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#31 From: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri Feb 10, 2006 4:59 pm
Subject: New poll for apln-sea 		apln-sea@yahoogroups.com
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Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the
apln-sea group:

Coming to the Feb 21, 2006 Beer night?

   o Yes
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   o Maybe


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#30 From: "Mitch Lacey" <mitch.lacey@...>
Date: Thu Nov 3, 2005 4:51 pm
Subject: Meeting Locations 		mglacey
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Last I read, we have two options.

Brent said we could meet at Bellevue Place, on the corner of NE 8th and Bellevue Way

Monica said we could meet in downtown Kirkland.

We had some good interest before with Bellevue, so if that is still open, lets meet there for our next meeting.

Brent, can you validate availability please?

I’m working on getting a speaker but am not having great luck so far.

-Mitch


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#29 From: "Chris S. Sterling" <csterling@...>
Date: Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:58 pm
Subject: IASA Meeting, Wednesday, October 26th from 6:30-9:00pm - "Managing Investment Across the Project Life Cycle" 		daredskin
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The Puget Sound meeting of the International Association of Software Architects will be welcoming Scott Came, Monica Yap, and Tamara Sulaiman for a discussion panel on "Managing Investment Across the Project Life Cycle" on Wednesday, October 26th. The meeting is scheduled from 6:30 to 9:00 PM.
 
Topic:
Managing Investment Across the Project Life Cycle
 
Description:
Scott Came, Monica Yap, and Tamara Sulaiman will be conducting a panel discussion about managing investment in projects from conception to delivery. Scott will discuss how enterprise architecture can be used as a mechanism to guide enterprise technology investment planning, and will illustrate how state government is doing so.  Scott will also touch on SOA, and how to view technology investments as the provisioning of capabilities rather than technologies per se. Monica Yap will be discussing how her project teams are meeting investment costs through lean development methods and portfolio P&L (profit & loss) to validate business value. Tamara Sulaiman will discuss how she manages earned value by applying waterfall calculation techniques to agile projects.
 
Meeting Location:
 Microsoft Campus - Building 43, Room 1560
 Jefferson Room
 Redmond,WA
 Map: http://research.microsoft.com/projects/gridforum/campus.gif
 
We look forward to seeing you there,
 Chris Sterling
 Chapter President
 International Association of Software Architects

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#28 From: "Tamara Sulaiman" <tsulaiman@...>
Date: Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:01 pm
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Monica,

Sounds great!  When is the next meeting?

Tamara

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Message: 1
    Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:11:29 -0000
    From: "Monica Yap" <monica.yap@...>
Subject: Future meeting place

Hi All,

I got the go ahead from company to host any future APLN meetings.  We
have a conference room which can host 15 people max, with projector
and white board.  Good Washington Lake view too.

We are located in downtown Kirkland (401 Park Place, Kikland, WA
98033), it is about 10 -15 min from Microsoft campus, depends on
traffic.

Since none of the online mapping site do a good job of mapping this
address, so here is one close to it, I know it is for TGIF, but our
office is right above in the same building.  We can always go for beer
after the meeting downstairs.

http://maps.google.com/local?q=Fridays&btnG=Search&sll=47.681667%2C-12
2.207500&sspn=0.163186%2C0.459366&f=q&hl=en&latlng=47681667,-122207500
,15948351282357340182

Let me know if this will work.

Cheers,
Monica Yap
Head of Group Development
Wireless Data Services Global
www.wdsglobal.com
monica.yap@...
Office  +1 425 947 3862
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#27 From: "Tamara Sulaiman" <tsulaiman@...>
Date: Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:01 pm
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Message: 1
    Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:11:29 -0000
    From: "Monica Yap" <monica.yap@...>
Subject: Future meeting place

Hi All,

I got the go ahead from company to host any future APLN meetings.  We
have a conference room which can host 15 people max, with projector
and white board.  Good Washington Lake view too.

We are located in downtown Kirkland (401 Park Place, Kikland, WA
98033), it is about 10 -15 min from Microsoft campus, depends on
traffic.

Since none of the online mapping site do a good job of mapping this
address, so here is one close to it, I know it is for TGIF, but our
office is right above in the same building.  We can always go for beer
after the meeting downstairs.

http://maps.google.com/local?q=Fridays&btnG=Search&sll=47.681667%2C-12
2.207500&sspn=0.163186%2C0.459366&f=q&hl=en&latlng=47681667,-122207500
,15948351282357340182

Let me know if this will work.

Cheers,
Monica Yap
Head of Group Development
Wireless Data Services Global
www.wdsglobal.com
monica.yap@...
Office  +1 425 947 3862
Fax     +1 425 947 3801
Mobile +1 425 985 3067








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#26 From: "Monica Yap" <monica.yap@...>
Date: Fri Oct 21, 2005 10:11 pm
Subject: Future meeting place 		monica_yap
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Hi All,

I got the go ahead from company to host any future APLN meetings.  We
have a conference room which can host 15 people max, with projector
and white board.  Good Washington Lake view too.

We are located in downtown Kirkland (401 Park Place, Kikland, WA
98033), it is about 10 -15 min from Microsoft campus, depends on traffic.

Since none of the online mapping site do a good job of mapping this
address, so here is one close to it, I know it is for TGIF, but our
office is right above in the same building.  We can always go for beer
after the meeting downstairs.

http://maps.google.com/local?q=Fridays&btnG=Search&sll=47.681667%2C-122.207500&s\
spn=0.163186%2C0.459366&f=q&hl=en&latlng=47681667,-122207500,1594835128235734018\
2

Let me know if this will work.

Cheers,
Monica Yap
Head of Group Development
Wireless Data Services Global
www.wdsglobal.com
monica.yap@...
Office  +1 425 947 3862
Fax     +1 425 947 3801
Mobile +1 425 985 3067

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#25 From: "David J Anderson" <netherby_uk@...>
Date: Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:03 am
Subject: Re: Seattle APLN October Meeting 		netherby_uk
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I need to send my belated apologies for not making it. My
participation in the local APLN this fall will be minimal, I've got
some family issues to deal with which are top priority. I've cancelled
all my travel and speaking engagements through until the spring of
next year.

I am available to take APLN related questions via email at my
Microsoft account, david.anderson@... and I will be happy to
pass on any requests that you have to the board or the core active
members working on the central programs.

Best regards,

David

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> When: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 5:30 PM-7:00 PM (GMT-08:00) Pacific
Time (US & Canada); Tijuana.
> Where: 112 Cafe
>
> *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
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> Bldg 112 is in Cedar Park
> Off 148th, between I-520 and NE 40th.
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> 206.228.3544 is my mobile if you get lost.
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#24 From: "Mitch Lacey" <mitch.lacey@...>
Date: Sat Oct 15, 2005 1:58 am
Subject: RE: Goals of the local APLN 		mglacey
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I've added a reading list, in the "database" section on the site.

I'll comment more later, I'm going home.

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From: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com [mailto:apln-sea@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Ade Miller
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 6:23 PM
To: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [apln-sea] Goals of the local APLN

Hi All,

At this week's APLN meeting several people asked what the aims of the
local Seattle group were. I thought I'd put a few ideas forward as to
what I'd like to see the group doing, see if people thought these were
good and to kick start a discussion

At the first meeting David refered to the APLN as a Craft Guild . This
is my first and foremost interest. I'm lucky in that there are quite a
few more experienced agile people were I work but, firstly, I really
value outside opinions, and secondly, I'd like to share what (little) I
know with others. If APLN simply provided a mechanism to converse with
other agile practisioners on a regular basis and share ideas that would
make me very happy.

Obviously we could just get together for a beer once a month and talk
but it would be nice to set than within a framework of other activities.
Things that come to mind are;

Speakers every few months - I don't think a speak every month is
desirable. There are other local groups, e.g. Seattle XP, and only a
finite number of speakers. Periodically having someone come talk would
be a great focus.

Member's Stories - An informal speaker talking about their current agile
project, and maybe getting feedback from the group. I've been to a
couple of Seattle XP sessions like this and they were very informative.

Reading Group - I've never done one of these but it seems like a
reasonable idea. Pick a book read it and have a discussion around it,
either online or at a meeting.

The other thing that was mentioned was growing the APLN community . I
think the APLN should aim to provide a starting point for someone who
has heard about or read a book some sort of agile process and for people
who are going it alone and want a helping hand.

Resources online - Brent already made a good start on this.

Open meetings - Make sure the APLN meetings are open to everyone and
announce them as such.

Other Groups - Take to other groups, like Seattle XP and the local .NET
UG, and make sure their members know we exist and that we'd be a good
place to go for other type agile things (e.g. I want to layer Scrum on
top of my XP team, who can help me).

Attend local events - Maybe in the future we could have a presence at
local software conferences etc.

Please share your thoughts...

Cheers,

Ade


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#23 From: "Ade Miller" <ade.miller@...>
Date: Sat Oct 15, 2005 1:23 am
Subject: Goals of the local APLN 		ade5miller
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Hi All,

At this week's APLN meeting several people asked what the aims of the local
Seattle group were. I thought I'd put a few ideas forward as to what I'd like to
see the group doing, see if people thought these were good and to kick start a
discussion

At the first meeting David refered to the APLN as a Craft Guild . This is my
first and foremost interest. I'm lucky in that there are quite a few more
experienced agile people were I work but, firstly, I really value outside
opinions, and secondly, I'd like to share what (little) I know with others. If
APLN simply provided a mechanism to converse with other agile practisioners on a
regular basis and share ideas that would make me very happy.

Obviously we could just get together for a beer once a month and talk but it
would be nice to set than within a framework of other activities. Things that
come to mind are;

Speakers every few months - I don't think a speak every month is desirable.
There are other local groups, e.g. Seattle XP, and only a finite number of
speakers. Periodically having someone come talk would be a great focus.

Member's Stories - An informal speaker talking about their current agile
project, and maybe getting feedback from the group. I've been to a couple of
Seattle XP sessions like this and they were very informative.

Reading Group - I've never done one of these but it seems like a reasonable
idea. Pick a book read it and have a discussion around it, either online or at a
meeting.

The other thing that was mentioned was growing the APLN community . I think the
APLN should aim to provide a starting point for someone who has heard about or
read a book some sort of agile process and for people who are going it alone and
want a helping hand.

Resources online - Brent already made a good start on this.

Open meetings - Make sure the APLN meetings are open to everyone and announce
them as such.

Other Groups - Take to other groups, like Seattle XP and the local .NET UG, and
make sure their members know we exist and that we'd be a good place to go for
other type agile things (e.g. I want to layer Scrum on top of my XP team, who
can help me).

Attend local events - Maybe in the future we could have a presence at local
software conferences etc.

Please share your thoughts...

Cheers,

Ade


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Tools for Office
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results - Albert Einstein

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#22 From: "brentbarton" <bbarton@...>
Date: Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:28 pm
Subject: William Wake's one page Scrum diagram 		brentbarton
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I uploaded the one page Scrum Mitch described Tuesday evening.

Brent

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#21 From: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:24 pm
Subject: New file uploaded to apln-sea 		apln-sea@yahoogroups.com
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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the apln-sea
group.

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   Description : Colin Powell on Leadership

You can access this file at the URL:
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#20 From: "brentbarton" <bbarton@...>
Date: Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:23 pm
Subject: Colin Powell on Leadership 		brentbarton
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I posted this to the "Files" section of this group.  This is one of my
favorite nuggets.  I find it completely relevant to what leadership is
in cross-functional teams, the inverted structure of Agile
organizations and the amount of infomormation required to start a
project successfully.

P= 40 - 70 was abominal to me as a mathematician but as I let it
settle, I realized this is the answer to the requirements definition
problem.  Less than 40% of the requirements may be too risky...more
than 70% is not advised.

Brent Barton

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#19 From: "David Socha" <socha@...>
Date: Wed Oct 12, 2005 4:57 am
Subject: APLN and sustainability 		davidgsocha
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For those of you who showed up tonight and listened to and discussed my thoughts on sustainability - thanks.  Let me know if you are interested in working with me on crafting some wording that may work for adding sustainability to the APLN Declaration of Interdependence.
 
Here's the references I said I'd send out about The Natural Step:
 
A nice story of how Karl-Henrik Robert created The Natural Step in 1989 and it's first decade of evolution is found in
The Natural Step Story : Seeding a Quiet Revolution (Conscientious Commerce) (Hardcover)
by Karl-Henrik Robert
 
A more in depth coverage of the The Natural Step principles and business case studies is found in
The Natural Step for Business : Wealth, Ecology & the Evolutionary Corporation (Conscientious Commerce) (Paperback)
by Brian Nattrass, Mary Altomare
 
David Socha
Center for Urban Simulation and Policy Analysis
University of Washington
www.urbansim.org
206 616-4495
 

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#18 From: "Kevin Walsh" <kwalsh@...>
Date: Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:03 am
Subject: Declined: Seattle APLN October Meeting 		northstar_kcw
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Mitch,

Sorry, but I had to work this evening and was unable to get away for the APLN
meeting after all. I also cannot attend the ABN this month as it is the same day
as Joann's birthday (Oct. 19th). Let's sync up soon. I will stop by to say hi if
I can get away in time.

Kevin

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#17 From: "Kevin Walsh" <kwalsh@...>
Date: Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:51 pm
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#15 From: "Srikanth M. Naidu" <snaidu@...>
Date: Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:55 pm
Subject: Accepted: Seattle APLN October Meeting 		yesnaidu
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#14 From: "Osama Khalaf" <okhalaf@...>
Date: Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:53 pm
Subject: Accepted: Seattle APLN October Meeting 		okhalaf@...
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#13 From: "Mitch Lacey" <mitch.lacey@...>
Date: Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:57 pm
Subject: Seattle APLN October Meeting 		mglacey
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When: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 5:30 PM-7:00 PM (GMT-08:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada); Tijuana.
Where: 112 Cafe

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

Bldg 112 is in Cedar Park
Off 148th, between I-520 and NE 40th.

206.228.3544 is my mobile if you get lost.


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#12 From: "Mitch Lacey" <mitch.lacey@...>
Date: Fri Oct 7, 2005 12:46 am
Subject: Microsoft Campus Map 		mglacey
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See you 11-OCT 6pm, Bldg 112 Café..  Show early if you like, I’m sure Kevin will be there. J

 

West Campus Area Map


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#11 From: "Mitch Lacey" <mitch.lacey@...>
Date: Fri Oct 7, 2005 12:34 am
Subject: RE: Next Meeting 		mglacey
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Lets meet Tuesday, 11-OCT at Microsoft Building 112, Café at 6:00pm.

 

Can most everyone make that?

 

From: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com [mailto:apln-sea@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Lacey
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 5:13 PM
To: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com; Kevin Walsh
Cc: rodsattr@...; ferrante@...; Iain Mulholland; okhalaf@...; Bart Hsu; dandes@...; Alfredo Mendez; Chris Boyd; bernret@...; Ade Miller; hanlch@...; Malcolm Anderson (Excell Data Corporation); David Horne; meerdink@...; prabhupr70@...; Ward Cunningham
Subject: RE: [apln-sea] Next Meeting

 

Agile beer night is 19-OCT, in two weeks.  We’re meeting next week. J

 

 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 5:10 PM
To: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com; Kevin Walsh
Cc: rodsattr@...; ferrante@...; Iain Mulholland; okhalaf@...; Bart Hsu; dandes@...; Alfredo Mendez; Chris Boyd; bernret@...; Ade Miller; hanlch@...; Malcolm Anderson (Excell Data Corporation); David Horne; meerdink@...; prabhupr70@...; Ward Cunningham
Subject: RE: [apln-sea] Next Meeting

 

I have a very *slight* preference for Tuesday.

 

If we meet early on Wednesday, we could join the Agile Beer Night at 6pm.....

 

David

 

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Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 4:26 PM
To: Kevin Walsh; apln-sea@yahoogroups.com
Cc: rodsattr@...; ferrante@...; Iain Mulholland; okhalaf@...; Bart Hsu; dandes@...; Alfredo Mendez; Chris Boyd; bernret@...; Ade Miller; hanlch@...; Malcolm Anderson (Excell Data Corporation); David Horne; meerdink@...; prabhupr70@...; Ward Cunningham
Subject: RE: [apln-sea] Next Meeting

Lets meet there. 

 

Does anyone have a preference?  I’m thinking Tuesday or Wednesday.

 

From: Kevin Walsh
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 4:21 PM
To: Mitch Lacey; apln-sea@yahoogroups.com
Cc: rodsattr@...; ferrante@...; Iain Mulholland; okhalaf@...; Bart Hsu; dandes@...; Alfredo Mendez; Chris Boyd; bernret@...; Ade Miller; hanlch@...; Malcolm Anderson (Excell Data Corporation); David Horne; meerdink@...; prabhupr70@...; Ward Cunningham
Subject: RE: [apln-sea] Next Meeting

 

As I think I shared with everyone when we first discussed meeting in one of the cafeterias – Bldg. 112 is perfect for three reasons: 1) There is complete visibility for people who do not have MS badges 2) The Bldg. 112 cafeteria is open and is usually empty after hours 3) It is easy to get to Red Robin from there – turn left onto 148th, go over the freeway, get in the second left turn lane, turn left at the first light and make an immediate right into the Red Robin parking area. I certainly look forward to continuing our discussion if I can make it that evening.

 

Kevin

 

From: Mitch Lacey
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 2:55 PM
To: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com
Cc: rodsattr@...; ferrante@...; Iain Mulholland; okhalaf@...; Bart Hsu; dandes@...; Alfredo Mendez; Chris Boyd; Kevin Walsh; bernret@...; Ade Miller; hanlch@...; Malcolm Anderson (Excell Data Corporation); David Horne; meerdink@...; prabhupr70@yahoo.com; Ward Cunningham
Subject: RE: [apln-sea] Next Meeting

 

I’m game.  Let me see if I can find a friendly building.

 

Cafeteria in 117 comes to mind as you can easily enter from the outside.

 

Anyone else in the co think of a good building?  Maybe 112/113?

 

Also, if you’ve not joined the apln alias, you can email the subscription alias, apln-sea-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

 

From: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com [mailto:apln-sea@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Socha
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 2:43 PM
To: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com
Cc: rodsattr@...; ferrante@...; Iain Mulholland; okhalaf@...; Bart Hsu; dandes@...; Alfredo Mendez; Chris Boyd; Kevin Walsh; bernret@...; Ade Miller; hanlch@...; David Socha; Malcolm Anderson (Excell Data Corporation); David Horne; meerdink@...; prabhupr70@yahoo.com; Ward Cunningham
Subject: RE: [apln-sea] Next Meeting

 

Mitch and all (I've cc'ed the people who signed their email addresses last meeting),

 

I'd prefer to have a meeting next week - even if it is a 1/2 hour meeting before dinner, because I have a topic that I'd like to discuss with you all.  Perhaps we could meet on the Microsoft campus again, if that's much easier to organize?

 

I'm a bit reluctant to describe my topic in email, since I've discovered that it requires a bit of explanation, and I have not found a succinct and clear way to do this via print.  With that caveat, here's the basic idea.  I'd like to discuss whether we would like to augment the Declaration of Interdependence to include a value of sustainability.  There is nothing in the DOI that mentions ethics, the greater world good, or sustainability.  Yet when I think of project leadership and agile methodologies, they revolve around sustainability (for individuals, teams, projects, companies).  I'd like us to explicitly extend this focus to include societies and the world.  There are many reasons for this desire, which I'd be glad to go into in person.

 

After our last meeting, I mentioned this idea to the five people (Ade, Malcolm, Ward, Kevin, and Michael) at dinner.  They were all very interested - after I explained what I meant by "sustainability" and put it into a business context.  I'd like to continue that discussion at next week's meeting, and believe it would be much more effective to do so in a quieter place than Red Robin.

 

After that, having dinner and beers sounds great.

 

David Socha

Center for Urban Simulation and Policy Analysis

University of Washington

www.urbansim.org

206 616-4495

 

From: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com [mailto:apln-sea@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Lacey
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 8:10 AM
To: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [apln-sea] Next Meeting

OK, I admit it.  I have been slacking on my APLN duties.  I can come up with a million excuses, but in the end, they are just that, excuses. 

Our team is in a crunch and is pushing for a 10/21 deadline to have our stuff in our production environment.  Because of that, we broke one rule, “keep a sustainable pace” because we planned out our work and said “hmm, we’re screwed.  I guess we should not have experimented with least qualified implementer or mandatory 1.5h pairings”.  The experiment was well worth it (I will tell you about it sometime), however we are now paying the price with 10h days and 8h Saturdays.

All is not lost, however! 

A bunch of Microsoft folks are meeting at Red Robin on Wednesday, Oct 19 at 6pm for dinner and beers.  We call it Agile Beer Night.  It really is quite fun and gets good attendance. 

In lieu of a meeting this month, perhaps we rally around Red Robin and have a social?

Share your thoughts, lets see some responses!  J

-Mitch

 

 


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#10 From: "Mitch Lacey" <mitch.lacey@...>
Date: Thu Oct 6, 2005 12:12 am
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Agile beer night is 19-OCT, in two weeks.  We’re meeting next week. J

 

 

 

From: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com [mailto:apln-sea@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Socha
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 5:10 PM
To: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com; Kevin Walsh
Cc: rodsattr@...; ferrante@...; Iain Mulholland; okhalaf@...; Bart Hsu; dandes@...; Alfredo Mendez; Chris Boyd; bernret@...; Ade Miller; hanlch@...; Malcolm Anderson (Excell Data Corporation); David Horne; meerdink@...; prabhupr70@...; Ward Cunningham
Subject: RE: [apln-sea] Next Meeting

 

I have a very *slight* preference for Tuesday.

 

If we meet early on Wednesday, we could join the Agile Beer Night at 6pm.....

 

David

 

From: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com [mailto:apln-sea@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Lacey
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 4:26 PM
To: Kevin Walsh; apln-sea@yahoogroups.com
Cc: rodsattr@...; ferrante@...; Iain Mulholland; okhalaf@...; Bart Hsu; dandes@...; Alfredo Mendez; Chris Boyd; bernret@...; Ade Miller; hanlch@...; Malcolm Anderson (Excell Data Corporation); David Horne; meerdink@...; prabhupr70@...; Ward Cunningham
Subject: RE: [apln-sea] Next Meeting

Lets meet there. 

 

Does anyone have a preference?  I’m thinking Tuesday or Wednesday.

 

From: Kevin Walsh
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 4:21 PM
To: Mitch Lacey; apln-sea@yahoogroups.com
Cc: rodsattr@...; ferrante@...; Iain Mulholland; okhalaf@...; Bart Hsu; dandes@...; Alfredo Mendez; Chris Boyd; bernret@...; Ade Miller; hanlch@...; Malcolm Anderson (Excell Data Corporation); David Horne; meerdink@...; prabhupr70@...; Ward Cunningham
Subject: RE: [apln-sea] Next Meeting

 

As I think I shared with everyone when we first discussed meeting in one of the cafeterias – Bldg. 112 is perfect for three reasons: 1) There is complete visibility for people who do not have MS badges 2) The Bldg. 112 cafeteria is open and is usually empty after hours 3) It is easy to get to Red Robin from there – turn left onto 148th, go over the freeway, get in the second left turn lane, turn left at the first light and make an immediate right into the Red Robin parking area. I certainly look forward to continuing our discussion if I can make it that evening.

 

Kevin

 

From: Mitch Lacey
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 2:55 PM
To: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com
Cc: rodsattr@...; ferrante@...; Iain Mulholland; okhalaf@...; Bart Hsu; dandes@...; Alfredo Mendez; Chris Boyd; Kevin Walsh; bernret@...; Ade Miller; hanlch@...; Malcolm Anderson (Excell Data Corporation); David Horne; meerdink@...; prabhupr70@yahoo.com; Ward Cunningham
Subject: RE: [apln-sea] Next Meeting

 

I’m game.  Let me see if I can find a friendly building.

 

Cafeteria in 117 comes to mind as you can easily enter from the outside.

 

Anyone else in the co think of a good building?  Maybe 112/113?

 

Also, if you’ve not joined the apln alias, you can email the subscription alias, apln-sea-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

 

From: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com [mailto:apln-sea@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Socha
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 2:43 PM
To: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com
Cc: rodsattr@...; ferrante@...; Iain Mulholland; okhalaf@...; Bart Hsu; dandes@...; Alfredo Mendez; Chris Boyd; Kevin Walsh; bernret@...; Ade Miller; hanlch@...; David Socha; Malcolm Anderson (Excell Data Corporation); David Horne; meerdink@...; prabhupr70@yahoo.com; Ward Cunningham
Subject: RE: [apln-sea] Next Meeting

 

Mitch and all (I've cc'ed the people who signed their email addresses last meeting),

 

I'd prefer to have a meeting next week - even if it is a 1/2 hour meeting before dinner, because I have a topic that I'd like to discuss with you all.  Perhaps we could meet on the Microsoft campus again, if that's much easier to organize?

 

I'm a bit reluctant to describe my topic in email, since I've discovered that it requires a bit of explanation, and I have not found a succinct and clear way to do this via print.  With that caveat, here's the basic idea.  I'd like to discuss whether we would like to augment the Declaration of Interdependence to include a value of sustainability.  There is nothing in the DOI that mentions ethics, the greater world good, or sustainability.  Yet when I think of project leadership and agile methodologies, they revolve around sustainability (for individuals, teams, projects, companies).  I'd like us to explicitly extend this focus to include societies and the world.  There are many reasons for this desire, which I'd be glad to go into in person.

 

After our last meeting, I mentioned this idea to the five people (Ade, Malcolm, Ward, Kevin, and Michael) at dinner.  They were all very interested - after I explained what I meant by "sustainability" and put it into a business context.  I'd like to continue that discussion at next week's meeting, and believe it would be much more effective to do so in a quieter place than Red Robin.

 

After that, having dinner and beers sounds great.

 

David Socha

Center for Urban Simulation and Policy Analysis

University of Washington

www.urbansim.org

206 616-4495

 

From: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com [mailto:apln-sea@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Lacey
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 8:10 AM
To: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [apln-sea] Next Meeting

OK, I admit it.  I have been slacking on my APLN duties.  I can come up with a million excuses, but in the end, they are just that, excuses. 

Our team is in a crunch and is pushing for a 10/21 deadline to have our stuff in our production environment.  Because of that, we broke one rule, “keep a sustainable pace” because we planned out our work and said “hmm, we’re screwed.  I guess we should not have experimented with least qualified implementer or mandatory 1.5h pairings”.  The experiment was well worth it (I will tell you about it sometime), however we are now paying the price with 10h days and 8h Saturdays.

All is not lost, however! 

A bunch of Microsoft folks are meeting at Red Robin on Wednesday, Oct 19 at 6pm for dinner and beers.  We call it Agile Beer Night.  It really is quite fun and gets good attendance. 

In lieu of a meeting this month, perhaps we rally around Red Robin and have a social?

Share your thoughts, lets see some responses!  J

-Mitch

 

 


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#9 From: "David Socha" <socha@...>
Date: Thu Oct 6, 2005 12:10 am
Subject: RE: Next Meeting 		davidgsocha
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I have a very *slight* preference for Tuesday.
 
If we meet early on Wednesday, we could join the Agile Beer Night at 6pm.....
 
David

From: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com [mailto:apln-sea@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Lacey
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 4:26 PM
To: Kevin Walsh; apln-sea@yahoogroups.com
Cc: rodsattr@...; ferrante@...; Iain Mulholland; okhalaf@...; Bart Hsu; dandes@...; Alfredo Mendez; Chris Boyd; bernret@...; Ade Miller; hanlch@...; Malcolm Anderson (Excell Data Corporation); David Horne; meerdink@...; prabhupr70@...; Ward Cunningham
Subject: RE: [apln-sea] Next Meeting

Lets meet there. 

 

Does anyone have a preference?  I’m thinking Tuesday or Wednesday.

 

From: Kevin Walsh
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 4:21 PM
To: Mitch Lacey; apln-sea@yahoogroups.com
Cc: rodsattr@...; ferrante@...; Iain Mulholland; okhalaf@...; Bart Hsu; dandes@...; Alfredo Mendez; Chris Boyd; bernret@...; Ade Miller; hanlch@...; Malcolm Anderson (Excell Data Corporation); David Horne; meerdink@...; prabhupr70@...; Ward Cunningham
Subject: RE: [apln-sea] Next Meeting

 

As I think I shared with everyone when we first discussed meeting in one of the cafeterias – Bldg. 112 is perfect for three reasons: 1) There is complete visibility for people who do not have MS badges 2) The Bldg. 112 cafeteria is open and is usually empty after hours 3) It is easy to get to Red Robin from there – turn left onto 148th, go over the freeway, get in the second left turn lane, turn left at the first light and make an immediate right into the Red Robin parking area. I certainly look forward to continuing our discussion if I can make it that evening.

 

Kevin

 

From: Mitch Lacey
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 2:55 PM
To: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com
Cc: rodsattr@...; ferrante@...; Iain Mulholland; okhalaf@...; Bart Hsu; dandes@...; Alfredo Mendez; Chris Boyd; Kevin Walsh; bernret@...; Ade Miller; hanlch@...; Malcolm Anderson (Excell Data Corporation); David Horne; meerdink@...; prabhupr70@yahoo.com; Ward Cunningham
Subject: RE: [apln-sea] Next Meeting

 

I’m game.  Let me see if I can find a friendly building.

 

Cafeteria in 117 comes to mind as you can easily enter from the outside.

 

Anyone else in the co think of a good building?  Maybe 112/113?

 

Also, if you’ve not joined the apln alias, you can email the subscription alias, apln-sea-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

 

From: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com [mailto:apln-sea@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Socha
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 2:43 PM
To: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com
Cc: rodsattr@...; ferrante@...; Iain Mulholland; okhalaf@...; Bart Hsu; dandes@...; Alfredo Mendez; Chris Boyd; Kevin Walsh; bernret@...; Ade Miller; hanlch@...; David Socha; Malcolm Anderson (Excell Data Corporation); David Horne; meerdink@...; prabhupr70@yahoo.com; Ward Cunningham
Subject: RE: [apln-sea] Next Meeting

 

Mitch and all (I've cc'ed the people who signed their email addresses last meeting),

 

I'd prefer to have a meeting next week - even if it is a 1/2 hour meeting before dinner, because I have a topic that I'd like to discuss with you all.  Perhaps we could meet on the Microsoft campus again, if that's much easier to organize?

 

I'm a bit reluctant to describe my topic in email, since I've discovered that it requires a bit of explanation, and I have not found a succinct and clear way to do this via print.  With that caveat, here's the basic idea.  I'd like to discuss whether we would like to augment the Declaration of Interdependence to include a value of sustainability.  There is nothing in the DOI that mentions ethics, the greater world good, or sustainability.  Yet when I think of project leadership and agile methodologies, they revolve around sustainability (for individuals, teams, projects, companies).  I'd like us to explicitly extend this focus to include societies and the world.  There are many reasons for this desire, which I'd be glad to go into in person.

 

After our last meeting, I mentioned this idea to the five people (Ade, Malcolm, Ward, Kevin, and Michael) at dinner.  They were all very interested - after I explained what I meant by "sustainability" and put it into a business context.  I'd like to continue that discussion at next week's meeting, and believe it would be much more effective to do so in a quieter place than Red Robin.

 

After that, having dinner and beers sounds great.

 

David Socha

Center for Urban Simulation and Policy Analysis

University of Washington

www.urbansim.org

206 616-4495

 

From: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com [mailto:apln-sea@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Lacey
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 8:10 AM
To: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [apln-sea] Next Meeting

OK, I admit it.  I have been slacking on my APLN duties.  I can come up with a million excuses, but in the end, they are just that, excuses. 

Our team is in a crunch and is pushing for a 10/21 deadline to have our stuff in our production environment.  Because of that, we broke one rule, “keep a sustainable pace” because we planned out our work and said “hmm, we’re screwed.  I guess we should not have experimented with least qualified implementer or mandatory 1.5h pairings”.  The experiment was well worth it (I will tell you about it sometime), however we are now paying the price with 10h days and 8h Saturdays.

All is not lost, however! 

A bunch of Microsoft folks are meeting at Red Robin on Wednesday, Oct 19 at 6pm for dinner and beers.  We call it Agile Beer Night.  It really is quite fun and gets good attendance. 

In lieu of a meeting this month, perhaps we rally around Red Robin and have a social?

Share your thoughts, lets see some responses!  J

-Mitch

 


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#8 From: "Mitch Lacey" <mitch.lacey@...>
Date: Wed Oct 5, 2005 11:26 pm
Subject: RE: Next Meeting 		mglacey
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Lets meet there. 

 

Does anyone have a preference?  I’m thinking Tuesday or Wednesday.

 

From: Kevin Walsh
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 4:21 PM
To: Mitch Lacey; apln-sea@yahoogroups.com
Cc: rodsattr@...; ferrante@...; Iain Mulholland; okhalaf@...; Bart Hsu; dandes@...; Alfredo Mendez; Chris Boyd; bernret@...; Ade Miller; hanlch@...; Malcolm Anderson (Excell Data Corporation); David Horne; meerdink@...; prabhupr70@...; Ward Cunningham
Subject: RE: [apln-sea] Next Meeting

 

As I think I shared with everyone when we first discussed meeting in one of the cafeterias – Bldg. 112 is perfect for three reasons: 1) There is complete visibility for people who do not have MS badges 2) The Bldg. 112 cafeteria is open and is usually empty after hours 3) It is easy to get to Red Robin from there – turn left onto 148th, go over the freeway, get in the second left turn lane, turn left at the first light and make an immediate right into the Red Robin parking area. I certainly look forward to continuing our discussion if I can make it that evening.

 

Kevin

 

From: Mitch Lacey
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 2:55 PM
To: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com
Cc: rodsattr@...; ferrante@...; Iain Mulholland; okhalaf@...; Bart Hsu; dandes@...; Alfredo Mendez; Chris Boyd; Kevin Walsh; bernret@...; Ade Miller; hanlch@...; Malcolm Anderson (Excell Data Corporation); David Horne; meerdink@...; prabhupr70@yahoo.com; Ward Cunningham
Subject: RE: [apln-sea] Next Meeting

 

I’m game.  Let me see if I can find a friendly building.

 

Cafeteria in 117 comes to mind as you can easily enter from the outside.

 

Anyone else in the co think of a good building?  Maybe 112/113?

 

Also, if you’ve not joined the apln alias, you can email the subscription alias, apln-sea-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

 

From: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com [mailto:apln-sea@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Socha
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 2:43 PM
To: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com
Cc: rodsattr@...; ferrante@...; Iain Mulholland; okhalaf@...; Bart Hsu; dandes@...; Alfredo Mendez; Chris Boyd; Kevin Walsh; bernret@...; Ade Miller; hanlch@...; David Socha; Malcolm Anderson (Excell Data Corporation); David Horne; meerdink@...; prabhupr70@yahoo.com; Ward Cunningham
Subject: RE: [apln-sea] Next Meeting

 

Mitch and all (I've cc'ed the people who signed their email addresses last meeting),

 

I'd prefer to have a meeting next week - even if it is a 1/2 hour meeting before dinner, because I have a topic that I'd like to discuss with you all.  Perhaps we could meet on the Microsoft campus again, if that's much easier to organize?

 

I'm a bit reluctant to describe my topic in email, since I've discovered that it requires a bit of explanation, and I have not found a succinct and clear way to do this via print.  With that caveat, here's the basic idea.  I'd like to discuss whether we would like to augment the Declaration of Interdependence to include a value of sustainability.  There is nothing in the DOI that mentions ethics, the greater world good, or sustainability.  Yet when I think of project leadership and agile methodologies, they revolve around sustainability (for individuals, teams, projects, companies).  I'd like us to explicitly extend this focus to include societies and the world.  There are many reasons for this desire, which I'd be glad to go into in person.

 

After our last meeting, I mentioned this idea to the five people (Ade, Malcolm, Ward, Kevin, and Michael) at dinner.  They were all very interested - after I explained what I meant by "sustainability" and put it into a business context.  I'd like to continue that discussion at next week's meeting, and believe it would be much more effective to do so in a quieter place than Red Robin.

 

After that, having dinner and beers sounds great.

 

David Socha

Center for Urban Simulation and Policy Analysis

University of Washington

www.urbansim.org

206 616-4495

 

From: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com [mailto:apln-sea@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Lacey
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 8:10 AM
To: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [apln-sea] Next Meeting

OK, I admit it.  I have been slacking on my APLN duties.  I can come up with a million excuses, but in the end, they are just that, excuses. 

Our team is in a crunch and is pushing for a 10/21 deadline to have our stuff in our production environment.  Because of that, we broke one rule, “keep a sustainable pace” because we planned out our work and said “hmm, we’re screwed.  I guess we should not have experimented with least qualified implementer or mandatory 1.5h pairings”.  The experiment was well worth it (I will tell you about it sometime), however we are now paying the price with 10h days and 8h Saturdays.

All is not lost, however! 

A bunch of Microsoft folks are meeting at Red Robin on Wednesday, Oct 19 at 6pm for dinner and beers.  We call it Agile Beer Night.  It really is quite fun and gets good attendance. 

In lieu of a meeting this month, perhaps we rally around Red Robin and have a social?

Share your thoughts, lets see some responses!  J

-Mitch

 


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#7 From: "Kevin Walsh" <kwalsh@...>
Date: Wed Oct 5, 2005 11:21 pm
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As I think I shared with everyone when we first discussed meeting in one of the cafeterias – Bldg. 112 is perfect for three reasons: 1) There is complete visibility for people who do not have MS badges 2) The Bldg. 112 cafeteria is open and is usually empty after hours 3) It is easy to get to Red Robin from there – turn left onto 148th, go over the freeway, get in the second left turn lane, turn left at the first light and make an immediate right into the Red Robin parking area. I certainly look forward to continuing our discussion if I can make it that evening.

 

Kevin

 

From: Mitch Lacey
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 2:55 PM
To: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com
Cc: rodsattr@...; ferrante@...; Iain Mulholland; okhalaf@...; Bart Hsu; dandes@...; Alfredo Mendez; Chris Boyd; Kevin Walsh; bernret@...; Ade Miller; hanlch@...; Malcolm Anderson (Excell Data Corporation); David Horne; meerdink@...; prabhupr70@yahoo.com; Ward Cunningham
Subject: RE: [apln-sea] Next Meeting

 

I’m game.  Let me see if I can find a friendly building.

 

Cafeteria in 117 comes to mind as you can easily enter from the outside.

 

Anyone else in the co think of a good building?  Maybe 112/113?

 

Also, if you’ve not joined the apln alias, you can email the subscription alias, apln-sea-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

 

From: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com [mailto:apln-sea@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Socha
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 2:43 PM
To: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com
Cc: rodsattr@...; ferrante@...; Iain Mulholland; okhalaf@...; Bart Hsu; dandes@...; Alfredo Mendez; Chris Boyd; Kevin Walsh; bernret@...; Ade Miller; hanlch@...; David Socha; Malcolm Anderson (Excell Data Corporation); David Horne; meerdink@...; prabhupr70@yahoo.com; Ward Cunningham
Subject: RE: [apln-sea] Next Meeting

 

Mitch and all (I've cc'ed the people who signed their email addresses last meeting),

 

I'd prefer to have a meeting next week - even if it is a 1/2 hour meeting before dinner, because I have a topic that I'd like to discuss with you all.  Perhaps we could meet on the Microsoft campus again, if that's much easier to organize?

 

I'm a bit reluctant to describe my topic in email, since I've discovered that it requires a bit of explanation, and I have not found a succinct and clear way to do this via print.  With that caveat, here's the basic idea.  I'd like to discuss whether we would like to augment the Declaration of Interdependence to include a value of sustainability.  There is nothing in the DOI that mentions ethics, the greater world good, or sustainability.  Yet when I think of project leadership and agile methodologies, they revolve around sustainability (for individuals, teams, projects, companies).  I'd like us to explicitly extend this focus to include societies and the world.  There are many reasons for this desire, which I'd be glad to go into in person.

 

After our last meeting, I mentioned this idea to the five people (Ade, Malcolm, Ward, Kevin, and Michael) at dinner.  They were all very interested - after I explained what I meant by "sustainability" and put it into a business context.  I'd like to continue that discussion at next week's meeting, and believe it would be much more effective to do so in a quieter place than Red Robin.

 

After that, having dinner and beers sounds great.

 

David Socha

Center for Urban Simulation and Policy Analysis

University of Washington

www.urbansim.org

206 616-4495

 

From: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com [mailto:apln-sea@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Lacey
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 8:10 AM
To: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [apln-sea] Next Meeting

OK, I admit it.  I have been slacking on my APLN duties.  I can come up with a million excuses, but in the end, they are just that, excuses. 

Our team is in a crunch and is pushing for a 10/21 deadline to have our stuff in our production environment.  Because of that, we broke one rule, “keep a sustainable pace” because we planned out our work and said “hmm, we’re screwed.  I guess we should not have experimented with least qualified implementer or mandatory 1.5h pairings”.  The experiment was well worth it (I will tell you about it sometime), however we are now paying the price with 10h days and 8h Saturdays.

All is not lost, however! 

A bunch of Microsoft folks are meeting at Red Robin on Wednesday, Oct 19 at 6pm for dinner and beers.  We call it Agile Beer Night.  It really is quite fun and gets good attendance. 

In lieu of a meeting this month, perhaps we rally around Red Robin and have a social?

Share your thoughts, lets see some responses!  J

-Mitch

 


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#6 From: "Mitch Lacey" <mitch.lacey@...>
Date: Wed Oct 5, 2005 9:54 pm
Subject: RE: Next Meeting 		mglacey
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I’m game.  Let me see if I can find a friendly building.

 

Cafeteria in 117 comes to mind as you can easily enter from the outside.

 

Anyone else in the co think of a good building?  Maybe 112/113?

 

Also, if you’ve not joined the apln alias, you can email the subscription alias, apln-sea-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

 

From: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com [mailto:apln-sea@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Socha
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 2:43 PM
To: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com
Cc: rodsattr@...; ferrante@...; Iain Mulholland; okhalaf@...; Bart Hsu; dandes@...; Alfredo Mendez; Chris Boyd; Kevin Walsh; bernret@...; Ade Miller; hanlch@...; David Socha; Malcolm Anderson (Excell Data Corporation); David Horne; meerdink@...; prabhupr70@...; Ward Cunningham
Subject: RE: [apln-sea] Next Meeting

 

Mitch and all (I've cc'ed the people who signed their email addresses last meeting),

 

I'd prefer to have a meeting next week - even if it is a 1/2 hour meeting before dinner, because I have a topic that I'd like to discuss with you all.  Perhaps we could meet on the Microsoft campus again, if that's much easier to organize?

 

I'm a bit reluctant to describe my topic in email, since I've discovered that it requires a bit of explanation, and I have not found a succinct and clear way to do this via print.  With that caveat, here's the basic idea.  I'd like to discuss whether we would like to augment the Declaration of Interdependence to include a value of sustainability.  There is nothing in the DOI that mentions ethics, the greater world good, or sustainability.  Yet when I think of project leadership and agile methodologies, they revolve around sustainability (for individuals, teams, projects, companies).  I'd like us to explicitly extend this focus to include societies and the world.  There are many reasons for this desire, which I'd be glad to go into in person.

 

After our last meeting, I mentioned this idea to the five people (Ade, Malcolm, Ward, Kevin, and Michael) at dinner.  They were all very interested - after I explained what I meant by "sustainability" and put it into a business context.  I'd like to continue that discussion at next week's meeting, and believe it would be much more effective to do so in a quieter place than Red Robin.

 

After that, having dinner and beers sounds great.

 

David Socha

Center for Urban Simulation and Policy Analysis

University of Washington

www.urbansim.org

206 616-4495

 

From: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com [mailto:apln-sea@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Lacey
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Subject: [apln-sea] Next Meeting

OK, I admit it.  I have been slacking on my APLN duties.  I can come up with a million excuses, but in the end, they are just that, excuses. 

Our team is in a crunch and is pushing for a 10/21 deadline to have our stuff in our production environment.  Because of that, we broke one rule, “keep a sustainable pace” because we planned out our work and said “hmm, we’re screwed.  I guess we should not have experimented with least qualified implementer or mandatory 1.5h pairings”.  The experiment was well worth it (I will tell you about it sometime), however we are now paying the price with 10h days and 8h Saturdays.

All is not lost, however! 

A bunch of Microsoft folks are meeting at Red Robin on Wednesday, Oct 19 at 6pm for dinner and beers.  We call it Agile Beer Night.  It really is quite fun and gets good attendance. 

In lieu of a meeting this month, perhaps we rally around Red Robin and have a social?

Share your thoughts, lets see some responses!  J

-Mitch

 


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Mitch and all (I've cc'ed the people who signed their email addresses last meeting),
 
I'd prefer to have a meeting next week - even if it is a 1/2 hour meeting before dinner, because I have a topic that I'd like to discuss with you all.  Perhaps we could meet on the Microsoft campus again, if that's much easier to organize?
 
I'm a bit reluctant to describe my topic in email, since I've discovered that it requires a bit of explanation, and I have not found a succinct and clear way to do this via print.  With that caveat, here's the basic idea.  I'd like to discuss whether we would like to augment the Declaration of Interdependence to include a value of sustainability.  There is nothing in the DOI that mentions ethics, the greater world good, or sustainability.  Yet when I think of project leadership and agile methodologies, they revolve around sustainability (for individuals, teams, projects, companies).  I'd like us to explicitly extend this focus to include societies and the world.  There are many reasons for this desire, which I'd be glad to go into in person.
 
After our last meeting, I mentioned this idea to the five people (Ade, Malcolm, Ward, Kevin, and Michael) at dinner.  They were all very interested - after I explained what I meant by "sustainability" and put it into a business context.  I'd like to continue that discussion at next week's meeting, and believe it would be much more effective to do so in a quieter place than Red Robin.
 
After that, having dinner and beers sounds great.
 
David Socha
Center for Urban Simulation and Policy Analysis
University of Washington
www.urbansim.org
206 616-4495

From: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com [mailto:apln-sea@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Lacey
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 8:10 AM
To: apln-sea@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [apln-sea] Next Meeting

OK, I admit it.  I have been slacking on my APLN duties.  I can come up with a million excuses, but in the end, they are just that, excuses. 

Our team is in a crunch and is pushing for a 10/21 deadline to have our stuff in our production environment.  Because of that, we broke one rule, “keep a sustainable pace” because we planned out our work and said “hmm, we’re screwed.  I guess we should not have experimented with least qualified implementer or mandatory 1.5h pairings”.  The experiment was well worth it (I will tell you about it sometime), however we are now paying the price with 10h days and 8h Saturdays.

All is not lost, however! 

A bunch of Microsoft folks are meeting at Red Robin on Wednesday, Oct 19 at 6pm for dinner and beers.  We call it Agile Beer Night.  It really is quite fun and gets good attendance. 

In lieu of a meeting this month, perhaps we rally around Red Robin and have a social?

Share your thoughts, lets see some responses!  J

-Mitch


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#4 From: "Mitch Lacey" <mitch.lacey@...>
Date: Wed Oct 5, 2005 3:09 pm
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OK, I admit it.  I have been slacking on my APLN duties.  I can come up with a million excuses, but in the end, they are just that, excuses. 

Our team is in a crunch and is pushing for a 10/21 deadline to have our stuff in our production environment.  Because of that, we broke one rule, “keep a sustainable pace” because we planned out our work and said “hmm, we’re screwed.  I guess we should not have experimented with least qualified implementer or mandatory 1.5h pairings”.  The experiment was well worth it (I will tell you about it sometime), however we are now paying the price with 10h days and 8h Saturdays.

All is not lost, however! 

A bunch of Microsoft folks are meeting at Red Robin on Wednesday, Oct 19 at 6pm for dinner and beers.  We call it Agile Beer Night.  It really is quite fun and gets good attendance. 

In lieu of a meeting this month, perhaps we rally around Red Robin and have a social?

Share your thoughts, lets see some responses!  J

-Mitch


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Date: Wed Oct 5, 2005 2:31 am
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--- In apln-sea@yahoogroups.com, "Mitch Lacey" <mitch.lacey@m...>
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> Hi all.
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> I was looking into some places in Bellevue and the Bellevue Club
came up
> - they have a good space to meet and chat, are centrally located
near
> I-90, 405 & 520 and is right off main bus lines.
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> See the map for location.
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> Thoughts?
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> -Mitch
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#2 From: "Mitch Lacey" <mitch.lacey@...>
Date: Tue Oct 4, 2005 12:25 am
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Hi all.

I was looking into some places in Bellevue and the Bellevue Club came up – they have a good space to meet and chat, are centrally located near I-90, 405 & 520 and is right off main bus lines.

See the map for location.

Thoughts?

-Mitch

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#1 From: "Mitch Lacey" <mitch.lacey@...>
Date: Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:18 pm
Subject: The Real Reasons You're Working So Hard... 		mglacey
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I found this to be a good read and thought you’d enjoy it – some bells go off when you read it too. J

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/05_40/b3953601.htm

-Mitch


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