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Re: [decentralization] Laptop Versus Axe

> So what's the plan for Tahoe, Zooko? Are you working on getting it
> bundled with unix distributions? Is your strategy to aim at low-churn
> servers or high-churn clients?

So, yeah, allmydata.com stopped funding new Tahoe development a few
months ago [1]. Tahoe, the Longlived Axe-tolerant File System, is now
a purely volunteer-driven community project. The current version is
already functional and reliable -- it has been in production use in
allmydata.com for more than a year, storing all of the allmydata.com
customer files. Our goals do indeed focus on getting Tahoe included
in Debian, Fedora, Gentoo, and Ubuntu this summer [2].

I'm not sure I understand your question about churning servers and
clients. Tahoe is explicitly designed for low-churn servers -- I've
become increasingly skeptical of the whole notion of relying on
high-churn servers for reliable long-term storage. They don't have to
be expensive reliable servers, though -- allmydata.com uses cheap
commodity servers and other Tahoe deployments use people's home PCs.

The issue of "churn" is irrelevant to Tahoe clients -- nobody else
relies on other clients so they can come and go as they please.

Thanks for asking!

[1] http://allmydata.org/pipermail/tahoe-dev/2009-March/001461.html #
tahoe needs funding! (and Zooko is available for work!)
[2] http://allmydata.org/pipermail/tahoe-dev/2009-April/001627.html #
questions about development priorities for Tahoe-LAFS, summer 2009



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Greetings, people of the decentralization group! Here is the highlight of my presentation at CodeCon last weekend. CodeCon's prime directive is that every...
zookog
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Apr 24, 2009
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I pity the axe. So what's the plan for Tahoe, Zooko? Are you working on getting it bundled with unix distributions? Is your strategy to aim at low-churn ...
Lucas Gonze
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Apr 24, 2009
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... So, yeah, allmydata.com stopped funding new Tahoe development a few months ago [1]. Tahoe, the Longlived Axe-tolerant File System, is now a purely...
Zooko O'Whielacronx
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Apr 24, 2009
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Are you expecting it to be used by nodes that cross an administrative boundary?...
Lucas Gonze
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Apr 29, 2009
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... That's a very good question. The minimal answer is "Yes". The short answer is that you don't rely on the storage servers for confidentiality (all data is...
Zooko O'Whielacronx
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Zooko O'Whielacronx wrote: The two kinds ... This makes me think of a hybrid model where there's a coop of businesses or sophisticated friends. Maybe 5-100...
Lucas Gonze
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That's interesting. Just curious, is it easy to deploy this in a web-facing manner? For example, at Expensify we store a bunch of receipt images. We...
David Barrett
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... Well, yeah it is pretty close to this already. The Tahoe web API listens for PUT and GET, as documented here: ...
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... Yeah! Because a company is more reliable and available and has a lot more capital than one of your friends, but you don't want to put all your eggs in one...
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