Over the years I've heard many wonderful stories about the 4501s being tough, durable, dependable, and attractive. What were the downsides to them? Were they...
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sean huber
orangepeel91us
May 6, 2005 2:22 pm
Define gas guzzler. No 40' bus with a 2 stroke detroit will ever get 10. Most get a lot closer to 5. But the king of the thirsty beasties were the origional...
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Harry Chavez Sr
harrychavezsr
May 6, 2005 3:21 pm
From my personal experience, Greyhound 1963 to 82, I found them to be excellent runners, easy to handle and never had any problems in the rain that I can...
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Lloyd
lloydingridc...
May 6, 2005 4:18 pm
I thought I remember hearing the Scenics averaged 6-7 miles per gallon. One driver also complained of tough handling with leaning in certain curve grades....
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C. A. "Skipper&q...
a1skipper1231
May 6, 2005 7:46 pm
The 4501 was the most comfortable and easy handling coach GM ever made...It got no more or less mileage than present coaches(even with modern weight saving...
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Harry Chavez Sr
harrychavezsr
May 6, 2005 10:30 pm
The only problem ever had with one was caused by a student driver not the bus itself. While instructing a few new recruits and as we were traveling north on...
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Lloyd
lloydingridc...
May 7, 2005 12:58 pm
Harry, If that Scenic was laid on its side yet still survived to continue revenue service, then that's a walloping testament to the Scenic's structural...
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RJ Long
gmc4106fan
May 7, 2005 3:31 pm
Camille - NONE of today's present highway models are built like a Scenic - or any of the GMC buses, for that matter. The only thing that might come close are...
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Harry Chavez Sr
harrychavezsr
May 7, 2005 5:39 pm
From what this old memory recalls the layover was smooth and casual.. We were barely moving as the bus seemed to be in slow motion.. I think the only damage...
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Lloyd
lloydingridc...
May 11, 2005 4:28 am
To answer this one some folks will have to reach back a while: Do any drivers remember the last Scenic PD4501 they drove for Greyhound before they were finally...
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Harry Chavez Sr
harrychavezsr
May 11, 2005 5:56 am
Now Thats making an old man blow out some cobwebs..!! My mind is telling me the last one I was on, I say on because I was instructor and had 5 students. 2 of...
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lloyd norwood
lloydingridc...
May 11, 2005 2:47 pm
The stories you could tell.... Ingrid ... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. ...
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Harry Chavez Sr
harrychavezsr
May 11, 2005 3:08 pm
IVe a few good stories but they didn't happen on a scenic.. I will say that the west coast scenics were a lot faster then the east coast ones were. I worked a...
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lloyd norwood
lloydingridc...
May 11, 2005 8:38 pm
I suppose they were governed at 65mph in the east and 72mph in the west. Am I even close? Lloyd ... __________________________________________________ Do You...
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Harry Chavez Sr
harrychavezsr
May 11, 2005 10:05 pm
The westcoast cars generally would go as fast as you wanted. There was a secret on how to get them flying. When the engine hit the govner, or? you hit the...
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Howard A. Drozd
howardddeee
May 12, 2005 4:28 am
Harry, After the 4501s were rebuilt in 1961-2, the fast idle switch also actuated a parking brake. The fast idle and the air conditioning switches were...
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Howard A. Drozd
howardddeee
May 12, 2005 4:52 am
Lloyd, I can't say what happened in the east, but on the west coast many of the 4501s that would go 72 MPH had a red dot (fingernail polish) to the right of...
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Lloyd
lloydingridc...
May 13, 2005 4:09 am
The group 1st year anniversary is coming very soon. As a matter of fact it will be May 22nd. Presently our membership has grown to 85 members (more or less;...
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Harry Chavez Sr
harrychavezsr
May 13, 2005 5:54 am
I would think that as long as there are the older hound drivers who are still driving and us who have retired and drove this fantastic cars there will be a lot...
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Lloyd
lloydingridc...
May 16, 2005 2:46 am
The moderator has moved 38 pictures to the files section to allow for more convenient of newfound pictures. Please review files section when you get a chance...
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Lloyd
lloydingridc...
May 16, 2005 2:47 am
To clarify the garbled message: the pics were moved to allow for more convenient uploads of newfound pics. Thanks again Ingrid...
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Lloyd
lloydingridc...
May 22, 2005 7:43 am
Today marks the 1st anniversary for this group. Salute! Camille...
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Slant Noz
slantnoz
May 24, 2005 2:41 am
At this point I ready dont care about the condition. I just want one. I let one get away, a year ago, and now I wish I would have purchased it. Please email...
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Lloyd
lloydingridc...
May 29, 2005 4:18 am
... <lloydingridcolincamille@y...> wrote: Here's wishing all board members a happy, safe, and joyous Memorial Day Weekend. Ingrid Colin Camille Lloyd...
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Harry Chavez Sr
harrychavezsr
May 29, 2005 5:03 am
Ditto from Harry O in Maryland Lloyd <lloydingridcolincamille@...> wrote:--- In TrailwaysCoaches@yahoogroups.com, "Lloyd" <lloydingridcolincamille@y...>...
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Lloyd
lloydingridc...
Jun 3, 2005 1:25 am
How about some tales about your last trip either driving or riding a Scenicruiser? The stories should be interesting. Ingrid...
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Lloyd
lloydingridc...
Jun 7, 2005 10:55 am
No takers? Ingrid...
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Kyle Brandt
kylefbrandt
Jun 7, 2005 4:12 pm
There is one on eBay now. Seems to be a good one from the description. The price ain't too bad yet either. Good luck Kyle...
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Lloyd
lloydingridc...
Jun 12, 2005 2:41 am
What's the story behind the Carrousel Greyhound Scenicruiser? See a photo in the QUEEN BUS photo album of this group. Thank you. Ingrid...
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pd45017712003
Jun 13, 2005 3:37 pm
If anyone is interested, I have parts for sale. Engines, trans., body parts, marker lights, etc. Email or call and we'll chat. Tom McNally PD4501-771 Peoria,...
