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Colleagues,
 
I would have to rate our efforts today as successful, and we were told that Amtrak wants this to be an
annual event.
 
Starting about 6:30am, we kept up a continuous Operation Lifesaver presentation of one kind or another
until the SilverMeteor departed on time at 9:48.  At least two formal presentations were made, although one
by me does not count because we did have our visual aids in place yet.  Even so, it was presented in a
general way to nearly 200 persons, 157 of whom were to board the SilverStar for a daytrip to WinterPark, something that has become quite popular on weekends.
 
The Distinguished Congresswoman, C. Brown came to the station to board the SilverMeteor, also to go to
WinterPark and a CSX VP (and good friend) was present to insure that things went smoothly -- well duhh, wonder why the Meteor arrived nearly 30' early, and departed on time.  I asked him if my wife could get the same treatment when she rides the SilverStar to DC tomorrow night?)  I was told by every Amtrak employee present that they get dozens of questions daily about the lack of the Sunset LImited.
 
The CSX VP told me (as we know) that the track was released to Amtrak in April 2006, but he also said that the SSL was the most money losing operation Amtrak had and was an embarrasment to the government.  I told him the money losing part was so much BS and the reason it was so easy to say it lost money was because at 3 days a week, there was no hope of it doing well to cover fixed costs.  He said that CSX has encouraged Amtrak by saying that a daily service would be handled better.  Two high officials of Amtrak stated that much study had, and was, being made of a daily service east of NewOrleans, but admitted that our thinking that there was an equipment shortage was reasonable.
 
Now the good news.  If you read the bill that started through the house this  past week, there is some prose in it, by C.Brown, requiring studies to be made and reported within 9 months of passage, about the Sunset Limited, or at least a Gulf Coast service.  Ms. Brown told me and others present that she also intended to introduce funding specifically for the Sunset Service.  Now that does not mean it will ever make it into law, but we do know that this lady is consistent in doing what she says, at least as far as it is in her control.  Amtrak officials present acknowledge that such a service should connect, on a reasonable layover, with the Sunset Limited west of NewOrleans, as well as with the CNO.  Their ticket studies indicated that a fair number of persons were connecting to the CNO, and personal observation, as well as NARP reports, indicate that a high percentage were connecting through NO.  It was acknowledged that a full service train east of NO would be required, since at least part of that run would be overnight.
 
Others will handle presentations etc. this afternoon around the departure time of the SIlverMeteor, but no activity is planned for the SilverStar which leaves at 11pm.
 
One Amtrak official stated that one of the problems now, on the Sunset Route is that ADA compliant platforms would be required, and the CSX VP stated that they will not allow ADA compliant platforms on a main track because then Hi-Wide loads would not clear, so there is a stalemate on this issue.  Most all of
the platforms and paved pads on the route would have to be rebuilt from the ground up to comply with the ADA issue and most of them abut the main track(s).  In addition to being of a certain height, the platforms must be long enough to accomodate the entire train.  We could find ourselves in a situation of not having any passenger rail because of this issue and we must be aware of this.
 
Jerry Sullivan


Sat May 10, 2008 4:03 pm

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Colleagues, I would have to rate our efforts today as successful, and we were told that Amtrak wants this to be an annual event. Starting about 6:30am, we kept...
Jerry Sullivan
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May 10, 2008
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Jerry: Thanks for the update--it be worth talking to Rep. Brown about examination of a waiver on the ADA issue if that's the major stumbling block! Tom...
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May 10, 2008
5:14 pm

I don't think that is the major issue. I believe pure and simple politics is the real problem, besides lack of available equipment. This, however, is...
Jerry Sullivan
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May 10, 2008
6:15 pm

... I thought I had raised this issue before - at least on one of these lists. Anyway, this is a huge problem, and there have been several rounds of discussion...
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May 10, 2008
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Agreed on all points. One thing I wonder about though is this. If I go to the Jax. Airport to board a flight, it will not matter what kind of Jet it is...
Jerry Sullivan
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May 11, 2008
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Good news about Ms. Brown introducing legislation in the House for studies and funding - now we need to keep working the Senate side to try and get companion...
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May 12, 2008
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that Ms Brown is working on H.R.6003 on the House side, which is the companion legislation to bill...
Allan
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May 13, 2008
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Yes Allen - I think you are correct. John Sita...
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May 13, 2008
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There is absolutely no need to rebuild ground level platforms just to be compliant with ADA. There are commercially available portable wheelchair lifts that...
Steven Atran
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May 12, 2008
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Well I think we agree that there is no "need" but the argument is that the FRA is saying it is a requirement. The host railroads could care less especially...
Jerry Sullivan
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May 12, 2008
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Well folks, that would be our next steps then; Urging our Sunset Congress members to support Ms Browns efforts, and urging local officials to become ADA...
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May 13, 2008
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She is working on that, as well as the appropriation process for 2008/09 and I believe her plans she mentioned to us at the meeting are probably to be a part...
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