Bruce, Let me add to this some specifics I have on Lofty: Lofty stood at stud at the Middle Ferry in Philadelphia in 1774, as Jacob Hiltzheimer's diaries...
I just have to say that you guys amaze me. Hunting for information on horses from waaaayyyy back. How in the heck do you all ever track a horse back that far? ...
Dear terri, If you are in KY, go Keene Land library, It has information on all american breeds and then some. Ask questions as one of the librarians there has...
Dear Monica, Very interesting, If you have followed my posts, you will note I am trying to identify Delancey's third stallion. After being stolen in 1780 he...
Here is the known racing record of Hutton's Lofty, along with the section written by Fairfax Harrison in Early American Turf Stock. Also see my note that...
Terre, Could you please supply me with the information of this Grandson. I will be happy if you could supply me with as much information as you have. Contact...
Hi, Just wondering here Wallace got the pedigrees that he listed as: "Lofty, bay 1408, Foaled 17-, got by Wildair 2754; dam black by Black and All Black 246,...
Dear A.J., Your explanation blew me away. Given what you know about Allen's & Hutton's Lofty, perhaps you can tell me more about Old England. Holem's England...
Hi Roxanne, Both entries appear to have been lifted straight from Edgar(1833), whose misidentifcation of Goode's (et al.) Lofty was corrected by F. Harrison...
dear AJ, Judy or Richard or anyone else out there, Your posts are great, I do not want to be bothersome, but I have not found what I am looking for yet. I...
Bruce, HERO (Bay c. 1757) by Holme's Young Starling (Gr c. 1751 x Starling) - Old Rock's dam x Slipby - Meynell x Croft's Partner. Family # 12 Imported in...
Hi Bruce, ... Harrison clearly distinguishes between Jacemiah Smith's *Hero and Delancey's *Hero, aka:True Briton. Smith's *Hero (1757 bc x Holme's Young...
Dear judy, Thanks, The bay colt by Wildair out a daughter of Old Dawson (To well known to well known in these, that I shall not swell this paper with his...
This mare was list wildairs advertisment of april, 15, 1771. "The first that Wildair got, that started and won 4 year-old Plate at Philidelphia beating five...
I'm not sure I can help. I have been working on the Hutton horses for several years now, so have quite a file of them, using primarily the English racing...
Bruce, Harrison mentions Angelica in his discussion of *Wildair's get, noting that she was foaled 1766, that she was not mentioned in the ASB, and that her dam...
Dear Judy, So if I understand what Fairfax Harrison wrote or did not write about Angelica. #1 James Delancy advertised Wildair in 1771 and listed two races...
I know I asked this before but the information I have does not add up.If what is stated below is correct then this horse was imported. Gift, f. 1768 by...
List, who imported, where and owners? Master Stephen aka Bonny Face, f. 1768 by Regulus son, dam by Blunderbuss, 2nd dam by Place's White Turk, 3rd dam Barb...
Hi Bruce, From Early American Turf Stock ii:152 "The get of *Wildair: With the English adv'ts. of *Wildair for 1773 & 1774 were printed three ctfs. by Mr....
Bruce, The information on this horse that I have is that he was NOT IMPORTED. The Imported horse could have been GIFT Lord Cravens or Little Gift (b/br c 1745)...
... Pedigree from Edgar amended by Harrison - Master Stephen (C.Blake's) Allen's, Fitzhugh's & Peyton's, b.c. 1768 x a Son of Regulus; out of a mare called...
Dear richard, I guess that is possible, which makes more questions. If he did not get imported what happened to him? Why did HWH not think he was wrong? Why...
Dear judy, this is almost word for word what wa printed in 1771. i added the words missing in red. 'of my mare Angelica [b.m. 1766; not in ASB and dam not...
Dear judy and richard, In each case you cite below the alternative horse is also listed by HWH in 1860. i am taking these horse from his corrected list, not...
Bruce, I started to go through my records for horses owned by De Lancey of New York. Came across this note. BASHAW (USA) (b c. 1768) x Wildair (b c. 1753 x...
... Bruce, Harrison cites Pick (iii:136) and Weatherby's Calendar as evidence against exportation of Prince Ferdinand; Pick (ii:197) a 1774 advt. and dates...