Hi All

Some Lighting engineers call the Eleco/ Davis GR100/150/200 lanterns
have been called Gondelers due to the shape of the bowls

and I heared the old ESLAs were known as Batwings due to the
relectors look like wings of a bat

All the Best

Colin

--- In UK_s_Streetlighting@yahoogroups.com, Simon Cornwell
<scornwell@s...> wrote:
> To add to the strange name fun i.e. 'Turtles', in Brighton the GEC
Z9484s
> are called 'boats'.
>
> All the best,
> Simon

To add to the strange name fun i.e. 'Turtles', in Brighton the GEC Z9484s
are called 'boats'.

All the best,
Simon

Hi Colin and Bob,

Thanks for the explanation. I get a little bit wiser :-)

Al the best

Sander

--- In UK_s_Streetlighting@yahoogroups.com, C J <colin75uk@y...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Sander
> I recall an electrician in St Helens called the Thorn Beta 7s and
GEC Z8496s etc turtles as the shape of them, they look like a turtle
with a lamp post stuck you know where (see photo attached)
>
> All the Best
>
> Colin
>  "Sander <Santaarnpaal@h...>" <Santaarnpaal@h...> wrote: Hi All,
>
> Why are some British lanterns called turtles? What does mean this
> name for some kind of lanterns?
>
> Al the best
>
> Sander Sloots
>
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Hi Colin,

>I may be able to solve the MI55 querry this may origanall
>might have been a MI50 lantern with a gear tray from a MI55
>lantern which uses a 70w SON-I Lamp

Thanks - I'll get it out of its bubblewrap and take a look at the label.

All the best,
Simon

Hi phil

The Son-E I got from a fellow Streetlighting collector

The 2000w HPI-T and MBF/U came from a Streetlighting depot in Runcorn
I think they said that the MH lamp was used to light the Runcorn-
Widnes Bridge and the 1000w MBF/U was from Stafforshire

Halton Council which covers Runcorn Widnes and surrounding areas they
have a private Contractor called MEWS Mechanical and Electrical Works
Service I think they work on the lighting on the M57, M58, M62 M6 etc
here in the North West and I have also seen them on the East Lancs
road wit another contractor D W Webster they work on Streeetlights in
the St Helens Area

Runcorn Has a Lot of High Mast lighting around the expressway and the
Runcrn side of the Bridge

High Mast Lighting is techically comes under Streetlighting as they
are mainly used where large areas, wide streets, and complex
junctions like A roads and Motorways are linked, I have seen High
Mast Lighting on Mancunion Way and also on the Esat Lancashire Road
as you come into Manchester, also isnt there HM lighting aroun Old
Trafford , Manchester Uniteds football Club.

Here in Liverpool there are High Mast Lighting around Scotland Road
where the tunnels are and in the City Centre Queens Drive at Walton,
and Queens Drive  linking the M62 I also saw High Mast Lighting in
Warrington where the River Mersey and the Manchester Ship Canal are
wher the complex roundabout is

All the Best

Colin


--- In UK_s_Streetlighting@yahoogroups.com, Phil Macbean <phil@v...>
wrote:
> C J <colin75uk@y...> writes
> >I manage to get time to photograph these huge lamps
> >From Left to right
> >
> >1 a 1000w SON-E Lamp 2 a 2000w HPI-T Lamp 3 a 1000w MBF/U Lamp
> >
> >In front is a 60w GLS lamp (as used in our homes) which shows the
scale of these
> >lamps
>
> Where did you get those from? They're a bit large for general
> streetlighting use...or are they? Is it just high mast lighting and
area
> floodlighting that uses this size of lamp?
> --
> ..phil..

C J <colin75uk@...> writes
>I manage to get time to photograph these huge lamps
>From Left to right
>
>1 a 1000w SON-E Lamp 2 a 2000w HPI-T Lamp 3 a 1000w MBF/U Lamp
>
>In front is a 60w GLS lamp (as used in our homes) which shows the scale of
these
>lamps

Where did you get those from? They're a bit large for general
streetlighting use...or are they? Is it just high mast lighting and area
floodlighting that uses this size of lamp?
--
..phil..

Hi Colin
Our later mi series are the same gear as yours but we have earlier
examples which cover the e series lamps,the ma60 your after are lying
all over the spot in our depot as they're being replaced by Thorn
Trident lanterns,there is a bigger version of the ma60 lantern which
is used on motorways i'm not sure of the number but the one i came
across in Preston was about 6 foot in length
      Mack
    --- In UK_s_Streetlighting@yahoogroups.com, C J <colin75uk@y...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Alexander
>
> Are they the MIE and the MAE series of lanterns for SOX-E lamps as
I have the MI26, MI36 and they have a BSX355 ballast SX72 ignitor and
a 6.5uf 250vCapacitor fitted for a 35w and 55w SOX Lamps
>
> The MA90 lantern I have has 90w Gear tray with a BSX90 ballast ZX76
ignitor and a 10uf 250v Capacitor and the
>
> The MA50 lantern I have has 135w Gear tray with a BSX135 which is a
constant wattage ballast  ZX74 ignitor and a 6-8uf 440v Capacitor as
this runs in series with the lamp
>
>  Trying to get a MA60 Lantern with integral Gear for a 180w SOX
Lamp as this will complete the Philips Sox Lanterns from Side streets
to Motorways
>
> I have looked in a old Philips catalogue and it shows a MI 55 side
entry lantern and uses a 70w SON-I lamp  ( I means Internal starter )
I also have one see photo attached
>
>  All the Best
>
> Colin
>
>  "alycidon22 <Alexander.Macdonald@b...>" <Alexander.Macdonald@b...>
wrote: I don't think Phillips lantern numbers refer to the lamp
size,i think
> its in relation to the ballast serial mumber as our mi36's have
bsx36
> ballasts and the mi 26 have bsx 26,ma90 are bsx90l etc etc
>     -- In UK_s_Streetlighting@yahoogroups.com, Simon Cornwell
> <scornwell@s...> wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > >I like to thank you for the catalogues you done
> > >for me and Also for adding a link to the group
> > >to your website
> > No problemo.
> >
> > >manage to get some streetlights last weekand
> > >today All philips MI50s both side entry and
> > >Top entry, MI26 and a Industria 2600 lantern
> > It looks like those Philips MI26s will take over the world! - if
it
> wasn't
> > for the Thorn Beta 5.
> >
> > Incidentally my Philips MI55 GT is has gear for an 18W SOX.
There's
> several
> > things I don't understand here:
> > Firstly the numbering - I assumed that '55' refers to 55W SOX.
No,
> the
> > lantern can only accomdate a 35W SOX. (My thinking being that a
> MI26 refers
> > to a 26W SOX-E etc.)
> > Secondly, I didn't think 18W SOX was used for street lighting.
Yet
> the
> > lantern was removed from an old ESLA swan neck bracket.
> >
> > >I noticed the stack of streetlights in you garage you should
> > >see my back Garden people say I must have enought streetlights
> > >to Light up the whole county of Merseyside so many I have lost
> > >count after 200
> > The pile in the garage - well, it's going to take me a long time
to
> get all
> > that restored - I guess I'm about a third of the way through it
at
> the
> > moment ;-)
> > As for collections getting out of control, its when you start
> picking up
> > lanterns you've already got, and have forgotten about, that
things
> have gone
> > wrong!
> >
> > >have you got any ESLA or other batwing lanterns for sale
> > >as I am trying to find one  but having no luck as they were
> > >replaced by Sodium lighting in the 1950s/60s
> > Not at the moment - sorry. All the ones in my collection are
> different
> > angles and configurations - no dups at the moment.
> >
> > All the best,
> > Simon
>
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Hi All

I manage to get time to photograph these huge lamps

From Left to right

1 a 1000w SON-E Lamp 2 a 2000w HPI-T Lamp 3 a 1000w MBF/U Lamp

In front is a 60w GLS lamp (as used in our homes) which shows the scale of these lamps

All the Best

Colin

Hi Alexander

Are they the MIE and the MAE series of lanterns for SOX-E lamps as I have the MI26, MI36 and they have a BSX355 ballast SX72 ignitor and a 6.5uf 250vCapacitor fitted for a 35w and 55w SOX Lamps

The MA90 lantern I have has 90w Gear tray with a BSX90 ballast ZX76 ignitor and a 10uf 250v Capacitor and the

The MA50 lantern I have has 135w Gear tray with a BSX135 which is a constant wattage ballast  ZX74 ignitor and a 6-8uf 440v Capacitor as this runs in series with the lamp

Trying to get a MA60 Lantern with integral Gear for a 180w SOX Lamp as this will complete the Philips Sox Lanterns from Side streets to Motorways

I have looked in a old Philips catalogue and it shows a MI 55 side entry lantern and uses a 70w SON-I lamp  ( I means Internal starter ) I also have one see photo attached

All the Best

Colin

 "alycidon22 <Alexander.Macdonald@...>" <Alexander.Macdonald@...> wrote:

I don't think Phillips lantern numbers refer to the lamp size,i think
its in relation to the ballast serial mumber as our mi36's have bsx36
ballasts and the mi 26 have bsx 26,ma90 are bsx90l etc etc
    -- In UK_s_Streetlighting@yahoogroups.com, Simon Cornwell
<scornwell@s...> wrote:
> Hi guys,
> 
> >I like to thank you for the catalogues you done
> >for me and Also for adding a link to the group
> >to your website
> No problemo.
>
> >manage to get some streetlights last weekand
> >today All philips MI50s both side entry and
> >Top entry, MI26 and a Industria 2600 lantern
> It looks like those Philips MI26s will take over the world! - if it
wasn't
> for the Thorn Beta 5.
>
> Incidentally my Philips MI55 GT is has gear for an 18W SOX. There's
several
> things I don't understand here:
> Firstly the numbering - I assumed that '55' refers to 55W SOX. No,
the
> lantern can only accomdate a 35W SOX. (My thinking being that a
MI26 refers
> to a 26W SOX-E etc.)
> Secondly, I didn't think 18W SOX was used for street lighting. Yet
the
> lantern was removed from an old ESLA swan neck bracket.
>
> >I noticed the stack of streetlights in you garage you should
> >see my back Garden people say I must have enought streetlights
> >to Light up the whole county of Merseyside so many I have lost
> >count after 200
> The pile in the garage - well, it's going to take me a long time to
get all
> that restored - I guess I'm about a third of the way through it at
the
> moment ;-)
> As for collections getting out of control, its when you start
picking up
> lanterns you've already got, and have forgotten about, that things
have gone
> wrong!
> 
> >have you got any ESLA or other batwing lanterns for sale
> >as I am trying to find one  but having no luck as they were
> >replaced by Sodium lighting in the 1950s/60s
> Not at the moment - sorry. All the ones in my collection are
different
> angles and configurations - no dups at the moment.
>
> All the best,
> Simon



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----- Original Message -----

From: C J

To: UK_s_Streetlighting@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 7:18 PM

Subject: RE: [UK_s_Streetlighting] Re: newbie to group

Hi Simon

I may be able to solve the MI55 querry this may origanall might have been a MI50 lantern with a gear tray from a MI55 lantern which uses a 70w SON-I Lamp

The Local council may have modified it by changing the Lampholder and gear to accomodate a 18w SOX Lamp if there is a lable in the lantern see what details or written on it if not there may be a oval shaped formation in the centre this is to accomdate a 70w Son Lamp as it elliptical

failing this you lost me

All the Best

Colin

 Simon Cornwell <scornwell@...> wrote:

Hi guys,

>I like to thank you for the catalogues you done
>for me and Also for adding a link to the group
>to your website
No problemo.

>manage to get some streetlights last weekand
>today All philips MI50s both side entry and
>Top entry, MI26 and a Industria 2600 lantern
It looks like those Philips MI26s will take over the world! - if it wasn't
for the Thorn Beta 5.

Incidentally my Philips MI55 GT is has gear for an 18W SOX. There's several
things I don't understand here:
Firstly the numbering - I assumed that '55' refers to 55W SOX. No, the
lantern can only accomdate a 35W SOX. (My thinking being that a MI26 refers
to a 26W SOX-E etc.)
Secondly, I didn't think 18W SOX was used for street lighting. Yet the
lantern was removed from an old ESLA swan neck bracket.

>I noticed the stack of streetlights in you garage you should
>see my back Garden people say I must have enought streetlights
>to Light up the whole county of Merseyside so many I have lost
>count after 200
The pile in the garage - well, it's going to take me a long time to get all
that restored - I guess I'm about a third of the way through it at the
moment ;-)
As for collections getting out of control, its when you start picking up
lanterns you've already got, and have forgotten about, that things have gone
wrong!

>have you got any ESLA or other batwing lanterns for sale
>as I am trying to find one  but having no luck as they were
>replaced by Sodium lighting in the 1950s/60s
Not at the moment - sorry. All the ones in my collection are different
angles and configurations - no dups at the moment.

All the best,
Simon



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Hi Sander

I recall an electrician in St Helens called the Thorn Beta 7s and GEC Z8496s etc turtles as the shape of them, they look like a turtle with a lamp post stuck you know where (see photo attached)

All the Best

Colin

 "Sander <Santaarnpaal@...>" <Santaarnpaal@...> wrote:

Hi All,

Why are some British lanterns called turtles? What does mean this
name for some kind of lanterns?

Al the best

Sander Sloots



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Hi Simon

I may be able to solve the MI55 querry this may origanall might have been a MI50 lantern with a gear tray from a MI55 lantern which uses a 70w SON-I Lamp

The Local council may have modified it by changing the Lampholder and gear to accomodate a 18w SOX Lamp if there is a lable in the lantern see what details or written on it if not there may be a oval shaped formation in the centre this is to accomdate a 70w Son Lamp as it elliptical

failing this you lost me

All the Best

Colin

 Simon Cornwell <scornwell@...> wrote:

Hi guys,

>I like to thank you for the catalogues you done
>for me and Also for adding a link to the group
>to your website
No problemo.

>manage to get some streetlights last weekand
>today All philips MI50s both side entry and
>Top entry, MI26 and a Industria 2600 lantern
It looks like those Philips MI26s will take over the world! - if it wasn't
for the Thorn Beta 5.

Incidentally my Philips MI55 GT is has gear for an 18W SOX. There's several
things I don't understand here:
Firstly the numbering - I assumed that '55' refers to 55W SOX. No, the
lantern can only accomdate a 35W SOX. (My thinking being that a MI26 refers
to a 26W SOX-E etc.)
Secondly, I didn't think 18W SOX was used for street lighting. Yet the
lantern was removed from an old ESLA swan neck bracket.

>I noticed the stack of streetlights in you garage you should
>see my back Garden people say I must have enought streetlights
>to Light up the whole county of Merseyside so many I have lost
>count after 200
The pile in the garage - well, it's going to take me a long time to get all
that restored - I guess I'm about a third of the way through it at the
moment ;-)
As for collections getting out of control, its when you start picking up
lanterns you've already got, and have forgotten about, that things have gone
wrong!

>have you got any ESLA or other batwing lanterns for sale
>as I am trying to find one  but having no luck as they were
>replaced by Sodium lighting in the 1950s/60s
Not at the moment - sorry. All the ones in my collection are different
angles and configurations - no dups at the moment.

All the best,
Simon



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I don't think Phillips lantern numbers refer to the lamp size,i think
its in relation to the ballast serial mumber as our mi36's have bsx36
ballasts and the mi 26 have bsx 26,ma90 are bsx90l etc etc
     -- In UK_s_Streetlighting@yahoogroups.com, Simon Cornwell
<scornwell@s...> wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> >I like to thank you for the catalogues you done
> >for me and Also for adding a link to the group
> >to your website
> No problemo.
>
> >manage to get some streetlights last weekand
> >today All philips MI50s both side entry and
> >Top entry, MI26 and a Industria 2600 lantern
> It looks like those Philips MI26s will take over the world! - if it
wasn't
> for the Thorn Beta 5.
>
> Incidentally my Philips MI55 GT is has gear for an 18W SOX. There's
several
> things I don't understand here:
> Firstly the numbering - I assumed that '55' refers to 55W SOX. No,
the
> lantern can only accomdate a 35W SOX. (My thinking being that a
MI26 refers
> to a 26W SOX-E etc.)
> Secondly, I didn't think 18W SOX was used for street lighting. Yet
the
> lantern was removed from an old ESLA swan neck bracket.
>
> >I noticed the stack of streetlights in you garage you should
> >see my back Garden people say I must have enought streetlights
> >to Light up the whole county of Merseyside so many I have lost
> >count after 200
> The pile in the garage - well, it's going to take me a long time to
get all
> that restored - I guess I'm about a third of the way through it at
the
> moment ;-)
> As for collections getting out of control, its when you start
picking up
> lanterns you've already got, and have forgotten about, that things
have gone
> wrong!
>
> >have you got any ESLA or other batwing lanterns for sale
> >as I am trying to find one  but having no luck as they were
> >replaced by Sodium lighting in the 1950s/60s
> Not at the moment - sorry. All the ones in my collection are
different
> angles and configurations - no dups at the moment.
>
> All the best,
> Simon

Hi All,

Why are some British lanterns called turtles? What does mean this
name for some kind of lanterns?

Al the best

Sander Sloots

Hi guys,

>I like to thank you for the catalogues you done
>for me and Also for adding a link to the group
>to your website
No problemo.

>manage to get some streetlights last weekand
>today All philips MI50s both side entry and
>Top entry, MI26 and a Industria 2600 lantern
It looks like those Philips MI26s will take over the world! - if it wasn't
for the Thorn Beta 5.

Incidentally my Philips MI55 GT is has gear for an 18W SOX. There's several
things I don't understand here:
Firstly the numbering - I assumed that '55' refers to 55W SOX. No, the
lantern can only accomdate a 35W SOX. (My thinking being that a MI26 refers
to a 26W SOX-E etc.)
Secondly, I didn't think 18W SOX was used for street lighting. Yet the
lantern was removed from an old ESLA swan neck bracket.

>I noticed the stack of streetlights in you garage you should
>see my back Garden people say I must have enought streetlights
>to Light up the whole county of Merseyside so many I have lost
>count after 200
The pile in the garage - well, it's going to take me a long time to get all
that restored - I guess I'm about a third of the way through it at the
moment ;-)
As for collections getting out of control, its when you start picking up
lanterns you've already got, and have forgotten about, that things have gone
wrong!

>have you got any ESLA or other batwing lanterns for sale
>as I am trying to find one  but having no luck as they were
>replaced by Sodium lighting in the 1950s/60s
Not at the moment - sorry. All the ones in my collection are different
angles and configurations - no dups at the moment.

All the best,
Simon

Simon Cornwell <scornwell@...> writes
>>but we have many others like Lucidors and Alpha's
>>soldiering on
>Hmmmmm..... Lucidors. Big fat gear-in-head versions or skinny gearless ones?
>35W or
>90W? Interested collectors need to know ;-)

I remember visiting the South Lakes about 15 years ago...dunno if that
counts as South Cumbria(!)...and saw around the Lakeside and Bowness
areas lots of small mercury and incandescent fittings on group B height
concrete poles...very picturesque (he said, not knowing what Aureols
are!- anyone care to elaborate?) I suppose they're all replaced years
ago though...more's the pity...the 'ambience' of walking around at night
round there set me off with streetlights so the place has fond
memories...
--
..phil..

Hi Simon

I like to thank you for the catalogues you done for me and Also for adding a link to the group to your website manage to get some streetlights last week and today All philips MI50s both side entry and Top entry, MI26 and a Industria 2600 lantern

I noticed the stack of streetlights in you garage you should see my back Garden people say I must have enought streetlights to Light up the whole county of Merseyside so many I have lost count after 200

have you got any ESLA or other batwing lanterns for sale as I am trying to find one  but having no luck as they were replaced by Sodium lighting in the 1950s/60s

All the Best

Colin

 Simon Cornwell <scornwell@...> wrote:

alycidon22 <Alexander.Macdonald@...> wrote:

>but we have many others like Lucidors and Alpha's
>soldiering on
Hmmmmm..... Lucidors. Big fat gear-in-head versions or skinny gearless ones?
35W or
90W? Interested collectors need to know ;-)

Spent some of the weekend getting covered in little pieces of glass. It was
mirror
cutting time as I was replacing some of the smashed facets in my ESLA
lanterns...
it's definitely a learned art!

All the best,
Simon
http://www.simoncornwell.com/lighting


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alycidon22 <Alexander.Macdonald@...> wrote:

>but we have many others like Lucidors and Alpha's
>soldiering on
Hmmmmm..... Lucidors. Big fat gear-in-head versions or skinny gearless ones?
35W or
90W? Interested collectors need to know ;-)

Spent some of the weekend getting covered in little pieces of glass. It was
mirror
cutting time as I was replacing some of the smashed facets in my ESLA
lanterns...
it's definitely a learned art!

All the best,
Simon
http://www.simoncornwell.com/lighting

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From: mailto:alycidon22 <Alexander.Macdonald@...

To: UK_s_Streetlighting@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 7:09 PM

Subject: [UK_s_Streetlighting] Re: newbie to group

Well thanks for the welcome,i'm based in South Cumbria and was
previously employed by Websters.
Your welcome to any old lanterns or parts as its good to see some of
the older ones saved
unfortunatly many of the earlier types like Aureols have now gone but
we have many others like Lucidors and Alpha's soldiering on
            Mack
       --- In UK_s_Streetlighting@yahoogroups.com, "robert cookson"
<robert@c...> wrote:
> Hi Mack
>
> Why dump em when you can sell em( or better still give them) to us!
Where abouts are you based?
>
> Bob www.cooksonr.freeserve.co.uk
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: mailto:alycidon22 <Alexander.Macdonald@b...
>   To: UK_s_Streetlighting@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 10:44 AM
>   Subject: [UK_s_Streetlighting] newbie to group
>
>
>   Hi
>   I've just joined your little group as it seems a bit more uk
>   oriented,i must warn you's however i work on streetlighting for a
>   local authority and am the biggest culprit for getting rid of old
>   lanterns
>            Mack
>
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Well thanks for the welcome,i'm based in South Cumbria and was
previously employed by Websters.
Your welcome to any old lanterns or parts as its good to see some of
the older ones saved
unfortunatly many of the earlier types like Aureols have now gone but
we have many others like Lucidors and Alpha's soldiering on
             Mack
        --- In UK_s_Streetlighting@yahoogroups.com, "robert cookson"
<robert@c...> wrote:
> Hi Mack
>
> Why dump em when you can sell em( or better still give them) to us!
Where abouts are you based?
>
> Bob www.cooksonr.freeserve.co.uk
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>   Subject: [UK_s_Streetlighting] newbie to group
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>   I've just joined your little group as it seems a bit more uk
>   oriented,i must warn you's however i work on streetlighting for a
>   local authority and am the biggest culprit for getting rid of old
>   lanterns
>            Mack
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Hi All

I too agree with Robert as it is a shame that loads of streetlights get dumped I have manage to get streetlights from local council yard skips wich are anchient and even modern lanterns which have bee ripped out in lighting schemes that are brand new like the Thorn Beta 5s and the Industria 2600 lanterns

Any lantern that is damaged I always take the control gear lamps photocells etc off as for spares

At the moment Alstom who are a contractor for streetlighting are removing some lighting columns around Crosby Merseyside area and I manage to get some Philips MI50s both side and Top entry versions and even a top 4 ft piece of a hockey stick type lamppost with a lantern attached to it

I will be adding two more folders in the photo albums one containig Timeswiches and the other containing Photocells used for streetlighting and one showing different types of control gear from various manufacturers etc and one which wi show types of brackest and lamppost will be added soon

All the Best

Colin

 robert cookson <robert@...> wrote:

Hi Mack

 

Why dump em when you can sell em( or better still give them) to us! Where abouts are you based?

 

Bob www.cooksonr.freeserve.co.uk

 

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From: mailto:alycidon22 <Alexander.Macdonald@...

To: UK_s_Streetlighting@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 10:44 AM

Subject: [UK_s_Streetlighting] newbie to group

Hi
I've just joined your little group as it seems a bit more uk
oriented,i must warn you's however i work on streetlighting for a
local authority and am the biggest culprit for getting rid of old
lanterns
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robert cookson <robert@...> writes
>  I've just joined your little group as it seems a bit more uk
>  oriented,i must warn you's however i work on streetlighting for a
>  local authority and am the biggest culprit for getting rid of old
>  lanterns

You're gonna have a _big_ queue of folks asking for stuff after saying
that! Can I join the queue too? <g>
:-)
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Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 10:44 AM

Subject: [UK_s_Streetlighting] newbie to group

Hi
I've just joined your little group as it seems a bit more uk
oriented,i must warn you's however i work on streetlighting for a
local authority and am the biggest culprit for getting rid of old
lanterns
         Mack



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Hi
I've just joined your little group as it seems a bit more uk
oriented,i must warn you's however i work on streetlighting for a
local authority and am the biggest culprit for getting rid of old
lanterns
          Mack

Hi All

Recently there are Streetlighting replacements going on within the Sefton area of Merseyside UK they are Crosby, Netherton, and Bootle as there are a lot of Road works too which is currently hampering me traveling to these Locations which is annoying me as in some of the streets there are lanterns dating back to the 1950s  They are AEI, ELECO and GEC lanterns also there are old Relite, GEC and early Philips MA50/90s from the 1970s and some MI50s both Side Entery and Top entry versions

Trust the Council to Block the Main Road where I live and divert public Transport miles out of the way

Hope fully the Road works might be finnished before the Streetlighting refurbishment are finnished

All the Best

Colin

Hi Colin

Glad you are pleased with the Gamma 6 canopy

To undo the grub screws you can first use WD-40 failing that soak them overnight in a drum of Diesel or Paint brush cleaner as this has Kerosene as this works over 80% of the time if this fails try and heat them but be careful as this may weaken the metal, if all fails try and drill them out with a slow speed drill failing that I cant help

If they are the same as the lights in Enfield Avenue in Crosby you may have a hell of a job as these streetlights are Pre War my father remembers them when they had Mercury Lanterns on them and they were changed them for SOX lanterns similar to the Thorn top entry Beta 5s and Philips MI50 GT top entry lanterns in the 1980s 

Good Luck

Lee

 C J <colin75uk@...> wrote:

Hi Lee

Yes it was me you saw carrying the streetlight It was ripped out form Merrilocks Road in Blundellsands and a fellow streetlighting collector got it for me

The only snag is the top of the lamppost is still on it as the grub screws are rusted into  the cup on the swanneck with sea air

I am going to grind it level and try and get a base welded to it ot make it stand

Thanks for the Gamma 6 canopy I will try and find a bowl and top for it when I either see any in a Street Lighting Depot or being ripped out

All the Best

Colin

 Lee <sodiumlamp_man@...> wrote:

Hello Colin

 

I was doing a Wiring job in Formby this morning and When I was driving home this afternoon I noticed A male cycling up Fleetwoods Lane by the Cabbage Pub with a green coloured swan neck streetlight over his shoulder it wasn't you was it.

 

I will be Dropping the Gamma 6 canopy off at yours tomorrow it is for a 80w Mercury Lamp 3 Pin BC type

 

Reguards

 

Lee

 

 

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Hi Lee

Yes it was me you saw carrying the streetlight It was ripped out form Merrilocks Road in Blundellsands and a fellow streetlighting collector got it for me

The only snag is the top of the lamppost is still on it as the grub screws are rusted into  the cup on the swanneck with sea air

I am going to grind it level and try and get a base welded to it ot make it stand

Thanks for the Gamma 6 canopy I will try and find a bowl and top for it when I either see any in a Street Lighting Depot or being ripped out

All the Best

Colin

 Lee <sodiumlamp_man@...> wrote:

Hello Colin

 

I was doing a Wiring job in Formby this morning and When I was driving home this afternoon I noticed A male cycling up Fleetwoods Lane by the Cabbage Pub with a green coloured swan neck streetlight over his shoulder it wasn't you was it.

 

I will be Dropping the Gamma 6 canopy off at yours tomorrow it is for a 80w Mercury Lamp 3 Pin BC type

 

Reguards

 

Lee

 

 

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Hello Colin

I was doing a Wiring job in Formby this morning and When I was driving home this afternoon I noticed A male cycling up Fleetwoods Lane by the Cabbage Pub with a green coloured swan neck streetlight over his shoulder it wasn't you was it.

I will be Dropping the Gamma 6 canopy off at yours tomorrow it is for a 80w Mercury Lamp 3 Pin BC type

Reguards

Lee

Hi All

I have added some of the rare lamps which were used in Streetlighting
in to the folder called Discharge Lamps I have in My Collection

they include a Old Narva Clear HPS-E Lamp which I bought from Amy
(mercury_1kw) which was made in the Old Eastern Block of Brelin when
under control of the Soviet Union before the end of the cold war and
Peristroika and Glasnost when we lived under the threat of a Nuclear
War

also there are lamps from the 1930s like the Osram (GEC) MA/V lamp
and also SLI/H lamps in 60w and 200w they look like Fluorescent Tubes
and also is the baby of the Low pressure Sodium Lamps a 10 watt SOX
lamp

there ate a wide range of mercury lamps which are discontinud a first
design of a MBF/U lamp from the 1950s and MB/U lamp from 1961

More Lamps to be added at a Later Date

All the Best

Colin

Hi Colin

I shall be the first to post I have left streetlights_l as why people
are there to cause trouble and Amy has explained what has happened
with your P C she has also explained other things

I have saved you the 400w MH lamp for you it is Clear Elliptical
(looks the same as a 400w SON-E/MBF/U lamp) and is made by Venture
and is for use on HPS gear

As soon as I get the Gamma 6 Light unit from Amy and change it on a
job I shal also give you the one which is being replaced it is for a
80 MBF/U lamp with a 3-pin BC cap

I hope we dont have any problems with members of this group

Lee