Search the web
Sign In
New User? Sign Up
decentralization · Implications of the end-to-end principle
? Already a member? Sign in to Yahoo!

Yahoo! Groups Tips

Did you know...
Hear how Yahoo! Groups has changed the lives of others. Take me there.

Best of Y! Groups

   Check them out and nominate your group.
Having problems with message search? Fill out this form to ensure your group is one of the first to be migrated to the new message search system.

Messages

  Messages Help
Advanced
Laptop Versus Axe   Message List  
Reply | Forward Message #7030 of 7047 |
Re: [decentralization] Laptop Versus Axe

Are you expecting it to be used by nodes that cross an administrative
boundary?


Zooko O'Whielacronx wrote:
>> So what's the plan for Tahoe, Zooko? Are you working on getting it
>> bundled with unix distributions? Is your strategy to aim at low-churn
>> servers or high-churn clients?
>
> So, yeah, allmydata.com stopped funding new Tahoe development a few
> months ago [1]. Tahoe, the Longlived Axe-tolerant File System, is now
> a purely volunteer-driven community project. The current version is
> already functional and reliable -- it has been in production use in
> allmydata.com for more than a year, storing all of the allmydata.com
> customer files. Our goals do indeed focus on getting Tahoe included
> in Debian, Fedora, Gentoo, and Ubuntu this summer [2].
>
> I'm not sure I understand your question about churning servers and
> clients. Tahoe is explicitly designed for low-churn servers -- I've
> become increasingly skeptical of the whole notion of relying on
> high-churn servers for reliable long-term storage. They don't have to
> be expensive reliable servers, though -- allmydata.com uses cheap
> commodity servers and other Tahoe deployments use people's home PCs.
>
> The issue of "churn" is irrelevant to Tahoe clients -- nobody else
> relies on other clients so they can come and go as they please.
>
> Thanks for asking!
>
> [1] http://allmydata.org/pipermail/tahoe-dev/2009-March/001461.html #
> tahoe needs funding! (and Zooko is available for work!)
> [2] http://allmydata.org/pipermail/tahoe-dev/2009-April/001627.html #
> questions about development priorities for Tahoe-LAFS, summer 2009
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>




Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:52 am

lucas_gonze
Offline Offline
Send Email Send Email

Forward
Message #7030 of 7047 |
Expand Messages Author Sort by Date

Greetings, people of the decentralization group! Here is the highlight of my presentation at CodeCon last weekend. CodeCon's prime directive is that every...
zookog
Offline Send Email
Apr 24, 2009
2:36 am

I pity the axe. So what's the plan for Tahoe, Zooko? Are you working on getting it bundled with unix distributions? Is your strategy to aim at low-churn ...
Lucas Gonze
lucas_gonze
Offline Send Email
Apr 24, 2009
4:57 pm

... So, yeah, allmydata.com stopped funding new Tahoe development a few months ago [1]. Tahoe, the Longlived Axe-tolerant File System, is now a purely...
Zooko O'Whielacronx
zookog
Offline Send Email
Apr 24, 2009
8:57 pm

Are you expecting it to be used by nodes that cross an administrative boundary?...
Lucas Gonze
lucas_gonze
Offline Send Email
Apr 29, 2009
4:49 am

... That's a very good question. The minimal answer is "Yes". The short answer is that you don't rely on the storage servers for confidentiality (all data is...
Zooko O'Whielacronx
zookog
Offline Send Email
Apr 30, 2009
6:00 am

Zooko O'Whielacronx wrote: The two kinds ... This makes me think of a hybrid model where there's a coop of businesses or sophisticated friends. Maybe 5-100...
Lucas Gonze
lucas_gonze
Offline Send Email
May 2, 2009
2:14 am

That's interesting. Just curious, is it easy to deploy this in a web-facing manner? For example, at Expensify we store a bunch of receipt images. We...
David Barrett
David_M_Barrett
Offline Send Email
May 2, 2009
3:28 am

... Well, yeah it is pretty close to this already. The Tahoe web API listens for PUT and GET, as documented here: ...
Zooko O'Whielacronx
zookog
Offline Send Email
May 3, 2009
6:21 am

... Yeah! Because a company is more reliable and available and has a lot more capital than one of your friends, but you don't want to put all your eggs in one...
Zooko O'Whielacronx
zookog
Offline Send Email
May 3, 2009
6:21 am
Advanced

Copyright © 2009 Yahoo! Inc. All rights reserved.
Privacy Policy - Terms of Service - Guidelines - Help