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Groove Networks has released the latest version of their "mediated   Message List  
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Re: [decentralization] Groove Networks has released the latest version of their "mediated P2P" decentralized business collaboration platform: Groove Workspace Version 2.0

Magi is a great example of the type of compelling application you can
create using existing standards. The fact that it is HTTP/WebDAV at its
core is very powerful for interopability and integration.

Peter Kilby wrote:
> You forgot one Michael, Magi 3.0 from Endeavors technology. Windows based
> currently, with a Mac/Linux version in the future, and can be used on PDA's
> to boot, also with full PKI security (HIPPA compliant at that)

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Justin Chapweske, Onion Networks
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You forgot one Michael, Magi 3.0 from Endeavors technology. Windows based currently, with a Mac/Linux version in the future, and can be used on PDA's to boot,...
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Magi is a great example of the type of compelling application you can create using existing standards. The fact that it is HTTP/WebDAV at its core is very...
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Just out of curiosity -- what metric are you using to identify Groove as a commercial success? By far they've raised a significant amount of money and have a...
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... Didn't kazaa get hauled over for putting some rogue software in their client? Andy...
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Hi Andy, Yes, a company named Brilliant Digital Entertainment agreed some months ago with Kazaa that every download of Kazaa's media desktop would include ...
B2P Info
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Luis et al, ... Hmm funny thing about that agreement, it's not legally binding when entered into by my minor children or their friends who frequently use any...
Zane Thomas
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Apr 19, 2002
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... Distributed ad-serving seems like a pretty brain dead concept. I don't see how they expect to keep the latency at reasonable levels. -- Justin Chapweske,...
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Re: I don't see how they expect to keep the latency at reasonable levels. Justin, Latency of what? I'm trying to understand your comment. Michael. ... From:...
Michael Herman
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Apr 20, 2002
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The latency of retrieving ad images from peers would be rather high. The only way I could see this providing reasonable performance is through some sort of...
Justin Chapweske
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... That wouldn't have to be true. If Brilliant set up a peer on your computer that kept up connections to low-latency peers, you could start the fetch as...
Eric M. Hopper
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Or, if it fetched ads whenever your internet connection was active and then displayed those ads as pop ups independent of your browsing. This is the "new"...
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Kazaa'a latency "solution" is worse ...check machine for C:\WINNT\system32\AdCache. It contains HMTL and images identical to the rotating HTML banners I see ...
Michael Herman
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Andy, ... You mean this? http://news.com.com/2100-1023-873181.html Zane...
Zane Thomas
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Michael, "I've attached a Groove invite for the Decentralized Decentralization Discussion (DDD) space." Ok, I downloaded the 27mb, ran the install, launched...
Zane Thomas
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... You got a lot farther than me. I don't run any Microsoft software on any computer I come in regular contact with. So, I couldn't join even if I wanted...
Eric M. Hopper
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I'll follow-up offline, Zane. I can honestly say your experience isn't typical. I have several dozen clients using Groove on a broad variety of hardware....
Michael Herman
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Eric, "You got a lot farther than me. I don't run any Microsoft software on any computer I come in regular contact with." Ah, I run lots of Microsoft...
Zane Thomas
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... I wouldn't trust the components your company makes. At the very least, Microsoft may one day decide that it's in their best interests that everybody move...
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... I forgot that, at the very worst, your company could be forced, under a contract whose terms you may not disclose, to include any arbritrary code Microsoft...
Eric M. Hopper
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Developers who create applications for Windows aren't required to sign any contracts with Microsoft. ... From: Eric M. Hopper...
Michael Herman
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... Yes they are. It's called a EULA, and Microsoft's EULA for each of their different products is different. ... -- "It does me no injury for my neighbor to...
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... Even if the software were not good, you have every incentive to praise it. Your sales of Mabry components depends on public acceptance of Visual Studio and...
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Todd, ... The praise I have for .Net has no impact on its acceptance. I have to base my expectation of future sales on something more tangible than what I can...
Zane Thomas
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... Does anyone know of any forum where there is an open and active discussion about passport, .net et al? I am looking for some place with a little more ...
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... It's impossible. This list avoids religion as much as any group this size can, and still gets regularly pulled in. a conjecture: meme stickyness is not...
Lucas Gonze
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... Yes, especially in a group discussing decentralization it is not helpful to convince everybody of the "right and only" system (i.e., monoculture =...
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Eric, "I wouldn't trust the components your company makes. At the very least, Microsoft may one day decide that it's in their best interests that everybody...
Zane Thomas
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Eric, "I forgot that, at the very worst, your company could be forced, under a contract whose terms you may not disclose, to include any arbritrary code...
Zane Thomas
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May I argue that if Microsoft, or anyone else succeeded in forcing ISVs generally to add such code, then their business (and Microsoft's) would last not more...
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... Hash: SHA1 ... Contract or not, you are in fact forced to include arbitrary Microsoft code in order to run on Windows. It's called %SystemRoot%, and it...
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