Welcome to the Breaking-Windows mail list. First some groundrules, and then a question. 1. What's on-topic for this mail list? Microsoft. 2. Assume that...
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Talking Moose
talkingmoose@...
Jul 21, 2001 6:23 pm
David, A friend passed me your book and I found it very interesting. Congrats on an excellent job. I wonder if you'd like to tell us what you think your book...
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Bank, David
david.bank@...
Jul 23, 2001 6:34 pm
Larry Lessig has an interesting piece in the latest Industry Standard. (The Limits Of Credibility: Microsoft got beat fair and square. ...
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David G. Goggin
david.goggin@...
Jul 27, 2001 12:24 pm
Thank you for such a great book, David. The book is so revealing that it qualifies as a public service. :-) It has, as Dave Weiner said, opened my eyes. I...
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david.bank@...
Jul 31, 2001 8:43 pm
... I don't think we disagree. I argued in the book that in many ways "the trial was the remedy," in that, with Microsoft's hands tied, many of its erstwhile...
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david.bank@...
Jul 31, 2001 8:46 pm
...and there's a link to this discussion site. spread the URL far and wide. David...
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Adam Barr
adam@...
Aug 5, 2001 7:30 pm
My review was just posted this morning: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/08/04/1524254 - adam...
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David G. Goggin
david.goggin@...
Aug 7, 2001 7:00 pm
Very valuable contribution, especially from a former employee and former (?) Windows hawk. Not working in the computer biz, perhaps you can tell me, is this ...
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david.bank@...
Aug 7, 2001 8:27 pm
The flap over Windows XP recalls the Silverberg-Allchin wrestling match over control of the browser team. There's a brief excerpt in today's Journal at ...
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Fernando Cassia
fcassia@...
Aug 8, 2001 1:46 am
Hi, I just discovered this list, (and the book of the same name) and right after entering the order on amazon.com (which included copies for me and several of...
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adam@...
Aug 8, 2001 3:40 pm
... try ... software ... I would say that almost all *successful* companies do it, although not all of them do it intentionally. "Lock in" or "network effects"...
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Chirag Patnaik
cpatnaik@...
Aug 8, 2001 5:13 pm
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Fernando Cassia
fcassia@...
Aug 9, 2001 11:49 pm
I hope your message does not show the level of discussion on this list. What a disappointment....
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Fernando Cassia
fcassia@...
Aug 9, 2001 11:58 pm
I don't agree. You can give customers a choice, and you will win them more than by "locking them". Take a look at IBM. I can run IBM's own DB2 database in my...
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Chirag Patnaik
cpatnaik@...
Aug 10, 2001 3:52 am
... I hope your message does not show the level of ... Without dragging this beyond this one reply. I just have one question "Were you discussing when you had...
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Chirag Patnaik
cpatnaik@...
Aug 10, 2001 3:52 am
... I hope your message does not show the level of ... Without dragging this beyond this one reply. I just have one question "Were you discussing when you had...
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Fernando Cassia
fcassia@...
Aug 10, 2001 6:04 am
Dear Chirag, I guess you had a bad day. ... So this is a "pissing contest", right? "you touch my loved company, I'll jump all over you"? Advertisement sig?....
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Chirag Patnaik
cpatnaik@...
Aug 10, 2001 7:12 pm
Since we are talking about ourselves and I love to boast
hands on
MS-DOS 1.0 (yes the one without sub directories), 3.0/5.0/6.2/6.22, Windows...
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Gerhard Poul
gpoul@...
Aug 11, 2001 2:31 pm
... IMHO this issue is also raised in "Breaking Windows" but I'd like to discuss this whole issue. Is / in which sense is Java open? Do you think C# is more...
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Fernando Cassia
fcassia@...
Aug 11, 2001 10:04 pm
Gerhard, Thanks for your question. Your question on "Java vs C#" is based on a common misunderstanding. Java is MUCH more than a programming language. It is...
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David Goggin
david.goggin@...
Aug 12, 2001 2:14 pm
Thanks for your reply, Adam, I appreciate it. I've been out of town so I'm just now replying. I can see how this client lock-in effect has played out and it's...
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adam@...
Aug 13, 2001 5:29 am
... them more ... all depends ... competition), or just ... operating system. Right, but how much extra work is it for IBM to do that. How many people run DB2...
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Dave Winer
dave@...
Aug 13, 2001 12:15 pm
... Because Microsoft is paying them all off, or because it doesn't make business sense to do so? Microsoft has been losing tons of developers to: 1. Java. 2....
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adam@...
Aug 13, 2001 2:44 pm
My point was that cross-platform development and Java are not magic, there are tradeoffs. Doing cross platform work means you have less time to focus on one...
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Fernando Cassia
fcassia@...
Aug 13, 2001 8:20 pm
... Say what you want, but the facts are that IBM products give them you a choice of operating systems, Microsoft products hardly do. ... They "incremental...
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Dave Winer
dave@...
Aug 14, 2001 5:23 am
A heads-up, we have received permission from the publisher and author of Breaking Windows, to run an excerpt tomorrow through DaveNet. This is the first time...
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dave@...
Aug 14, 2001 2:37 pm
DaveNet essay, "Excerpt from Breaking Windows", released on 8/14/2001; 7:34:08 AM Pacific. ... ***Introduction by Dave Winer In April I received an invitation...
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Addison Laurent
addison_laurent@...
Aug 14, 2001 4:11 pm
... because their ... to discuss ... Not being an expert, but from what I've seen - its more open in its documentation, its availibility. For instance, IBM has...
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David G. Goggin
david.goggin@...
Aug 14, 2001 5:17 pm
PMFJI, but I'd like to make a contrast between the view of IBM mentioned here and the one I grew up with -- granted that was 30-40 years ago, but it's still...
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Dave Winer
dave@...
Aug 14, 2001 5:22 pm
... Exactly. That's why I believe that if there is to be a new platform in the space occupied by Java and .NET it must come from an entity that's so small that...