Here is a question for thesaurus standards experts: Is the relationship
between a company name and its corresponding industry considered to be
hierarchical (broader term whole-part) or rather an associative
relationship (with a corporate entity type being the broader term
generic for company name entities)?

-- Heather

>>--- In TaxoCoP@yahoogroups.com, Marc Shimpeno <marcshimp@...> wrote:
>> I would definitely consider the relationship to be hierarchical and
do in my current Industry/Company taxonomy. ...
>>
>> Heather Hedden <heather@...> wrote:
>> Here is a question for thesaurus standards experts


US experts have already worked :
From ANSI/NISO Z39.19-2005
***8.3.2 Instance Relationships***
This relationship identifies the link between a general category of
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instance of that category, often a proper name. This type of
relationship is also known as an "IsA" relationship.
8.3.2.1 Codes for the Instance Relationship
The hierarchical instance relationship may be indicated by the
following abbreviations:
• BTI = Broader term (instance)
• NTI = Narrower term (instance)

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of Business Objects, the support web service has discontinued. Does
anybody know if this service will be online again?

In addition, I am interested in tutorials and demostrations on
solutions for semi-automatic categorization into an existing controlled
vocabulary (taxonomies, thesauri...), based on (search) rules or
exemplary documents. Does anybody knows this kind of online tutorials,
similar to Inxight Categorizer?

TIA

Miquel Centelles

I have just about completed the first stage of my Alphabetical
Internet Index. See << http://www.alphabet icalist.com >>

My strategy has been to wade through 13 primary and authoritative
targets and use their "topics" as a start for a controlled vocabulary.
Those "targets" are at the top of every alphabetical page.

I have also checked out and linked to various small independent sites.

I have about 8,000 links that cover approximately 5,000 topics.

I plan to continue to look for good information on the existing topics
and link to that information. I will also add topics as needed.

Comments are invited regarding (a) the indexing on the site,(b)
the validity of this general approach to generating an Internet Index
and (c) this method of compiling a controlled vocabulary for internet
indexing.

If you consider my approach faulty, please suggest a better way to
select topics for an internet index.

Thanks in advance for your comments.


Marty Carbone

The link is my last message was broken. It should be as shown below.

<< http://www.alphabeticalist.com >>

Hi Martin - I've seen your posts in the past about this, so thanks for
keeping us updated on how this is proceeding.

One thing I have to say that has nothing to do with your experiment -
that little "bug" that crawls around on the home page is probably just
about as annoying a "widget" as I've ever seen.  It is seriously
detracting and gratuitous and I thought for about 10 seconds that
there actually was a small fly on my screen.  I'd remove that.  That
might be just me, though :-)

Other comments:

* I don't like the use of lots of colors on the letters on the home
page.  It doesn't look all that "professional" to me when it uses
that.

* The top-of-page prominence of ads is a turn off (and take up a lot
of screen real estate).

* Clicking through on the "A" list - which you've mentioned before has
been a focusing of completion for your test:

   * My immediate reaction is, "Wow, that's a lot of text at the top!"
I see all of two links of the links on page before I'd have to scroll
down.  And those are actually just links from the "prime targets", not
even the content links themselves.

   * Now, as to the list of terms - I don't see any coherence or
apparent guidelines for what's shown.  We have, for example, "17. a
(an) - ad. one; any; each (voa)" which doesn't even have any links.
What's that doing for a user?  And we have 4 items for AARP (one of
which is at least a little different - "AARP national events").  Is
the intent to have a separate item here for every source's set of
links?

   * If I were a user using this site, I'm not sure it does anything
for me other than change where / how I would search.  For example, why
is it a better (more user friendly or however you want to think of it)
experience for me to navigate to this site, click on A and then use my
browser's "Find" function to find (for example), "African History"
then it would be for me to use my favorite search engine and type in
those keywords and perform a search?  This site provides no real
grouping so it doesn't seem to add to the information hierarchy around
content and a user is left guessing under what keywords they would
find something here rather than guessing keywords to use in a search
engine.  No different.

   * Equivalently, I think Wikipedia positions itself (or some users do
anyway) as an authority on topics of all kinds.  Two questions related
to your effort:  If you take that idea as a given, it would seem like
every Wikipedia page should be listed in this alphabetical list,
right?  Is that your plan?  Conversely, why would/should a user start
with this index site to find information about a topic in lieu of
Wikipedia?  Just wondering about your strategy on this point.

* From a maintenance perspective - How do you envision it ever being
"real world" to ever keep this kind of index current at all?  Things
will constantly be added and removed from sites and there is no
meaningful way to keep this site updated that I can tell.  What kind
of strategy are you using for this?

Regards
Lee Romero

On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Martin Carbone <martycarbone@...> wrote:
> I have just about completed the first stage of my Alphabetical
> Internet Index. See << http://www.alphabet icalist.com >>
>
> My strategy has been to wade through 13 primary and authoritative
> targets and use their "topics" as a start for a controlled vocabulary.
> Those "targets" are at the top of every alphabetical page.
>
> I have also checked out and linked to various small independent sites.
>
> I have about 8,000 links that cover approximately 5,000 topics.
>
> I plan to continue to look for good information on the existing topics
> and link to that information. I will also add topics as needed.
>
> Comments are invited regarding (a) the indexing on the site,(b)
> the validity of this general approach to generating an Internet Index
> and (c) this method of compiling a controlled vocabulary for internet
> indexing.
>
> If you consider my approach faulty, please suggest a better way to
> select topics for an internet index.
>
> Thanks in advance for your comments.
>
>
> Marty Carbone
>

Lee -- thanks for the comments. I will respond below after the //////

--- In TaxoCoP@yahoogroups.com, "Lee Romero" <pekadad@...> wrote in part:

> One thing I have to say that has nothing to do with your experiment
> that little "bug" that crawls around on the home page is probably
>just about as annoying a "widget" as I've ever seen.


/////// You are probably right -- my brother thinks it is about the
best thing on the website. I will remove it

> * I don't like the use of lots of colors on the letters on the home
> page.  It doesn't look all that "professional" to me when it uses
> that.

///////// I thought I needed a little decorating -- so I put as little
as I could

> * The top-of-page prominence of ads is a turn off (and take up a lot
> of screen real estate).

/////// I just put up the ads yesterday -- so I don't know how I feel
about them. I can move them to side column -- or to the bottom of the
page. From what I have read -- most viewers do not mind static ads. I
will certainly bear your comment in mind.


> * Clicking through on the "A" list - ...
>   * My immediate reaction is, "Wow, that's a lot of text at the top!"

/////////// I agree -- I should probably move most of that
introductory stuff elsewhere. The other alphabetical pages do not have
that much extraneous stuff.

>   * Now, as to the list of terms - I don't see any coherence or
> apparent guidelines for what's shown.

//////////// Because the list is alphabetical -- there are no
categorical guidelines. The entries are like those in a dictionary -
they have no other coherence. This has minuses -- but it has major
pluses in my view -- you don't have to read my mind to find out where
I put an entry

> We have, for example, "17. a (an) - ad. one; any; each (voa)" which
doesn't even have any links.
> What's that doing for a user?

////////// There are some 500(?) or so of these VOA (dictionary)words
on the site. If you go to the "V" page of the site -- you can click on
"Voice Of America" and that explains the "Special English program"
which is basically simplified english. There are lots of uses for
those words. I think it is a very valuable resource for teachers of
non-english speakers. Perhaps I could eliminate all the individual
entries and just leave the master link -- but each entry takes up such
little space (which is virtually free) and they as a group may call
viewer's attention to the VOA program
Perhaps I should put a link to that VOA page on each of the 500
entries. I think I will do that in due course.

>And we have 4 items for AARP (one of which is at least a little
>different - "AARP national events").  Is the intent to have a
>separate item here for every source's set of links?

//////////// Ee have separate entries only where such entries will
help the user navigate the site. In my opinion, the AARP site is hard
to navigate. I tried to eliminate some problems by pointing to special
places on the site


>   * If I were a user using this site, I'm not sure it does anything
> for me other than change where / how I would search.  For example,
>why is it a better (more user friendly or however you want to think
>of it) experience for me to navigate to this site, click on A and
>then ... find (for example), "African History" then it would be for
>me to use my favorite search engine and type in those keywords and
>perform a search?

//////// Try it -- type "african history" into a google search window
and see how many entries you will get. You will get at least, thousands.

//////  I just tried it. I typed in "african history" -- in quotes to
limit the response. Here is the response line "Personalized Results 1
- 100 of about 2,010,000 English pages for "african history". Two
million leads???

//////// click on all the small type links on my front page   --
"introduction, "about", and "strategy" talk about most of the
questions you raise

//////////// The idea is that I will have pre-searched for you across
many good directory sites and will pick some really worthwhile
"african history" sites and articles


>This site provides no real grouping so it doesn't seem to add to the
>information hierarchy around content and a user is left guessing
>under what keywords they would find something here rather than
>guessing keywords to use in a search engine.  No different.

////////// In my opinion it is entirely different. In the case at hand
-- I put every entry into an alphabetical slot (as best as I could).
For "baseball" -- there is only one slot. If I used a system of
categories or hierarchies -- you would have to guess if I put Baseball
under "sports","games", "entertainment", "play","recreation" or
whatever. You would have to search each of these categories before you
could get started reading about baseball -- and the results of your
window searching would lead you to thousands of results that would not
be right on target

>   * Equivalently, I think Wikipedia positions itself (or some users
>do anyway) as an authority on topics of all kinds.  Two questions
>related to your effort:  If you take that idea as a given, it would
>seem like every Wikipedia page should be listed in this alphabetical
>list,right?  Is that your plan?  Conversely, why would/should a user
>start with this index site to find information about a topic in lieu
>of Wikipedia?

////////// Wikipedia is a valuable source of information and I use it
all the time -- it is essentially an alphabetical index --  but it
allows no original work. See the following on my site under
"W"(wikipedia) -- "Be warned that wikipedia is not the place to go for
new thinking.
The following is a direct quote from wikipedia. "Wikipedia does not
publish original research or original thought. This includes
unpublished facts, arguments, speculation,and ideas; and any
unpublished analysis or synthesis of published material that
serves to advance a position. This means that Wikipedia is not the
place to publish your own opinions or experiences. Citing sources and
avoiding original research are inextricably linked: to demonstrate
that you are not presenting original research, you must cite reliable
sources that provide information directly related to the topic of the
article, and that directly support the information as it is presented."

>Just wondering about your strategy on this point.

/////////////Although wikipedia has an alphabetical index (I link to
it and explain how to use it) -- it is very hard to find a specific
alphabetical list for a particular subject -- you can't simply scroll
down a list.

//////// Ultimately, I will link ONLY to those wikipedia entries which
in my opinion, have the best information on every topic my site covers

> * From a maintenance perspective - How do you envision it ever being
> "real world" to ever keep this kind of index current at all?  Things
> will constantly be added and removed from sites and there is no
> meaningful way to keep this site updated that I can tell.  What kind
> of strategy are you using for this?

/////////// It is surprising how easy it is to maintain - although I
am only a beginner and have yet to learn how to use "Dreamweaver"
thoroughly. (1) My "Dreamweaver" program has a built in system that
tells when a link has gone bad. (2) in the future, I hope most
independent websites that I link to will tell me when they change
their site -- I should be sending them lots of traffic -- so it will
be in their interest to keep me informed (I hope)

> Regards
> Lee Romero

////////// Thanks Lee. Your comments are worth thinking about. If we
write again to each other -- we should probably communicate off-list.
I suspect the length of my reply will annoy some others on the list

• Some of the topics seem out of alphabetical order - e.g. Why are the capitalized items at the front of the A's and not in the correct place? Why is it About.com appears after Abbreviations and then there is another Abbreviations glossary after it?
• Seeing multiple entries for the same term, even from different sources appears to clutter up the list (from my perspective). I think I'd prefer to see a single entry for the term and if you click on the term to be presented with the alternatives to visit at that time.
• I assume it is meant to be an internet index but there does seem to be a very high focus on US information (look at the U entries for US and compare with other countries). Lots of detail on low level US things - Lincoln Center Jazz Orchestra)
• I felt some obvious things seemed to be missing, especially around topics such as Knowledge Management, Export Compliance,
• The size of the text changes on each page depending on number of entries which I found off putting  

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From: TaxoCoP@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TaxoCoP@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Carbone
Sent: 08 May 2008 17:59
To: TaxoCoP@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [TaxoCoP] Compiling an alphabetical internet index / OOPS

The link is my last message was broken. It should be as shown below.

<< http://www.alphabeticalist.com >>

Please see //////// for my reply

--- In TaxoCoP@yahoogroups.com, "Gardner, Mike" <Micheal.Gardner@...>
wrote:
>
> Some quick comments from me having had a quick look at the site:
>
>Some of the topics seem out of alphabetical order - e.g. Why >are the
capitalized items at the front of the A's and not in the correct
> place?

///////////// In many alphabetical listings abbreviations such as IBM
or NASA are put at the top of the top of the "I" or "N" listings. I
assume that's done because  some people might not know that the "I" in
IBM stands for International and could therefore be listed at "In". I
acknowledge I actually listed these abbreviations erratically. It is
very hard to be consistent on this point -- and I do not really know
which method is best.

>Why is it About.com appears after Abbreviations and then there is
> another Abbreviations glossary after it?

//////// OOPS -- the second "abbreviations .. " is out of place. I
will fix it. Thanks for telling me. I know there are some mis-filings
-- they are hard to get 100% correct. I also assume you will find some
words spelled incorrectly.

> *Seeing multiple entries for the same term, even from different
> sources appears to clutter up the list (from my perspective). I
>think I'd prefer to see a single entry for the term and if you click
>on the term to be presented with the alternatives to visit at that >time.

///////// I think you may be right. I have been debating with myself
on how to handle that problem. It seems that you have to wade through
the multiple entries at some point -- whether it be at the original
list or at the link to all the multiple entries. Doing it the way I
did it saves a click but requires scanning over the multiples. Doing
it the other way does not show how many many entries are at that topic
- and knowing that is helpful. The more entries there are for any
topic probably means that topic is important. I am undecided. It could
be done both ways -- and the viewer could decide which list he wants
to look at -- the condensed list or the full list. That might be nice
-- but it a lot of work to put everything up both ways


> *
>  I assume it is meant to be an internet index but there does >seem
to be a very high focus on US information (look at the U entries >for
US and compare with other countries). Lots of detail on low level >US
things - Lincoln Center Jazz Orchestra)

////////////// I just put in what I find. But since I speak and read
English -- the information I find will probably always be from English
speaking countries. Please note that one of my main targets is a site
form Scotland (bubl link)

///////////// Because I use the NY Times as one of my main targets --
the list is quite heavy on things in and around New York. There is no
way that I could select out all the NY-centric entries. I am afraid
the viewer will simply have to skip over those things that are not
involved with things near his home.

> * I felt some obvious things seemed to be missing, especially
> around topics such as Knowledge Management, Export Compliance,

/////// I probably have 1/1000th of 1/1000th of all the possible
entries. Give me time to expand the list. However -- by using the
topics presently being used by the 13 target sites -- I probably have
most of the common topics. How else would I start? There will always
be a problem on covering all the various terms that could be used for
a given topic. I will probably never use "knowledge management" unless
it becomes a common term. My guess is that I will get to that type of
information through words that have to do with "information". The
"management" part will probably be ignored or assumed. Over the long
run -- I hope to solve the problem by establishing a valid controlled
vocabulary for the site



> *
>  The size of the text changes on each page depending on number > of
entries which I found off putting

///////// I agree - that is a annoying problem -- I am new to
"Dreamweaver" and am having a hard time keeping the type the same size
throughout. Over the long run -- I am sure I will figure it out by
myself -- or get an expert to help me. It can't be that hard to do.


///////// Thanks for your comments -- they will help me make the site
better.

//////// Marty Carbone
>
> Mike Gardner
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Hi, Miquel,

Data Harmony's M.A.I. is a rules-based categorization system for
applying taxonomy terms. It can work semi-automatically with the
editor option to review suggested categories, or fully
automatically. We gladly provide guided tours--at this time the site
does not have a self-service online tutorial.

Alice
--- In TaxoCoP@yahoogroups.com, "miquelcentelles" <mcentellesv@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Inxight had an interesting support service in its web
> (http://support.inxight.com), in which one could watch online
tutorials
> on solutions like Inxight Catgeorizer. Since Inxight has became a
part
> of Business Objects, the support web service has discontinued.
Does
> anybody know if this service will be online again?
>
> In addition, I am interested in tutorials and demostrations on
> solutions for semi-automatic categorization into an existing
controlled
> vocabulary (taxonomies, thesauri...), based on (search) rules or
> exemplary documents. Does anybody knows this kind of online
tutorials,
> similar to Inxight Categorizer?
>
> TIA
>
> Miquel Centelles
>

I'm currently compiling a ECM Business Strategy and would like to
include a Content Type and Document Type nomenclature. Where does one
start with this? I have a list of document types and now I have to
assign a content type to each one. How high level should I keep this?
We are also utilizing SharePoint but I don't want to emphasize that
too much because what ever strategy I come up with should be usable in
any ECM solution.

Let me explain my verbiage to ensure there is no confusion:
Content type will most likely be a 1 to many relationships. 1 Content
type to many document types.

A Content Type will have a workflow assign to it, retention rules,
document types, etc.

Thank you, very much, Alice. I had some practical information throw
http://www.mediasleuth.com, in which one can check the performance of
rules-based categorization. How can I follow a guided tour of Data
Harmony's M.A.I. solution?

TIA


--- In TaxoCoP@yahoogroups.com, "aredmondneal" <aredmondneal@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi, Miquel,
>
> Data Harmony's M.A.I. is a rules-based categorization system for
> applying taxonomy terms. It can work semi-automatically with the
> editor option to review suggested categories, or fully
> automatically. We gladly provide guided tours--at this time the
site
> does not have a self-service online tutorial.
>
> Alice
> --- In TaxoCoP@yahoogroups.com, "miquelcentelles" <mcentellesv@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Inxight had an interesting support service in its web
> > (http://support.inxight.com), in which one could watch online
> tutorials
> > on solutions like Inxight Catgeorizer. Since Inxight has became a
> part
> > of Business Objects, the support web service has discontinued.
> Does
> > anybody know if this service will be online again?
> >
> > In addition, I am interested in tutorials and demostrations on
> > solutions for semi-automatic categorization into an existing
> controlled
> > vocabulary (taxonomies, thesauri...), based on (search) rules or
> > exemplary documents. Does anybody knows this kind of online
> tutorials,
> > similar to Inxight Categorizer?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Miquel Centelles
> >
>

---

CC:
To: TaxoCoP@yahoogroups.com
From: bducharme@...
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 12:24:49 -0500
Subject: RE: [TaxoCoP] Document management and Taxonomy

Melissa wrote:

 

>I have a list of document types and now I have to
> assign a content type to each one. How high level should I keep this?

In my experience, one person's content type is another person's document type. Can you give us some examples of the content types and document types you're using or thinking of using?

 

thanks,

 

Bob DuCharme

www.snee.com/bobdc.blog

 

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Hi Mary,
Is there a reason why you are using "document type" as a category. Here is how I typically do it?

• Content Types (this is where your workflow is applied): 1099 Tax Return, Bid Plans
• Content Categories (this simply captures the category so that you can reuse the information): Tax, Insurance, Construction, etc...

If you wanted to, you could apply to separate category to capture whether your document is a tax return or another type of tax document, but this might be redundant in some areas. You would have to perform some analysis on whether or not the breakout serves any real purpose.

Let me know if this is helpful.

Thanks,
Gail Wood

-----Original Message-----
From: m mclaren
Sent: May 13, 2008 1:52 PM
To: taxocop@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [TaxoCoP] Document management and Taxonomy

In SharePoint they have what is called Content Types and you can apply certain rules and workflows, etc. I would envision some like this:
CONTENT TYPE: "TAX DOCUMENTS"  (Retain for 7 Years)
     DOCUMENT TYPE: TAX RETURN
     DOCUMENT TYPE: 1099
 
CONTENT TYPE: "CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS"
     DOCUMENT TYPE: BIDS
     DOCUMENT TYPE: PLANS
 
CONTENT TYPE: "INSURANCE DOCUMENT"
     DOCUMENT TYPE: ...
     DOCUMENT TYPE: ...
 
I have a list of hundreds of documents and want to do this right the first time. This is my first very large project.
 

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CC:
To: TaxoCoP@yahoogroups.com
From: bducharme@innodata-isogen.com
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 12:24:49 -0500
Subject: RE: [TaxoCoP] Document management and Taxonomy

Melissa wrote:

 

>I have a list of document types and now I have to
> assign a content type to each one. How high level should I keep this?

In my experience, one person's content type is another person's document type. Can you give us some examples of the content types and document types you're using or thinking of using?

 

thanks,

 

Bob DuCharme

www.snee.com/bobdc.blog

 

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Hi Melissa

Yes, I agree with Gail, document types can be applied to lots of
Content Categories (Function and its related Functional Activity).
The retention changes depending on the which functional activity a
document type is associated with,e.g.

Function: Taxation
Functional Activity: Planning
Document Types (that could be used):Schedule, Plan, Report, Study,
Statements, Bids, Contracts, Guarantees

The retention period may changed depending on:
- functional activities related to Taxation e.g. Funding, Royalties,
Income Tax, Company Tax, Rebates, etc.
- the project it is related to (may be a 10 yr project)
- Human Resource related a plan for special corporate incentives

The doc type above can be used for other functions with different
retention periods coming into play, e.g.

Function:Contracts Management
Functional Activity: Contracts Awarded
Document Types: as above

I am in Australia so maybe we our corporate/legislative requirements
are slightly different here.

jac white


--- In TaxoCoP@yahoogroups.com, Janice Keeler <keelerjs@...> wrote:
>
> You may find that your workflow needs to be applied to specific
document types, in which case perhaps they need to be "content
types". Workflow may not be the same for all tax or construction
documents, for example (at least in terms of retention).
>
>   You may also want to consider file naming conventions.  If all
bids have the word Bid in the file name or a title field, especially
in a consistent place in the title, then it gives you another
searchable access point and a more consistent display of search
results.
>
>   Regards,
>   Janice Keeler
>
> m mclaren <mmclaren1@...> wrote:
>           In SharePoint they have what is called Content Types and
you can apply certain rules and workflows, etc. I would envision some
like this:
> CONTENT TYPE: "TAX DOCUMENTS"  (Retain for 7 Years)
>      DOCUMENT TYPE: TAX RETURN
>      DOCUMENT TYPE: 1099
>
> CONTENT TYPE: "CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS"
>      DOCUMENT TYPE: BIDS
>      DOCUMENT TYPE: PLANS
>
> CONTENT TYPE: "INSURANCE DOCUMENT"
>      DOCUMENT TYPE: ...
>      DOCUMENT TYPE: ...
>
> I have a list of hundreds of documents and want to do this right
the first time. This is my first very large project.
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>   CC:
> To: TaxoCoP@yahoogroups.com
> From: bducharme@...
> Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 12:24:49 -0500
> Subject: RE: [TaxoCoP] Document management and Taxonomy
>
>   Melissa wrote:
>
>   >I have a list of document types and now I have to
> > assign a content type to each one. How high level should I keep
this?
>
>   In my experience, one person's content type is another person's
document type. Can you give us some examples of the content types and
document types you're using or thinking of using?
>
>   thanks,
>
>   Bob DuCharme
>   www.snee.com/bobdc.blog
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Miquel,

MediaSleuth.com uses Thesaurus Master to manage the taxonomy and
generate the NavTree view, and M.A.I. for content categorization and
to support the MAIQuery search function. www.NewsIndexer.com also
provides insight.
You can arrange a guided tour via the website.

Alice
--- In TaxoCoP@yahoogroups.com, "miquelcentelles" <mcentellesv@...>
wrote:
>
> Thank you, very much, Alice. I had some practical information throw
> http://www.mediasleuth.com, in which one can check the performance
of
> rules-based categorization. How can I follow a guided tour of Data
> Harmony's M.A.I. solution?
>
> TIA
>
>
> --- In TaxoCoP@yahoogroups.com, "aredmondneal" <aredmondneal@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, Miquel,
> >
> > Data Harmony's M.A.I. is a rules-based categorization system for
> > applying taxonomy terms. It can work semi-automatically with the
> > editor option to review suggested categories, or fully
> > automatically. We gladly provide guided tours--at this time the
> site
> > does not have a self-service online tutorial.
> >
> > Alice
> > --- In TaxoCoP@yahoogroups.com, "miquelcentelles" <mcentellesv@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Inxight had an interesting support service in its web
> > > (http://support.inxight.com), in which one could watch online
> > tutorials
> > > on solutions like Inxight Catgeorizer. Since Inxight has became
a
> > part
> > > of Business Objects, the support web service has discontinued.
> > Does
> > > anybody know if this service will be online again?
> > >
> > > In addition, I am interested in tutorials and demostrations on
> > > solutions for semi-automatic categorization into an existing
> > controlled
> > > vocabulary (taxonomies, thesauri...), based on (search) rules
or
> > > exemplary documents. Does anybody knows this kind of online
> > tutorials,
> > > similar to Inxight Categorizer?
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> > > Miquel Centelles
> > >
> >
>

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From: TaxoCoP@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TaxoCoP@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Melissa
Sent: 13 May 2008 16:44
To: TaxoCoP@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [TaxoCoP] Document management and Taxonomy

I'm currently compiling a ECM Business Strategy and would like to
include a Content Type and Document Type nomenclature. Where does one
start with this? I have a list of document types and now I have to
assign a content type to each one. How high level should I keep this?
We are also utilizing SharePoint but I don't want to emphasize that
too much because what ever strategy I come up with should be usable in
any ECM solution.

Let me explain my verbiage to ensure there is no confusion:
Content type will most likely be a 1 to many relationships. 1 Content
type to many document types.

A Content Type will have a workflow assign to it, retention rules,
document types, etc.

Hi all,

(Somewhat off topic, but this is my favourite group for CMS stuff;
I've also cross posted this on the Yahoo DITA users group)

My employer is currently considering purchasing a CMS to manage our
DITA XML assets. At this point they are looking within the department
for a solution for our 10,000 XML assets and 25,000 links, but I am
also pushing for something that could eventually be extended across
multiple departments. In an effort to sell them on the value of a CMS
I am marshaling a variety of resources, but I need more concrete
representations of just what a CMS is (I understand the issue, but the
executives don't necessarily).

So, I was hoping if people could send me screenshots of a CMS in
action (obviously avoid sending any confidential information). It
doesn't need to be from a DITA-aware (or XML pure play) CMS vendor if
it shows pretty common functionality (such as search, taxonomies,
etc.), but if anyone is managing XML with a CMS that would be ideal.

You can send the images (or links to them) to me directly at
isaac.q.dupont in the gmail.com domain. (Or just use the Yahoo groups
functionality to send me a direct message).

Many thanks,
Quinn

New linked Internet indexes to "hobbies" and "sports"

Here is our new linked index to hobbies -- just put up today.
http://www.howto-ville.com/hobbies.html

Compare it to wikipedia's list of hobbies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hobbies

Also check out our linked Internet index to "sports" which was derived
from our "hobbies" index
http://www.howto-ville.com/sports.html

Please comment on our definition of "sports" at the immediately above
link ("competitive, skillful endeavors with vigorous physical
activity").  We made up this definition to differentiate our sports
entries from entries you might find at "competition", "games",
"fitness activities", "hobbies" or other activities that might include
some, but not all elements of a "sport". For instance poker, chess and
checkers are not included as sports because they do not have vigorous
physical activity. "Jogging" is not included because it is not
competitive, while "walking" is included because it is often
competitive -- in fact, it is an Olympic sport. We tried to make the
definition inclusive of the basic concept of sports, but exclusive of
extraneous words -- in other words,"short but sweet".



Martin Carbone

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Hey all,

As I plod daily through the exercise of creating a taxonomy, a thought occurred
to me, "I
wonder if anyone else has ever done this who works in a similar situation as I
do".

hhhmmmmm.

I work for a non-profit/NGO (read: limited funds) that operates in 35 countries
world wide.
We are headquartered here in the USA, but a major majority of our material that
will be in
our DAM comes from 3rd world/developing nations (read: unstable internet
connections).

I would like to talk with others who work in similar settings and find out a bit
about how
you've handled your taxonomy when dealing with multiple languages and cultural
differences.

Thanks all! - Gina

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