I have just up-dated my book listing to include several additional
technical, as well as historical, publications.

visit. . . . www.lake-electronics.co.uk/vintage.htm

Links to other 'vintage' sites would be appreciated!

Regards,

Alan Lake

Ted...

The Woodcliffe Lodge up in nearby Victor, N.Y., is an absolutely FABULOUS
place to stay for something just over $100.00 (ask for the AAA
discount/corporate rates)...

My wife & I indulge ourselves every year therein, on the occasion of the AWA
Spring Meet...fabulous! Really something to look forward to every year.

~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ





----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Miller" <ccawa@...>
To: <antiquewirelessassociation@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: <antiquewirelessassociation@yahoogroups.com>; <cc-awa@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:41 AM
Subject: [AWA] Re: [AA] Marietta, Rochester


> Gerald:
>
> Knowing your sweet wife, I think it is regrettable that you would have to
> settle for anything other than what is required by her situation.  I
> sincerely hope there are actually some rooms available and this can be
> worked out for her.
>
> In retrospect, I think this speaks volumes about the Spring Meet in the
> Carolinas and for the host hotel.  I remember you complementing the hotel
> for their service to your wife a couple of years ago.  This year, I had
> an episode of damage to my windshield while in their lot during the meet.
>  They offered to pay to fix the damage, however, my insurace covered it.
> When they learned the insurance would fix the damage, they provided me
> with a certificate for two future nights free stay for two people  and
> four future complimentary meals for 2 people (8 meals).
>
> Good Luck,   Ted
>
> On Thu, 31 May 2001 20:25:41 -0400 "gerald cromer" <gcromer@...>
> writes:
> > Does anyone know how many rooms the Marriott sets aside for the
> > Conference this year. The wife called today and they said they had
> > sold out of the $94 rooms, but had plenty for $150.
> >
> > We have stayed there for the past several years and had always
> > gotten a handicapped room on the 1st floor, but was supprised
> > that all conference rooms were gone. We've called later in the year
> > and still got rooms in the past. With her having to use a motorized
> > scooter to get around, this makes it to where she wouldn't be able
> > to come to the conference. It sure was nice for her to be able to
> > come down to the conference as she felt like it, It looks like we
> > won't being attending this year.
> > Gerald K/4NHN
> > Cayce,SC
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
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Ted...

The Woodcliffe Lodge up in nearby Victor, N.Y., is an absolutely FABULOUS
place to stay for something just over $100.00 (ask for the AAA
discount/corporate rates)...

My wife & I indulge ourselves every year therein, on the occasion of the
AWA
Spring Meet...fabulous! Really something to look forward to every year.

~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ


Hi Ted

well it only looks about 12 miles away but how/where do you park at the
Marriot.

they are only allowing those folks living there to park and I believe are
running shuttle busses to
other local motels. Which would be OK except the problem of getting gear
to the auctions
is the AWA shuttling to your motel ??

Bob  K3DJC

Hi Ted,

We're going to call back and give it another try. I'll see how it comes out.

You're correct about where we have our Spring Meet. It couldn't get any
better.
They knocked off 1 nights stay on my bill because they had closed out my key
card 1 day early
and I had to get it reprogrammed. That wasn't any problem on my part and I
didn't mind
walking around to the desk to get it taken care out.

So when I checked out I noted to them that they had shorted 1 nights stay on
my bill. "No, Mr. Cromer,
that's for the inconvenience we caused you on your key card."  Talk about
"Southern Hospitality"

I think that this type of surroundings is what gives us the edge at our meet
along with the nice people that put it on.

It's good that they offered to help in your case. How many places would have
even offered ?

73,
Gerald K4NHN
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Miller" <ccawa@...>
To: <antiquewirelessassociation@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: <antiquewirelessassociation@yahoogroups.com>; <cc-awa@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:41 AM
Subject: [AWA] Re: [AA] Marietta, Rochester


> Gerald:
>
> Knowing your sweet wife, I think it is regrettable that you would have to
> settle for anything other than what is required by her situation.  I
> sincerely hope there are actually some rooms available and this can be
> worked out for her.
>
> In retrospect, I think this speaks volumes about the Spring Meet in the
> Carolinas and for the host hotel.  I remember you complementing the hotel
> for their service to your wife a couple of years ago.  This year, I had
> an episode of damage to my windshield while in their lot during the meet.
>  They offered to pay to fix the damage, however, my insurace covered it.
> When they learned the insurance would fix the damage, they provided me
> with a certificate for two future nights free stay for two people  and
> four future complimentary meals for 2 people (8 meals).
>
> Good Luck,   Ted
>
> On Thu, 31 May 2001 20:25:41 -0400 "gerald cromer" <gcromer@...>
> writes:
> > Does anyone know how many rooms the Marriott sets aside for the
> > Conference this year. The wife called today and they said they had
> > sold out of the $94 rooms, but had plenty for $150.
> >
> > We have stayed there for the past several years and had always
> > gotten a handicapped room on the 1st floor, but was supprised
> > that all conference rooms were gone. We've called later in the year
> > and still got rooms in the past. With her having to use a motorized
> > scooter to get around, this makes it to where she wouldn't be able
> > to come to the conference. It sure was nice for her to be able to
> > come down to the conference as she felt like it, It looks like we
> > won't being attending this year.
> > Gerald K/4NHN
> > Cayce,SC
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
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Gee, are we talking about the same hotel?  The Sheraton Airport Plaza on
Billy Graham Parkway in Charlotte?

The year before last, they must have been having some kind of problem with
their magnetic key card programmer.  I had to return to the front desk
several times (three, as I recall) to get a new key after the old one
stopped working.  Each time I was met with indifferent shrugs from the desk
clerk as he or she reluctantly programmed a new key, a service I shouldn't
have needed in the first place.  When I checked out, I paid full price for
every night's stay, too.

The Spring Meet is the greatest; I mean no disrespect towards it.  It's just
that I never get anything but grief from hotels, no matter what region of
the country they're located in.

John

John Pelham
E-mail   john@...
Antique radio Web site   http://www.radiophile.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "gerald cromer" <gcromer@...>
To: <antiquewirelessassociation@yahoogroups.com>; <cc-awa@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [AWA] Re: [AA] Marietta, Rochester


> Hi Ted,
>
> We're going to call back and give it another try. I'll see how it comes
out.
>
> You're correct about where we have our Spring Meet. It couldn't get any
> better.
> They knocked off 1 nights stay on my bill because they had closed out my
key
> card 1 day early
> and I had to get it reprogrammed. That wasn't any problem on my part and I
> didn't mind
> walking around to the desk to get it taken care out.
>
> So when I checked out I noted to them that they had shorted 1 nights stay
on
> my bill. "No, Mr. Cromer,
> that's for the inconvenience we caused you on your key card."  Talk about
> "Southern Hospitality"
>
> I think that this type of surroundings is what gives us the edge at our
meet
> along with the nice people that put it on.
>
> It's good that they offered to help in your case. How many places would
have
> even offered ?
>
> 73,
> Gerald K4NHN
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ted Miller" <ccawa@...>
> To: <antiquewirelessassociation@yahoogroups.com>
> Cc: <antiquewirelessassociation@yahoogroups.com>; <cc-awa@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:41 AM
> Subject: [AWA] Re: [AA] Marietta, Rochester
>
>
> > Gerald:
> >
> > Knowing your sweet wife, I think it is regrettable that you would have
to
> > settle for anything other than what is required by her situation.  I
> > sincerely hope there are actually some rooms available and this can be
> > worked out for her.
> >
> > In retrospect, I think this speaks volumes about the Spring Meet in the
> > Carolinas and for the host hotel.  I remember you complementing the
hotel
> > for their service to your wife a couple of years ago.  This year, I had
> > an episode of damage to my windshield while in their lot during the
meet.
> >  They offered to pay to fix the damage, however, my insurace covered it.
> > When they learned the insurance would fix the damage, they provided me
> > with a certificate for two future nights free stay for two people  and
> > four future complimentary meals for 2 people (8 meals).
> >
> > Good Luck,   Ted
> >
> > On Thu, 31 May 2001 20:25:41 -0400 "gerald cromer" <gcromer@...>
> > writes:
> > > Does anyone know how many rooms the Marriott sets aside for the
> > > Conference this year. The wife called today and they said they had
> > > sold out of the $94 rooms, but had plenty for $150.
> > >
> > > We have stayed there for the past several years and had always
> > > gotten a handicapped room on the 1st floor, but was supprised
> > > that all conference rooms were gone. We've called later in the year
> > > and still got rooms in the past. With her having to use a motorized
> > > scooter to get around, this makes it to where she wouldn't be able
> > > to come to the conference. It sure was nice for her to be able to
> > > come down to the conference as she felt like it, It looks like we
> > > won't being attending this year.
> > > Gerald K/4NHN
> > > Cayce,SC
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
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Hello All!

	 I just received some disturbing, but not surprising news via the weekly
ARRL web newsletter. On July 1st of this year the BBC World Service will
cease shortwave transmissions in English to North America, Australia and
New Zealand. Citing growing use of domestic FM station reception of
their programs in this country, plus the growing use of satellites and
the Internet to receive their programming, the BBC have decided to
terminate these shortwave broadcasts and in the process save around
$700,000 a year in operating costs.
	 Thirty years ago this year I became an avid shortwave listener, a young
kid just entering junior high school who used his best friends'
Knight-kit shortwave radio to listen to the world, and the first
shortwave station I remember listening to was the BBC World Service. The
first shortwave QSL card I ever got was from the BBC.
	 As this date approaches I intend to listen one last time to one of
those English broadcasts with the sole purpose of creating a reception
report to send in for one last "over the air" QSL card. I think it would
be a good idea for someone to find out the time and frequency of the
very last transmission and make a digital recording of it for the AWA
archives. If this is done, might I suggest that at the end of the last
transmission, when that carrier suddenly leaves the air, that the
recording continue for one minute following the end of transmission,
recording nothing but the remaining static for a nice dramatic touch.
	 This was bound to happen, what with the advent of the Internet and the
expansion of their BBC America service. On the bright side for ham radio
operators, this may be an indication that it may become a little easier
to argue at the upcoming international telecommunication conferences for
exclusive worldwide rights to the 40 meter band. I've noticed in the
past couple of years that there are much fewer carriers on 40 meters at
night than I remember 25 and 30 years ago.

	 Gary Carter - WA4IAM

Gerald--

I was surprised to hear about your wife's problem. Our conference
information in the current OTB shows that the special rates ($92 single $94
double) are available through August 27.  I've never heard of anyone being
refused within this window of opportunity. And it certainly would be
ludicrous for people to be refused this early.

I just got off the phone with the reservations clerk at the Marriott. She
said that not only were the rooms still available, she had just booked one.
However,  the rates are available only for bookings from Sept 3 to Sept 9.
It might be that your wife wanted to add on days outside this window--which
would then be regular rate.

Whatever the source of the misunderstanding was, it appears that you will be
able to get a reservation at the preferred rate if you try again.

Marc Ellis
Editor, "The OTB"


From: gerald cromer <gcromer@...>
To: <antiquewirelessassociation@yahoogroups.com>; <cc-awa@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 7:25 PM
Subject: [AWA] Marriott, Rochester


> Does anyone know how many rooms the Marriott sets aside for the Conference
this year. The wife called today and they said they had sold out of the $94
rooms, but had plenty for $150.
>
> We have stayed there for the past several years and had always gotten a
handicapped room on the 1st floor, but was supprised
> that all conference rooms were gone. We've called later in the year and
still got rooms in the past. With her having to use a motorized scooter to
get around, this makes it to where she wouldn't be able to come to the
conference. It sure was nice for her to be able to come down to the
conference as she felt like it, It looks like we won't being attending this
year.
> Gerald K/4NHN
> Cayce,SC
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>

Our conference
information in the current OTB shows that the special rates ($92 single
$94
double) are available through August 27.  I've never heard of anyone
being
refused within this window of opportunity. And it certainly would be
ludicrous for people to be refused this early.

Well Mark
I guess I should have called the Marriot before
all My gloom N doom    HI

Just did and have my reservations all set up fer September
so what other problems were must have been specific to that
situation

this generated almost as much traffic as the sulfnbk.exe virus  : )


Bob  K3DJC

To my friends,

(I'm sorry if you receive this twice, I seem to be having a problem with my
Email today.)

    I received this message from Dave, AA1A, [ daveaa1a@... ] from
Marshfield, MA.  He is trying to save one of the last Coast Guard stations
from being forever lost.  He is attending a town meeting on Monday night
and needs some support.  Please read his message and do what ever you
can.  At least send him an email of support.

    He has a small web site started with photos of the station.  It sure
would make a great ham station and radio museum.

73' and Thanks, John Dilks, K2TQN

-----AA1A's message-----

Pls pass to as many as you feel would be interested.
Coasties, Hams, former R/Os and all interested parties...
=
The U.S. Coast Guard Radio Station, NMF, Marshfield, Mass. was recently
closed and has passed into the care of the Town of Marshfield. Its use will
be discussed this Monday eve at the Board of Selectmen meeting. It is hoped
that as many interested parties will respond and see to it that we keep our
heritage by securing some space within the property to set up an Amateur
Radio Station, Museum items, records and archives and whatever volunteer
efforts will yield.

I plan to make notice to the board that the 'Friends of ComSta Boston' will
be interested in setting up shop at the retired station with Radio
Communncations equipment that will be operating and available to the public
at NO expense to the town. Since this is an idea expressed to me only
yesterday, I would like to have a show of hands from anyone interested in
this project.

We have a small interim web page @
http://www.radiocom.net/History/index5.htm but we intend to break it out
into it's own site.

Recommendations, steering, ideas, support and participation by as many who
may be interested will be the indication that WE are headed in the right
direction... Our Radio history in this town is all but forgotten. In 1906
Reg Fessenden made the worlds FIRST radio broadcast and produced 500
invention. AT&T long lines operated station WOU nearby as a High Seas
RadioTelephone facility until recent years. Coast Guard ComSta Boston, NMF
did yeoman service until recently and I think it is our responsibility to
keep these events in the public eye.
ref: http://www.radiocom.net/Fessenden

Thanks for your support,

Dave Riley, AA1A, NMF, retired Master Radio Electronics Officer
NMF@...

To my friends,

    I received this message from Dave, AA1A, [ daveaa1a@... ] from
Marshfield, MA.  He is trying to save one of the last Coast Guard stations
from being forever lost.  He is attending a town meeting on Monday night
and needs some support.  Please read his message and do what ever you
can.  At least send him an email of support.

    He has a small web site started with photos of the station.  It sure
would make a great ham station and radio museum.

73' and Thanks, John Dilks, K2TQN

-----AA1A's message-----

Pls pass to as many as you feel would be interested.
Coasties, Hams, former R/Os and all interested parties...
=
The U.S. Coast Guard Radio Station, NMF, Marshfield, Mass. was recently
closed and has passed into the care of the Town of Marshfield. Its use will
be discussed this Monday eve at the Board of Selectmen meeting. It is hoped
that as many interested parties will respond and see to it that we keep our
heritage by securing some space within the property to set up an Amateur
Radio Station, Museum items, records and archives and whatever volunteer
efforts will yield.

I plan to make notice to the board that the 'Friends of ComSta Boston' will
be interested in setting up shop at the retired station with Radio
Communncations equipment that will be operating and available to the public
at NO expense to the town. Since this is an idea expressed to me only
yesterday, I would like to have a show of hands from anyone interested in
this project.

We have a small interim web page @
http://www.radiocom.net/History/index5.htm but we intend to break it out
into it's own site.

Recommendations, steering, ideas, support and participation by as many who
may be interested will be the indication that WE are headed in the right
direction... Our Radio history in this town is all but forgotten. In 1906
Reg Fessenden made the worlds FIRST radio broadcast and produced 500
invention. AT&T long lines operated station WOU nearby as a High Seas
RadioTelephone facility until recent years. Coast Guard ComSta Boston, NMF
did yeoman service until recently and I think it is our responsibility to
keep these events in the public eye.
ref: http://www.radiocom.net/Fessenden

Thanks for your support,

Dave Riley, AA1A, NMF, retired Master Radio Electronics Officer
NMF@...

Marc,
Thanks for checking into this.

I had the wife call back today and she talked to Laura and she took the
reservations with no problem.
The dates were within the window. She didn't have any trouble at all.

2 days ago she talked with Marsha. [I believe] and she said right quick,
with no special requests on our part,  that all the $94 rooms were gone,
would you like our $150 room. The XYL did spell out that she was talking
about the AWA, old radio show and gave the dates.

Anyway, they are made now and we are set to come. We always try and make
plans very early to come so we don't get left out of the fun.

Thanks,
Gerald Cromer K4NHN
Cayce, SC 29033


----- Original Message -----
From: "marc ellis" <mfellis@...>
To: <antiquewirelessassociation@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: [AWA] Marriott, Rochester


> Gerald--
>
> I was surprised to hear about your wife's problem. Our conference
> information in the current OTB shows that the special rates ($92 single
$94
> double) are available through August 27.  I've never heard of anyone being
> refused within this window of opportunity. And it certainly would be
> ludicrous for people to be refused this early.
>
> I just got off the phone with the reservations clerk at the Marriott. She
> said that not only were the rooms still available, she had just booked
one.
> However,  the rates are available only for bookings from Sept 3 to Sept 9.
> It might be that your wife wanted to add on days outside this
window--which
> would then be regular rate.
>
> Whatever the source of the misunderstanding was, it appears that you will
be
> able to get a reservation at the preferred rate if you try again.
>
> Marc Ellis
> Editor, "The OTB"
>
>
> From: gerald cromer <gcromer@...>
> To: <antiquewirelessassociation@yahoogroups.com>; <cc-awa@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 7:25 PM
> Subject: [AWA] Marriott, Rochester
>
>
> > Does anyone know how many rooms the Marriott sets aside for the
Conference
> this year. The wife called today and they said they had sold out of the
$94
> rooms, but had plenty for $150.
> >
> > We have stayed there for the past several years and had always gotten a
> handicapped room on the 1st floor, but was supprised
> > that all conference rooms were gone. We've called later in the year and
> still got rooms in the past. With her having to use a motorized scooter to
> get around, this makes it to where she wouldn't be able to come to the
> conference. It sure was nice for her to be able to come down to the
> conference as she felt like it, It looks like we won't being attending
this
> year.
> > Gerald K/4NHN
> > Cayce,SC
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>

Hi Bob...

I've never been to one of the AWA September conferences, just to the Spring
Meets...

Sorry!

~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ





----- Original Message -----
From: "BOB RIESE" <riese-k3djc@...>
To: <antiquewirelessassociation@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: [AWA] Re: [AA] Marietta, Rochester


> Ted...
>
> The Woodcliffe Lodge up in nearby Victor, N.Y., is an absolutely FABULOUS
> place to stay for something just over $100.00 (ask for the AAA
> discount/corporate rates)...
>
> My wife & I indulge ourselves every year therein, on the occasion of the
> AWA
> Spring Meet...fabulous! Really something to look forward to every year.
>
> ~73~ Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ
>
>
> Hi Ted
>
> well it only looks about 12 miles away but how/where do you park at the
> Marriot.
>
> they are only allowing those folks living there to park and I believe are
> running shuttle busses to
> other local motels. Which would be OK except the problem of getting gear
> to the auctions
> is the AWA shuttling to your motel ??
>
> Bob  K3DJC
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>

Howdy,

I just acquired a Gonset GSB-100 xmtr at the Rochester, NY hamfest, and
a schematic would greatly facilitate bringing it to back to life.

Is there anyone out there who would be kind enough to scan it and fire
me off a JPG (or other common format) file?

73 and thanks in advance,
-Larry/NE1S

--
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>

>
> Howdy,
>
> I just acquired a Gonset GSB-100 xmtr at the
> Rochester, NY hamfest, and
> a schematic would greatly facilitate bringing it to
> back to life.
>
> Is there anyone out there who would be kind enough
> to scan it and fire
> me off a JPG (or other common format) file?
>
> 73 and thanks in advance,
> -Larry/NE1

_Larry

   I have a GSB-100 and I got My manual from HI_Manual
p.o. box 820 Concil Bluffs,Ia it is a good clean copy.
I am slowly restoring it about half there it is s.n.
1001_Good luck. Keith 73
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OK all you old time broadcasting guys,
I need some help IDing a piece I got at the
WBT Electronic Goodie Grab yesterday.
Use this URL to see a photo of it,
http://RadioHeaven.homestead.com/WBT_tuner.html
Anyone know what vintage it is?
How about power handling capacity?

Thanks, Ron

Ron -

Your rotary variable inductor is of the style used for *generations* in
broadcast-antenna phasing units and impedance-matching applications.  Since
WBT is directional at night, this coil could easily have been used in a
phaser, but could also have been used to tune out a bit of capacitive
reactance at the tower base, directional or not.

Most of these inductors use clamp-on taps to change the inductance, rather
than continuous rotation, so this one is a bit unusual.  Because each phaser
is essentially a custom job, the coils appear in a wide variety of sizes and
inductances.  This one is also more burly than usual; most of 'em just use
edge-wound copper ribbon.

It's hard to SWAG a power-handling capacity, because the critical parameter
is amps, not kilowatts; however, this one could easily have appeared in a
50-kW installation like WBT.  The physical design is timeless, but the
antiquish design of the knob suggests '30s-'40s.  (Anybody know when WBT
raised power and went directional at night?)

Now, how about an after-action report on the clean-out event? (!)

Lud Sibley

Ron Lawrence wrote:

> OK all you old time broadcasting guys,
> I need some help IDing a piece I got at the
> WBT Electronic Goodie Grab yesterday.
> Use this URL to see a photo of it,
> http://RadioHeaven.homestead.com/WBT_tuner.html
> Anyone know what vintage it is?
> How about power handling capacity?
>
> Thanks, Ron
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

I'll defer to Ron for the "official" after-action report regarding the
clean out of the WBT basement Saturday.  But to get things started, I
wanted to let everyone know it was a complete success.

WBT has a special place in the hearts of all AWA members in and around
Charlotte, NC.  We were especially pleased when the station approached
the Carolinas Chapter of the AWA and offered us the opportunity to
"excavate" the basement of the original (1928) transmitter building which
had, over the past 60 or more years, become the station's junk pile.
With the help of the station's former Chief Engineer (also a club member)
we were able to identify items and place them in time and usage at the
station.  We went about the task in a systematic manner to preserve and
document the scene before opening the site to others for help in
disposing of items that did not possess historical significance.

Among the items I was able to obtain are a pair of red warning globes
that were originally at the top of the antenna towers built in 1928.  RCA
tubes - an 857B and an 892R (heavy with black cooling fins) found there
way to my vehicle.  These are of later vintage, but very displayable.
Several antique documents regarding tube stockage levels and  inventories
also came into my possession.

Most of the historically important items (several van loads) are now the
property of the CCAWA.  Among  these are four large inductor coils
(probably four feet diameter that were used with the old flat-top antenna
Ca. 1928-late 1930's).  These items are now in storage awaiting our being
able to establish a museum.

This was a unique opportunity.  WBT celebrates its 80th birthday next
year, having gone on the air in April, 1922. We expect to feature this
pioneer station's story  in some manner during the Spring Meet in the
Carolinas in March, 2002.

I'll shut up now and give Ron an opportunity to share with you his take
on the event and to publicize other items obtained as he sees fit.

Regards........Ted Miller

On Thu, 03 Jun 1999 14:25:03 -0700 Ludwell Sibley
<tubelore@...> writes:
> Ron -
>
> Your rotary variable inductor is of the style used for *generations*
> in
> broadcast-antenna phasing units and impedance-matching applications.
>  Since
> WBT is directional at night, this coil could easily have been used
> in a
> phaser, but could also have been used to tune out a bit of
> capacitive
> reactance at the tower base, directional or not.
>
> Most of these inductors use clamp-on taps to change the inductance,
> rather
> than continuous rotation, so this one is a bit unusual.  Because
> each phaser
> is essentially a custom job, the coils appear in a wide variety of
> sizes and
> inductances.  This one is also more burly than usual; most of 'em
> just use
> edge-wound copper ribbon.
>
> It's hard to SWAG a power-handling capacity, because the critical
> parameter
> is amps, not kilowatts; however, this one could easily have appeared
> in a
> 50-kW installation like WBT.  The physical design is timeless, but
> the
> antiquish design of the knob suggests '30s-'40s.  (Anybody know when
> WBT
> raised power and went directional at night?)
>
> Now, how about an after-action report on the clean-out event? (!)
>
> Lud Sibley
>
> Ron Lawrence wrote:
>
> > OK all you old time broadcasting guys,
> > I need some help IDing a piece I got at the
> > WBT Electronic Goodie Grab yesterday.
> > Use this URL to see a photo of it,
> > http://RadioHeaven.homestead.com/WBT_tuner.html
> > Anyone know what vintage it is?
> > How about power handling capacity?
> >
> > Thanks, Ron
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>

"excavate" the basement of the original (1928) transmitter building which
had, over the past 60 or more years, become the station's junk pile.
With the help of the station's former Chief Engineer (also a club member)


Now plan a talk up in Rochester

sorry I missed it but was there in sprit

Bob  K3DJC

Well I guess after the prodding from Mr. Miller
I'll have to go ahead and do some sort of report
on the fun at WBT's transmitter site Saturday morning.

As happens with "most" antique radio events
there was a good crowd already there waiting
when I arrived. We had intended for our clubs
officers to be the first ones in to make sure
that we hadn't missed anything of historical interest
that should be saved for our "future" museum.
But instead of barring the door, we let everyone in
at the same time.
The best way to describe it is a "feeding frenzy".
Things happened so fast I didn't even have time
to think about taking any photos until it was
all over.

As Ted said the basement had been the stations
junk pile for over 60 years.
There's was lots and lots of misc. electronic
"stuff" that had just been tossed in a pile.
Lots of tape decks, cart machines & carts,
test equipment, large tubes (10-875B's, 3-892R's
& 1 852 (I think) 50kw water cooled tube)
there were 3 "On The Air" lighted signs,
stacks of old computers (that went in the dumpster)
there were 2 really nice RCA OP-5 remote amps from
the early 40's.

After all the goodies were loaded in our cars and vans
we then started toting the left over junk that no one
wanted to the dumpster. By 11AM the basement
was clean.

Unfortunately the station management had decided
that they wanted to keep all of the mics and all
of the records. Some of these may become available
at a later date.

I brought home several things that I found and
several things that some of my "friends" stashed
in my van when I wasn't looking.

With the exception of some locals that showed up
a little late and were disappointed that there
was noting left, EVERYONE else had a great time.

After the event of the guys from out of town
followed me home to visit my collection.

As they say, "A good time was had by all".

73,

Ron

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Ron Lawrence  K C 4 Y O Y
CC-AWA Chapter President & Conference Chairman

email: kc4yoy@...

snail mail: POBox 3015
                 Matthews, NC 28106

home phone: 704.289.1166

Visit the  CC-AWA web page at:
http://www.cc-awa.org

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Well I guess after the prodding from Mr. Miller
I'll have to go ahead and do some sort of report


ahh the other question is do they have any sister stations
in need of the same cleaning   : )

Bob

I recently acquired a Montgomery Wards Airline "Teledial" Radio,
model 62-297 at the Charlotte meet.  Just curious how the operator is
supposed to use the "Teledial" feature.  A large 8" bakelite disc
looks like a telephone dial, with finger holes and inserted labels
with stations names like WBZ, and also POLICE etc.  Can the dial
actually be used to (approximately) tune the radio, or is this just a
gimmick?  If it can be used, I suppose one would place a finger in
one of the holes containing a label for the station you want and then
turn the dial until the hole lines up with the dial pointer?  Just
guessing.  There is also a normal tuning control that turns the wheel
(the wheel moves almost 360 degrees while the tuning cap turns 180
degrees).  There is also a small knob at the bottom center that is
spring loaded.  One can push in on this knob and cause the outside
back edge of the knob to engage the bakelite wheel - I suppose this
is some sort of "vernier" tuning.  Again, just guessing.

Does anyone have an operating manual for this or a similar radio?
I'd really like to know how the radio was supposed to be operated.

Thanks in advance.
Dave McClellan
Atlanta, Georgia

Tks for the report Ron - was wondering how it would go. - sri I missed
it but spent Sunday at Manassas 'fest and would have been too much
for one weekend.

          Chuck
          kb4new
          cswiger@...

At 07:59 PM 6/3/01 -0400, you wrote:
>Well I guess after the prodding from Mr. Miller
>I'll have to go ahead and do some sort of report

Hi Folks,

I would like to do some tube trading.  You probably got some you
would like to get rid of and a few that you need.

I need some 6K7's, 6J5's, 6F8,s, 6K6's, and even 5Z3's.  I really do
not care if they are new or used.

I got gobs of 6AU6's that are used, but good.  I will make sure of
that.  I also have a gob of 5654/6AK5W's that are new.

73 Jim K7SLI


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If you've got a moment, click on the below and see if you can help ID
a receiver I recently purchased. It was advertised as a homebrew rig, but
the quality of construction and some preliminary ID's by John Dilks has
me questioning that.

http://www.old-radios.com/radios.html

Construction is first rate. All sockets are ceramic, all metalwork is radiused
and deburred. Edges on the chassis are rolled under...if it's NOT factory
made, it was built by a master craftsman.

Given the small variable caps , I'd have to believe that this was ham band
only?

Any hints greatly appreciated... hope the pictures post ok...

Best
John

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
John Brewer - WB5OAU/4
AMI #24
Clayton NC
johnmb@...
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

In my humble opinion it is a home brew. Very nicely made, no question about
that. But I would say it is home made or was made at some factory as a piece
of test equipment. 73 - Mike



Mike B. Feher, N4FS
89 Arnold Blvd.
Howell NJ, 07731
(732) 901-9193


----- Original Message -----
From: "john" <johnmb@...>
To: <antiquewirelessassociation@yahoogroups.com>; <cc-awa@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 8:30 PM
Subject: [AWA]


> If you've got a moment, click on the below and see if you can help ID
> a receiver I recently purchased. It was advertised as a homebrew rig, but
> the quality of construction and some preliminary ID's by John Dilks has
> me questioning that.
>
> http://www.old-radios.com/radios.html
>
> Construction is first rate. All sockets are ceramic, all metalwork is
radiused
> and deburred. Edges on the chassis are rolled under...if it's NOT factory
> made, it was built by a master craftsman.
>
> Given the small variable caps , I'd have to believe that this was ham band
> only?
>
> Any hints greatly appreciated... hope the pictures post ok...
>
> Best
> John
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> John Brewer - WB5OAU/4
> AMI #24
> Clayton NC
> johnmb@...
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>

Upon the date 08:32 PM 6/5/01 -0400, Mike Feher said something like:
>In my humble opinion it is a home brew. Very nicely made, no question about
>that. But I would say it is home made or was made at some factory as a piece
>of test equipment. 73 - Mike
>

Hmmm . . .   I agree. Danged nice work for a homebrew, but some of us are
guilty of doing such work when given the resources at our workplace to
construct stuff as part of our jobs or after hours for personal use. Maybe
this is the case?

Maybe a prototype of a new rx design from some manufacturer Mike? High end
of HF to VHF range it seems. Maybe early FM broadcast rx (old pre-war FM
band)? I see a 6H6 in one of the photos. Is it hooked-up as a typical AM
detector or FM ratio det. or discriminator? The IF cans look store-bought
-notice the label in one of the shots? Lessee, are those Millers? What's
the p/n on them?  Lots of "maybes". John, get out your pad of paper, tube
base diagrams and a pencil and get to work! :-)

Would be quite interesting to backtrack the history on this thing I think.

-Chris
-- --
Christian Fandt,         Electronic/Electrical Historian
Jamestown, NY  USA      cfandt@...
         Member of Antique Wireless Association
         URL: http://www.antiquewireless.org/

I finally got all the text added to go with the photos on the
Tour of "Radio Heaven" web page.

Use this URL to check it out when you get a chance.
http://RadioHeaven.homestead.com/displayroom.html

73, Ron

I'll go out on a limb and agree that it is a home brew RX.  I doubt
it's a Harvey (as in Harvey-Wells) as we have Harvey-Wells proto-
types (TBS-50, etc) in the museum and they don't look at all like this
construction.  We also have a variety of home brew items that were
equal or better in construction than your items.  Home brewing was
much more prevalent in the 30's and 40's and many took a lot of
pride and did really good work.  Access to a machine shop helped
a bunch, too.

Cheers,

Ed Gable  k2mp/w2an
Curator, AWA Museum


john wrote:
>
> If you've got a moment, click on the below and see if you can help ID
> a receiver I recently purchased. It was advertised as a homebrew rig, but
> the quality of construction and some preliminary ID's by John Dilks has
> me questioning that.<snip>

Hi Ed,

Take a look at this site:
http://www.swedeart.com/harvey/models/1932/19321279-sss.jpg

(above is all one link)

It shows the Hendricks & Harvey - model Single Signal
Receiver from 1932, Hartford, CT. The "Harvey" is the
same Harvey and the receiver has a strong resemblance to
the one John has, though a few years earlier. Note, in
the ad it states they were also custom made.

When I made my guess to John, was just after the Ebay
sale ended, and I was working from the Ebay photos,
which were not as clear as John's.

Does the museum have this early receiver? I don't know
of any existing.
--
73' John Dilks, K2TQN
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

  > I'll go out on a limb and agree that it is a home brew RX. I doubt
  > it's a Harvey (as in Harvey-Wells) as we have Harvey-Wells proto-
  > types (TBS-50, etc) in the museum and they don't look at all like this
  > construction. We also have a variety of home brew items that were
  > equal or better in construction than your items. Home brewing was
  > much more prevalent in the 30's and 40's and many took a lot of
  > pride and did really good work. Access to a machine shop helped
  > a bunch, too.
  >
  > Cheers,
  >
  > Ed Gable k2mp/w2an
  > Curator, AWA Museum
  >
  >
  > john wrote:
  > >
  > > If you've got a moment, click on the below and see if you can help ID
  > > a receiver I recently purchased. It was advertised as a homebrew rig, but
  > > the quality of construction and some preliminary ID's by John Dilks has
  > > me questioning that.<snip>

A kind soul has answered my request below; I now have my schematic.

Thanks!
-Larry/NE1S

Larry Szendrei wrote:

> Howdy,
>
> I just acquired a Gonset GSB-100 xmtr at the Rochester, NY hamfest, and
> a schematic would greatly facilitate bringing it to back to life.
>
> Is there anyone out there who would be kind enough to scan it and fire
> me off a JPG (or other common format) file?
>
> 73 and thanks in advance,
> -Larry/NE1S
>
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