Next case: In German we call any motive power not chased by Helena ;-) a "Triebwagen". English and American publications mainly speak about "multiple units"...
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Roger Graham
roger_w_graham
Nov 13, 2007 10:39 pm
... From: "Guerbetaler" <guerbetaler@...> ... When I first began taking an interest in British Railways (both the concept and the company), it is my...
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Nigel Emery
nigelemery
Nov 13, 2007 10:49 pm
... In the UK we generally use the term multiple unit i.e. Diesel Multiple Unit (DMU). Sometimes the term railcar is also used in particular when referring to...
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Nigel Emery
nigelemery
Nov 13, 2007 10:49 pm
... The railways were maintained by for example the Civil Engineering Department of the railway company. Hence the wagons, specialist vehicles etc. have always...
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Manfred Sandtner
msandtner
Nov 13, 2007 10:57 pm
Well, not the best article I have seen. At least in the German language area 'Draisine' includes what is called in english 'motor scooter' or (small) 'motor ...
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+GF+
bodenseetogg...
Nov 13, 2007 11:13 pm
... Names that I have seen or heard in the US = RDC (Rail Diesel Car); self powered coach; DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit); and EMU (Electric Multiple Unit) +GF+ ...
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Bill Bolton
billbolton16
Nov 13, 2007 11:13 pm
... In some parts of Australia they are called a "casey", in others a "speeder" or a "ganger's trolley". Cheers, Bill Bill Bolton Sydney, Australia...
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Markus
guerbetal
Nov 13, 2007 11:18 pm
Latest info about the four Re 425 involved in a collision in Biel-Mett is saying that three of them should be repaired. Markus, Gürbetal...
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John Beaulieu
johnfbeaulieu
Nov 13, 2007 11:27 pm
... In the US "Motor Coach" and "Intercity Bus" are the same. A nearby bus company to me is named "Lakeland Motor Coaches" They charter coaches to Sporting...
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Bill Bolton
billbolton16
Nov 13, 2007 11:32 pm
... From jurisdictions where the railway system was Government owned and operated by a "Railways Department" of the public instrumentality (whatever form it...
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Tim Hall
Timjh
Nov 13, 2007 11:34 pm
... Technically an obselete term as far as Britain is concerned, since infrastructure trains are now treated as revenue-earning traffic by the freight...
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Guerbetaler
guerbetal
Nov 13, 2007 11:37 pm
... o.k. Swiss use in German language is: motor coach in the US sense = Car bus = Bus Lakeland Motor Coaches would be Seeland Carreisen in Switzerland. ... I...
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Fionnbarr Kennedy
disco1ie
Nov 14, 2007 12:07 am
... Great :-) Love to know which ones when that info is available Fionnbarr www.fionnbarr.com...
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Michael Taylor
michael_john...
Nov 14, 2007 12:11 am
<<No solution for "Triebwagen"?>> I admit to using railcars as the generic term to describe these things on my website, even when some are technically VT and...
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Blaine Bachman
blaineoftrains
Nov 14, 2007 5:39 am
Draisine: I found several Italian language sites (including wikipedia) that give the story that the term come from the Count Friedrich Drais Von Sauerbronn,...
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csipromo
Nov 14, 2007 6:41 am
... I don't think that they were very popular. The Germans used armoured railway vehicles to scout and secure train lines as part of their invasion of Poland...
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Illya Vaes
illyavaes
Nov 14, 2007 8:23 am
... Funny. In the Netherlands, the official distinction is between a single self-propelled (by diesel) car ("(diesel)motorwagen") and a unit consisting of more...
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Andrew Moglestue
amogles
Nov 14, 2007 8:32 am
... As far as I am aware, this word is of British Rail origin, so presumably a relaitively modern creation. Possibly it was a creation of the TOPS numbering...
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Andrew Moglestue
amogles
Nov 14, 2007 8:48 am
... single ... In the Dutch trains though, you typically have more than one motor coach per 'treinstel'. Many of the British types had only one vehicle ...
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Manfred Luckmann
manfredluckmann
Nov 14, 2007 8:55 am
... with this in mind the german ICE-1 would be no EMU but ICE-2, ICE-3 and ICE-T would be EMUs (and the ICE-TD would be a DMU) wondering Manfred...
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Heléna Moretti
helena11403
Nov 14, 2007 9:05 am
Markus <guerbetaler@...> wrote: "Next case: In German we call any motive power not chased by Helena ;-) a "Triebwagen". English and American...
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Illya Vaes
illyavaes
Nov 14, 2007 9:08 am
... (Missed the original question about Departmental, so I hope I don't duplicate anything) I suppose it originates from the Engineering Department (or what it...
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Illya Vaes
illyavaes
Nov 14, 2007 9:18 am
... [...] This means that you insist on interpreting the "multiple"; in DMU/EMU as "multiple traction" - two or more traction packages working together. What I...
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Heléna Moretti
helena11403
Nov 14, 2007 9:58 am
You will have to excuse me, as my German is poor, but I think that EA11/07 reports 11141 is now being used as a transformer in the Zurich Altstetten...
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Andrew Moglestue
amogles
Nov 14, 2007 10:44 am
... or not, there are many railfans who chase them as locomotives but I personally do not think they are. They are power cars as they cannot be powered...
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Andrew Moglestue
amogles
Nov 14, 2007 10:50 am
... line ... or indeed the Spanish 352 which had to be turned on a turntable or a track triangle at the end of every trip because it had a cab at only one end...
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Andy Micklethwaite
amicklethwaite
Nov 14, 2007 12:17 pm
... As Nigel said, even the English can't agree on what should be a multiple unit! I seem to recall discussion on this list about NPZs in this context not...
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Tim David
talltim10
Nov 14, 2007 12:17 pm
... My understanding was always that the multiple referred the fact that there was more than one car in the unit, thus a railcar was the single car version of...
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Bill Bolton
billbolton16
Nov 14, 2007 12:18 pm
... "Multiple unit" is a control approach. It involves a "master controller" of some sort mounted on each powered unit and a "remote" control facility (that...
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Michael Taylor
michael_john...
Nov 14, 2007 12:19 pm
Andrew said: <<As far as I am aware, this word is of British Rail origin, so presumably a relaitively modern creation. Possibly it was a creation of the TOPS...
