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RE: [delhimetro] Re: New accident on Metro

Why DMRC is the target? DMRC is a client and it is in reality the wrong
practices and loose attitude of Engineers from design and build side who
must be held accountable. In India responsibility is not pinned down that is
the problem. Mr. Shreedharan for a gentleman he is, has still taken as this
as his failure to control and resigned. But what about basics? Method
statements for work execution are to be prepared and followed by the
contractor. Any approval as per the contracts does not absolve the
contractor of his responsibilities. Such contractors must be shown the place
they deserve - the jail like in UAE.



When we did the Delhi Metros first underground station we were proud design
and build contractors to have a ISO certification for health and safety with
a good overall record. This was also a feather in DMRC's cap.



In Dubai where we are doing a metro project - in a case like this nobody
blames the client but the contractor is held responsible and punished for
negligence.

There is no difference in degrees or individual capabilities in Delhi or
Dubai - but somehow perfection by the engineers seems to be ruled by their
attention to the work due to consequences they may face.



The further toppling of the cranes on accident site proves the hurry and bad
calculations for a work to be carried thru a proper method statement. Even
the deaths of innocent public was not able to teach a lesson to erring
contractor.



Satyakam Garg

Architect, Dubai



From: delhimetro@yahoogroups.com [mailto:delhimetro@yahoogroups.com] On
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Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 5:15 PM
To: delhimetro@yahoogroups.com
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Ashish

What this timeline shows is an organisation where safety is not really a
serious concern. There are many practices followed here that would be very
questionable - cranes overswinging over heavy traffic, site perimeters being
very tight resulting in heavy machinery being operated through heavy
traffic, etc. When I was in India in December I was struck that there was a
crane backing up without any lights or human guidance right on to a major
road in Noida during the night time, this too just round a corner where it
was barely visible. This is not a sign of an organisation that takes safety
seriously. We've also had previous incidents of maintenance workers being
struck by trains in service.

With all due respect to Mr. Sreedharan (and he very rightly deserves it),
this organisation needs a renewed focus on the basics. My sense is that they
have gotten carried away with all the public adulation and the quality of
the work has suffered as a result.

Perhaps some other group members could comment on this - the preparation for
the Commonwealth Games seems to be behind in many areas. Certainly, on the
bus side they are much further behind compared to where they should have
been.

Shashi

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Hello everyone, I was indeed saddened to hear about the tragedy at the Metro site on Sunday, but I was not entirely surprised. Back in November when there was...
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Ashish What this timeline shows is an organisation where safety is not really a serious concern. There are many practices followed here that would be very...
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Why DMRC is the target? DMRC is a client and it is in reality the wrong practices and loose attitude of Engineers from design and build side who must be held...
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I totally agree with Satyakam Garg, and am glad he has mentioned it. It's the corruption of the engineers and contractors in India, not DMRC! Life in India is...
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Hello Shashi, Apparently there has been another accident on the site. This time three cranes trying to move the girder collapsed. Here are some dramatic...
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Hi All, Notwithstanding clear instructions or method statements to workers on how to address the job at hand properly, has anybody any idea if labor standards ...
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Satyakam (& others) The issue here is one of where the safety responsibility lies. There should be no doubt that the responsibility eventually lies with DMRC....
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The Hindustan today (Delhi, 15 July 9) carried an article on Metro Safety being worse-off in China and how there have been many more accidents in Chinese Metro...
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Interesting. Not sure why we should be comparing ourselves with China, where life is valued even less than it is in India. We could cite many other examples -...
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Right, our benchmarks should be high. In any case comparison is not needed, zero accident should be the lower benchmark. Regards, Akhilesh Singh [Non-text...
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Here is a recent news article about the enquiry report on the Metro accident which according to TOI details "shocking observations" about unauthenticated...
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Today's Hindustan Times carries a full list of news articles on the enquiry committee's report on the Metro accident. Regards, Ashish...
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