Hi Gang

Well John Poysner got that Lot 6 that was for sale on some list that I am not
sure of right  now.  This has to be the newest Dalton we have found and also is
one of the best original condition machines I have ever seen.  I am going to
upload some pictures of it for John so take a look after I get them posted.

Dennis Turk

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From: kellysdaybreak

To: daltonlathes@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 5:05 PM

Subject: [daltonlathes] Re: Prepping a Combo for the first spin up?

 

Thanks for the reply. I've posted some pictures under Pat's Dalton Combo on this forum toward the bottom of the list. If you look at the one of the tool post you'll see it's not a lantern type. I haven't seen this on other Dalton's and was wondering if this is stock.
I didn't know about the oil. I've been using Turbine 68 oil in my lathes. Gonna have to change that. I got this old Combo at an auction right here in Noxon. I had never seen anything like it. What a great old machine. PK

--- In daltonlathes@yahoogroups.com, "Dennis Turk" <dennis.turk2@...> wrote:
>
> Hi John and Kelly
>
> Well all the information I can give you is lots of oil. Good grade of spindle oil not motor oil. Motor oil has chemicals in it to keep particulate matter in suspension and that is not what you wont on your lathe. You could use 30 weight motor oil for lead screw bushings and some very slow moving or revolving shafts but the spindle bearings need a good spindle oil. If either of you guys dont have How To Run a Lathe by South Bend you should get this small book. It has a wealth of info in it that pertains to all lathes not just SB lathes. One thing to remember is your lathes are one of a kinds and there are no spare parts around for them so keep safety in mind. Also what ever drive you have for the spindle try and not go over 600 to 800 rpm. These old girls usually ran in the 500 rpm range or less. The little Dalton home shop lathes were setup to run at around 480 rpm and I have kept them under 800 with good oil. This seams to work OK.
>
> When I first got into Dalton lathes and did a little research I never figured I would ever see a combo machine given there size and rarity. The very first one found was here in Oregon at a Farm auction. That is the one you see on Tony Griffiths site. Those are the pictures I took of it. I think we count five or six of them now.
>
> Have fun with your lathes.
>
> Dennis Turk
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: callin john
> To: daltonlathes@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 3:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] Prepping a Combo for the first spin up?
>
>
>
> PK,
> I have a combo also. I would be interested in pix and to hear about your adventures. I never have figured out how to use mine. I'm no machinist by any means. I don't know a thing about cutters, etc. I still have the old style tool post and funky HSS cutters. I'd like to upgrade it to something a bit more modern and user (dummy) friendly, but don't know which way to go. I'm 62 years old and the last lathe I ran was in HS metal shop. I wasn't very good then, either. John Callin
>
> --- On Tue, 11/10/09, kellysdaybreak <nox2743@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: kellysdaybreak <nox2743@...>
> Subject: [daltonlathes] Prepping a Combo for the first spin up?
> To: daltonlathes@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 3:45 PM
>
>
>
> I'm getting my Dalton Combination Machine ready to spin up and put to work. I'd like to hear some suggestions on getting an old machine that has sat idle for years. It is stiff to turn and information is scarce on this machine. Thanks for any help, PK.
>
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Thanks for the reply. I've posted some pictures under Pat's Dalton Combo  on
this forum toward the bottom of the list. If you look at the one of the tool
post you'll see it's not a lantern type. I haven't seen this on other Dalton's
and was wondering if this is stock.
I didn't know about the oil. I've been using Turbine 68 oil in my lathes. Gonna
have to change that. I got this old Combo at an auction right here in Noxon. I
had never seen anything like it. What a great old machine. PK

--- In daltonlathes@yahoogroups.com, "Dennis Turk" <dennis.turk2@...> wrote:
>
> Hi John and Kelly
>
> Well all the information I can give you is lots of oil.  Good grade of spindle
oil not motor oil.  Motor oil has chemicals in it to keep particulate matter in
suspension and that is not what you wont on your lathe.  You could use 30 weight
motor oil for lead screw bushings and some very slow moving or revolving shafts
but the spindle bearings need a good spindle oil.  If either of you guys dont
have How To Run a Lathe by South Bend you should get this small book.  It has a
wealth of info in it that pertains to all lathes not just SB lathes.  One thing
to remember is your lathes are one of a kinds and there are no spare parts
around for them so keep safety in mind.  Also what ever drive you have for the
spindle try and not go over 600 to 800 rpm.  These old girls usually ran in the
500 rpm range or less.  The little Dalton home shop lathes were setup to run at
around 480 rpm and I have kept them under 800 with good oil.  This seams to work
OK.
>
>  When I first got into Dalton lathes and did a little research I never figured
I would ever see a combo machine given there size and rarity.  The very first
one found was here in Oregon at a Farm auction.  That is the one you see on Tony
Griffiths site.  Those are the pictures I took of it.  I think we count five or
six of them now.
>
> Have fun with your lathes.
>
> Dennis Turk
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: callin john
>   To: daltonlathes@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 3:59 PM
>   Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] Prepping a Combo for the first spin up?
>
>
>
>         PK,
>         I have a combo also. I would be interested in pix and to hear about
your adventures. I never have figured out how to use mine. I'm no machinist by
any means. I don't know a thing about cutters, etc. I still have the old style
tool post and funky HSS cutters. I'd like to upgrade it to something a bit more
modern and user (dummy) friendly, but don't know which way to go. I'm 62 years
old and the last lathe I ran was in HS metal shop. I wasn't very good then,
either.    John Callin
>
>         --- On Tue, 11/10/09, kellysdaybreak <nox2743@...> wrote:
>
>
>           From: kellysdaybreak <nox2743@...>
>           Subject: [daltonlathes] Prepping a Combo for the first spin up?
>           To: daltonlathes@yahoogroups.com
>           Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 3:45 PM
>
>
>
>           I'm getting my Dalton Combination Machine ready to spin up and put
to work. I'd like to hear some suggestions on getting an old machine that has
sat idle for years. It is stiff to turn and information is scarce on this
machine. Thanks for any help, PK.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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----- Original Message -----

From: callin john

To: daltonlathes@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 3:59 PM

Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] Prepping a Combo for the first spin up?

 

PK, I have a combo also. I would be interested in pix and to hear about your adventures. I never have figured out how to use mine. I'm no machinist by any means. I don't know a thing about cutters, etc. I still have the old style tool post and funky HSS cutters. I'd like to upgrade it to something a bit more modern and user (dummy) friendly, but don't know which way to go. I'm 62 years old and the last lathe I ran was in HS metal shop. I wasn't very good then, either.    John Callin --- On Tue, 11/10/09, kellysdaybreak <nox2743@blackfoot.net> wrote: From: kellysdaybreak <nox2743@blackfoot.net> Subject: [daltonlathes] Prepping a Combo for the first spin up? To: daltonlathes@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 3:45 PM   I'm getting my Dalton Combination Machine ready to spin up and put to work. I'd like to hear some suggestions on getting an old machine that has sat idle for years. It is stiff to turn and information is scarce on this machine. Thanks for any help, PK.

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Thanks Dennis,
My 1928 Southbend is measured that way, it has an 8 foot bed. So that wa sthe
standard of the day. I have a big old Hendy I'll have to measure up. It looks to
be about 10 feet long. PK

--- In daltonlathes@yahoogroups.com, "Dennis Turk" <dennis.turk2@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Kelly
>
> OK the beds on all old machine say pre 1950 were measured by the overall
length of the bed proper.  So a 36 inch bed would yield about 18 inches between
centers. Different for different brand of lathes.
>
> I am not sure how the combo machines beds were measured.  I would think it was
from the back of the head stock to the end of the bed.  I have never seen a bed
turret for a combo machine but there was one for the smaller Daltons.  I think
one of our guys just outside of Chicago has one along with all the rest of the
unique tooling that Dalton built.  I could have seen it a little over a year ago
but I did not wont to drive that close to Chicogo.  I skirted around it as I was
coming from Green Bay and headed to Steve Wells home just East of Indianapolis. 
I do have some pictures of some of his accessories and they are fibulas to say
the least.  Sure would like to have some of them as he has two Dalton lathes
that are like new.  Least all the accessories are new.
>
> Here are some photos of Ralph Ferons accessories.  When a Dalton was shipped
from the factory with a lever collet closer it got a very special guard that
covered the closer and the end gear on the spindle.  My Dalton 9 has such a part
but until I seen Ralphs pictures I did not know what it was for.  Ralph has
other accessories to his Daltons also.
>
> Turk
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: kellysdaybreak
>   To: daltonlathes@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 5:57 PM
>   Subject: [daltonlathes] Combo bed length?
>
>
>     How did Dalton measure bead length? Was it between centers or the full
length of the bed? Also, are the Combination Machines measured differently? Also
while I'm asking dumb questions, did the Combo come with a turret tool holder?
Thanks for any info, PK.
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I'm getting my Dalton Combination Machine ready to spin up and put to work. I'd
like to hear some suggestions on getting an old machine that has sat idle for
years. It is stiff to turn and information is scarce on this machine. Thanks for
any help, PK.