I'm thinking that Johnny's might have been located where 'Jim's Lunch"
now operates.  The group that went on my Augusta-Branchville tour ate
there.  Pretty nice.

Shame that Johnny's wasn't open on the 'Last Day.' Ed Montgomery, a
passenger on that train in 1966 said he and his friend had a few hours
to kill in Branchville, but that the whole town was shut down--not even
so much as a soda machine!

Don Shorock wrote:
>
> In the 1960's, Johnny's was THE gathering place in downtown Branchville.
> The name of the place told you they sold tobacco (pipe tobacco for me, but
> also cigarettes & cigars).
> It was MUCH more than that, though.  There was a large magazine rack and a
> big stack of newspapers, esp. on Sundays.
> On the right as you walked in was a long counter, behind which was a grill,
> so you could have coffee and a donut or a hamburger or whatever.
> When we were camping at Stokes Forest, we'd often go to Johnny's, esp. on a
> Sunday morning to buy the Sunday paper, have some coffee and more, and sit
> around a learn all of the real local news.
> Location was at the downtown crossroads on the northwest corner.
>
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New Jersey Herald - July 11, 1872

The last rail on the new Sussex branch across the
meadows was laid last week, and on the 4th of July all the
trains on the Sussex road ran over the branch. Since that
time gravel trains have been ballasting the road and it is
expected that the road will be in perfect running order in
a few days. The building of the contemplated new brick
passenger depot with the proposed accommodations, has
been postponed and in its stead a temporary frame
structure is now being erected. The excavation for the
foundation of the other still remain, and it is to be hoped
that before long that Newton can be able to boast of a
long needed commodity--a passenger depot that will be a
credit to this town.
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The position of operator at the (Stanhope) station appears to be a
difficult one to fill, as the third operator in a week is trying it. Mr.
Heinz did not like the position and left. So did another operator who
tried it for one day, and now Frank Drake is filling the position, and
we would be pleased to see his appointment made permanent even though he
is a young man who is starting out in life with a position right at home.
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Sorry about the delay,  My isp was down after a lightning storm and I've
been busy elsewhere.

The last passenger train left Branchville New Jersey on July 10, 1966.

The last passenger train left Newton, New Jersey on July 13, 1966

And for the record, the last passenger train left Andover, New Jersey on
October 2, 1966.

Service to Branchville was only on Saturdays and Sundays (the milk
trains) for years before abandonment.
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> Don - Thanks for uploading the timetables. I found it
> interesting that passenger service stopped at Newton.
>
> Does anyone know when passenger trains stopped going
> to Branchville?

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I have just finished the drawings in the modeling section of my site for
the Lackawanna station in Franklin, New Jersey which was shared with the
Susquehanna.  About two full sides of this station had to be
extrapolated, (guessed at,) but I think it is a fair representation of
what once was.  Hopefully it will help anyone who wishes to model the
Susquehanna's Hanford branch or the Lackawanna's Franklin line of the
Sussex Branch.

As usual, any feedback would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Dave

The drawings are available at this link:
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On those timetables, they still went to Branchville on weekends.


----- Original Message -----
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Don - Thanks for uploading the timetables. I found it
interesting that passenger service stopped at Newton.

Does anyone know when passenger trains stopped going
to Branchville?

Bob Mitchell


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I believe it was July 14 1966 ...
for both Branchville and Newton ??

jc

Don - Thanks for uploading the timetables. I found it
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to Branchville?

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Fred,

The Waterloo station story is involved.  There were at least 2.  The
first one was two stories and barn-like.  It supposedly burned down in
the 1920s.  I'm working on documenting this.

The second station was smaller--it must have been, as I've spoken to the
woman who grew up in it.  Her Uncle Willis bought the station and moved
it to a location south of the Netcong circle on 206 (103 Rt. 206)  It
still exists as a rental--threatened on one side by Meier Stone and by
the ever widening Rt. 206 on the other.

Lowenthal's book: 'The Lackawanna RR in Northwest NJ' has a picture of a
small shack on the station site at Waterloo, but this is too small
(IMHO) to be the dwelling in question.

>From what I read today at the library, I theorize that somewhere after
1922 the big stationed burned.  The DLW built a smaller one which the
retired agent lived in as a caretaker.

Sometime around 1942 (?) the DLW abandoned the westbound main and I
think it was at that time the small station was purchased and moved.  I
think the DLW THEN put up the small shack until it disappeared.

(an incomplete story, but hey, I needed a hobby.)

Dave

fheilich@... wrote:
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> The Waterloo station was supposedly moved years ago and made into a residence
> somewhere near I-80.  Any info to verify this?

(snip)
>
> Fred

The Waterloo station was supposedly moved years ago and made into a residence
somewhere near I-80.  Any info to verify this?

The maps I have are from Netcong to Branchville.  Some I had microfilmed
years ago.  At Warbasse Jct it shows a complete interchange with the NYS&W
(proposed or real?)on the west side toward the humus company spur off the
NYS&W with several yard tracks and a connection with the NYS&W on the Sparta
side with several storage tracks.  This whole setup formed a wye with the
NYS&W on the Newton side of the NYS&W.  Also shows the Sussex Branch wye and
a yard but more detailed than the site drawing.  These are very difficult to
see as they were erased during revisions.  Also, for Branchville you can see
the shadows of the old track alignment prior to the station being moved from
one side of the tracks to the other.  It shows that the station was moved to
a spot on top of the lead to the Branchville turntable.

Dave send your address and I'll mail the maps as  B-size drawings or we can
meet on a weekend when I'm up in Blairstown.

Fred

Fred ,

I know the guy who scanned in Wayne Phillips' maps.  They are very dark
and need some work.  I wonder if yours are any better.  Wanna share?

Dave
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> also has some of them.
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> Fred W. Heilich

Well, the gem of the day would have to be this article stating when the
agency was discontinued at Waterloo.  I didn't have time to crosscheck
it with the other two papers, but...

Stanhope Eagle - May 24, 1922 issue

Waterloo station, on Monday, with the permission of the Public Utilities
commission, had its agent and telegrapher, J.W.A. Lee, removed, making
it a non-agency station, with caretaker in charge.
The express and freight will be billed through Hackettstown. Since the
Sussex Railroad was run into Netcong in 1902, business has been
comparatively small. Mr. Lee had been operator for twenty three years
previous to that time at Waterloo, and was made its agent ten years ago,
and is now retired on a pension.
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I have a set of valuation maps of the Sussex and Warren Branches from the
Erie-Lackawanna estate.  Some are on microfilm.  I be;ieve Wayne Phillips
also has some of them.

Fred W. Heilich

Gene,

Thanks. I hope you'll take a few photos of your project so all can share
in your experience.

If you come up this way, maybe we can get a hike together.  I think I
can find something to say off the top of my head for most locations now.

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> to travel back to NJ and do some trecking along the right of way.
> Dave's site has been a great inspiration to me.  It has caused me to
> stop a number of my modeling projects and start construction of the
> Branchville depot.
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Gene,

I'm working on that.  I have some access to a 1960 Val Map of
Branchville, but it's in terrible shape.  Next best thing would be to
take the Schaumburg track map from the modeling section
(http://srr_1854.tripod.com/Modeling/trax-schaumburg.JPG)  It needs some
adjusting, but generally I think it's pretty much there.

Maybe I can work something up for you.

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Has anyone seen a trackplan for Branchville in the later years?  I am
trying to plan a diorama and need to get a sense for the track layout.
Thanks,
Gene Deimling

I hope that this group creates a forum for discussion on the Sussex
Branch.  I have been a long-time fan the line ever since I lived in
NJ back in the 1950s and early 1960s.   One fo these days, I intend
to travel back to NJ and do some trecking along the right of way.
Dave's site has been a great inspiration to me.  It has caused me to
stop a number of my modeling projects and start construction of the
Branchville depot.

Gene Deimling

Despite what my fellow Franklinites remember about the 1920s, I think
I've pretty much got a case that shows a turntable WAS constructed in
Franklin in August of 1872.  Three articles (below) from 3 different
newspapers all state that one was being built near the depot.

Being as the Sussex Railroad entered Franklin proper in September of
1870, I'm wondering if the turntable didn't have something to do with
the Pochuck mines in McAfee.  In 1872 the railroad was building to
McAfee and completed a new depot there as well as an engine house.

Lowenthal's work has a statistical survey of the Sussex Railroad which
clearly states a turntable existed in Franklin, but there is no evidence
(yet) of it existing after the 1880s.  This could be because when the
predecessor of the Lehigh & Hudson built down from Warwick in 1880, they
built a turntable for themselves. Perhaps the SRR was allowed to use it
and no longer needed the one at Franklin.

Someday I'll find a map or a photograph of the turntable next to the
Franklin Station!

Dave
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Sussex Independent - August 16, 1872 issue
Franklin Items

The Sussex R. R. Co. are building a turn-table near the depot, and
making other improvements in its vicinity.
--
New Jersey Herald - August 22, 1872 issue
The Sussex Railroad Company are building a new turn-table near the depot
at Franklin.
--
Sussex Register - August 22, 1872 issue
The new depot on the Sussex Extension is to be located a quarter of a
mile south of McAfee Corner, on lands formerly owned by William Smith, Jr.
The work on the Sussex Railroad, at Franklin, under the management of
Chief Engineer Thompson, is progressing finely. About 20 men are
employed in building a new side track and turn-table.
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