used on freights in the the 1940's?(YE-1, YE-2, B-91 etc.). Also did the PRR ever run the 2-8-2's through York or were they restricted? All help will be appreciated.

Thanks,
Chuck

#745

From: "chummer83" <fmonzo@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:50 am
Subject: Motive Power 1940's and 1950's

chummer83

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Hi All,

I am trying to find out what steam power was used on freights in the the
1940's?(YE-1,YE-2, B-91 etc.). Also did the PRR ever run the 2-8-2's through
York or were they restricted? All help will be appreciated.

Thanks,
Chuck

#744

From: yorkfd@...
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 1:11 pm
Subject: Re: yesterday's coal train

gregyfd

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Well, on my way into work last evening, I noticed a fairly significant groove cut into the blacktop at Newberry Street, so there was definitely a flange on the ground there. Later in the evening, I found that the Grant Avenue crossing was still closed to traffic.

This morning on my way home from work, I took a closer look at the Grant Street crossing, and found that the blacktop at the crossing was essentially destroyed and will need to be repaved. The flange grooves are still easily seen in the blacktop at Newberry Street, and after a drive down the 300 block of West Gay Avenue, I saw that the interchange switch is damaged, with one point being bent and broken. There is currently no access to the old WM trackage until this switch is repaired. The ties from the switch to Newberry Street are essentially cut in half from the weight of the wheel flange on them. Apparently the derailment occured somewhere just west of the bridge, but I did not see any damage at the private crossing just west of the bridge.

I didn't go any further west than Penn Street, so I don't know how far the damage extends. I'm assuming probably until at least Roosevelt Avenue since that crossing was still closed later into the morning. The head end of the train was probably around the fairgrounds, but the derailment was definitely between Grant Street and the bridge over the Codorus.

I suspect that crews will be out working on this today, as I'm sure they'll need to get access back to the warehouse on Loucks Mill Road fairly quickly. The Grant Street crossing provides the only access to one parking lot of a business, so I suspect that they'll want to get that fixed quickly too.

They were scheduled to repair the Girard Avenue crossing by the engine house today and tomorrow, I wonder how the derailment will affect that project?

Greg

On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:00:18 -0800 (PST) Ted Gunzelman <teamgunzi@...> writes:

Hi all-

A report on my NS / Yorkrail 510-511 thread ( http://www.railroad.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=130&t=55290 ) says that the coal train derailed, perhaps near the York fairgrounds. I was unable to get into York myself :-(

I was at the Glatfelter Parer mill from @9AM-10AM shooting the train, but had no idea anything had happened. The three NS engines had brought in at least 30 cars of the (usually) 105 loads, and were working them. I should have known something was up as there was only one crew aboard, and they kept all three locos together. Usual practice is two crews: one operates a pair of engines and the other crew takes the single engine.

If anyone has more details or pictures, I'd like to see them!

Ted G

More details on the coal train operations, as well as photos, can be found here:

http://s457.photobucket.com/albums/qq292/railtrip/

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#743

From: "mu 23" <mu23@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 7:54 am
Subject: Re: yesterday's coal train

marylandrails

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Great pictures - well captioned too.

----- Original Message -----

From: Ted Gunzelman

To: RRofYork@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 12:00 AM

Subject: Re: [RRofYork] yesterday's coal train

Hi all-

A report on my NS / Yorkrail 510-511 thread ( http://www.railroad.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=130&t=55290 ) says that the coal train derailed, perhaps near the York fairgrounds. I was unable to get into York myself :-(

I was at the Glatfelter Parer mill from @9AM-10AM shooting the train, but had no idea anything had happened. The three NS engines had brought in at least 30 cars of the (usually) 105 loads, and were working them. I should have known something was up as there was only one crew aboard, and they kept all three locos together. Usual practice is two crews: one operates a pair of engines and the other crew takes the single engine.

If anyone has more details or pictures, I'd like to see them!

Ted G

More details on the coal train operations, as well as photos, can be found here:

http://s457.photobucket.com/albums/qq292/railtrip/

--- On Sun, 11/8/09, yorkfd@juno.com <yorkfd@juno.com> wrote:

From: yorkfd@juno.com <yorkfd@juno.com>
Subject: Re: [RRofYork] yesterday's coal train
To: RRofYork@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 11:13 AM

When I got up in the morning and read the pages on my whiz-bang county
fire pager, they alerted the city fire department around 3:00-5:00 am
that all crossings between Carlisle Avenue and George Street were blocked
due to a "malf train" and a second page around 7:00 am reported crossings
blocked at Roosevelt Avenue, Newberry and Grant Streets.

Greg

On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 07:26:00 -0800 (PST) Marlin Markle <cnw8651@yahoo. com>
writes:
> Does anybody have a idea of what was going on. Came across York
> around 2ish and half the train was still in Windsor ST.Then after
> lunch headed in town to find crossing gates acting funny and a
> abundance of track crews in the area of Rosevelt AVE .
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#742

From: Ted Gunzelman <teamgunzi@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 5:00 am
Subject: Re: yesterday's coal train

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http://s457.photobucket.com/albums/qq292/railtrip/

Hi all-

A report on my NS / Yorkrail 510-511 thread ( http://www.railroad.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=130&t=55290 ) says that the coal train derailed, perhaps near the York fairgrounds. I was unable to get into York myself :-(

I was at the Glatfelter Parer mill from @9AM-10AM shooting the train, but had no idea anything had happened. The three NS engines had brought in at least 30 cars of the (usually) 105 loads, and were working them. I should have known something was up as there was only one crew aboard, and they kept all three locos together. Usual practice is two crews: one operates a pair of engines and the other crew takes the single engine.

If anyone has more details or pictures, I'd like to see them!

Ted G

More details on the coal train operations, as well as photos, can be found here:

--- On Sun, 11/8/09, yorkfd@... <yorkfd@...> wrote:

From: yorkfd@... <yorkfd@...>
Subject: Re: [RRofYork] yesterday's coal train
To: RRofYork@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 11:13 AM

When I got up in the morning and read the pages on my whiz-bang county
fire pager, they alerted the city fire department around 3:00-5:00 am
that all crossings between Carlisle Avenue and George Street were blocked
due to a "malf train" and a second page around 7:00 am reported crossings
blocked at Roosevelt Avenue, Newberry and Grant Streets.

Greg

On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 07:26:00 -0800 (PST) Marlin Markle <cnw8651@yahoo. com>
writes:
> Does anybody have a idea of what was going on. Came across York
> around 2ish and half the train was still in Windsor ST.Then after
> lunch headed in town to find crossing gates acting funny and a
> abundance of track crews in the area of Rosevelt AVE .
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#741

From: yorkfd@...
Date: Sun Nov 8, 2009 4:13 pm
Subject: Re: yesterday's coal train

gregyfd

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When I got up in the morning and read the pages on my whiz-bang county
fire pager, they alerted the city fire department around 3:00-5:00 am
that all crossings between Carlisle Avenue and George Street were blocked
due to a "malf train" and a second page around 7:00 am reported crossings
blocked at Roosevelt Avenue, Newberry and Grant Streets.

Greg

On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 07:26:00 -0800 (PST) Marlin Markle <cnw8651@...>
writes:
> Does anybody have a idea of what was going on. Came across York
> around 2ish and half the train was still in Windsor ST.Then after
> lunch headed in town to find crossing gates acting funny and a
> abundance of track crews in the area of Rosevelt AVE .
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#740

From: Marlin Markle <cnw8651@...>
Date: Sun Nov 8, 2009 3:26 pm
Subject: yesterday's coal train

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Does anybody have a idea of what was going on. Came across York around 2ish and
half the train was still in Windsor ST.Then after lunch headed in town to find
crossing gates acting funny and a abundance of track crews in the area of
Rosevelt AVE .

#739

From: "mu 23" <mu23@...>
Date: Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:40 pm
Subject: Re: McClelland - 221b Series: Black Shag pipe tobacco reviews

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Oops, sorry.

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#738

From: "mu 23" <mu23@...>
Date: Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:04 am
Subject: McClelland - 221b Series: Black Shag pipe tobacco reviews

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#737

From: "Robert Hasty" <yhandf@...>
Date: Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:32 am
Subject: RE: Demolition begins at York's Ohio Blenders site in the Northwest Triangle - The York Daily Record

lopakasom

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Well, I’ve only been to the spot once, but I agree that it would make a great spot for a park – especially for train nuts like myself!

Rob

From: RRofYork@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RRofYork@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mu 23
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:55 AM
To: RRofYork@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [RRofYork] Demolition begins at York's Ohio Blenders site in the Northwest Triangle - The York Daily Record

If I remember correctly, which is never a sure thing, one line is staying and one is going. It's a sad state of affairs (IMHO), but if they had to take it from Ohio Blenders, which I don't think they did, they should have made it something everybody could enjoy. It would be a great spot for a park. Maybe after the foreclosure, heh, heh, heh.

#736

From: "Robert Hasty" <yhandf@...>
Date: Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:26 am
Subject: RE: Demolition begins at York's Ohio Blenders site in the Northwest Triangle - The York Daily Record

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http://www.revyork.com/files/2006.05.15%20Concept%20Site%20Plan%2011x171.pdf

Excellent, thanks Greg!

From: RRofYork@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RRofYork@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of yorkfd@...
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:17 PM
To: RRofYork@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [RRofYork] Demolition begins at York's Ohio Blenders site in the Northwest Triangle - The York Daily Record

I sent this message earlier, but for some reaon it seems that my response got stripped out of the message. Here's my text that got lost (I hope):

Well, it looks like the latest plan doesn't relocate any of the railroad tracks, at least that's what I'm seeing on this plan found online:

There were two competing plans for redevelopment of the site, and apparently the plan that did not relocate the tracks is the one that got approved.

Greg

#735

From: yorkfd@...
Date: Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:24 am
Subject: Sunday News articles

gregyfd

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Unless someone is more adept than me in locating them, I was unable to
locate two articles of interest in the York Sunday News on the paper's
web site.

In an article titles "New rec trail possible", there will be an open
house from noon until 8:00 p.m. om November 18th at the Rescue Fire
Company of Dallastown where representatives of the Ma & Pa Community
Greenway's feasibility study will be on hand. The study is looking at a
12.5 mile corridor from Felton to Spring Garden Township as well as the
Dallastown Branch to develop a recreational trail.

In the Viewpoints section, June Lloyd, librarian emeritus of the York
County Heritage Trust has an interesting article entitles "York County
canners prospered" discussing the many canneries that prospered along the
railroads in York County.

Greg
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#734

From: yorkfd@...
Date: Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:16 am
Subject: Re: Demolition begins at York's Ohio Blenders site in the Northwest Triangle - The York Daily Record

gregyfd

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http://www.revyork.com/files/2006.05.15%20Concept%20Site%20Plan%2011x171.pdf

I sent this message earlier, but for some reaon it seems that my response got stripped out of the message. Here's my text that got lost (I hope):

Well, it looks like the latest plan doesn't relocate any of the railroad tracks, at least that's what I'm seeing on this plan found online:

There were two competing plans for redevelopment of the site, and apparently the plan that did not relocate the tracks is the one that got approved.

Greg

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From: "chummer83" <fmonzo@...>
Date: Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:18 pm
Subject: York Yard(Windsor st. Yard)

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Hi All,

I am curently working on a HO layout and I am looking for pictures of York Yard
and engine house dating back around 1945 - 1955. Can someone steer me in the
right direction. All help will be appreciated. The layout is currently in the
research and design stage and my website for it should be up and running soon. I
will post the address when it's up.

Thanks,
Chuck

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From: "Robert Hasty" <yhandf@...>
Date: Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:41 am
Subject: RE: Demolition begins at York's Ohio Blenders site in the Northwest Triangle - The York Daily Record

lopakasom

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Not at all surprising, it sounds like the railroad lines were an afterthought. I doubt they’d fight too hard (since they own another line so close by), but I wonder what legal rights the railroad would have in a situation like this. Since I love the Frederick Branch, I’m glad I could get up there prior to major changes…

Rob

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Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [RRofYork] Demolition begins at York's Ohio Blenders site in the Northwest Triangle - The York Daily Record

From what I remember of the original proposal, and the drawing that I had seen of the proposal, The old WM line would be retained, as would the truss bridge across the Codorus. This line would also continue along the creek and tie in to the old NCR near the Pershing Avenue street trackage. The tracks coming over from Poor House Yard will somehow, somewhere go over and tie in to the old WM trackage, but I don't remember where that was supposed to happen. The girder bridge would no longer be used for railroad traffic.

Just as a caveat, those plans were preliminary, and I don't know if the railroad was consulted at all with those plans. I'm sure that it's possible (and probable) that the location of the railroad tracks may have changed since then.

Greg

#731

From: yorkfd@...
Date: Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:27 pm
Subject: Re: Demolition begins at York's Ohio Blenders site in the Northwest Triangle - The York Daily Record

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Thanks for the update on that – I’m glad I got some shots when I could!

So I may have missed this in past posts, but does anyone know what fate will fall upon the two lines that are running through there?

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#730

From: yorkfd@...
Date: Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:11 pm
Subject: Re: Demolition begins at York's Ohio Blenders site in the Northwest Triangle - The York Daily Record

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Greg

On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 21:41:12 -0400 "Robert Hasty" <yhandf@...> writes:

Thanks for the update on that – I’m glad I got some shots when I could!

So I may have missed this in past posts, but does anyone know what fate will fall upon the two lines that are running through there?

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#729

From: "mu 23" <mu23@...>
Date: Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:54 pm
Subject: Re: Demolition begins at York's Ohio Blenders site in the Northwest Triangle - The York Daily Record

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----- Original Message -----

From: Robert Hasty

To: RRofYork@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 9:41 PM

Subject: RE: [RRofYork] Demolition begins at York's Ohio Blenders site in the Northwest Triangle - The York Daily Record

Thanks for the update on that - I'm glad I got some shots when I could!

So I may have missed this in past posts, but does anyone know what fate will fall upon the two lines that are running through there?

Rob Hasty

Keymar, MD

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Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 2:07 PM
To: RRofYork
Subject: [RRofYork] Demolition begins at York's Ohio Blenders site in the Northwest Triangle - The York Daily Record

http://ydr.inyork.com/ci_13594128

#728

From: "Robert Hasty" <yhandf@...>
Date: Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:41 am
Subject: RE: Demolition begins at York's Ohio Blenders site in the Northwest Triangle - The York Daily Record

lopakasom

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http://ydr.inyork.com/ci_13594128

Thanks for the update on that – I’m glad I got some shots when I could!

So I may have missed this in past posts, but does anyone know what fate will fall upon the two lines that are running through there?

Rob Hasty

Keymar, MD

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Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 2:07 PM
To: RRofYork
Subject: [RRofYork] Demolition begins at York's Ohio Blenders site in the Northwest Triangle - The York Daily Record

#727

From: "mu 23" <mu23@...>
Date: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:06 pm
Subject: Demolition begins at York's Ohio Blenders site in the Northwest Triangle - The York Daily Record

marylandrails

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http://ydr.inyork.com/ci_13594128