I'm a frustrated agilist: I know alot about agile, I can talk a good agile talk, and I've even given a couple "Agile Talks". But I don't do agile. Why? There...
Hi Clarke and all, Questions for those of you who are wanting to sell agile: What is motivating you to sell Agile? If you were to succeed at selling Agile,...
Personally, I think the issue has a lot to do with professionalism. Professionals take pride in what they do, and constantly try to improve their work. I...
... May be "sell" isn't the precise word we're looking for, however since I understand where Clarke is coming from, and the fact he has set up this group, I'm...
Despite the infancy of this group, I'm glad to see it has already attracted a global following. This is more of a statement than a request for help! I'm in...
Hi Craig, ... What is it that you don't like about spammers? What can we do to make sure that as we sell agile we don't exhibit those characteristics...
... I propose a compromise: Clarke can set the Achive to "public" but keep Posting as "members only". This would allow us to pick it up with news aggregators,...
The topic of the list, I gather, is Selling Agile (quick, isn't he?). But seriously, if you're one of those thinking about selling this to management, these...
... joining ... Easiest thing, I think, is to moderate new members until they make a rational posting, then take them off moderation. Regards, Ron Jeffries...
... to ... Ah - two of life's greatest mysteries. I'd want to turn around the first question and ask: What is management asking you to do to improve...
Hi all, Conversation seems to have kicked off already, so I'll keep my welcome brief. I guess my motivation for starting up this group is similar to your...
Friday, July 16, 2004, 12:03:19 AM, you wrote: Hi Dale ... DE> What is it that you don't like about spammers? Well, I've seen other groups, such as the Scrum...
... The obvious answer: I want to work in agile but I'm not; being better at selling or influencing would help me "convert" my unbelievers; if everyone else...
... upper management who are set in their ways to change ... Hi Craig, I think "sell" is the right word if you use this definition : "Sell = Persuade somebody...
What is motivating me: Too many deadlines that are arbitrary and yet mandatory. Too many pounds of shit getting stuffed into the same 5 pound bag. Too many...
... projects? ... I like your reframe Bill. My answer is that - in my current environment - our management know that our waterfall-based methodology isn't...
... What is preventing you from putting more sanity into the planning process, focusing more on the content and less on the style, right now? What is the help...
Ron, But wasn't agle or at least the need for a radical change already sold to this customer when you went on site. It occurs to me that when a customer...
... "Well, that's right, boss. It would help if they could give us perfect and complete requirements. But, so far, they can't. And it would help if we could...
... Yes, but my point is that the process was running along as if it was important, and yet no one there really needed selling. They needed doing. Ron Jeffries...
... In the current case, the customer is an extremely large two-letter acronym organization who thinks that their processes are just fine. At my last job, the...
... Waterfallist: "Its your job to figure out how to get the requirements out of the customer and get the project into a place where they don't want to change...
... I can't find the original of this. Anyway ... What, specifically, do we want management to accept? What is stopping us from giving them the things we think...
... They were doing a waterfall process that everyone knew didn't work because they all thought someone else wanted it. It's true that they asked for help, but...
... "If you can find someone who can do my job better than I do, you should hire them immediately. Meanwhile, here's what I can do ..." And you wander off and...
... Are they shipping quality software on time on budget? If so, they don't need agile. If not, they probably don't really think that everything is just fine. ...
I would like to have the authority to run my shop the way I deem appropriate to go together with the responsibility to deliver results. --Hubert -- Original...
Ok, I get your point now. Thank you. I agree that 'just doing it' works in some environments, it does in mine. In others you get punished for not sticking to...
