[Resending ... the original email didn't show up ...] Checkout <http://www.groove.net/about/press/> http://www.groove.net/about/press/ Cheers, Michael Herman ...
In article <000401c1e5c5$acee4920$1d02a8c0@psntp001>, Michael Herman <mwherman2000@...> writes ... It feels to me like Groove have hit that point where...
... For what it's worth, one of the Groove guys swore up and down to me that there was very little direct Microsoft involvement. Any anyhow, the Linux version...
... The personal version is still free, which I take to be an attempt to keep the viral effect going. (http://www.groove.net/downloads/groove/) -clay...
Clay Shirky
clay@...
Apr 18, 2002 11:10 am
In article <200204181110.g3IBA6TU025738@...>, Clay Shirky <clay@...> writes ... Indeed, the Preview is free. But it's also hobbled....
... Oh come on. There is no chance of a widespread adoption, since its a completely Windows product. The platform price increases continually, and it lacks...
... Yeah, those Windows apps never get widespread adoption, since there are so few people using Windows, and so many people fleeing to Linux on the desktop...
Encouragingly, when it comes to collaboration software, the marketplace *does* still value cross-platform applications. At least in the space we play in,...
Brian Behlendorf
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Apr 19, 2002 4:13 am
... security. ... I would be very interested in what measures you use to deride the product on grounds of either privacy or security since this is a...
... I've had difficulty understanding Groove's security; the descriptions on their site are not very informative in my opinion. I am bothered that Groove's...
... There is a fairly detailed chapter on Groove security in the O'Reilly P2P book. It was indeed a web of trust much more than a PKI. PKI integration is an...
... Magi uses a standards-based native X.509 PKI running over an SSL backbone (with SSL running two-ways between peers). Access control to specific resources...
On Fri, 19 Apr 2002 07:58:10 +0100 ... Its difficult to ascertain the security of Groove without knowing the specification and (ideally) the implementation of...
On Fri, 19 Apr 2002 14:12:18 -0700 ... Silently points at wife, secretary, and neighbor all of whom run Linux (or Solaris for secretary, neighbor for...
So it is better to first attack someone or something based on your ignorance? ... From: J C Lawrence [mailto:claw@...] Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 4:22...
Oooh, ha ha ha! Michael shows his true colors, descending into name-calling... (he has also called me ignorant, and my posts "fact-less tirades.") Todd ... ...
... Unfortunately, Michael, because neither you nor Groove (as far as I can see) have provided an up-to-date, coherent description of Groove security, we're...
On Sat, 20 Apr 2002 16:37:54 -0400 ... In security considerations by default I start from a position of distrust. This is both necessary and normal. You...
... Amen to that. I'm sure that Groove hears it every day, if you had a Mac version there would be a lot more adoption. What works for individual products...
Hopefully the extra revenue from covering many platforms will not be completely absorbed by the extra tech support expenses (from covering so many platforms). ...
Josh
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Apr 19, 2002 8:21 pm
At 09:36 AM 4/19/02, Dave said ... You mean, "has the intelligence, foresight and wisdom to be on a non-Windows machine..." bwa ha ! :-) I couldnt...
There's been a lot of interest in and discussion about Groove on this list in the past. I hope others aren't offended. This list probably has as many...
... This is wrong, just numerically. It would obviously be better if Groove had multiple versions, or ran in Java like LimeWire, but given that *hundreds of...
Clay Shirky
clay@...
Apr 19, 2002 12:52 am
You forgot one Michael, Magi 3.0 from Endeavors technology. Windows based currently, with a Mac/Linux version in the future, and can be used on PDA's to boot,...
Magi is a great example of the type of compelling application you can create using existing standards. The fact that it is HTTP/WebDAV at its core is very...
Justin Chapweske
justin@...
Apr 18, 2002 9:04 pm
Just out of curiosity -- what metric are you using to identify Groove as a commercial success? By far they've raised a significant amount of money and have a...
Hi Andy, Yes, a company named Brilliant Digital Entertainment agreed some months ago with Kazaa that every download of Kazaa's media desktop would include ...
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