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Dear member of the CEBS XBRL Network,

We would like to invite you to the Thursday's conference call of the
COREP/FINREP XBRL Networks. This conference call tries to update members
on the status of the works in the XBRL taxonomies and related topics.

Contact details are: PHONE NUMBER: +34 91 495 18 99 Conference ID:
563483*

Time: 10:30 CEST (Paris), 09:30 London, 11:30 Athens, 08:30 UTC.
Summer Time in Europe. Local European Time unchanged. One hour less in
UTC (08:30).

Agenda:

1.- FINREP and IFRS issues. Meeting on IASCF London, April 16 (see
below).

2. Preparing materials for the plenary session on 20-23 April.
.- Potential atendance.
.- Draft on dimensions, from Katrin Schmehl
.- Best Practices proposal from LU (attached).
.- Work plan and logistics at
http://www.eurofiling.info/20090420/CoreTeamMeetingMadrid.html

3.- Proposal: Meeting in Paris, June 22, pror to the XBRL International
Conference.


4. CEBS consultation paper for the revised FINREP.
http://www.c-ebs.org/News--Communications/Latest-news/CEBS-publishes-its
-consultation-paper-on-amendment.aspx
http://www.c-ebs.org/Publications/Consultation-Papers/CP01-CP10/CP06-Rev
ised2.aspx


5. EC consultation processes. Comments.

6. Formulas, Versioning, and Best Practices at XBRL International level

7. AOB.

Best regards,

Ignacio Boixo
Committee of European Banking Supervisors
XBRL Network Coordination
www.corep.info www.finrep.info boixo@...
Phone +34 913386452 Cellular/mobile +34 618526434

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Dear Marco, dear Ignacio

Here are some further details for our proposed session on 16th April in
the IASCF premises. We kindly invite you to provide comments and remarks
by Thursday noon so that it can be forwarded to relevant people. We
suggest that the participation to this session will be on invitation
only.

1.       Objectives of the session: The objectives of the session are
*         To share the latest information about respective bodies
*         To align the CEBS reporting framework (FINREP) with IFRS and
with IFRS Taxonomy
*         To prepare the CEBS XBRL technical session in Madrid on 22-24
April

2.       Suggested agenda
*         Catchup on IASB work plan
           i.      IASB work plan
           ii.      Impact for financial institutions (i.e. new IFRS 7)

*         Catchup on latest FINREP templates
           i.      Content
           ii.      Agenda
*         Catchup on latest IFRS Taxonomy
           i.      Architecture (MP)
           ii.      Content (HO)
           iii.      Future developments (architecture, tools, other
materials)
*         Mapping between FINREP and IFRS taxonomies


3.       Who should attend?
*         Representatives of IASB and/or technical staff
*         Representatives of IASCF XBRL Activities
*         Representatives of CEBS FINREP
*         Representatives of CEBS FINREP XBRL Network

Potentially:
*         Representatives of financial institutions
*         Representatives of vendors and consultants
*         Representatives of XBRL Europe

4.       Date and location
The CEBS - IASCF session will be held on Thursday 16th April 2009 from
10am to 4:00pm in the IASB/IASCF premises on 30 Cannon Street in the
Victoria room (ground floor). Due to meeting room constraint, the number
of participants will have to be limited to 14. From ISAC side, 4 seats
are needed.




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ATTENDEES

Ignacio Boixo (Bank of Spain)
Víctor Morilla (Bank of Spain)
Gracia Muñoz (Bank of Spain)
Katrin Schmehl (Bundesbank)
Mark Creemers (NBB)
Derek De Brandt (XBRL Europe)
Bartosz Ochocki (XBRL Europe)
Emile Bartole (Central Bank of Luxembourg)
Javi Mora (XBRL Spain)

Apologies: Colm O hAonghusa

AGENDA


1. Preparing materials for the plenary session on 20-24 April.

.- Initial scheduling about opening time-day, closing time-day and topic
distribution of topics.

3 days meeting, day 1 and day 2 for technical issues, day 3 for business issues.
The meeting will start on 20th Monday at midday and will finish on 23rd Thursday
also at midday.

The two first days (20 noon to 22-noon) will be used for Taxonomy Architecture
and related topics. The last day (22 noon to 23 noon) a joint meeting with
FINREP experts will be held

.- Potential attendance. Open for people wishing to attend

.- Draft on dimensions, from Katrin Schmehl
The document CEBS 2009 38 Annex 1 colored.xls, sent by Katrin to the
COREP/FINREP Yahoo! Group, was created in the Warsaw meeting, and it is a
preparative delivery for the definition of an XBRL format for the new FINREP
framework

.- Best Practices proposal from LU
Emile has explained two best practices points: Modular/Monolithic and
Consolidation status. The others points will be discussed on the next
COREP/FINREP conference call.

.- Work plan and logistics
No space problems. As logistic issue, the 23 morning a different room will be
used, due to an important event (200 pax, full day) will be held in the theater,
and adjacent main room used during 20-22. For such a reason, and avoid conflicts
with the meeting on 23, the selected dates are from 20 to 23.


2. FINREP and IFRS issues

There is scheduled a meeting at IASCF London on 16th April about FINREP and
IFRS.



3. CEBS consultation paper for the revised FINREP.

http://www.c-ebs.org/News--Communications/Latest-news/CEBS-publishes-its-consult\
ation-paper-on-amendment.aspx

http://www.c-ebs.org/Publications/Consultation-Papers/CP01-CP10/CP06-Revised2.as\
px



4. EC consultation processes. Comments.

The consultation paper will be discussed in the next XBRL Europe conference
call. All the members of the group can express their opinions about the
document.



5. Go live with Eurofiling distribution list and new website domain name.

The website www.eurofiling.info is working and currently redirected to the
www.corep.info website. In the next days, the Eurofiling website will be the
main website. The COREP and FINREP domain names will still operating. During the
coming days, all the COREP/FINREP Yahoo! Group members will receive an
invitation to join the new distribution list, the Eurofiling Google Group
eurofiling@googlegroups.com (see below)


6. Formulas, Versioning, and Best Practices at XBRL International level.
No updates.



7. AOB.
No more business.

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eurofiling@googlegroups.com (welcome message)

Public discussion forum of the XBRL Network of the Committee of European Banking
Supervisors. Our mission is to deliver the XBRL taxonomies for COmmon solvency
ratio REPorting framework -COREP- and for FINancial REPorting (credit
institutions that use IAS/IFRS) framework -FINREP-

Please note that the collaborative framework will be improved, unifying the
legacy distinction at XBRL Network level between COREP and FINREP collaborative
frameworks and domain names. For this purpose, it has been suggested to use the
Internet domain name of Eurofiling as open collaborative website
(www.eurofiling.info), as stated in the Consultation paper on amendments to the
Guidelines on Financial Reporting (FINREP) dated 10 March 2009.


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Dear all,
I've just talked with Marco Burroni that informed me about the meaning of my
involvement in the "distribution of the work" document (generation of the matrix
schema as reverse engineering of the XBRL taxonomy).

I would like to confirm you that we will generate the new matrix schema once the
new FINREP taxonomy will be ready (if deemed useful we will generate the matrix
schema for the draft taxonomy, too).

Regards,
Michele



> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: XBRL-COREP@yahoogroups.com [mailto:XBRL-COREP@yahoogroups.com] Per
> conto di Katrin.Schmehl@...
> Inviato: giovedì 19 marzo 2009 8.46
> A: XBRL-FINREP@yahoogroups.com; XBRL-COREP@yahoogroups.com;
> Javier.Mora@...; derek.debrandt@...; bartosz.ochocki@br-
> ag.eu; michal.piechocki@...; michal.skopowski@...;
> Krzysztof.Burlaga@...; BURRONI MARCO; LUIS.DERECHO@...; Jean-
> Michel.Delaval@...; sge.christina.pinto@...;
> Bernard.DARRIUS@...; Mark.Creemers@...;
> PVoulgaris@...; FETTUCCIARI FAUSTO; ci.emile.bartole@...
> Oggetto: [XBRL-COREP] Results of the F2F meeting in Warsaw 16th /17th of
> March
>
>
>
> Dear member of the CEBS XBRL Network or FINREP Network,
>
> please find attached the documents prepared in the F2F meeting in Warsaw
> as
> well as the
> document with the distribution of the work to be done in the next six
> weeks.
>
>    Updated FINREP templates with the definition of primaries and
> dimensions
>    with colors:
>
>    (See attached file: CEBS 2009 38 Annex 1 colored.xls)
>
>
>    Agenda and slides of the F2F meeting
>
>    (See attached file: Agenda F2F meeting in Warsaw detailed.ppt)
>
>    Working plan and distribution of the work
>
>    (See attached file: Distribution of the work.doc)
>
>    Contribution of Emile for updates on Best Practices to be discussed in
>    the following conference calls
>
> (See attached file: LU Best practice propositions.doc)
>
>
> I like to thank all the participants of the F2F meeting for their
> contributions to the meeting and
> also for volunteering to support the work in the next weeks.
>
> Best regards,
> Katrin
>
>
>
>
>  Katrin Schmehl
>  Deutsche Bundesbank
>  IT 473
>
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>  14
>  60431 Frankfurt am
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>
>
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>
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>
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Dear member of the CEBS XBRL Network,

according to the last conference call I added comments refering to the
tables where the different breakdowns are used.
Please find also attached an updated version of the FINREP templates where
the dimensions
and primaries are marked with colors.
(See attached file: CEBS 2009 38 Annex 1 colored.zip)(See attached file:
Revised FINREP templates - Dimensions.zip)

Best regards,
Katrin



  Katrin Schmehl
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  IT 473

  Wilhelm-Epstein-Str.
  14
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Dear member of the CEBS XBRL Network,

We would like to invite you to the Thursday's conference call of the
COREP/FINREP XBRL Networks. This conference call tries to update members
on the status of the works in the XBRL taxonomies and related topics.

Contact details are: PHONE NUMBER: +34 91 495 18 99 Conference ID:
563483*

Time: 10:30 CEST (Paris), 09:30 London, 11:30 Athens, 09:30 UTC.

Agenda:

1. Preparing materials for the plenary session on 20-24 April.
.- Initial scheduling about opening time-day, closing time-day and topic
distribution of topics.
.- Potential atendance.
.- Draft on dimensions, from Katrin Schmehl
.- Best Practices proposal from LU
.- Work plan and logistics

2. FINREP and IFRS issues


3. CEBS consultation paper for the revised FINREP.
http://www.c-ebs.org/News--Communications/Latest-news/CEBS-publishes-its
-consultation-paper-on-amendment.aspx
http://www.c-ebs.org/Publications/Consultation-Papers/CP01-CP10/CP06-Rev
ised2.aspx


4. EC consultation processes. Comments.

5. Go live with Eurofiling distribution list and new website domain
name.

6. Formulas, Versioning, and Best Practices at XBRL International level

7. AOB.

Best regards,

Ignacio Boixo
Committee of European Banking Supervisors
XBRL Network Coordination
www.corep.info www.finrep.info boixo@...
Phone +34 913386452 Cellular/mobile +34 618526434

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Dear member of the CEBS XBRL Network,

We would like to invite you to the Thursday's conference call of the
COREP/FINREP XBRL Networks. This conference call tries to update members
on the status of the works in the XBRL taxonomies and related topics.

Contact details are: PHONE NUMBER: +34 91 495 18 99 Conference ID:
563483*

Time: 10:30 CEST (Paris), 09:30 London, 11:30 Athens, 09:30 UTC.

Agenda:

1. Preparing materials for the plenary session on 20-24 April.
.- Initial scheduling about opening time-day, closing time-day and topic
distribution of topics.
.- Potential atendance.
.- Draft on dimensions, from Katrin Schmehl
.- Best Practices proposal from LU
.- Work plan and logistics

2. FINREP and IFRS issues


3. CEBS consultation paper for the revised FINREP.
http://www.c-ebs.org/News--Communications/Latest-news/CEBS-publishes-its
-consultation-paper-on-amendment.aspx
http://www.c-ebs.org/Publications/Consultation-Papers/CP01-CP10/CP06-Rev
ised2.aspx


4. EC consultation processes. Comments.

5. Go live with Eurofiling distribution list and new website domain
name.

6. Formulas, Versioning, and Best Practices at XBRL International level

7. AOB.

Best regards,

Ignacio Boixo
Committee of European Banking Supervisors
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Phone +34 913386452 Cellular/mobile +34 618526434

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Dear member of the CEBS XBRL Network,

please find attached an Excel file with the dimensions listed for the
schema matrixes.
All the possible dimensions and their combinations are listed so they can
be reused
to define the schema matrixes for each FINREP template.

(See attached file: Revised FINREP templates - Dimensions.zip)

Best regards,
Katrin



  Katrin Schmehl
  Deutsche Bundesbank
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Attendees:
Ignacio Boixo (Bank of Spain)
Maciej Piechocki (IASCF)
Olivier Servais (IASCF)
Bartosz Ochocki (XBRL Europe)
Katrin Schmehl (Bundesbank)
Kathrin Jansen (Bundesbank)
Emile Bartole (CSSF Luxemburg)
Panagiotis Voulgaris (Bank of Greece)
Bernard Darrius (Bank of France)
Giancarlo Pellizzari (Dexia)

Apologies:
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1. Debriefing of the F2F Core Team meeting: Warsaw (Poland) March 16th
09:00 - 17th 13:00, 2009,  chaired by Katrin Schmehl. Preparing
materials for the plenary session on 20 April.

2. CEBS consultation paper for the revised FINREP.
http://www.c-ebs.org/News--Communications/Latest-news/CEBS-publishes-its
-consultation-paper-on-amendment.aspx
http://www.c-ebs.org/Publications/Consultation-Papers/CP01-CP10/CP06-Rev
ised2.aspx

Katrin:
Monday and the first hour of Tuesday were filled with the definition of
primaries and dimensions for each FINREP template.
After that a working plan for the next six weeks where defined to get
all deliveries for the 20th of April where it is planned to start the
definition of the taxonomy design and the creation of a first draft of
the taxonomy.

Olivier:
- next F2F meeting in London 16th of April
- hosted by IASCF to reinforce of the commitments and work close with the
FINREP team

Ignacio:
- FINREP should identify the IFRS references

Katrin:
- FINREP network has already prepared most of the references to IFRS

Olivier:
- extensions of the IFRS are going to be part of the work of the IASCF team

Bartosz:
- try to draft the first matching between IFRS and FINREP as well as
definition of XBRL characteristics before
the meeting in London
- in the meeting the FINREP business experts will have a review about this
draft
and find a common view on the matches between IFRS elements and FINREP
elements

Olivier:
-  it is planned to release 2009 of IFRS on 2nd of April, no architectural
changes until 2010
- mid of next week joined meeting with IASB and Accord (European
organisation of insurance
companies) who plans to move to XBRL because CEOPS plans to move to XBRL
for Solvency II

Ignacio:
XBRL conference in Paris:
- generic presentations of Ignacio and Katrin, Derek
- specific presentation of Bernard, Victor, Giancarlo (European
presentations)
- all other presentations are more or less international
- it is needed to present more European topics.
A call for presentations is being done by Ignacio.


3. EC consultation processes.

Ignacio:
-  initial draft for an harmonised reporting with a standardised format
will be prepared and send for review to the group
- it is open how to contribute to the EC, via CEBS or XBRL Europe; maybe
CEBS because it's more connected with the commission


4. Formulas, Versioning, and Best Practices at XBRL International level

Maciej:
- XBRL team has prepared a versioning report for the IFRS 2009 according to
the XBRL Versioning PWD and it's now under consultation
by the versioning working group

Katrin:
- no software for creating versioning reports currently exists
- the task of creating reports for the test cases of the conformance suite
is still open

Ignacio:
- several documents are under discussion
- the IPP document, actually PWD, will be published at the end of month as
recommendation
- Allyson Ugarte is preparing a new document about the review of taxonomies
and the assurance of the quality of taxonomies
- open question: Who is going to approve a taxonomy? Currently only XBRL
International or a jurisdiction can approve taxonomies.
- peer to peer review to approve a taxonomy without the involvement of this
organisation is also done

Katrin:
- Best Practices have been discussed in the F2F meeting according to
document Emile has prepared. The topics are valuable and should be
discussed in the next conference calls

5. AOB

- discussion about postponing the meeting in April but due to several
national holidays in May it is almost impossible
to find another week so it is decided to stick to the planned week of the
20th of April

Best regards,
Katrin



  Katrin Schmehl
  Deutsche Bundesbank
  IT 473

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Dear member of the CEBS XBRL Network or FINREP Network,

please find attached the documents prepared in the F2F meeting in Warsaw as
well as the
document with the distribution of the work to be done in the next six
weeks.

    Updated FINREP templates with the definition of primaries and dimensions
    with colors:

    (See attached file: CEBS 2009 38 Annex 1 colored.xls)


    Agenda and slides of the F2F meeting

    (See attached file: Agenda F2F meeting in Warsaw detailed.ppt)

    Working plan and distribution of the work

    (See attached file: Distribution of the work.doc)

    Contribution of Emile for updates on Best Practices to be discussed in
    the following conference calls

(See attached file: LU Best practice propositions.doc)


I like to thank all the participants of the F2F meeting for their
contributions to the meeting and
also for volunteering to support the work in the next weeks.

Best regards,
Katrin




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Dear member of the CEBS XBRL Network,

We would like to invite you to the Thursday's conference call of the
COREP/FINREP XBRL Networks. This conference call tries to update members
on the status of the works in the XBRL taxonomies and related topics.

Contact details are: PHONE NUMBER: +34 91 495 18 99 Conference ID:
563483*

Time: 10:30 CEST (Paris), 09:30 London, 11:30 Athens, 09:30 UTC.

Agenda:

1. Debriefing of the F2F Core Team meeting: Warsaw (Poland) March 16th
09:00 - 17th 13:00, 2009,  chaired by Katrin Schmehl. Preparing
materials for the plenary session on 20 April.

2. CEBS consultation paper for the revised FINREP.
http://www.c-ebs.org/News--Communications/Latest-news/CEBS-publishes-its
-consultation-paper-on-amendment.aspx
http://www.c-ebs.org/Publications/Consultation-Papers/CP01-CP10/CP06-Rev
ised2.aspx


3. EC consultation processes.

4. Formulas, Versioning, and Best Practices at XBRL International level

5. AOB.

Best regards,

Ignacio Boixo
Committee of European Banking Supervisors
XBRL Network Coordination
www.corep.info www.finrep.info boixo@...
Phone +34 913386452 Cellular/mobile +34 618526434

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Dear all,

Lowly, I would like to suggest  a  paper, created by CEBS, XBRL network, or
other interested parties. together or alone, to show the importance of XBRL
in a common reporting format. XBRL can´t be, only a group of friends with
important ideas in mind. Must be, also,  a group of influence, everyday
developing subjects like formulas, best pratices and so on, that is to say,
working strong for the development of  XBRL in a global comunity.

In spite of recognizing a great potential in XBRL, one of the main comments
that I have been hearing is the lack of maturity of the technology, but if
European Commission imposes.......what can we do.

So, all opportunities are good to make consistent "noise".

Best regards

António José G. D. Gonçalves


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called
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  -global standards (through IMF, FSF, Basel, G20),
  -binding EU standards, practices and interpretations,
  -common reporting formats,
  -binding technical standards,
  -binding information sharing mechanism, (including transfer of information).
  -enhancement of information flow, symmetrical distribution of information and
  tools, also in host country,
  -collection and availability of all relevant information pertaining to
  cross-border activities,
  -international credit register,
  -intensification of financial regulatory dialogue with third countries.
  More details are available here:
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  The Commission has announced in its Communication of 4 March 2009 "Driving
  European Recovery" that it intends to come forward by the end of May 2009 with
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  architecture followed by specific legislative measures in autumn 2009 . Before
  doing so, it wishes to take into account the views of all interested parties.
The
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  DG Internal Market & Services
  European Commission
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-global standards (through IMF, FSF, Basel, G20),
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The Commission has announced in its Communication of 4 March 2009 "Driving European Recovery" that it intends to come forward by the end of May 2009 with a Communication setting out its proposals on the future of the EU supervisory architecture followed by specific legislative measures in autumn 2009 . Before doing so, it wishes to take into account the views of all interested parties. The deadline for submissions is 10 April 2009 .

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  Hi Bartosz,

  yes, I got the same problem while opening the link:

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  Adresse:
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  Zeile (row) Nr. 451, Spalte (column) 5:

  I put Wolfgang Strohbach in copy.

  @Wolfgang: Do you know the contact person to address the problem to?

  Best regards,
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  Hello everyone,





  I am having problems opening a COREP extension taxonomy referring to the
Internet
  location of the C-EBS core taxonomy files.





  It seems that the file
  http://www.c-ebs.org/eu/fr/esrs/corep/2006-07-01/t-si-2006-07-01-definition.xml
  has not been fully uploaded (it finishes on line 451 character 189 which in a
  middle of a tag). Its size is 102KB (compared to 131KB from the zipped version
of
  the taxonomy).





  Has anyone experienced similar problems?





  Regards,





  Bartosz





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Hi Bartosz,

yes, I got the same problem while opening the link:

XML-Verarbeitungsfehler: Ungeschlossenes Token (Unclosed token)
Adresse:
http://www.c-ebs.org/eu/fr/esrs/corep/2006-07-01/t-si-2006-07-01-definition.xml
Zeile (row) Nr. 451, Spalte (column) 5:

I put Wolfgang Strohbach in copy.

@Wolfgang: Do you know the contact person to address the problem to?

Best regards,
Katrin



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                     an
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  Hello everyone,





  I am having problems opening a COREP extension taxonomy referring to the
Internet
  location of the C-EBS core taxonomy files.





  It seems that the file
  http://www.c-ebs.org/eu/fr/esrs/corep/2006-07-01/t-si-2006-07-01-definition.xml
  has not been fully uploaded (it finishes on line 451 character 189 which in a
  middle of a tag). Its size is 102KB (compared to 131KB from the zipped version
of
  the taxonomy).





  Has anyone experienced similar problems?





  Regards,





  Bartosz





  ---


  Bartosz Ochocki


  Business Reporting – Advisory Group


  http://www.br-ag.eu









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Dear member of the CEBS XBRL Network,

We would like to invite you to the Thursday's conference call of the
COREP/FINREP XBRL Networks. This conference call tries to update members on the
status of the works in the XBRL taxonomies and related topics.

Contact details are: PHONE NUMBER: +34 91 495 18 99 Conference ID: 563483*

Time: 10:30 CEST (Paris), 09:30 London, 11:30 Athens, 09:30 UTC.

Agenda:

1. Next F2F Core Team meeting: Warsaw (Poland) March 16th 09:00 - 17th 13:00,
2009, preparing materials for the plenary session on 20 April. Compilation of
atendees list. See website at
http://www.corep.info/20090316/CoreTeamMeetingWarsaw.html
Proposed agenda:
§ Review of FINREP templates in order to draft a formal data model
§ Identify the IFRS elements relevant for FINREP
(Only if some time remains available at the end of the meeting :)
o Working plan update
o Review of agreements on Best Practices
o Speakers for the XBRL Conference in Paris


2. BEST PRACTICE to be discussed: Review of current agreements reached on Best
Practices at
http://www.xbrlwiki.info/index.php?title=Best_Practices_on_Data_Definitions

Other Best Practices Items for next Conf Calls : Report type (Solo,
Consolidated, other options); Non-numeric items: definition and values;
Administrative data and feedback parameters; ID and tagging of cells and
(sub)totals.
Partitipants are kindly invited to check the list and suggest priorities and
timetables.

3. www.eurofiling.info operational as Internet domain name pointing
www.finrep.info. Please start to obtain your Google account. Info at
www.finrep.info main page

4. Formulas, Versioning, and Best Practices at XBRL International level

5. AOB.

Best regards,

Ignacio Boixo
Committee of European Banking Supervisors
XBRL Network Coordination
www.corep.info www.finrep.info boixo@...
Phone +34 913386452 Cellular/mobile +34 618526434

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The COREP and FINREP taxonomies are now also available in the open source
tool "ABRA-SEARCH.com".

The overview taxonomies are reachable with the following links:
For COREP:
http://www.abra-search.com/ABRASearch.html?locale=en&taxonomy=p_all
For FINREP:
http://www.abra-search.com/ABRASearch.html?locale=en&taxonomy=t-FINREP-2008-01-0\
1

The links are going to be integrated in the COREP/FINREP website.

Currently a dimensional view is not implemented but the ABRA-SEARCH will be
adjusted in the course of this year.

Many thanks to Thomas Klement for integrating the taxonomies in this
open-source search engine.

Best regards,
Katrin



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Dear member of the CEBS XBRL Network,

We would like to invite you to the Thursday's conference call of the
COREP/FINREP XBRL Networks. This conference call tries to update members on the
status of the works in the XBRL taxonomies and related topics.

Contact details are: PHONE NUMBER: +34 91 495 18 99 Conference ID: 563483*

Time: 10:30 CEST (Paris), 09:30 London, 11:30 Athens, 09:30 UTC.

Agenda:

1. (FINREP colleagues are kindly invited to attend) Next F2F Core Team meeting:
Warsaw (Poland) March 16th 09:00 - 17th 13:00, 2009, preparing materials for the
plenary session on 20 April. Compilation of atendees list. See website at
http://www.corep.info/20090316/CoreTeamMeetingWarsaw.html
Proposed agenda:
§ Review of FINREP templates in order to draft a formal data model
§ Identify the IFRS elements relevant for FINREP
(Only if some time remains available at the end of the meeting :)
o Working plan update
o Review of agreements on Best Practices
o Speakers for the XBRL Conference in Paris


2. BEST PRACTICE to be discussed: Reporting institution identification.

Please visit http://www.data.corep.info/documents/CX-nnn/CX-087_ECB_MFI_List.doc
and
http://www.xbrlwiki.info/index.php?title=Best_Practices_on_Data_Definitions

Agreement on last ConfCall, Based on 5.1.1.3     Item data types, located at
  
http://www.xbrl.org/Specification/XBRL-RECOMMENDATION-2003-12-31+Corrected-Errat\
a-2008-07-02.htm#_4.8

Other Items, apart from monetaryItemType (xbrli:monetary; XBRL TYPE, without W3C
XML correspondence )
(Question: What ItemType to represent percentages and currency exchange rates?)


Item types to be used following the guidelines in http://www.w3.org/.
Only a few non-monetary data types are considered useful in European Banking
Supervision. In case of necesity, to be discused in the CEBS XBRL Network. The
goal is define the diferent data types to be used in the the European Banking
Supervision contaxt.

Free String type Items such as Business Identity Codes.Defined at
http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlschema-2/#string
"stringItemType" Based on practical experience from implementation work in
Spain, the suggestion is being made that these free string type codes, and other
similar 'Patterns' be maintained in the Formulas Link base and not in the Main
taxonomy because  they are easier to change/maintain  than  in the linkbase.

Date and Time:  see  dateItemType  and timeItemType See
http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlschema-2/#date and
http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlschema-2/#time
(Question: It is timeItemType actually used in the CEBS field?)

Boolean Values such as True  or False : 1 or 0: Y or N. booleanItemType See
http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlschema-2/#boolean
There is a need to be consistent here and the suggestion here is to follow the
guidelines in http://www.w3.org/ for how to deal with issues such as the Boolean
value being left blank. See http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlschema-2/#rf-whiteSpace



Other Best Practices Items for next Conf Calls : Report type (Solo,
Consolidated, other options); Non-numeric items: definition and values;
Administrative data and feedback parameters; ID and tagging of cells and
(sub)totals.
Partitipants are kindly invited to check the list and suggest priorities and
timetables.

3. www.eurofiling.info operational as Internet domain name pointing
www.finrep.info. Please start to obtain your Google account. Info at
www.finrep.info main page

4. Formulas, Versioning, and Best Practices at XBRL International level

5. AOB.

Best regards,

Ignacio Boixo
Committee of European Banking Supervisors
XBRL Network Coordination
www.corep.info www.finrep.info boixo@...
Phone +34 913386452 Cellular/mobile +34 618526434

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From the minutes of today's conference call:
>
> 6. Perfomance (Commission Bancaire)
>
> Bernard Darrius (Bank of France) had posted a separate question in
> relation to performance issues when processing taxonomies. The full
> text of Bernard's original question is posted below
>
> It is absolutely essential that all the issues here are fully explored
> and explained; otherwise there is a high risk of XBRL being wrongly
> maligned, either deliberately or otherwise.
>
> Therefore all assistance from the XBRL community would be very
> much appreciated. Thank you.
>













CoreFiling would be more than happy to help and clarify any performance
issues.  As per my previous mail, our processor is capable of handling
these large documents with reasonable performance, so we do not believe
that this is a problem with XBRL itself.  Please feel free to get in
contact with me if you need any assistance.

It may also be worth raising this with the Software Interoperability
Working Group.

Best Regards,
Joel Vicente


>
> bernard darrius wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> > I'm doing performance load test for two taxonomies of our future project.
> >
> > We've decided to separate them from the main taxo since they are very
> > specific.
> >
> > They are very simple (about 20 primaries and one typed dimension which
> > can take about 250 000 possibilities).
> >
> > I'm using a Unix Aix server 64 bit with 20Go Ram and 8 PCU with a 64
> > bit JVM.
> >
> > We've decided to use tuples for this simple taxo because validating is
> > faster.
> >
> > It takes 5h30 to validate 50 000 possibilities (instance of 90Mo) with
> > a Xmx parameter in the batch of 15 000 (15Go) (when using 2Go there's
> > a OutOfMemoryError after about 10min handling)
> >
> > Only about 20% of PCU is used, problem comes from memory
> >
> > We use a standard full XBRL processor.
> >
> > With bigger files, there are OutOfMemoryError.
> >
> > The target is 250 000 lines (about 450Mo).
> >
> > It takes few minutes with XML schema validation but we would like to
> > be homogeneous with all taxonomies of the project.
> >
> >
> >
> > Would it be suitable to develop a "light" XBRL validation and still
> > call it XBRL?
> >
> > Do you have any other suggestion to handle the problem?
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers
>
>
>
>
>


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