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#20745 From: Rob Richardson <CedricCicada@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:40 pm
Subject: Re: [ClevelandRails] Re: Bridge 4
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I've only been to Ashtabula twice, but I seem to remember a jackknife-style road bridge.  I think it was out of service for repainting last time I was there.  Is it back in service?

RobR


#20744 From: "Mark D. Stotzer" <marks@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:32 pm
Subject: Re: [ClevelandRails] Re: Bridge 4
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Is this list of NYC related Cuyahoga drawbridges correct?  I think some of us discussed this at length in this group in the past. 
"Bridge 4" = Current FIRR route to Cereal Foods per the photo. Looking at the old maps, a bridge has been at this lcoation going back to the Big Four.
Bridge 1 = Drawbridge at mouth of Cuyahoga (LS&MS then NYC, Conrail, NS).
Bridge 2 = Current unused RR drawbridge right next to Carter Road highway drawbridge. A bridge at this location also goes back to the Big Four days.
Bridge 3 = Drawbridge that once stood just south of the Lorain Carnegie bridge that went from DK Tower across the Cuyahoga to "central flats."
TIA
-MDS
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: deechss
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 8:14 AM
Subject: [ClevelandRails] Re: Bridge 4

 


Very nice pic! I didn't even know that bridge was still in use! glad it see it is! Is there any place around or in Cleveland that any Scherzer Rolling Lift bridges or any Jack-knife bridges are still in use? If so any safe spots to watch one in use? I never got to see one movee and I think that would be pretty cool to see! Thanks!

--- In clevelandrails@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Habak <tom794718@...> wrote:
>
> Hello everybody.  Here is a shot of the Flats Industrial #12 on bridge 4 Monday morning.  Vantage point is looking northwest from the Lorain-Carnegie Bridge.  I didn't notice the RTA train on the ex-CUT until I got home and downloaded my pictures.  Take Care, Tom H.
>


#20743 From: Dan Sapochetti <dansapo@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:10 pm
Subject: Re: [ClevelandRails] Cleveland Commercial Railroad
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I'm trying to get some photographs of them running.I know its a total
crap shoot.

jay bronc wrote:
>
> I got word from someone that works at Nestle that they were there at
> 4:10 p.m. last Friday, but I believe their times very greatly on a as
> needed basis.
>
> jay bronc
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> >From: dansapoche [dansapo@...]
> >Sent: 11/10/2009 3:38:35 PM
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> >Subject: Re: [ClevelandRails] Cleveland Commercial Railroad
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> >Anyone know when they run to Nestle or Richmond Rd area?
> >
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#20742 From: Dan Sapochetti <dansapo@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:06 pm
Subject: Re: [ClevelandRails] Cleveland Commercial Railroad
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Thanks for the heads up.I drove past there today and saw the ties laying
on the side of the row.

Robert Ozog wrote:
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>
> THEY HAD A COMPANY REPALCING TIE'S YESTERDAY ON THE RICHMOND ROAD
> INDUSTRIAL SIDING.
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> To: clevelandrails@yahoogroups.com
> From: dansapo@...
> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:38:35 +0000
> Subject: [ClevelandRails] Cleveland Commercial Railroad
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> Anyone know when they run to Nestle or Richmond Rd area?
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#20741 From: Rob Hunter <my1stcamaro92rs@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:36 pm
Subject: Re: [ClevelandRails] NYC Lightning Stripes at Collinwood
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A direct link if Yahoo still presents problems.
 
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p311/Coffee2Go_photos/collinwood1950.jpg

--- On Wed, 11/11/09, Mark D. Stotzer <marks@...> wrote:

From: Mark D. Stotzer <marks@...>
Subject: Re: [ClevelandRails] NYC Lightning Stripes at Collinwood
To: clevelandrails@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 11:17 AM

 
I'm getting a Yahoo server error when I click on the thumbnail.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 6:56 PM
Subject: RE: [ClevelandRails] NYC Lightning Stripes at Collinwood

 
What is the unit to the right? It looks like a Baldwin centipede.
 
Regards,
 
Louis N
 

 

To: clevelandrails@ yahoogroups. com
From: my1stcamaro92rs@ yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:39:02 -0800
Subject: [ClevelandRails] NYC Lightning Stripes at Collinwood [1 Attachment]

[Attachment(s) from Rob Hunter included below]

I found this card on ebay tonight and thought I'd share. The seller says it's marked 1950. The shot is taken of the east side of the building.


Attachment(s) from Rob Hunter
1 of 1 Photo(s)


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#20740 From: "Mark D. Stotzer" <marks@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:29 pm
Subject: Re: [ClevelandRails] NYC Lightning Stripes at Collinwood
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A belated Happy Birthday (number 234) to all my fellow Marines yesterday, November 10th.
In the spirit of veterans day today, I offer this quote that is etched on the base of the USMC War Memorial in Washington, DC:
"In honor and in memory of the men of the United States Marine Corps who have given their lives to their country since November 10, 1775."
Semper Fi.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 3:30 AM
Subject: Re: [ClevelandRails] NYC Lightning Stripes at Collinwood

 

Consulting the Diesel Spotter's Guide this morning, as I obviously
should have last night, reveals:

- I forgot about the NdeM centipedes.
- The DR-6-4-15, like the E and PA units, were indeed A1A-A1A trucked. I
should have remembered the often repeated "The NYC had no C-C units."
- Later DR-4-4-15 units had the more famous sharknose cabs.

Any other old geezer diesel fans out there remember how exciting it was
when the ads for DSG, with the picture of the crowded Pennsy engine
terminal, started showing up in Trains? It was my first "grown up" train
book. When I got to tech school after basic training, I had my parents mail
it to me even though I had little opportunity to diesel spot. After 42
years, it remains an indispensible reference book and for $3.50, quite a
bargain.

Happy Veteran's Day to all you vets!

MKN


#20739 From: "Mark D. Stotzer" <marks@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:17 pm
Subject: Re: [ClevelandRails] NYC Lightning Stripes at Collinwood
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I'm getting a Yahoo server error when I click on the thumbnail.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 6:56 PM
Subject: RE: [ClevelandRails] NYC Lightning Stripes at Collinwood

 

What is the unit to the right? It looks like a Baldwin centipede.
 
Regards,
 
Louis N
 

 


To: clevelandrails@yahoogroups.com
From: my1stcamaro92rs@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:39:02 -0800
Subject: [ClevelandRails] NYC Lightning Stripes at Collinwood [1 Attachment]

[Attachment(s) from Rob Hunter included below]

I found this card on ebay tonight and thought I'd share. The seller says it's marked 1950. The shot is taken of the east side of the building.


Attachment(s) from Rob Hunter

1 of 1 Photo(s)



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#20738 From: "jay bronc" <jaybronc@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:01 pm
Subject: Re: [ClevelandRails] Cleveland Commercial Railroad
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I got word from someone that works at Nestle that they were there at 4:10 p.m. last Friday, but I believe their times very greatly on a as needed basis.

jay bronc

<-----Original Message----->
>From: dansapoche [dansapo@...]
>Sent: 11/10/2009 3:38:35 PM
>To: clevelandrails@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [ClevelandRails] Cleveland Commercial Railroad
>
>
>Anyone know when they run to Nestle or Richmond Rd area?
>
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#20737 From: "Mark Nilges" <nycs1@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:30 am
Subject: Re: [ClevelandRails] NYC Lightning Stripes at Collinwood
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Consulting the Diesel Spotter's Guide this morning, as I obviously
should have last night, reveals:

     - I forgot about the NdeM centipedes.
     - The DR-6-4-15, like the E and PA units, were indeed A1A-A1A trucked. I
should have remembered the often repeated "The NYC had no C-C units."
     - Later DR-4-4-15 units had the more famous sharknose cabs.

     Any other old geezer diesel fans out there remember how exciting it was
when the ads for DSG, with the picture of the crowded Pennsy engine
terminal, started showing up in Trains? It was my first "grown up" train
book. When I got to tech school after basic training, I had my parents mail
it to me even though I had little opportunity to diesel spot. After 42
years, it remains an indispensible reference book and for $3.50, quite a
bargain.

     Happy Veteran's Day to all you vets!

     MKN

#20736 From: Rob Hunter <my1stcamaro92rs@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:19 am
Subject: Re: [ClevelandRails] NYC Lightning Stripes at Collinwood
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Thanks Mark for even identifying the unit. It is rather unique

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, Mark Nilges <nycs1@...> wrote:

From: Mark Nilges <nycs1@...>
Subject: Re: [ClevelandRails] NYC Lightning Stripes at Collinwood
To: clevelandrails@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 11:15 PM

 

>> The Central also had 4 DR-6-4-15 C-C trucked passenger units with the
>> same type cabs and 2 C-C trucked B units.
>
> Looking at the model number again, I'm probably wrong calling them C-C
> units. I'd have to do some more research but possibly the 6-4 indicates 6
> axles with 4 powered, which could make it a B-A1A trucked unit. I believe
> some of the FM's were also this way.

Nope... how about A1A-A1A! It's too late for this stuff. Goodnight!

MKN



#20735 From: "Mark Nilges" <nycs1@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:15 am
Subject: Re: [ClevelandRails] NYC Lightning Stripes at Collinwood
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>>    The Central also had 4 DR-6-4-15 C-C trucked passenger units with the
>> same type cabs and 2 C-C trucked B units.
>
>    Looking at the model number again, I'm probably wrong calling them C-C
> units. I'd have to do some more research but possibly the 6-4 indicates 6
> axles with 4 powered, which could make it a B-A1A trucked unit. I believe
> some of the FM's were also this way.

     Nope... how about A1A-A1A! It's too late for this stuff. Goodnight!

     MKN

#20734 From: "Mark Nilges" <nycs1@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:08 am
Subject: Re: [ClevelandRails] NYC Lightning Stripes at Collinwood
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>    The Central also had 4 DR-6-4-15 C-C trucked passenger units with the
> same type cabs and 2 C-C trucked B units.

     Looking at the model number again, I'm probably wrong calling them C-C
units. I'd have to do some more research but possibly the 6-4 indicates 6
axles with 4 powered, which could make it a B-A1A trucked unit. I believe
some of the FM's were also this way.

     MKN

#20733 From: "Mark Nilges" <nycs1@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:40 am
Subject: Re: [ClevelandRails] NYC Lightning Stripes at Collinwood
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> What is the unit to the right? It looks like a Baldwin centipede.

     Every once in a while, I can actually find something I'm looking for.
According to the back of the card, that is: Baldwin "Babyface" No. 3401. New
York Central System Diesel Locomotives identifies 3401 as a model DR-4-4-15,
one of 4 A units built for the Central in 10/1948. They also had 2 B units.

     The Central also had 4 DR-6-4-15 C-C trucked passenger units with the
same type cabs and 2 C-C trucked B units.

     Collinwood and EMD re-engined at least some of both sets of these
Baldwins.

     MKN

#20732 From: "Mark Nilges" <nycs1@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:19 am
Subject: Re: [ClevelandRails] NYC Lightning Stripes at Collinwood
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> What is the unit to the right? It looks like a Baldwin centipede.

     I'm pretty sure only Pennsy and Seaboard had the centipedes. This
Baldwin was called the Babyface by fans, but I think it shared a look alike
cab with the centipedes.

     MKN

#20731 From: "Tom Boylan" <trainnut@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:03 am
Subject: Re: [ClevelandRails] Thru The Cornfield Rt 61 Willard
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Hi Rob
There was some GP9s and GP20s stationed at Dover and all their deadline has been gone for quite awhile
Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Hunter
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: [ClevelandRails] Thru The Cornfield Rt 61 Willard

 

That'll make for some interesting shots in Dover. What power is rostered there now, anyone know?

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, Tom Boylan <trainnut@willard-oh.com> wrote:

From: Tom Boylan <trainnut@willard-oh.com>
Subject: [ClevelandRails] Thru The Cornfield Rt 61 Willard [1 Attachment]
To: CSX_Albany_GreatLakesDivision@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 3:18 PM

 
Hi Guys

The the cornfield D750 transports the RJ Corman 5400 to Warwick for transfer
to Corman and its trip to Dover Oh

Tom



#20730 From: louis niederlander <l_niederlander@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:56 am
Subject: RE: [ClevelandRails] NYC Lightning Stripes at Collinwood [1 Attachment]
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What is the unit to the right? It looks like a Baldwin centipede.
 
Regards,
 
Louis N
 

 

To: clevelandrails@yahoogroups.com
From: my1stcamaro92rs@...
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:39:02 -0800
Subject: [ClevelandRails] NYC Lightning Stripes at Collinwood [1 Attachment]

[Attachment(s) from Rob Hunter included below]

I found this card on ebay tonight and thought I'd share. The seller says it's marked 1950. The shot is taken of the east side of the building.


Attachment(s) from Rob Hunter

1 of 1 Photo(s)



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#20729 From: Robert Ozog <robertozog@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:01 pm
Subject: RE: [ClevelandRails] Cleveland Commercial Railroad
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THEY HAD A COMPANY REPALCING TIE'S YESTERDAY ON THE RICHMOND ROAD INDUSTRIAL SIDING.
 

To: clevelandrails@yahoogroups.com
From: dansapo@...
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:38:35 +0000
Subject: [ClevelandRails] Cleveland Commercial Railroad

 
Anyone know when they run to Nestle or Richmond Rd area?




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#20728 From: Rob Hunter <my1stcamaro92rs@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:52 pm
Subject: Re: [ClevelandRails] Thru The Cornfield Rt 61 Willard [1 Attachment]
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That'll make for some interesting shots in Dover. What power is rostered there now, anyone know?

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, Tom Boylan <trainnut@...> wrote:

From: Tom Boylan <trainnut@...>
Subject: [ClevelandRails] Thru The Cornfield Rt 61 Willard [1 Attachment]
To: CSX_Albany_GreatLakesDivision@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 3:18 PM

 
Hi Guys

The the cornfield D750 transports the RJ Corman 5400 to Warwick for transfer
to Corman and its trip to Dover Oh

Tom



#20727 From: Rob Hunter <my1stcamaro92rs@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:39 pm
Subject: NYC Lightning Stripes at Collinwood
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I found this card on ebay tonight and thought I'd share. The seller says it's marked 1950. The shot is taken of the east side of the building.


1 of 1 Photo(s)

#20726 From: "dansapoche" <dansapo@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:38 pm
Subject: Cleveland Commercial Railroad
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Anyone know when they run to Nestle or Richmond Rd area?

#20725 From: "Tom Boylan" <trainnut@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:18 pm
Subject: Thru The Cornfield Rt 61 Willard
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Hi Guys

The the cornfield D750 transports the RJ Corman 5400 to Warwick for transfer
to Corman and its trip to Dover Oh

Tom

1 of 1 Photo(s)

#20724 From: "Tom Boylan" <trainnut@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:04 pm
Subject: D750 RJ Corman 5400 Rt61 Willard
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Hi Guys

D 750 with RJ Corman 5400 approaching Rt 61 W illard headed for for Warwick
to setoff the genset to go to Dover Oh

Tom

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#20723 From: "Tom Boylan" <trainnut@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:58 pm
Subject: Headsup D750 RJ Corman Genset
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Hi Guys
Headsup on D750 out of Willard this morning has the RJ Corman genset 5400 to be set off at Warwick
Tom

#20722 From: "Tom Boylan" <trainnut@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:25 am
Subject: Re: [ClevelandRails] RJ Corman 5400 Genset Willard
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Hi Harold
I will try and let you know ,as it did not go today maybe tommorrow
Tom
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Subject: Re: [ClevelandRails] RJ Corman 5400 Genset Willard

 

Nice picture Tom. Do you know 
when it will be going to Warwick?

See my pictures at: http://picasaweb.google.com/bnsf4evr


On Nov 8, 2009, at 16:16, "Tom Boylan" <trainnut@willard-oh.com> wrote:

 

Hi Guys

Residing in Willard today is the RJ Corman 5400 genset by Railpower that
will be dispatched on a local to be set off in Warwick for transfer to RJ
Corman

Tom


#20721 From: "Rob W" <rwhitma@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 4:12 pm
Subject: Circus Train
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Just went though Sandusky at about 11:05

#20720 From: Jack Tiller <jtboy_5@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 3:39 pm
Subject: circus train
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Circus Train By Mp 216 Lorain Ohio 10:30 AM Westbound

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#20719 From: Gwennyth Patrick <gwennyth42@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 2:42 pm
Subject: RBBX Blue Unit update Pitt-Tol Nov 9.
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sorry for the late notice; may be by cleve already. :/

>NS 2641 with Blue Unit in tow by Ravenna, OH. on NS Cleveland Line at 752am
West Bound towards Cleveland.

#20718 From: Rob Richardson <CedricCicada@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 2:25 pm
Subject: Heads up: Circus train heading west from Cleveland
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The RB&BB Circus Train (well, one of them) is heading west from
Cleveland as I type this.  It passed West 140th St. on the NS
Cleveland Line at 9:25 AM.

RobR

#20717 From: "Harold A. Mickley" <bnsf4evr@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 1:23 pm
Subject: Re: [ClevelandRails] RJ Corman 5400 Genset Willard [1 Attachment]
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Nice picture Tom. Do you know 
when it will be going to Warwick?

See my pictures at: http://picasaweb.google.com/bnsf4evr


On Nov 8, 2009, at 16:16, "Tom Boylan" <trainnut@...> wrote:

 

Hi Guys

Residing in Willard today is the RJ Corman 5400 genset by Railpower that
will be dispatched on a local to be set off in Warwick for transfer to RJ
Corman

Tom


#20716 From: "Tom Boylan" <trainnut@...>
Date: Sun Nov 8, 2009 9:16 pm
Subject: RJ Corman 5400 Genset Willard
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Hi Guys

Residing in Willard today is the RJ Corman 5400 genset by Railpower that
will be dispatched on a local to be set off in Warwick for transfer to RJ
Corman

Tom

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