Hi everybody, Does anyone can brief me what is the status of the various VV projects undertaken up to now? I visited the Goldratt Consulting website and found ...
Hi Nicos, A brief non-official report: Since the introduction of the S&T the VV implementation and sales process changed entirely. The Goldratt Consulting...
Can you talk about the win win arrangements? ... -- __________________________________ Santiago Velásquez Martínez "Two roads diverged in a wood, and I — I...
Hi Santiago, I know very little of them as they happened in places that I am not currently working on, but just to give you an idea: one client had problems...
Humberto and Nicos I have the same curiosity, to know in what pace "or place" is the VV process. Humberto your answer is a bit political. Can we say the...
Luis As you can notice nobody is willing to answer. I am wondering what they want to hide. Nevertheless I came to the conclusion that a good implementation...
Hi Luis I think that the only fair conclusion is that it is a process that is still under development. I hear that some companies have already got good...
No matter how it is going, I observe the same as Nicos: total quietness. I have seen it in the local circles as well. What I do know, is not much more...
Maybe GC has a dilemma: A: Make TOC mainstream B: Do many VV projects D: For confidentiality, don't communicate status VV projects C: Involve many consultants...
Jim, Nicos I agree with you both but I think TOC is so important that IMHO can't be view as narrow as "GC view" and "GC way of doing business". And it worries...
Hi Luis I frankly don't know how is the status of the VV projects, the last time I've checked there were 35 active projects. The few I know of are OK, but...
Hi Humberto That political stuff was just a test, please ignore it :-))) I understand from your answer and Jim's that VV process is been developed. The problem...
I agree with Luis about the expectations. I was involved as an AE (TOC Application Expert ) in 2005 - 2006 and we were promised there would be enough projects...
The cycle of great promises and the subsequent facing of reality has been going ‘round and ‘round since I’ve been a part of TOC (~’93/4). I’M not...
Hi everybody. I have not heard about more VV Seminars. GC Strategy for generating leads has changed (it is my personal opinion), and Sales Process is changing...
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I recently gave a TOC overview to 150 managers in my company. They loved the concepts but often chuckled at the terms used in TOC. For example, the following...
I struggled with this issue too. However, I have found the words stand out. When we clean it up the presentation sounds like every other presentation on ...
Great points! I'll keep them in mind as I have to do another session for more managers. _____ From: cmsig@yahoogroups.com [mailto:cmsig@yahoogroups.com] On...
Hi Richard Having worked with TOC since 1987 and being part of the team that developed the Thinking Processes in the UK. I saw many different tactics to avoid ...
I agree with Jim I don't understand why you would even consider tampering with the TOC lexicon. Such a lexicon is a pre-requisite for any specialised field. ...
Justin - ... It's not a question of PCness, it's a question of what makes it easier vs. harder to sell. There's no question but that good terms are easier to...
Well, I certainly agree that some of the terminology needs to be improved. I've been objecting vigorously for years to concepts like 'policy constraint', 'bad...
Justin - ... I worked at the Goldratt Institute for several years on a DBR system called "Disaster." From a sales perspective, it was aptly named. But the name...
1. Who is the "we" when you say "we" define a term. 2. I think many TOC advocates have sown seeds of TOC's destruction, and many of those using different...
By we, I meant 'the TOC community'. If the general business community has bad taste we should directly confront the fallacious assumptions that underpin the...
Justin, I think I agree with you... :) IMO, people may find the terms funny or awkward the first time they hear/see them, but if you keep using them and giving...
Rob "(Although I personally think these terminology issues are a symptom of a much broader problem.)" What problem? Lack of a common objective between members...
Rob, just curious: How can "Disaster" be a good sales name??? ;) ... -- __________________________________ Santiago Velásquez Martínez "Two roads diverged in...
