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Thanks Glenn! Wow! What a short history, eh? If the line only went to
Durand, I wonder what they hauled. Bauer Built tires is about the only
industry there.

I was in Durand this afternoon & the depot is indeed still standing,
but I this that the paint is all that's holding it together!

Wayne





--- In WIshortlines@yahoogroups.com, "ggierzycki" <graz@...> wrote:
>
> The only info I have is that the line operated from Eau Claire to
> Durand. It began operations on April 1, 1980 and was out of business
> by January 16, 1981. As far as I know the the Chippewa River Ry. did
> not opertate any further south than Durand. By the way, I believe
the
> depot in Durand is still standing.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Glenn
>

The only info I have is that the line operated from Eau Claire to
Durand. It began operations on April 1, 1980 and was out of business
by January 16, 1981. As far as I know the the Chippewa River Ry. did
not opertate any further south than Durand. By the way, I believe the
depot in Durand is still standing.

Hope this helps.

Glenn

Hello! I'm a new guy here & am hoping that someone might have some
information about the Chippewa River RR. This railroad apparently
took over the operations on the Milwaukee Road line from Wabasha, MN
to Eau Claire WI. I spent most of my younger days in Eau Claire &
well remember the Milwaukee Road tracks. They went through part of
my old neighborhood. In my teens, a few of us guys would hop an open
boxcar & bum a ride to Durand where there was an all-girl drum
corps. We did what we did and thumbed rides back home. Remember when
you could safely hitch-hike? Well, over the years, I moved away and
during that time, the Milwaukee Road stopped bringing trainloads of
lampblack to Eau Claire's Uniroyal tire plant. This could easily
been their main source of revenue on this line. The lampblack came
by barge to Wabasha, MN where the Milwaukee Road picked it up. I
have a postcard which shows the last Chippewa River RR train at the
Durand depot on January 16, 1981. All that is visible is a few box
cars...no gondolas that once carried the lampblack containers. The
picture shows an ex Milwaukee Road Alco RSC-2 in its original
colors. If anyone has any information on this short-lived short
line, I would appreciate being made privy to it.

Thanks muchly.

Hi Lou!!!

Wayne

1908 was year or so late for funding new railroads -
one year after the 1907 recession and just a few years
before the war clouds began to gather.  R, JG

--- ggierzycki <graz@...> wrote:

> I was wondering if anyone has any information on a
> railroad that was
> incorporated in Wisconsin but never built. I have
> seen the
> incorporation papers for the "Southern Railway and
> Navigation Company"
> at the Wisconsin Historical Society in Madison. It
> was to be based in
> Janesville. I can not figure out where this company
> was supposed to
> operate. It's purpose was to deal in the timber and
> lumber business,
> own and operate docks and wharves, operate a private
> steam railroad.
> Does anybody know if this company was organized to
> operate in
> Wisconsin or in the southern US? The company's
> articles of
> organization were filed in March 1908.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Glenn
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Wisconsin's little railroads that could" Shortcut
> URL to this community:
> http://www.onelist.com/community/WIshortlines
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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I was wondering if anyone has any information on a railroad that was
incorporated in Wisconsin but never built. I have seen the
incorporation papers for the "Southern Railway and Navigation Company"
at the Wisconsin Historical Society in Madison. It was to be based in
Janesville. I can not figure out where this company was supposed to
operate. It's purpose was to deal in the timber and lumber business,
own and operate docks and wharves, operate a private steam railroad.
Does anybody know if this company was organized to operate in
Wisconsin or in the southern US? The company's articles of
organization were filed in March 1908.

Thanks.

Glenn

I rode that line from downtown Algoma to Casco in 1977. It was called the Algoma
Railroad and used a Baldwin diesel.

=Lou=

~~~~~~~~~~ **-=\/=-** ~~~~~~~~~~

The opposite of bravery is not cowardice, but conformity.       Robert Anthony



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Hello Gents (and ladies?):

I am searching for an apparently very rare color photo/slide of
Ahnapee & Western 2-8-0 #351. This steamer ran from 1950 until 1953 on
the line from Sturgeon Bay in Door County through Algoma to a
connection with the GB&W Kewaunee Line. The loco was ex-GB&W 351.

The tender is supposed to have been painted red with yellow trim and
white lettering. I have to see that to believe it! Do you have a color
photo of this shortline Consolidation, or do you remember seeing it in
person? If so I would love to hear from you. I am authoring an "Images
of Rail" book that will feature the A&W, and proof of this paint
scheme would be very nice to have for inclusion in the text.

Thanks,
Andy Laurent

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provides badly-needed transportation in rural regions.

--- In
KenoshaStreetcars@yahoogro
ups.com, "mrcooby"
<x779@...> wrote:

The Wisconsin DOT will
hold a public meeting on
Wednesday evening in the
Kenosha Municipal
Building (625 52nd
Street) between 6:30 and
8:30 to update progress
on the KRM Line.

Today's local newspaper
printed a quote from
Kenosha Transit Director
Len Brandrup, who
explained that the KRM
Line would be of great
benefit to the Kenosha
streetcar system and to
HarborPark.

--- End forwarded
message ---

The Wisconsin DOT will
hold a public meeting on
Wednesday evening in the
Kenosha Municipal
Building (625 52nd
Street) between 6:30 and
8:30 to update progress
on the KRM Line.

Today's local newspaper
printed a quote from
Kenosha Transit Director
Len Brandrup, who
explained that the KRM
Line would be of great
benefit to the Kenosha
streetcar system and to
HarborPark.

The following is a little bit of info that I have in my files on the
Nicolet Badger Northern.

The first NBN ran in late fall 1983. By late 1985, the entire line
had been upgraded to Class 2 standards. The line had 72 and 90 lb.
rail. The line shut down on December 31, 1994.

The last C&NW train ran on June 29, 1979.

Originally it was hoped to preserve the entire line from Gillett, WI
to Scott Lake, MI. But Oconto County did not join the effort. Forest
County, Tipler and Long Lake joined to form the Forest Transit
Commission to preserve the tracks. A study by the Gennessee and
Wyoming Railroad concluded that 38 miles of line between Wabeno and
Tipler could be operated at a profit.

The commission found an operator named Joseph Satterswaithe to run
the railroad under the auspices of Transportation Cybernetics Inc.
He wa terminated in 1985 because of concerns about the rehabiliation
of the tracks. The Transit commission operated the line until May 1,
1989 when Great Lakes Central Ltd. took over operations. They
operated the line until the end.

Tim Tennant was president of GLCL, Ron Kwick was engineer and Rick
Enders was conductor/brakeman at the end.

The business failed because carloadings fell to 300 cars in the last
year. This was due to restrictions by the US Forest Service on
timber sales and truck competition. A $100 million strand board
palnt was supposed to be built in Tipler, but was instead built in
Kentucky. Also local paper mills did not commit to ship by rail.

Hope this is what you were lokking for.

Glenn

Just a short note to say that I won't be able to dig out that info on
the Nicolet Badger Northern. Too many things going on.

Glenn

You and me both.  Unfortunately there is not much info out there.  The road
ran from Tipler in the north to Wabeno in the south.  Had 2 locomotives, an
ex MT&W NW2#62 and an old Whitcomb switcher#103.  It also leased a Baldwin
RS12 for excursion service.  They had a caboose that sat at the Northside of
the Laona yard.  Don't know the former owner.  Plets Express made a video
about the road in the 90s, but they are out of stock, and will not rerelease
it until it is converted to DVD.


>From: "#@!%*#@#!" <kponkpgon@...>
>Reply-To: WIshortlines@yahoogroups.com
>To: WIshortlines@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [WIshortlines] NBNRR
>Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 03:26:40 -0000
>
>I'm still looking for info on the late
>nicolet Badger Northern Railroad anyone out able to help??
>
>
>
>

I'll try to dig out some info this weekend.

Glenn

I'm still looking for info on the late
nicolet Badger Northern Railroad anyone out able to help??

i'm looking for any and all info for the nicolet badger northern
railroad and about the members of the transit commision and those who
were with the short line operator that handled the operations and
where they are today

What kind of information are you looking for?

Glenn

i forgot to mention in my first post that if anyone has info to
contact me at my email address

anyone out there help me on ALL info of the now defunct Nicolet Badger
Northern RR and if you do have anything send it to my email address

It's a private electric narrow-gauge shortline built and operated by Bill Bauer
in Bristol WI (Kenosha County). The rails came from a 1936 WPA project to build
Alford Park in Kenosha. Rolling stock includes a steeplecab locomotive and a
small Birney passenger car.

=Lou=

~~~~~~~~~~ **-=\/=-** ~~~~~~~~~~

The opposite of bravery is not cowardice, but conformity.       Robert Anthony

Any info on the Bristol and lake George Electric Railway? Live in SE
WI and never heard of this.

Ron

--- In WIshortlines@yahoogroups.com, " " <x779@...> wrote:
>
> I can add two Wisconsin pushcar narrow-gauge lines, if anyone's
interested.
> In Port Washington, there was an extensive pushcar network at the
chair company, and the map for that is in "TM - The Milwaukee
Electric Railway and Light Company" by Joseph Canfield, with a photo.
This system had the distinction of having diamonds with the standard-
gauge TM.
>
> And in Kenosha there was a small pushcar network on Simmons Island
to serve the Water Pumping Station (now the Historical Museum) with
coal. In 1956 the station converted to oil but the tracks remained
into the 1960s. One pushcar survives.
>
> There was a small temporary pushcar system used in the 1930s at the
WPA construction of Alford Park north of Kenosha, which used 12-pound
rail. When the system was dismantled, all the track went to Bristol
where the Bristol & Lake George Electric Railway was constructed and
still runs today.
>
> =Lou=
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~ **-=\/=-** ~~~~~~~~~~
>
> The opposite of bravery is not cowardice, but conformity.      
Robert Anthony
>

I can add two Wisconsin pushcar narrow-gauge lines, if anyone's interested.
In Port Washington, there was an extensive pushcar network at the chair company,
and the map for that is in "TM - The Milwaukee Electric Railway and Light
Company" by Joseph Canfield, with a photo. This system had the distinction of
having diamonds with the standard-gauge TM.

And in Kenosha there was a small pushcar network on Simmons Island to serve the
Water Pumping Station (now the Historical Museum) with coal. In 1956 the station
converted to oil but the tracks remained into the 1960s. One pushcar survives.

There was a small temporary pushcar system used in the 1930s at the WPA
construction of Alford Park north of Kenosha, which used 12-pound rail. When the
system was dismantled, all the track went to Bristol where the Bristol & Lake
George Electric Railway was constructed and still runs today.

=Lou=

~~~~~~~~~~ **-=\/=-** ~~~~~~~~~~

The opposite of bravery is not cowardice, but conformity.       Robert Anthony

>
> American Refractories Company railroad

Refractories are used in the steel industry, and the only large steel
mill I know of in Wi was the Bayview plant at Milwaukee.  Perhaps
some attachment to that??


> Ashland Iron Company railroad

   I know that there was an iron works in Ashland, and I have seen
maps showing an interplant rail line.  I have never done any research
on them however

> Drake and Stratton Company railroad

This company was a railroad construction contractor and was probably
involved in constructing one or more lines for a class 1 in the state.

> Horton's Woods railroad

  A 2' tourist railroad in Rock County

> McDougall & Yale Company railroad

   Appers to have been a contractor as well

> Michigan Iron Land and Lumber Company railroad

  I have never heard of this logging RR in Wis anyways, and I think it
was a mistake on their part to put it under Wis.

> Milwaukee Gas Light Company railroad

Probably interplant

> Winston Brothers Company railroad

Also a construction contractor, see Drake & Stratton above.

>
> I am assuming that these are inter-company lines at a factory or
> mill site. Any information is appreciated.
>

   A mistake on that NGRR site is including Holmes & Son as a narrow
gauge in Wis.  They had a narrow gauge in Mich prior to operating a
STANDARD gauge logging railroad in Wis.  Two distinct operations.

I would like to add

Ringle Brick

Tim Sasse

I was surfing the net when I came across a site devoted to narrow
gauge railroads. The site is www.ngrrlines.com. It listed quite a
few narrow gauge railroads in Wisconsin, including some I have never
heard of.

Does anybody have any info on:

American Refractories Company railroad
Ashland Iron Company railroad
Drake and Stratton Company railroad
Horton's Woods railroad
McDougall & Yale Company railroad
Michigan Iron Land and Lumber Company railroad
Milwaukee Gas Light Company railroad
Winston Brothers Company railroad

I am assuming that these are inter-company lines at a factory or
mill site. Any information is appreciated.

Thanks.

Glenn

I've got some conflicting data on the Chicago and Lake Superior
Railroad. I've got an incorporation date of March 1897, but
construction in 1895. The line was 3.24 miles long between Cambridge,
and London on the C&NW Milwaukee-Madison line. It ceased operations in
1916. The line was originally to build from the Chicago area through
Elkhorn, Fort Atkinson and Cambridge, all in Wisconsin, on it's way to
some point on Lake Superior.

Any other info is welcome. Does anyone have a picture of the
locomotive, or of the depot in Cambridge?

Glenn

You're right, Floyd. The Genesee and Wyoming acquired all the assets
of the Rail Management group on June 1, 2005, including the Tomahawk
Railway. It's intersting that the Tomahawk Ry. does not show up
anywhere in the G&W website. I wonder if it will be disposed of as
being too small for G&W.

Glenn

Group:
If I remember correctly, I was told last summer, MT&W has become
pretty much yard limits, switch with the old MILW to the bridge. They
still go out to mill, but that may be trackage rights. Also it MAY be
that Genesse & Wyoming purchased them recently.
Yes, there was a Chicago& Lake Superior. Ran an old 4-4-0?
Repectfully, FWS

I never heard of the C&LS.  I don't see any reference to it on any
historical maps.  Sounds like they had big ambitions.  I have heard that the
Tomahawk Railroad only has 7 miles left, and almost all of it is in
Tomahawk, but I cannot confirm or deny that.


>From: "ggierzycki" <graz@...>
>Reply-To: WIshortlines@yahoogroups.com
>To: WIshortlines@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [WIshortlines] C&LS, MT&W
>Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 00:50:54 -0000
>
>This post is essentially an attempt to take back this site from the
>garbage in the last several messages.
>
>I was wondering if any of you had any info on the Chicago and Lake
>Superior Railroad. It was about 3 miles long and ran betweeen
>Cambridge and London in Dane County in the early 1900's. It was one of
>the shortest railroads to run in the state and was never acquired by
>any large railroad. Any info is appreciated.
>
>My other question is about the Marinette, Tomahawk and Western. I may
>have asked this question before, I can't remember. I am interested in
>putting together an abandonment list for this railroad and need info
>from the 1950's onward. And, where exactly does the Tomahawk Ry. run
>right now. It doesn't have much track left. Again any help is
>appreciated.
>
>Glenn
>
>
>
>

This post is essentially an attempt to take back this site from the
garbage in the last several messages.

I was wondering if any of you had any info on the Chicago and Lake
Superior Railroad. It was about 3 miles long and ran betweeen
Cambridge and London in Dane County in the early 1900's. It was one of
the shortest railroads to run in the state and was never acquired by
any large railroad. Any info is appreciated.

My other question is about the Marinette, Tomahawk and Western. I may
have asked this question before, I can't remember. I am interested in
putting together an abandonment list for this railroad and need info
from the 1950's onward. And, where exactly does the Tomahawk Ry. run
right now. It doesn't have much track left. Again any help is
appreciated.

Glenn