My review was just posted this morning: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/08/04/1524254 - adam...
Adam Barr
adam@...
Aug 5, 2001 7:30 pm
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Very valuable contribution, especially from a former employee and former (?) Windows hawk. Not working in the computer biz, perhaps you can tell me, is this ...
David G. Goggin
david.goggin@...
Aug 7, 2001 7:00 pm
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The flap over Windows XP recalls the Silverberg-Allchin wrestling match over control of the browser team. There's a brief excerpt in today's Journal at ...
david.bank@...
Aug 7, 2001 8:27 pm
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Hi, I just discovered this list, (and the book of the same name) and right after entering the order on amazon.com (which included copies for me and several of...
Fernando Cassia
fcassia@...
Aug 8, 2001 1:46 am
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... try ... software ... I would say that almost all *successful* companies do it, although not all of them do it intentionally. "Lock in" or "network effects"...
adam@...
Aug 8, 2001 3:40 pm
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Chirag Patnaik
cpatnaik@...
Aug 8, 2001 5:13 pm
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I hope your message does not show the level of discussion on this list. What a disappointment....
Fernando Cassia
fcassia@...
Aug 9, 2001 11:49 pm
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I don't agree. You can give customers a choice, and you will win them more than by "locking them". Take a look at IBM. I can run IBM's own DB2 database in my...
Fernando Cassia
fcassia@...
Aug 9, 2001 11:58 pm
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... I hope your message does not show the level of ... Without dragging this beyond this one reply. I just have one question "Were you discussing when you had...
Chirag Patnaik
cpatnaik@...
Aug 10, 2001 3:52 am
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... I hope your message does not show the level of ... Without dragging this beyond this one reply. I just have one question "Were you discussing when you had...
Chirag Patnaik
cpatnaik@...
Aug 10, 2001 3:52 am
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Dear Chirag, I guess you had a bad day. ... So this is a "pissing contest", right? "you touch my loved company, I'll jump all over you"? Advertisement sig?....
Fernando Cassia
fcassia@...
Aug 10, 2001 6:04 am
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Since we are talking about ourselves and I love to boast
hands on
MS-DOS 1.0 (yes the one without sub directories), 3.0/5.0/6.2/6.22, Windows...
Chirag Patnaik
cpatnaik@...
Aug 10, 2001 7:12 pm
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... IMHO this issue is also raised in "Breaking Windows" but I'd like to discuss this whole issue. Is / in which sense is Java open? Do you think C# is more...
Gerhard Poul
gpoul@...
Aug 11, 2001 2:31 pm
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Gerhard, Thanks for your question. Your question on "Java vs C#" is based on a common misunderstanding. Java is MUCH more than a programming language. It is...
Fernando Cassia
fcassia@...
Aug 11, 2001 10:04 pm
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Thanks for your reply, Adam, I appreciate it. I've been out of town so I'm just now replying. I can see how this client lock-in effect has played out and it's...
David Goggin
david.goggin@...
Aug 12, 2001 2:14 pm
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... them more ... all depends ... competition), or just ... operating system. Right, but how much extra work is it for IBM to do that. How many people run DB2...
adam@...
Aug 13, 2001 5:29 am
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... Because Microsoft is paying them all off, or because it doesn't make business sense to do so? Microsoft has been losing tons of developers to: 1. Java. 2....
Dave Winer
dave@...
Aug 13, 2001 12:15 pm
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My point was that cross-platform development and Java are not magic, there are tradeoffs. Doing cross platform work means you have less time to focus on one...
adam@...
Aug 13, 2001 2:44 pm
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... Say what you want, but the facts are that IBM products give them you a choice of operating systems, Microsoft products hardly do. ... They "incremental...
Fernando Cassia
fcassia@...
Aug 13, 2001 8:20 pm
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A heads-up, we have received permission from the publisher and author of Breaking Windows, to run an excerpt tomorrow through DaveNet. This is the first time...
Dave Winer
dave@...
Aug 14, 2001 5:23 am
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DaveNet essay, "Excerpt from Breaking Windows", released on 8/14/2001; 7:34:08 AM Pacific. ... ***Introduction by Dave Winer In April I received an invitation...
dave@...
Aug 14, 2001 2:37 pm
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... because their ... to discuss ... Not being an expert, but from what I've seen - its more open in its documentation, its availibility. For instance, IBM has...
Addison Laurent
addison_laurent@...
Aug 14, 2001 4:11 pm
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PMFJI, but I'd like to make a contrast between the view of IBM mentioned here and the one I grew up with -- granted that was 30-40 years ago, but it's still...
David G. Goggin
david.goggin@...
Aug 14, 2001 5:17 pm
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... Exactly. That's why I believe that if there is to be a new platform in the space occupied by Java and .NET it must come from an entity that's so small that...
Dave Winer
dave@...
Aug 14, 2001 5:22 pm
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... I think that's a bit incorrect. They've adopted some open source, as it best benefits their business. AIX, for instance, hasn't been open sourced. ... ...
Addison Laurent
addison_laurent@...
Aug 14, 2001 6:08 pm
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Hey Dave Thanks for the great! excerpt. I remember when this happened. My immediate thought: oooh, billg, trapped by the beauty of your own logical thought,...
Stan Krute
Stan@...
Aug 14, 2001 6:15 pm
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... walls that ... reason Microsoft I can agree with, as a sterotype. But I can't say that I've seen anywhere near the same issue with Sun developers. Mainly...
Addison Laurent
addison_laurent@...
Aug 14, 2001 6:20 pm
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How about all the people who *aren't* writing for Java because it's too limited by where Sun wants it to go? Dave ... From: "Addison Laurent"...
Dave Winer
dave@...
Aug 14, 2001 6:29 pm
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Dave, Thanks for getting the excerpt posted. I look forward to reading the book and I believe it will enlighten me. However, I would like to know why you...
mckhendry@...
Aug 14, 2001 6:53 pm
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... I've read both books (although the Moose isn't a programmer, so the XML-RPC one is a little wasted on me) and highly recommend both. The Bank book is...
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