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#529 From: "Dennis Turk" <dennis.turk2@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:55 am
Subject: Re: Re: Prepping a Combo for the first spin up? 		dturkcars
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Hi PK
 
The tool post is an indexing 4 way and looks much like the ones SB sold in later years.  Mabye they got the idea from Dalton.  Great old machine but god what a job to restore it the way I do the little lathes."-)))))
 
Turk
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Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 5:05 PM
Subject: [daltonlathes] Re: Prepping a Combo for the first spin up?

 

Thanks for the reply. I've posted some pictures under Pat's Dalton Combo on this forum toward the bottom of the list. If you look at the one of the tool post you'll see it's not a lantern type. I haven't seen this on other Dalton's and was wondering if this is stock.
I didn't know about the oil. I've been using Turbine 68 oil in my lathes. Gonna have to change that. I got this old Combo at an auction right here in Noxon. I had never seen anything like it. What a great old machine. PK

--- In daltonlathes@yahoogroups.com, "Dennis Turk" <dennis.turk2@...> wrote:
>
> Hi John and Kelly
>
> Well all the information I can give you is lots of oil. Good grade of spindle oil not motor oil. Motor oil has chemicals in it to keep particulate matter in suspension and that is not what you wont on your lathe. You could use 30 weight motor oil for lead screw bushings and some very slow moving or revolving shafts but the spindle bearings need a good spindle oil. If either of you guys dont have How To Run a Lathe by South Bend you should get this small book. It has a wealth of info in it that pertains to all lathes not just SB lathes. One thing to remember is your lathes are one of a kinds and there are no spare parts around for them so keep safety in mind. Also what ever drive you have for the spindle try and not go over 600 to 800 rpm. These old girls usually ran in the 500 rpm range or less. The little Dalton home shop lathes were setup to run at around 480 rpm and I have kept them under 800 with good oil. This seams to work OK.
>
> When I first got into Dalton lathes and did a little research I never figured I would ever see a combo machine given there size and rarity. The very first one found was here in Oregon at a Farm auction. That is the one you see on Tony Griffiths site. Those are the pictures I took of it. I think we count five or six of them now.
>
> Have fun with your lathes.
>
> Dennis Turk
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: callin john
> To: daltonlathes@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 3:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] Prepping a Combo for the first spin up?
>
>
>
> PK,
> I have a combo also. I would be interested in pix and to hear about your adventures. I never have figured out how to use mine. I'm no machinist by any means. I don't know a thing about cutters, etc. I still have the old style tool post and funky HSS cutters. I'd like to upgrade it to something a bit more modern and user (dummy) friendly, but don't know which way to go. I'm 62 years old and the last lathe I ran was in HS metal shop. I wasn't very good then, either. John Callin
>
> --- On Tue, 11/10/09, kellysdaybreak <nox2743@...> wrote:
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> From: kellysdaybreak <nox2743@...>
> Subject: [daltonlathes] Prepping a Combo for the first spin up?
> To: daltonlathes@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 3:45 PM
>
>
>
> I'm getting my Dalton Combination Machine ready to spin up and put to work. I'd like to hear some suggestions on getting an old machine that has sat idle for years. It is stiff to turn and information is scarce on this machine. Thanks for any help, PK.
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#528 From: "kellysdaybreak" <nox2743@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:05 am
Subject: Re: Prepping a Combo for the first spin up? 		kellysdaybreak
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Thanks for the reply. I've posted some pictures under Pat's Dalton Combo  on
this forum toward the bottom of the list. If you look at the one of the tool
post you'll see it's not a lantern type. I haven't seen this on other Dalton's
and was wondering if this is stock.
I didn't know about the oil. I've been using Turbine 68 oil in my lathes. Gonna
have to change that. I got this old Combo at an auction right here in Noxon. I
had never seen anything like it. What a great old machine. PK

--- In daltonlathes@yahoogroups.com, "Dennis Turk" <dennis.turk2@...> wrote:
>
> Hi John and Kelly
>
> Well all the information I can give you is lots of oil.  Good grade of spindle
oil not motor oil.  Motor oil has chemicals in it to keep particulate matter in
suspension and that is not what you wont on your lathe.  You could use 30 weight
motor oil for lead screw bushings and some very slow moving or revolving shafts
but the spindle bearings need a good spindle oil.  If either of you guys dont
have How To Run a Lathe by South Bend you should get this small book.  It has a
wealth of info in it that pertains to all lathes not just SB lathes.  One thing
to remember is your lathes are one of a kinds and there are no spare parts
around for them so keep safety in mind.  Also what ever drive you have for the
spindle try and not go over 600 to 800 rpm.  These old girls usually ran in the
500 rpm range or less.  The little Dalton home shop lathes were setup to run at
around 480 rpm and I have kept them under 800 with good oil.  This seams to work
OK.
>
>  When I first got into Dalton lathes and did a little research I never figured
I would ever see a combo machine given there size and rarity.  The very first
one found was here in Oregon at a Farm auction.  That is the one you see on Tony
Griffiths site.  Those are the pictures I took of it.  I think we count five or
six of them now.
>
> Have fun with your lathes.
>
> Dennis Turk
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: callin john
>   To: daltonlathes@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 3:59 PM
>   Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] Prepping a Combo for the first spin up?
>
>
>
>         PK,
>         I have a combo also. I would be interested in pix and to hear about
your adventures. I never have figured out how to use mine. I'm no machinist by
any means. I don't know a thing about cutters, etc. I still have the old style
tool post and funky HSS cutters. I'd like to upgrade it to something a bit more
modern and user (dummy) friendly, but don't know which way to go. I'm 62 years
old and the last lathe I ran was in HS metal shop. I wasn't very good then,
either.    John Callin
>
>         --- On Tue, 11/10/09, kellysdaybreak <nox2743@...> wrote:
>
>
>           From: kellysdaybreak <nox2743@...>
>           Subject: [daltonlathes] Prepping a Combo for the first spin up?
>           To: daltonlathes@yahoogroups.com
>           Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 3:45 PM
>
>
>
>           I'm getting my Dalton Combination Machine ready to spin up and put
to work. I'd like to hear some suggestions on getting an old machine that has
sat idle for years. It is stiff to turn and information is scarce on this
machine. Thanks for any help, PK.
>
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#527 From: "Dennis Turk" <dennis.turk2@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:42 am
Subject: Re: Prepping a Combo for the first spin up? 		dturkcars
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Hi John and Kelly
 
Well all the information I can give you is lots of oil.  Good grade of spindle oil not motor oil.  Motor oil has chemicals in it to keep particulate matter in suspension and that is not what you wont on your lathe.  You could use 30 weight motor oil for lead screw bushings and some very slow moving or revolving shafts but the spindle bearings need a good spindle oil.  If either of you guys dont have How To Run a Lathe by South Bend you should get this small book.  It has a wealth of info in it that pertains to all lathes not just SB lathes.  One thing to remember is your lathes are one of a kinds and there are no spare parts around for them so keep safety in mind.  Also what ever drive you have for the spindle try and not go over 600 to 800 rpm.  These old girls usually ran in the 500 rpm range or less.  The little Dalton home shop lathes were setup to run at around 480 rpm and I have kept them under 800 with good oil.  This seams to work OK.
 
 When I first got into Dalton lathes and did a little research I never figured I would ever see a combo machine given there size and rarity.  The very first one found was here in Oregon at a Farm auction.  That is the one you see on Tony Griffiths site.  Those are the pictures I took of it.  I think we count five or six of them now.
 
Have fun with your lathes. 
 
Dennis Turk
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] Prepping a Combo for the first spin up?

 

PK,
I have a combo also. I would be interested in pix and to hear about your adventures. I never have figured out how to use mine. I'm no machinist by any means. I don't know a thing about cutters, etc. I still have the old style tool post and funky HSS cutters. I'd like to upgrade it to something a bit more modern and user (dummy) friendly, but don't know which way to go. I'm 62 years old and the last lathe I ran was in HS metal shop. I wasn't very good then, either.    John Callin

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From: kellysdaybreak <nox2743@blackfoot.net>
Subject: [daltonlathes] Prepping a Combo for the first spin up?
To: daltonlathes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 3:45 PM

 

I'm getting my Dalton Combination Machine ready to spin up and put to work. I'd like to hear some suggestions on getting an old machine that has sat idle for years. It is stiff to turn and information is scarce on this machine. Thanks for any help, PK.



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#526 From: "kellysdaybreak" <nox2743@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:02 am
Subject: Re: Combo bed length? 		kellysdaybreak
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Thanks Dennis,
My 1928 Southbend is measured that way, it has an 8 foot bed. So that wa sthe
standard of the day. I have a big old Hendy I'll have to measure up. It looks to
be about 10 feet long. PK

--- In daltonlathes@yahoogroups.com, "Dennis Turk" <dennis.turk2@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Kelly
>
> OK the beds on all old machine say pre 1950 were measured by the overall
length of the bed proper.  So a 36 inch bed would yield about 18 inches between
centers. Different for different brand of lathes.
>
> I am not sure how the combo machines beds were measured.  I would think it was
from the back of the head stock to the end of the bed.  I have never seen a bed
turret for a combo machine but there was one for the smaller Daltons.  I think
one of our guys just outside of Chicago has one along with all the rest of the
unique tooling that Dalton built.  I could have seen it a little over a year ago
but I did not wont to drive that close to Chicogo.  I skirted around it as I was
coming from Green Bay and headed to Steve Wells home just East of Indianapolis. 
I do have some pictures of some of his accessories and they are fibulas to say
the least.  Sure would like to have some of them as he has two Dalton lathes
that are like new.  Least all the accessories are new.
>
> Here are some photos of Ralph Ferons accessories.  When a Dalton was shipped
from the factory with a lever collet closer it got a very special guard that
covered the closer and the end gear on the spindle.  My Dalton 9 has such a part
but until I seen Ralphs pictures I did not know what it was for.  Ralph has
other accessories to his Daltons also.
>
> Turk
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: kellysdaybreak
>   To: daltonlathes@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 5:57 PM
>   Subject: [daltonlathes] Combo bed length?
>
>
>     How did Dalton measure bead length? Was it between centers or the full
length of the bed? Also, are the Combination Machines measured differently? Also
while I'm asking dumb questions, did the Combo come with a turret tool holder?
Thanks for any info, PK.
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#525 From: callin john <rumijohn@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:59 pm
Subject: Re: Prepping a Combo for the first spin up? 		rumijohn
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PK,
I have a combo also. I would be interested in pix and to hear about your adventures. I never have figured out how to use mine. I'm no machinist by any means. I don't know a thing about cutters, etc. I still have the old style tool post and funky HSS cutters. I'd like to upgrade it to something a bit more modern and user (dummy) friendly, but don't know which way to go. I'm 62 years old and the last lathe I ran was in HS metal shop. I wasn't very good then, either.    John Callin

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From: kellysdaybreak <nox2743@...>
Subject: [daltonlathes] Prepping a Combo for the first spin up?
To: daltonlathes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 3:45 PM

 

I'm getting my Dalton Combination Machine ready to spin up and put to work. I'd like to hear some suggestions on getting an old machine that has sat idle for years. It is stiff to turn and information is scarce on this machine. Thanks for any help, PK.


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#524 From: "kellysdaybreak" <nox2743@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:45 pm
Subject: Prepping a Combo for the first spin up? 		kellysdaybreak
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I'm getting my Dalton Combination Machine ready to spin up and put to work. I'd
like to hear some suggestions on getting an old machine that has sat idle for
years. It is stiff to turn and information is scarce on this machine. Thanks for
any help, PK.

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#523 From: Ronald Peeler <Ronaldpeeler@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 7:39 pm
Subject: RE: Dalton in Az 		rpp6775
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Hi Denny
 
  Yea it dissapeared on my watch list too. 
 
This listing (290366918014) has been removed, or this item is not available.
 
Ron

 
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:12:03 +0000
Subject: [daltonlathes] Dalton in Az

 
Hi all

I was off all weekend fishing and when I got home the Dalton that was up for bid on eBay had disappeared. Anyone know if it was sold or what happened to it. Usually things on your watch list don't disappear unless the seller takes the auction down.

Turk



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#522 From: "Denny" <dennis.turk2@...>
Date: Mon Nov 9, 2009 6:12 pm
Subject: Dalton in Az 		dturkcars
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Hi all

I was off all weekend fishing and when I got home the Dalton that was up for bid
on eBay had disappeared.  Anyone know if it was sold or what happened to it. 
Usually things on your watch list don't disappear unless the seller takes the
auction down.

Turk

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#521 From: RLH <oakdooley@...>
Date: Thu Nov 5, 2009 6:32 pm
Subject: Re: New Dalton Lathe Owner - B-4, Lot 4, 1795 		oakdooley
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So it's World War 1 vintage.  It is definetly the oldest power tool in my workshop.  The next oldest is a late 30's Atlas drill press.  I really like the overhead drive/countershaft and semi-cabinet stand as it takes very little floor space in my basement shop - not to mention that it just looks really cool.
 
Whatever parts you can find would be great.  I appreciate all your help.  I think I'll spend some time reading old threads for as much info as I can find before I start deluging the group with questions.
 
Thanks again,
Randy

--- On Wed, 11/4/09, Dennis Turk <dennis.turk2@...> wrote:

From: Dennis Turk <dennis.turk2@...>
Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] New Dalton Lathe Owner - B-4, Lot 4, 1795
To: daltonlathes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 4, 2009, 11:07 PM

 
Hi Randy
 
The taper pin in the half nut handle dates your lathe 1917 1918 or earlier.  Not just sure when Dalton made the next change on the half nut lever but my 1919 has a set screw and the 1920 has a split half nut handle with a boss with a screw through it.  Your lathe is an early one.
 
I dont have any lead screw threadless nuts left but I may have a correct handle for the compound.  Dalton lathes never did have a graduated collar on the compound Randy.  Your broken gear door is damaged in an odd place.   Mostly we see damage at the bottom front and back on these never the top like yours.  It can be repaired.
 
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: RLH
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] New Dalton Lathe Owner - B-4, Lot 4, 1795 [3 Attachments]

 
Dennis,
 
The half nut handle is held in place with a tapered pin.  I attached a couple of photos that show what parts are missing, not original, and broken.
 
Thanks for your help,
Randy

--- On Tue, 11/3/09, Dennis Turk <dennis.turk2@ verizon.net> wrote:

From: Dennis Turk <dennis.turk2@ verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] New Dalton Lathe Owner - B-4, Lot 4, 1795
To: daltonlathes@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 11:22 PM

 
Hi Randy
 
There are a couple of things that date your lathe.  The half nut handle for one.  does it have a set screw to hold it in place or is there a taper pin securing it?  Take pictures of the damaged parts and also were missing parts go and I will see what I have for spares.
 
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: RLH
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] New Dalton Lathe Owner - B-4, Lot 4, 1795

 
Dennis,
 
I cannot find a patent tag on neither the gear door nor the tail stock.  The tail stock legs have no text in the castings and the cabinet door says "Dalton Machine Co Inc, New York USA".  The thread chart says New York also.  Does this help you hone in on what year it is?
 
Of the missing original components are:
1) The original tail stock hand wheel.  The one on the tail stock is a newer, cheaper replacement.  It works but its not the real deal.
2) The compound slide graduated collar and handle.  The simply is no coller and the handle is a homemade job.
3) The cross slide lead screw cover
4) One of the spring lock collars on the end of the change gear shafts to keep the gears from sliding off.  There are two, but the third is gone.
 
If you, or anyone for that matter, happens to have any of these parts I'd love to have a chance to purchase them.
 
There are a couple of broken castings.  There is a chip out of the top of the change gear cover.  There is also a chip off the bottom of the bull gear cover.  I don't anticipate being able to find replacements for these so I was thinking of patching them up with one of the "steel" putty products.
 
Thanks for any help you can offer.
Randy
 


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From: Dennis Turk <dennis.turk2@ verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] New Dalton Lathe Owner - B-4, Lot 4, 1795
To: daltonlathes@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 2, 2009, 11:06 PM

 
Hi Randy
 
OK I cant see a patent tag on the end door and I also cant see on the tail stock.  If it does in fact have a tag on the tail stock your lathe was built before 1916.  You have most of the planetary overhead silent chain drive.  It has had much modifications done to it as most have.
 
The lathe looks complete with what looks to be a full set of change gears and you have a 3C collet draw bar.  On the tail stock leg does it say Dalton of NY and does the cabinet door say Sound Beach?  I have one like this.
 
Randy my name is Dennis Turk and I have the only stock of used spare parts available.  Not a lot but a few as I have parted out several machines like yours.
 
If you go to Andy Sargents web site you will see a registry of Dalton owners.  You will also find the only catalogs we have as well as a biography of Hubert Dalton that was written by the of one of his two great nephews  Hubert Dalton Peck.  The author was once married to Hubert and here name is Gay Howard of California.   http://oldarn. com/dalton/
 
Check out Andy's site as well as go to Tony Griffiths site in England if have not done so.   There is some history there also.
 
Welcome to the Dalton gang of lathe owners Randy.
 
Dennis Turk
----- Original Message -----
From: oakdooley
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:54 PM
Subject: [daltonlathes] New Dalton Lathe Owner - B-4, Lot 4, 1795

 
Hi all, This past Saturday I purchased a Dalton lathe that I came across on C-List. I just added a photo album named "Randy Harmeling's B-4". I'm a rookie when it comes to metal lathes, so I'm looking forward to learning a lot from you all. There are a few missing parts which I hope to replace with actual Dalton parts - hopefully donor parts aren't impossible to find. I'm sure I'll post many questions regarding its operation and maintenance. For now I just wanted to introduce myself and share some photos. One question - could someone tell me what year my lathe was manufactured?

Thanks,
Randy



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#520 From: "Dennis Turk" <dennis.turk2@...>
Date: Thu Nov 5, 2009 5:07 am
Subject: Re: New Dalton Lathe Owner - B-4, Lot 4, 1795 [3 Attachments] 		dturkcars
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Hi Randy
 
The taper pin in the half nut handle dates your lathe 1917 1918 or earlier.  Not just sure when Dalton made the next change on the half nut lever but my 1919 has a set screw and the 1920 has a split half nut handle with a boss with a screw through it.  Your lathe is an early one.
 
I dont have any lead screw threadless nuts left but I may have a correct handle for the compound.  Dalton lathes never did have a graduated collar on the compound Randy.  Your broken gear door is damaged in an odd place.   Mostly we see damage at the bottom front and back on these never the top like yours.  It can be repaired.
 
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: RLH
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] New Dalton Lathe Owner - B-4, Lot 4, 1795 [3 Attachments]

 

Dennis,
 
The half nut handle is held in place with a tapered pin.  I attached a couple of photos that show what parts are missing, not original, and broken.
 
Thanks for your help,
Randy

--- On Tue, 11/3/09, Dennis Turk <dennis.turk2@verizon.net> wrote:

From: Dennis Turk <dennis.turk2@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] New Dalton Lathe Owner - B-4, Lot 4, 1795
To: daltonlathes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 11:22 PM

 
Hi Randy
 
There are a couple of things that date your lathe.  The half nut handle for one.  does it have a set screw to hold it in place or is there a taper pin securing it?  Take pictures of the damaged parts and also were missing parts go and I will see what I have for spares.
 
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: RLH
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] New Dalton Lathe Owner - B-4, Lot 4, 1795

 
Dennis,
 
I cannot find a patent tag on neither the gear door nor the tail stock.  The tail stock legs have no text in the castings and the cabinet door says "Dalton Machine Co Inc, New York USA".  The thread chart says New York also.  Does this help you hone in on what year it is?
 
Of the missing original components are:
1) The original tail stock hand wheel.  The one on the tail stock is a newer, cheaper replacement.  It works but its not the real deal.
2) The compound slide graduated collar and handle.  The simply is no coller and the handle is a homemade job.
3) The cross slide lead screw cover
4) One of the spring lock collars on the end of the change gear shafts to keep the gears from sliding off.  There are two, but the third is gone.
 
If you, or anyone for that matter, happens to have any of these parts I'd love to have a chance to purchase them.
 
There are a couple of broken castings.  There is a chip out of the top of the change gear cover.  There is also a chip off the bottom of the bull gear cover.  I don't anticipate being able to find replacements for these so I was thinking of patching them up with one of the "steel" putty products.
 
Thanks for any help you can offer.
Randy
 


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From: Dennis Turk <dennis.turk2@ verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] New Dalton Lathe Owner - B-4, Lot 4, 1795
To: daltonlathes@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 2, 2009, 11:06 PM

 
Hi Randy
 
OK I cant see a patent tag on the end door and I also cant see on the tail stock.  If it does in fact have a tag on the tail stock your lathe was built before 1916.  You have most of the planetary overhead silent chain drive.  It has had much modifications done to it as most have.
 
The lathe looks complete with what looks to be a full set of change gears and you have a 3C collet draw bar.  On the tail stock leg does it say Dalton of NY and does the cabinet door say Sound Beach?  I have one like this.
 
Randy my name is Dennis Turk and I have the only stock of used spare parts available.  Not a lot but a few as I have parted out several machines like yours.
 
If you go to Andy Sargents web site you will see a registry of Dalton owners.  You will also find the only catalogs we have as well as a biography of Hubert Dalton that was written by the of one of his two great nephews  Hubert Dalton Peck.  The author was once married to Hubert and here name is Gay Howard of California.   http://oldarn. com/dalton/
 
Check out Andy's site as well as go to Tony Griffiths site in England if have not done so.   There is some history there also.
 
Welcome to the Dalton gang of lathe owners Randy.
 
Dennis Turk
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Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:54 PM
Subject: [daltonlathes] New Dalton Lathe Owner - B-4, Lot 4, 1795

 
Hi all, This past Saturday I purchased a Dalton lathe that I came across on C-List. I just added a photo album named "Randy Harmeling's B-4". I'm a rookie when it comes to metal lathes, so I'm looking forward to learning a lot from you all. There are a few missing parts which I hope to replace with actual Dalton parts - hopefully donor parts aren't impossible to find. I'm sure I'll post many questions regarding its operation and maintenance. For now I just wanted to introduce myself and share some photos. One question - could someone tell me what year my lathe was manufactured?

Thanks,
Randy



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#519 From: RLH <oakdooley@...>
Date: Thu Nov 5, 2009 3:29 am
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Dennis,
 
The half nut handle is held in place with a tapered pin.  I attached a couple of photos that show what parts are missing, not original, and broken.
 
Thanks for your help,
Randy

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Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] New Dalton Lathe Owner - B-4, Lot 4, 1795
To: daltonlathes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 11:22 PM

 
Hi Randy
 
There are a couple of things that date your lathe.  The half nut handle for one.  does it have a set screw to hold it in place or is there a taper pin securing it?  Take pictures of the damaged parts and also were missing parts go and I will see what I have for spares.
 
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: RLH
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] New Dalton Lathe Owner - B-4, Lot 4, 1795

 
Dennis,
 
I cannot find a patent tag on neither the gear door nor the tail stock.  The tail stock legs have no text in the castings and the cabinet door says "Dalton Machine Co Inc, New York USA".  The thread chart says New York also.  Does this help you hone in on what year it is?
 
Of the missing original components are:
1) The original tail stock hand wheel.  The one on the tail stock is a newer, cheaper replacement.  It works but its not the real deal.
2) The compound slide graduated collar and handle.  The simply is no coller and the handle is a homemade job.
3) The cross slide lead screw cover
4) One of the spring lock collars on the end of the change gear shafts to keep the gears from sliding off.  There are two, but the third is gone.
 
If you, or anyone for that matter, happens to have any of these parts I'd love to have a chance to purchase them.
 
There are a couple of broken castings.  There is a chip out of the top of the change gear cover.  There is also a chip off the bottom of the bull gear cover.  I don't anticipate being able to find replacements for these so I was thinking of patching them up with one of the "steel" putty products.
 
Thanks for any help you can offer.
Randy
 


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Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] New Dalton Lathe Owner - B-4, Lot 4, 1795
To: daltonlathes@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, November 2, 2009, 11:06 PM

 
Hi Randy
 
OK I cant see a patent tag on the end door and I also cant see on the tail stock.  If it does in fact have a tag on the tail stock your lathe was built before 1916.  You have most of the planetary overhead silent chain drive.  It has had much modifications done to it as most have.
 
The lathe looks complete with what looks to be a full set of change gears and you have a 3C collet draw bar.  On the tail stock leg does it say Dalton of NY and does the cabinet door say Sound Beach?  I have one like this.
 
Randy my name is Dennis Turk and I have the only stock of used spare parts available.  Not a lot but a few as I have parted out several machines like yours.
 
If you go to Andy Sargents web site you will see a registry of Dalton owners.  You will also find the only catalogs we have as well as a biography of Hubert Dalton that was written by the of one of his two great nephews  Hubert Dalton Peck.  The author was once married to Hubert and here name is Gay Howard of California.   http://oldarn. com/dalton/
 
Check out Andy's site as well as go to Tony Griffiths site in England if have not done so.   There is some history there also.
 
Welcome to the Dalton gang of lathe owners Randy.
 
Dennis Turk
----- Original Message -----
From: oakdooley
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:54 PM
Subject: [daltonlathes] New Dalton Lathe Owner - B-4, Lot 4, 1795

 
Hi all, This past Saturday I purchased a Dalton lathe that I came across on C-List. I just added a photo album named "Randy Harmeling's B-4". I'm a rookie when it comes to metal lathes, so I'm looking forward to learning a lot from you all. There are a few missing parts which I hope to replace with actual Dalton parts - hopefully donor parts aren't impossible to find. I'm sure I'll post many questions regarding its operation and maintenance. For now I just wanted to introduce myself and share some photos. One question - could someone tell me what year my lathe was manufactured?

Thanks,
Randy



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#518 From: "Dennis Turk" <dennis.turk2@...>
Date: Wed Nov 4, 2009 5:22 am
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Hi Randy
 
There are a couple of things that date your lathe.  The half nut handle for one.  does it have a set screw to hold it in place or is there a taper pin securing it?  Take pictures of the damaged parts and also were missing parts go and I will see what I have for spares.
 
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: RLH
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] New Dalton Lathe Owner - B-4, Lot 4, 1795

 

Dennis,
 
I cannot find a patent tag on neither the gear door nor the tail stock.  The tail stock legs have no text in the castings and the cabinet door says "Dalton Machine Co Inc, New York USA".  The thread chart says New York also.  Does this help you hone in on what year it is?
 
Of the missing original components are:
1) The original tail stock hand wheel.  The one on the tail stock is a newer, cheaper replacement.  It works but its not the real deal.
2) The compound slide graduated collar and handle.  The simply is no coller and the handle is a homemade job.
3) The cross slide lead screw cover
4) One of the spring lock collars on the end of the change gear shafts to keep the gears from sliding off.  There are two, but the third is gone.
 
If you, or anyone for that matter, happens to have any of these parts I'd love to have a chance to purchase them.
 
There are a couple of broken castings.  There is a chip out of the top of the change gear cover.  There is also a chip off the bottom of the bull gear cover.  I don't anticipate being able to find replacements for these so I was thinking of patching them up with one of the "steel" putty products.
 
Thanks for any help you can offer.
Randy
 


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Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] New Dalton Lathe Owner - B-4, Lot 4, 1795
To: daltonlathes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 2, 2009, 11:06 PM

 
Hi Randy
 
OK I cant see a patent tag on the end door and I also cant see on the tail stock.  If it does in fact have a tag on the tail stock your lathe was built before 1916.  You have most of the planetary overhead silent chain drive.  It has had much modifications done to it as most have.
 
The lathe looks complete with what looks to be a full set of change gears and you have a 3C collet draw bar.  On the tail stock leg does it say Dalton of NY and does the cabinet door say Sound Beach?  I have one like this.
 
Randy my name is Dennis Turk and I have the only stock of used spare parts available.  Not a lot but a few as I have parted out several machines like yours.
 
If you go to Andy Sargents web site you will see a registry of Dalton owners.  You will also find the only catalogs we have as well as a biography of Hubert Dalton that was written by the of one of his two great nephews  Hubert Dalton Peck.  The author was once married to Hubert and here name is Gay Howard of California.   http://oldarn. com/dalton/
 
Check out Andy's site as well as go to Tony Griffiths site in England if have not done so.   There is some history there also.
 
Welcome to the Dalton gang of lathe owners Randy.
 
Dennis Turk
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:54 PM
Subject: [daltonlathes] New Dalton Lathe Owner - B-4, Lot 4, 1795

 
Hi all, This past Saturday I purchased a Dalton lathe that I came across on C-List. I just added a photo album named "Randy Harmeling's B-4". I'm a rookie when it comes to metal lathes, so I'm looking forward to learning a lot from you all. There are a few missing parts which I hope to replace with actual Dalton parts - hopefully donor parts aren't impossible to find. I'm sure I'll post many questions regarding its operation and maintenance. For now I just wanted to introduce myself and share some photos. One question - could someone tell me what year my lathe was manufactured?

Thanks,
Randy



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#517 From: RLH <oakdooley@...>
Date: Wed Nov 4, 2009 4:00 am
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Dennis,
 
I cannot find a patent tag on neither the gear door nor the tail stock.  The tail stock legs have no text in the castings and the cabinet door says "Dalton Machine Co Inc, New York USA".  The thread chart says New York also.  Does this help you hone in on what year it is?
 
Of the missing original components are:
1) The original tail stock hand wheel.  The one on the tail stock is a newer, cheaper replacement.  It works but its not the real deal.
2) The compound slide graduated collar and handle.  The simply is no coller and the handle is a homemade job.
3) The cross slide lead screw cover
4) One of the spring lock collars on the end of the change gear shafts to keep the gears from sliding off.  There are two, but the third is gone.
 
If you, or anyone for that matter, happens to have any of these parts I'd love to have a chance to purchase them.
 
There are a couple of broken castings.  There is a chip out of the top of the change gear cover.  There is also a chip off the bottom of the bull gear cover.  I don't anticipate being able to find replacements for these so I was thinking of patching them up with one of the "steel" putty products.
 
Thanks for any help you can offer.
Randy
 


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From: Dennis Turk <dennis.turk2@...>
Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] New Dalton Lathe Owner - B-4, Lot 4, 1795
To: daltonlathes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 2, 2009, 11:06 PM

 
Hi Randy
 
OK I cant see a patent tag on the end door and I also cant see on the tail stock.  If it does in fact have a tag on the tail stock your lathe was built before 1916.  You have most of the planetary overhead silent chain drive.  It has had much modifications done to it as most have.
 
The lathe looks complete with what looks to be a full set of change gears and you have a 3C collet draw bar.  On the tail stock leg does it say Dalton of NY and does the cabinet door say Sound Beach?  I have one like this.
 
Randy my name is Dennis Turk and I have the only stock of used spare parts available.  Not a lot but a few as I have parted out several machines like yours.
 
If you go to Andy Sargents web site you will see a registry of Dalton owners.  You will also find the only catalogs we have as well as a biography of Hubert Dalton that was written by the of one of his two great nephews  Hubert Dalton Peck.  The author was once married to Hubert and here name is Gay Howard of California.   http://oldarn. com/dalton/
 
Check out Andy's site as well as go to Tony Griffiths site in England if have not done so.   There is some history there also.
 
Welcome to the Dalton gang of lathe owners Randy.
 
Dennis Turk
----- Original Message -----
From: oakdooley
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:54 PM
Subject: [daltonlathes] New Dalton Lathe Owner - B-4, Lot 4, 1795

 
Hi all, This past Saturday I purchased a Dalton lathe that I came across on C-List. I just added a photo album named "Randy Harmeling's B-4". I'm a rookie when it comes to metal lathes, so I'm looking forward to learning a lot from you all. There are a few missing parts which I hope to replace with actual Dalton parts - hopefully donor parts aren't impossible to find. I'm sure I'll post many questions regarding its operation and maintenance. For now I just wanted to introduce myself and share some photos. One question - could someone tell me what year my lathe was manufactured?

Thanks,
Randy



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#516 From: "Dennis Turk" <dennis.turk2@...>
Date: Wed Nov 4, 2009 3:05 am
Subject: Re: Combo bed length? 		dturkcars
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Hi Kelly
 
OK the beds on all old machine say pre 1950 were measured by the overall length of the bed proper.  So a 36 inch bed would yield about 18 inches between centers. Different for different brand of lathes.
 
I am not sure how the combo machines beds were measured.  I would think it was from the back of the head stock to the end of the bed.  I have never seen a bed turret for a combo machine but there was one for the smaller Daltons.  I think one of our guys just outside of Chicago has one along with all the rest of the unique tooling that Dalton built.  I could have seen it a little over a year ago but I did not wont to drive that close to Chicogo.  I skirted around it as I was coming from Green Bay and headed to Steve Wells home just East of Indianapolis.  I do have some pictures of some of his accessories and they are fibulas to say the least.  Sure would like to have some of them as he has two Dalton lathes that are like new.  Least all the accessories are new. 
 
Here are some photos of Ralph Ferons accessories.  When a Dalton was shipped from the factory with a lever collet closer it got a very special guard that covered the closer and the end gear on the spindle.  My Dalton 9 has such a part but until I seen Ralphs pictures I did not know what it was for.  Ralph has other accessories to his Daltons also.
 
Turk
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How did Dalton measure bead length? Was it between centers or the full length of the bed? Also, are the Combination Machines measured differently? Also while I'm asking dumb questions, did the Combo come with a turret tool holder? Thanks for any info, PK.



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#515 From: "Dennis Turk" <dennis.turk2@...>
Date: Wed Nov 4, 2009 2:46 am
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Hi mike
 
Some of the very early Lot 5 lathes were built like this also as I finally found one.  The lower drive shaft drives a worm gear in the apron for power longitudinal feed but like all Daltons even the combination machine old Hubert did not think a machinist needed power cross feed on a small machine.  The serial number Lot 5 Daltons after about 100 did not get this setup but rather a keyway in the lead screw to drive the worm gear just like SB Sheldon and other did.  Even the Dalton 9 which was there biggest conventional lathe used the double shaft drive.  There is a prototype that was found in Florida and I did save the photos of it though I could not save it from the old farmer that had no interest in its historic value.  We did save them and you can see them on Tony Griffiths site in England.  This by the way was a 11 1/2 inch swing lathe of very robust fitments.  http://www.lathes.co.uk/dalton/page5.html
 
Turk
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Looking at various Daltons it seems the lot 6 variety has an extra shaft running parallel to and above the lead screw. If Daltons didn't come with cross feed what is the purpose of this shaft?



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Looking at various Daltons it seems the lot 6 variety has an extra shaft running
parallel to and above the lead screw. If Daltons didn't come with cross feed
what is the purpose of this shaft?

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the bed? Also, are the Combination Machines measured differently? Also while I'm
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any info, PK.

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#512 From: "Dennis Turk" <dennis.turk2@...>
Date: Tue Nov 3, 2009 5:06 am
Subject: Re: New Dalton Lathe Owner - B-4, Lot 4, 1795 		dturkcars
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Hi Randy
 
OK I cant see a patent tag on the end door and I also cant see on the tail stock.  If it does in fact have a tag on the tail stock your lathe was built before 1916.  You have most of the planetary overhead silent chain drive.  It has had much modifications done to it as most have.
 
The lathe looks complete with what looks to be a full set of change gears and you have a 3C collet draw bar.  On the tail stock leg does it say Dalton of NY and does the cabinet door say Sound Beach?  I have one like this.
 
Randy my name is Dennis Turk and I have the only stock of used spare parts available.  Not a lot but a few as I have parted out several machines like yours.
 
If you go to Andy Sargents web site you will see a registry of Dalton owners.  You will also find the only catalogs we have as well as a biography of Hubert Dalton that was written by the of one of his two great nephews  Hubert Dalton Peck.  The author was once married to Hubert and here name is Gay Howard of California.   http://oldarn.com/dalton/
 
Check out Andy's site as well as go to Tony Griffiths site in England if have not done so.   There is some history there also.
 
Welcome to the Dalton gang of lathe owners Randy.
 
Dennis Turk
----- Original Message -----
From: oakdooley
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:54 PM
Subject: [daltonlathes] New Dalton Lathe Owner - B-4, Lot 4, 1795

 

Hi all, This past Saturday I purchased a Dalton lathe that I came across on C-List. I just added a photo album named "Randy Harmeling's B-4". I'm a rookie when it comes to metal lathes, so I'm looking forward to learning a lot from you all. There are a few missing parts which I hope to replace with actual Dalton parts - hopefully donor parts aren't impossible to find. I'm sure I'll post many questions regarding its operation and maintenance. For now I just wanted to introduce myself and share some photos. One question - could someone tell me what year my lathe was manufactured?

Thanks,
Randy



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#511 From: "oakdooley" <oakdooley@...>
Date: Tue Nov 3, 2009 3:54 am
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Hi all, This past Saturday I purchased a Dalton lathe that I came across on
C-List.  I just added a photo album named "Randy Harmeling's B-4".  I'm a rookie
when it comes to metal lathes, so I'm looking forward to learning a lot from you
all.  There are a few missing parts which I hope to replace with actual Dalton
parts - hopefully donor parts aren't impossible to find.  I'm sure I'll post
many questions regarding its operation and maintenance.  For now I just wanted
to introduce myself and share some photos.  One question - could someone tell me
what year my lathe was manufactured?

Thanks,
Randy

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#510 From: "Dennis Turk" <dennis.turk2@...>
Date: Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:49 pm
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Hi all
 
Will Steer or Andyswift on eBay just sent this link to me about a Dalton Lot 6 on cabinet and leg stand that is for sale.  If interested in looking at it here is the link.
 
 
Dennis Turk

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#509 From: "thud72" <thud72@...>
Date: Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:13 pm
Subject: Re: Thanks Dennis,My babbit is slowly getting better! 		thud72
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Mike,
   Here is a link to a post that Dennis helped me with. Not only does he list the
all the gears, he also says where they all go.
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/daltonlathes/message/419
Hope this helps too.

Dan

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> I have been following Dennis's advice (instructions) to shim and scrape the
babbit in. So far I'm seeing positive results, but it is however time comsuming
as he said it would be. But I think It'll do just fine.
>  On anaother note, I know of another Dalton for sale and it comes with the
change gears that mine lacks. I can't seem to find a list for the complete
change gear set in order to know if his set is complete. Can anyone help here?
> Thanks, Mike
>

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#508 From: "Dennis Turk" <dennis.turk2@...>
Date: Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:11 pm
Subject: Re: Thanks Dennis,My babbit is slowly getting better! 		dturkcars
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Mike there is a list of change gears required for the Lot 2 3 4 and 5 as well as the lot 6 on Andy Sargents site.  Here is the link.
 
http://oldarn.com/dalton/catalogs/Dalton_gear_chart.pdf  For a complete set you need one gear that is listed in the stud and also the screw lead screw chart.  You will also need two 32 tooth gears for one of the threads you may wont to cut.  One of these days I will make a list for all the Lot numbers and there complete set of change gears and put them in the file section.
 
Turk
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Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 3:45 PM
Subject: [daltonlathes] Thanks Dennis,My babbit is slowly getting better!

 

I have been following Dennis's advice (instructions) to shim and scrape the babbit in. So far I'm seeing positive results, but it is however time comsuming as he said it would be. But I think It'll do just fine.
On anaother note, I know of another Dalton for sale and it comes with the change gears that mine lacks. I can't seem to find a list for the complete change gear set in order to know if his set is complete. Can anyone help here?
Thanks, Mike



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#507 From: "thud72" <thud72@...>
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Here is a link from Andy's Oldarn site. This is where I got my info from.
http://oldarn.com/dalton/catalogs/Dalton_gear_chart.pdf Hope this helps.

Dan

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> I have been following Dennis's advice (instructions) to shim and scrape the
babbit in. So far I'm seeing positive results, but it is however time comsuming
as he said it would be. But I think It'll do just fine.
>  On anaother note, I know of another Dalton for sale and it comes with the
change gears that mine lacks. I can't seem to find a list for the complete
change gear set in order to know if his set is complete. Can anyone help here?
> Thanks, Mike
>

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#506 From: "mike" <oddball_racing@...>
Date: Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:45 pm
Subject: Thanks Dennis,My babbit is slowly getting better! 		oddball_racing
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I have been following Dennis's advice (instructions) to shim and scrape the
babbit in. So far I'm seeing positive results, but it is however time comsuming
as he said it would be. But I think It'll do just fine.
  On anaother note, I know of another Dalton for sale and it comes with the
change gears that mine lacks. I can't seem to find a list for the complete
change gear set in order to know if his set is complete. Can anyone help here?
Thanks, Mike

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#505 From: L Leonard <metalmechanic@...>
Date: Sat Oct 24, 2009 1:11 am
Subject: Re: Updating the Known Dalton lathes list question. 		metalmechanic
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Different Larry but I thought I'd share some info.  Seems the new version firefox doesn't like hotmail.  About half the email features are disabled or morph into endless loops in eather space.  There are a lot of angry people out there.
Larry Leonard

--- On Fri, 10/23/09, Dennis Turk <dennis.turk2@...> wrote:

From: Dennis Turk <dennis.turk2@...>
Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] Updating the Known Dalton lathes list question.
To: daltonlathes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, October 23, 2009, 12:45 PM



Hi Larry
 
Do you mean you could not contact Andy?  So far his email address has been working for me.  Some have told me they could not access his web site but when I try I always get on.  Wonder if his old web software is now being identified as spam by some anti virus software's.
 
Turk
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Subject: [daltonlathes] Updating the Known Dalton lathes list question.

 

Does anyone know how this happens? I tried to sending it a couple of times to andy@sargent. net. The following is the information that I was trying to add:

I picked up another Dalton B-4, to add to the list. It is a Lot 4 s/n 2719, with a 36" bed; no accessories.

Larry Robinson



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#504 From: larry robinson <drec98059@...>
Date: Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:50 pm
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Dennis,

I sent a couple of emails to andy@... one in the middle of July and the other in the middle of August with updates to the list; no answer or acknowledgment.  I'm just bringing it up today, because I noticed that it hadn't been updated.  No big deal, just a question.

Larry



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Hi Larry
 
Do you mean you could not contact Andy?  So far his email address has been working for me.  Some have told me they could not access his web site but when I try I always get on.  Wonder if his old web software is now being identified as spam by some anti virus software's.
 
Turk
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Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 9:30 AM
Subject: [daltonlathes] Updating the Known Dalton lathes list question.

 

Does anyone know how this happens? I tried to sending it a couple of times to andy@.... The following is the information that I was trying to add:

I picked up another Dalton B-4, to add to the list. It is a Lot 4 s/n 2719, with a 36" bed; no accessories.

Larry Robinson



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#503 From: "Dennis Turk" <dennis.turk2@...>
Date: Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:45 pm
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Hi Larry
 
Do you mean you could not contact Andy?  So far his email address has been working for me.  Some have told me they could not access his web site but when I try I always get on.  Wonder if his old web software is now being identified as spam by some anti virus software's.
 
Turk
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 9:30 AM
Subject: [daltonlathes] Updating the Known Dalton lathes list question.

 

Does anyone know how this happens? I tried to sending it a couple of times to andy@sargent.net. The following is the information that I was trying to add:

I picked up another Dalton B-4, to add to the list. It is a Lot 4 s/n 2719, with a 36" bed; no accessories.

Larry Robinson



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#502 From: "lalrobinson" <drec98059@...>
Date: Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:30 pm
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Does anyone know how this happens?  I tried to sending it a couple of times to
andy@....  The following is the information that I was trying to add:

I picked up another Dalton B-4, to add to the list.  It is a Lot 4 s/n 2719,
with a 36" bed; no accessories.

Larry Robinson

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#501 From: "Dennis Turk" <dennis.turk2@...>
Date: Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:37 pm
Subject: Re: Chuck back plates 		dturkcars
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Sorry forgot the picture
 
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----- Original Message -----
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Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] Chuck back plates

 

Hi all Dalton guys
 
The old Turk is into a major improvement project at the old Turk Works.  For one if you guys could have seen what my shop had turned into you would be ashamed of me.  Dirt clutter jammed to the ceiling with just plan stuff.  I had so many South Bend Dalton Flather Champion Goddell and Pratt and a few other obscure brands of lathes jammed into this building that I could not even move around.  Then I got into rebuilding mini bike motors for my nieces husband as well as restoring the Go Cart that I raced to the Oregon championship in my class in 1961.  Ya that project was fun as I found the cart almost two years ago but it took me till six months ago to get the guy to sell it back to me.  I even went to Medford Oregon in September to race it at the vintage cart race they hold there ever year.  Well kind of raced it.  My motor still needs some work and I just plain ran out of time.  Picture of the old fart and his cart included.
 
So what is going on at the Turk works is I have setup up 4 6 and 8 foot long 7 feet high 2 feet deep storage racks with five to six shelves over in one bay of my car storage garage.  In the last week I have moved over three tons of machines and parts.   Mostly parts.  The plan is to keep all spare parts stored there as well as projects not being worked on.  My plan is to get my shop cleared out cleaned up and put back into some semblance of order. At the same time get a handle on what I am restoring. 
 
Now what is this all leading up to.  Well just this.  I will for the first time be able to see all the stuff I have for Dalton lathes in one area and as I put them away on the self's I am doing two things.  Lathes that are worthy of restoration I am organizing on shelf's and lathes that are not I am disposing of broken unusable parts and then putting all the usable parts on shelf's stored buy type and size.  What this means after I get this current project complete I will know for the first time what all I have available in spare parts.  That will include some chucks and other tooling.  Tool post tool holders and such.  After I get this done I will be posting a list of all the stuff that will be available for sale.
 
As long as the Vicadin pain killer holds out I should be able to get this done in the next week or two.  Been working about six or seven hours a day as that is all my artificial hip and beat up old back will take.  Interesting how creative old people get to do heavy work  that was so easy when your young and so difficult when you get older.  I have moved stuff the 200 feet over to the new facility by using a very nice caster wheeled cart we us up at my business.  I can put about 400 pounds on this cart and then very carefully and slowly move it over to the garage and mark and store stuff away.  Yes I did say mark parts to make model and in some cases what the part is.  This I am doing as some day a lot of the huge store of early South Bend parts will be sold off on eBay.
 
So I will keep you guys up to date as to when and what will be available.  Hell I even have found change gears I did not know I had.  Also a Lot 3 serial number 613 I did not remember even having.  Nice lathe to."-))))
 
The old and feeling much older Turk
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: butch
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] Chuck back plates

 

thank you for letting me know!!  still need one!!!!!!!!
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Denny
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 8:04 AM
Subject: [daltonlathes] Chuck back plates

 

Hi All

Just got an email from Jeff Beck tools4cheap and there was a screw up in China on the back plates. Seams they did not consider it a legitimate order and so had not built the back plates yet. Jeff said that has been corrected but there will be another delay of about two months getting the back plates over here.

These are the back plates that will fit you Lot 2 3 4 and 5 with the 1 1/4 - 12 spindles. Again Jeff has back plates for the 10L SB that used the 1 7/8 - 8 spindle thread and these will fit your Lot 6 and Dalton 9 inch lathes.

Turk



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#500 From: "Dennis Turk" <dennis.turk2@...>
Date: Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:23 pm
Subject: Re: Chuck back plates 		dturkcars
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Hi all Dalton guys
 
The old Turk is into a major improvement project at the old Turk Works.  For one if you guys could have seen what my shop had turned into you would be ashamed of me.  Dirt clutter jammed to the ceiling with just plan stuff.  I had so many South Bend Dalton Flather Champion Goddell and Pratt and a few other obscure brands of lathes jammed into this building that I could not even move around.  Then I got into rebuilding mini bike motors for my nieces husband as well as restoring the Go Cart that I raced to the Oregon championship in my class in 1961.  Ya that project was fun as I found the cart almost two years ago but it took me till six months ago to get the guy to sell it back to me.  I even went to Medford Oregon in September to race it at the vintage cart race they hold there ever year.  Well kind of raced it.  My motor still needs some work and I just plain ran out of time.  Picture of the old fart and his cart included.
 
So what is going on at the Turk works is I have setup up 4 6 and 8 foot long 7 feet high 2 feet deep storage racks with five to six shelves over in one bay of my car storage garage.  In the last week I have moved over three tons of machines and parts.   Mostly parts.  The plan is to keep all spare parts stored there as well as projects not being worked on.  My plan is to get my shop cleared out cleaned up and put back into some semblance of order. At the same time get a handle on what I am restoring. 
 
Now what is this all leading up to.  Well just this.  I will for the first time be able to see all the stuff I have for Dalton lathes in one area and as I put them away on the self's I am doing two things.  Lathes that are worthy of restoration I am organizing on shelf's and lathes that are not I am disposing of broken unusable parts and then putting all the usable parts on shelf's stored buy type and size.  What this means after I get this current project complete I will know for the first time what all I have available in spare parts.  That will include some chucks and other tooling.  Tool post tool holders and such.  After I get this done I will be posting a list of all the stuff that will be available for sale.
 
As long as the Vicadin pain killer holds out I should be able to get this done in the next week or two.  Been working about six or seven hours a day as that is all my artificial hip and beat up old back will take.  Interesting how creative old people get to do heavy work  that was so easy when your young and so difficult when you get older.  I have moved stuff the 200 feet over to the new facility by using a very nice caster wheeled cart we us up at my business.  I can put about 400 pounds on this cart and then very carefully and slowly move it over to the garage and mark and store stuff away.  Yes I did say mark parts to make model and in some cases what the part is.  This I am doing as some day a lot of the huge store of early South Bend parts will be sold off on eBay.
 
So I will keep you guys up to date as to when and what will be available.  Hell I even have found change gears I did not know I had.  Also a Lot 3 serial number 613 I did not remember even having.  Nice lathe to."-))))
 
The old and feeling much older Turk
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: butch
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] Chuck back plates

 

thank you for letting me know!!  still need one!!!!!!!!
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Denny
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 8:04 AM
Subject: [daltonlathes] Chuck back plates

 

Hi All

Just got an email from Jeff Beck tools4cheap and there was a screw up in China on the back plates. Seams they did not consider it a legitimate order and so had not built the back plates yet. Jeff said that has been corrected but there will be another delay of about two months getting the back plates over here.

These are the back plates that will fit you Lot 2 3 4 and 5 with the 1 1/4 - 12 spindles. Again Jeff has back plates for the 10L SB that used the 1 7/8 - 8 spindle thread and these will fit your Lot 6 and Dalton 9 inch lathes.

Turk



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