How were type and build from the 19th century American Thoroughbreds please? Were there several types and were there heavy types with heavy bone? Were they...
The 19th century American TB was still being bred to run 4 mile heats into the 1870s, although the shift to dash racing and shorter distance began to affect...
"Your questions seem to imply that the breed has degraded from the 19th century when I would argue the opposite." Please don't get me wrong. I am not implying...
"Your questions seem to imply that the breed has degraded from the 19th century when I would argue the opposite." Please don't get me wrong. I am not implying...
Thank you. Would you happen to know the correct sire of Flying Home (1918) x Eryholme? Ped Query and Tesio Power has Barcadaile, and Ulbrich's Peerage has...
Fillagree is correct, spelt that way three times in General Stud Book Vol. 3. Eryholme was covered by both Flying Orb and Barcadaile, and the names appear in...
Not a problem, didn't mean to sound argumentative. As for the 18th Century horses, it seems no matter what the breed, you still find the most important TB...
Hi Tony, ... Up to now I only knew her as "Filagree" with one "l". I looked her up in: a) GSB, vol. IV, 2nd ed. of 1840, p. 165 (Filagree) b) GSB, vol. V, ed....
I don't have my book in front of me, and I don't pretend to follow QH history very closely, but the argument being described from the other boboard sounds a...
Hi Judy, There is another cross in the following string. Thanks to Liz for being my editor: Faithless 1887 by Foster Mare 1881 by Tom Gay Lady Grey 1866 x Red...
... My error - I left Lady Grey out of the damline for Faithless in my original message. Mea culpa. And thank you *very* much for the information. In your...
... Fwiw, breed notwithstanding, I think cow sense is just a reflection of intelligence and early training. My in-law's family ranch's personal foundation...
Hi Judy, ... I have the following: a81 *Croucher a82 Madam Tonson a83 Prince Mare ... I haven't finished putting a83 into a formal tree yet, since several...
Thank you all for your reactions. Some foundation people say that in the early QH one could find Morgans, Arabians, Standardbreds and even Percherons. Ofcourse...
... Madam Tonson & Czarina by Dictator's line are two of the ones I have. In regard to Lizzie Rivers (Madam Tonson's line), I'm a bit suspicious of the dates....
... Here's another one that I haven't had any success correlating w/ numbered lines - Fleecie P., 1868 by Bulletin dam by Revenue Mare by Wagner Mare by...
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/fred+bailey Please look at this horse for example, he does have race blood/TB blood but he doesn't really look like a runner in...
By the way, the halter horses also have a lot of TB blood. Does TB blood produce in some situations so much muscle that a horse can't even be raced because of...
Some time ago, a list of quite interesting foreign sires appearing in the book Sires of American Thoroughbreds were discussed here. Perhaps some of these --not...
... Hi Elles, I am no expert by any means, but it seems that the TB carries the heavy muscle mass looking very similar to QH, and that doesn't mean the TB...
Hi Judy, Thanks for the chart of winners! ... Lizzie Batchelor first shows up in ASB 4:520 with a pedigree reading 1881 chf x Endower - Rusaw, unknown. No...
Hi Lucinda, Thank you for answering my question. What is the name of your horse so I can look up her pedigree please? I think size does not have to do much...
At home I have a book with pedigrees of TB sires that were used for breeding QH's and there are the most rare and unfamiliar pedigrees among them. I shall see...
Hallo, George, at least of a few names I can provide you with a few informations: Agregat (by Artist's Proof) Fam. 1-h, A Hungarianbred sire is the damsire...
... They do, but many TBs have historically had Arabian-sounding names. Just look at Nasrullah, Mumtaz Mahal, Mumtaz Begum, and many of the horses racing for...
CESARIO which took the World Oaks at Hollywood Park the pther day has many ggerman strains in her nlooflines- amongst them one GRAF FERRY (ger) 1918 is a new...
