Just out of curiosity -- what metric are you using to identify Groove as a commercial success? By far they've raised a significant amount of money and have a...
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Todd Boyle
toddboyle
Apr 18, 2002 11:45 pm
ROFL! I deserved that I guess TOdd...
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Clay Shirky
clay@...
Apr 19, 2002 12:52 am
... This is wrong, just numerically. It would obviously be better if Groove had multiple versions, or ran in Java like LimeWire, but given that *hundreds of...
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Brian Behlendorf
brian@...
Apr 19, 2002 4:13 am
Encouragingly, when it comes to collaboration software, the marketplace *does* still value cross-platform applications. At least in the space we play in,...
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aswarbrick@...
andyswbs
Apr 19, 2002 7:36 am
... Didn't kazaa get hauled over for putting some rogue software in their client? Andy...
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aswarbrick@...
andyswbs
Apr 19, 2002 8:10 am
... security. ... I would be very interested in what measures you use to deride the product on grounds of either privacy or security since this is a...
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B2P Info
licortes
Apr 19, 2002 8:16 am
Hi Andy, Yes, a company named Brilliant Digital Entertainment agreed some months ago with Kazaa that every download of Kazaa's media desktop would include ...
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Zane Thomas
zthomas
Apr 19, 2002 8:16 am
Andy, ... You mean this? http://news.com.com/2100-1023-873181.html Zane...
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mark_friedman_cruxus
mark_friedma...
Apr 19, 2002 8:35 am
... I've had difficulty understanding Groove's security; the descriptions on their site are not very informative in my opinion. I am bothered that Groove's...
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Zane Thomas
zthomas
Apr 19, 2002 8:38 am
Luis et al, ... Hmm funny thing about that agreement, it's not legally binding when entered into by my minor children or their friends who frequently use any...
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Lucas Gonze
lucas_gonze
Apr 19, 2002 11:09 am
... There is a fairly detailed chapter on Groove security in the O'Reilly P2P book. It was indeed a web of trust much more than a PKI. PKI integration is an...
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mark_friedman_cruxus
mark_friedma...
Apr 19, 2002 12:10 pm
... Magi uses a standards-based native X.509 PKI running over an SSL backbone (with SSL running two-ways between peers). Access control to specific resources...
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Dave Winer
dwiner
Apr 19, 2002 8:08 pm
... Amen to that. I'm sure that Groove hears it every day, if you had a Mac version there would be a lot more adoption. What works for individual products...
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Josh
josh@...
Apr 19, 2002 8:21 pm
Hopefully the extra revenue from covering many platforms will not be completely absorbed by the extra tech support expenses (from covering so many platforms). ...
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Clay Shirky
clay@...
Apr 19, 2002 8:43 pm
Is anyone building a name->address mapping system within Gnutella, so I could give my PC a permanent name no matter how many times my IP address changes? -clay...
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Todd Boyle
toddboyle
Apr 19, 2002 9:09 pm
At 09:36 AM 4/19/02, Dave said ... You mean, "has the intelligence, foresight and wisdom to be on a non-Windows machine..." bwa ha ! :-) I couldnt...
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Justin Chapweske
justin@...
Apr 19, 2002 9:34 pm
... Distributed ad-serving seems like a pretty brain dead concept. I don't see how they expect to keep the latency at reasonable levels. -- Justin Chapweske,...
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Josh
josh@...
Apr 19, 2002 10:57 pm
Is anyone building a name->address mapping system within Gnutella, so I could give my PC a permanent name no matter how many times my IP address changes? ...
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Todd Boyle
toddboyle
Apr 19, 2002 11:12 pm
FROM: Eugene Leitl DATE: 02/18/2002 03:25:03 SUBJECT: [Mojonation-users] Fear and Futility at CodeCon (fwd) ... Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 11:50:07 +0100 (CET) ...
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Logan, Patrick D
patrickdlogan
Apr 20, 2002 12:15 am
... Well, it is not "wrong" for those who live and work in a multiple-platform universe. Presumptuous to assume *everyone* lives in a monoculture. Likewise,...
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Michael Herman
mwherman2000
Apr 20, 2002 1:08 am
Re: software development shops, which continue to be fairly multiplatform Absolutely true from a software product delivery/support perspective but this...
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Michael Herman
mwherman2000
Apr 20, 2002 1:09 am
Jeff, You use "Groove" in multiple contexts. There's "Groove", the decentralized business collaboration platform, and "Groove Networks, Inc.", the company. I...
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Michael Herman
mwherman2000
Apr 20, 2002 1:09 am
"Let's do the time warp again" - see my earlier posting which I haven't seen yet but you have if you're reading this now. Chapter 18 of the O'Reilly P2P book...
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Michael Herman
mwherman2000
Apr 20, 2002 1:09 am
... Todd, I had hoped you would have responded to this by now (maybe Yahoo is still constipated). Groove uses public/private encryption to protect your...
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Michael Herman
mwherman2000
Apr 20, 2002 1:10 am
Re: Is the Decentralized Decentralization Groove Space still running? Groove spaces live on forever unless every member deletes it. The DDD space lives on...
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Michael Herman
mwherman2000
Apr 20, 2002 1:10 am
The new Version 2.0 preview edition has a limit of 3 shared spaces. For those people upgrading from the Version 1.3 preview edition, this is an additional 3...
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Michael Herman
mwherman2000
Apr 20, 2002 1:14 am
Re: I don't see how they expect to keep the latency at reasonable levels. Justin, Latency of what? I'm trying to understand your comment. Michael. ... From:...
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osokin_paragraph_com
osokin_parag...
Apr 20, 2002 1:23 am
... Don't think so. Actually, Gnutella is not the best vehicle for such a service. It is good when you're looking for something that exists in many copies on...
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mark_friedman_cruxus
mark_friedma...
Apr 20, 2002 2:08 am
... I'm still in the dark. PKI is not just about encryption. As I understand it, there are a number of features to a PKI implementation, including mechanisms...
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coderman
__purefiction__
Apr 20, 2002 2:57 am
... UDP based protocols are becoming increasingly popular for bypassing single and dual NAT barriers to peer communication. This is by no means a done deal. ...
