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Whatever happened to P2P and Decentralisation as a design pattern? Wordpress and Movable type became Myspace and Facebook. RSS became Google Reader Distributed...
I've been thinking of it like viscosity. So the issue isn't how decentralized the web-based systems are but how long it takes the overal landscape to change...
I find it interesting that these questions come from the webmaster for the "facebook for sales managers" of ecademy ;) Surely just from your own experience...
... true, "everything that has ever happened is still happening". the apparent decline of peer to peer and decentralization is to be expected. this is a...
coderman
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Thanks very much for your cooperation the other topic is Portfolio what meaning of portfolio and how much kinds of porfolio Lucas Gonze <lucas@...>...
Thanks Julian for reminding me this group still exists. I think Decentralisation was great - in theory - in practice most of the apps were unreliable, and so...
Mitra <mitra.ardron@...> Tue, 24 Apr 2007 19:14:59 ... Shades of grey. There were very very few systems that were ever completely p2p and decentralised....
Oh, I don't know: P2P for communication is doing just fine: look at Skype and the emerging efforts in the IETF to define a P2P version of SIP. There are...
Hi Julian Essentially they all were swallowed up and developed after being "corporatised" / made proprietary. Which raises the old chestnut about the inability...
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... a few thoughts that have been kicking around in the back of my brain for a while: - from an end user perspective, the hosted software is very appealing: ...
Decentralized systems are much harder to design. ("costs more in time and money to get to equivalent features") Decentralized systems are much harder to debug....
... J> ... But putting some of the function out on the edge where it J> took advantage of CPU and bandwidth was a good thing. As was J> letting anyone and...
Gary Lawrence Murphy <garym@...> Wed, 25 Apr 2007 09:27:05 ... I wasn't thinking of servers at home. But that anyone with a bit of hosting can run a...
Hasn't decentralization become corporatized? I'm thinking of the increasing number of "widget" vendors and platforms. Sure - this isn't P2P, but the ability to...
I think that the consensus vision of what decentralization means was a little too literal. People thought that it was always going to be about PC-based...
... That's interesting - is there anything lost if your personal server/agent is hosted outside your physical home (ala Amazon's EC2)? This obviously is a ...
Good point. REST definitely is about decentralized control - multiple organizations interacting without arduous up-front coordination. It's an enabling...
... Decentralized systems are also much, much harder to "monetize", to exploit the crowd of users to the unique advantage of one company, since nearly by ...
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Apr 30, 2007 6:41 am
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... I was thinking about Google, in relation to this thread: they're interesting, because they have three separate topologies at work -- in front of the...
[Referencing emails snipped for brevity & clarity] Greetings: Julian Bond started this thread with a great question: "Whatever happened to P2P and...
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Clay Shirky <clay@...> Mon, 30 Apr 2007 09:25:55 ... Skype is throwing up some issues here. Because the bulk of the system is decentralised it's very...
... Another interesting example is LOCKSS (Lots of Copies Keeps Stuff Safe) - www.lockss.org This is a system used by a number of university libraries to...
Hello, Brian I think, that you gave very correct analyses of what you call "firepower". The availability of bandwidth and relatively low cost of the bandwidth...
Totally agreed Rob. These systems are never labeled as p2p precisely because they work so well. Without SIP and similar/associated protocols, most VoIP...
... I'll side with Adam on this one. Funny how everything is happening at the same time: yesterday we were having a San Francisco P2P get-together, and Travis...
I'm not clear on exactly what search protocols and ideas Jeremie Miller <http://jeremie.com> was working on before he joined Wikia (though he shared some of...
Just to explore a slightly different tangent. Has anyone here thought about decentralised value storeage systems? Traditionally these have always been very...
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