San Jose also has trolleys running in Kelly Park where a restored village exists using some historic bulding displaced by new construction downtown. The...
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PetalumaTrolley@...
Apr 14, 2001 12:50 am
Dick, Bethlehem had yards on both sides of the bay. The one in the east bay was and is a steel manufacturing plant, now called Pinole Point Steel in Richmond....
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Peter D. Ehrlich
norcalrr@...
Apr 14, 2001 2:40 am
In a message dated 13 April 2001 @ 1134 PDT, "Rogertrolly" ... He is Fred Bennett. Indeed he is a master of his craft. He is working on acquiring materials...
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ROGERTROLLY@...
Apr 14, 2001 3:51 am
Thanks Peter [Fearless Muni Listowner] for coming up with Fred Bennett's name and adding points I missed [car number that is in Sacremento ]Its tough to get...
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rsshelley43
rsshelley43@...
Apr 14, 2001 4:41 am
Thanks. Of course, now the Hunters Point Shipyards are decommissioned. Dick ... From: PetalumaTrolley@... To: TrolleysCA@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday,...
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Val Golding
not_val@...
Apr 14, 2001 4:43 am
Tell me more about the replica Montreal "Golden Chariot" ... [snip] . . . Obfuscation specialist...
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CHARLES VERCELLI
CFV@...
Apr 14, 2001 5:48 am
Union Iron Works/Bethlehem Shipyards and Hunter's Point Naval Shipyard were two different facilities several miles apart. Ship repairs and dry-docking still...
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Peter D. Ehrlich
norcalrr@...
Apr 14, 2001 6:19 am
In a message dated 13 Apr 2001 @ 2143 PDT, "Val Golding" <not_val@...> ... Val, right now there's not much to tell. I hope to find out more at the next...
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n6nvr@...
Apr 14, 2001 6:37 am
Makes sense coming from a wooden boat builder. If you look at how a wooden boat is framed, sheathed and built it would be very similar to a wooden streetcar. ...
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Val Golding
not_val@...
Apr 14, 2001 11:10 am
I suppose I should have been more specific. I hadn't heard of these cars. Can you descrive them? Are there photos around? Thanks. ... [snip] ... . . . ...
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PetalumaTrolley@...
Apr 14, 2001 12:11 pm
Allen, I told you so! (See how I can dodge responsibility by just addig my consultants name on the email) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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Seth Bramson
sbramson@...
Apr 14, 2001 1:18 pm
Val: Are your referring to the Montreal sightseeing cars? There were, if I recall, two of them, and they were open air (although, perhaps in winter they could...
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Dennismk1@...
Apr 14, 2001 1:31 pm
Dear Trolley Folks: Do you remember the Silver Sightseer? It was Washingon PCC car 1512 which had the new D.C. Transit paint scheme that became standard on...
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Seth Bramson
sbramson@...
Apr 14, 2001 2:22 pm
What a beautiful car that was. The destruction of the D. C. Transit System rail lines by Chalk, Cohn and the other garbage (see how circumspect I am being!)...
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Cliff Scholes
cscholes@...
Apr 14, 2001 2:49 pm
Val: I have one B&W print and 2 color slides of the Montreal cars available. If interested, email offsite. Cliff Scholes ... From: "Val Golding"...
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rkampa2525@...
Apr 14, 2001 3:41 pm
Vancouver had similar "Golden Chariot" type sightseeing cars. They looked very much like the ones in Montreal. I believe that there were four such cars in...
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Jim Holland
pghpcc@...
Apr 14, 2001 5:54 pm
And Calgary has one running ont heir heritage line!! ... -- James B. Holland Pittsburgh Railways Company (PRCo), 1930 -- 1950 To e-mail privately,...
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rkampa2525@...
Apr 14, 2001 6:29 pm
Jim, the heritage line in Calgary no longer has the "Golden Chariot." I don't know where the car is now, but when I visited Heritage Park in August, 1999,...
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djwms3@...
Apr 14, 2001 6:44 pm
Cincinnati Street Railway also had one [or two] sight seeing cars also. DJ...
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Jim Holland
pghpcc@...
Apr 14, 2001 6:59 pm
Hi Richard! Thanks for the update! I was there in 1988 and took my own videos - lineside as well as a ride on board. It was interesting - people there were...
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Van Wilkins
wilkins@...
Apr 14, 2001 7:09 pm
Cincinnati had two similar cars. Van ... .com ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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Val Golding
not_val@...
Apr 14, 2001 9:08 pm
Thanks. I've ridden the Vancouver cars years ago, so now I know exactly what the Montreal cars are. Thanks. ... ...
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Cliff Scholes
cscholes@...
Apr 15, 2001 12:03 am
DJ: Cincinnati's two roofless sightseeing cars were named the Hiawatha and the Maketewah, rebuilt in 1939 by the Company from deck roof cars 1894 and 1891, ...
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ROGERTROLLY@...
Apr 15, 2001 3:15 am
For those not aware , there are two of these cars preserved in US Museums . One lives at Seashore Trolley Museum and the other is at Warehouse Point Trolley...
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Dennismk1@...
Apr 15, 2001 3:20 am
Dear Trolley Folks: So what did National City Lines do in Philly? It simply kept the PCC cars running but couldn't maintain the GMC diesel bus fleet. And it...
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ROGERTROLLY@...
Apr 15, 2001 3:36 am
Pix of Montreal Golden Chariot appears in Wm. d. Middletons book The Time of the Trolley on page 92 and one Kansas City had on page 93 and Vancouver's car...
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Dennismk1@...
Apr 15, 2001 3:49 am
Dear Trolley Folks: I'd like to see the Montreal sightseeing cars from Seashore or Warehouse Point come to SEPTA in Philadelphia for use on the Welcome Line,...
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Dennismk1@...
Apr 15, 2001 4:31 am
Dear Trolley Folks: The best pictures I liked from William D. Middleton's book, "The Time of the Trolley," were Philadelphia's 2700-series all-electric PCC...
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x779@...
Apr 15, 2001 4:37 am
NC)- Pineville's town council is exploring traction. The line would run along South Boulevard from downtown Charlotte out to Pineville, and depends on zoning...
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car1muni@...
Apr 15, 2001 5:10 am
one stayed home in montreal and ran sightseeing trips on it's rubber tires - no idea as to it's current status - ralph anastasio...
