Totally agreed Rob. These systems are never labeled as p2p precisely because they work so well. Without SIP and similar/associated protocols, most VoIP...
... I'll side with Adam on this one. Funny how everything is happening at the same time: yesterday we were having a San Francisco P2P get-together, and Travis...
I'm not clear on exactly what search protocols and ideas Jeremie Miller <http://jeremie.com> was working on before he joined Wikia (though he shared some of...
Just to explore a slightly different tangent. Has anyone here thought about decentralised value storeage systems? Traditionally these have always been very...
... As the resident Behlendorfian, I'll reply that neither Brian nor I are saying it is "unnecessary.' For my part, I'm saying a) that much of the predicted...
Clay Shirky <clay@...> Wed, 2 May 2007 10:30:43 ... As always there are shades of grey here. Drupal and phpBB have done wonders for democratising the...
... Sure, they are powerful and democratizing, but Drupal and phpBB don't use decentralized topologies. In fact, they're pretty good illustrations of what...
... Not sure what exactly do you mean by that, but it sounds suspiciously like what CompuServe executive might have said about the Web in the early nineties -...
... No, I mean it as a historical observation. It is observably the case that there are fewer P2P apps in wide use than we predicted would be in circulation,...
Clay Shirky <clay@...> Wed, 2 May 2007 14:03:15 ... Now there's a statement to conjure with and de-construct. From the implied ageism to the influence...
... Most certainly. However, speaking for myself, five years ago I was fairly certain that a) As soon as the rights holders realize that all their issues with ...
... It's not implied ageism -- its just ageism. (And it's certainly not about VCs.) Young people are a different kind of barometer of the possible than older...
No question you're right, Clay, that people are building far more frequently from the LAMP stack these days than anything else. The decline of p2p doesn't...
... Well, just to present a counterpoint... there are an awful lot of things that have been done successfully in the computer field, promptly forgotten, and...
... This sounds very exciting. Although I would prefer an HTTP based federated system, what's wrong with making a Jabber server that's easy to use and manage? ...
... Sure -- the batch pattern comes and goes, the time-sharing pattern comes and goes, and so on. To quote Donald Barthelme "The future may be different. It...
... I guess I wasn't clear enough - I was pointing out that much of the "new" technology in today's desktop systems - things like pre-emptive multiprocessing...
Now here's the killer app. ... ,___ Johannes Ernst NetMesh Inc.  http://netmesh.info/jernst Now here's the killer app. On May 3, 2007, at 8:58, Clay...
... grid is part of the list i gave (e.g.g the bio sequencing), but uucp/ nntp/email aren't new, so they don't much factor into the change between 2000 and...
... Sure, though we'd need to find a reasonable way to frame and scope things, given that huge impact of starting conditions: - if I build a mashup using APIs...
Very interesting discussion here, and many great comments on p2p. My question would be: Will media-intensive, advertising-driven business models like Joost and...
... Indeed. Web browsers are integrating BitTorrent, although in a superficial way -- they can only use BT for file downloads, not for inline content. There is...
... It makes a lot of sense for Adobe to that, since they're one of the very few with the ability to gain network effects on the client. It leverages their...
... models like Joost and Spotify ... browser-based ... last.fm, etc)? You know, browsers can use non-centralized transports - it's just that nobody has made...
Hello Folks, Andy Oram of O'Reilly Media will be in New York City on Thursday, August 30th. We've been planning an informal meetup with him over dinner, and...
Hello Decentered Ones! We now have 12 people planning to attend this informal gathering in New York thus far. Please pipe up and let us know in the next...
... This reminds me of the client-side contract invalidation incantation (http://www.daysofleisure.com/writing/avoiding_corporate_fraud-like_activity.html): ...
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